IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 12 January 2022 (all times are UTC)
| 01:50 | bcg_ has left IRC (bcg_!~b@dg4ybwyyyyyyyyyyyyyyt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi, Ping timeout: 268 seconds) | |
| 01:51 | bcg_ has joined IRC (bcg_!~b@213-216-205-19.co.dnainternet.fi) | |
| 02:35 | lucascastro has joined IRC (lucascastro!~lucascast@192-140-51-251.static.oncabo.net.br) | |
| 03:54 | vagrantc has left IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:21:21:0:100e, Quit: leaving) | |
| 05:26 | ltspbot` has joined IRC (ltspbot`!~supybot@devs.ts.sch.gr) | |
| 05:30 | zetaE_ has joined IRC (zetaE_!~neon@139.47.114.154) | |
| 05:35 | woernie has left IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, *.net *.split) | |
| 05:38 | ltspbot has joined IRC (ltspbot!~supybot@devs.ts.sch.gr) | |
| 05:39 | ltspbot` has left IRC (ltspbot`!~supybot@devs.ts.sch.gr, Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | |
| 05:39 | bcg_ has left IRC (bcg_!~b@213-216-205-19.co.dnainternet.fi, Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | |
| 05:39 | bcg_ has joined IRC (bcg_!~b@dg4ybwyyyyyyyyyyyyyyt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi) | |
| 05:40 | woernie has joined IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 05:40 | Hyperbyte has joined IRC (Hyperbyte!~jan@middelkoop.cc) | |
| 07:22 | lcurl has left IRC (lcurl!~UserNick@222.254.154.163, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 07:57 | lcurl has joined IRC (lcurl!~UserNick@222.254.154.163) | |
| 08:06 | ricotz has joined IRC (ricotz!~ricotz@ubuntu/member/ricotz) | |
| 08:11 | woernie has left IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | |
| 08:13 | woernie has joined IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 08:51 | woernie has left IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 08:54 | woernie has joined IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 09:06 | woernie has left IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) | |
| 09:18 | woernie has joined IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 09:27 | bcg_ has left IRC (bcg_!~b@dg4ybwyyyyyyyyyyyyyyt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi, Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | |
| 09:27 | bcg_ has joined IRC (bcg_!~b@213-216-205-19.co.dnainternet.fi) | |
| 09:57 | woernie has left IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 09:57 | woernie has joined IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 10:00 | woernie has left IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 10:01 | woernie has joined IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 11:47 | p00l3r has left IRC (p00l3r!~p00l3r@190-82-246-246.adsl.tie.cl, Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | |
| 11:51 | p00l3r has joined IRC (p00l3r!~p00l3r@190-82-246-246.adsl.tie.cl) | |
| 14:03 | danboid has joined IRC (danboid!~dan@cpc127016-macc4-2-0-cust104.1-3.cable.virginm.net) | |
| 14:06 | <danboid> Hi all
| |
| 14:57 | alkisg, I've sent a message to the nslcd mailing list to see if they have any suggestions for fixing my sshfs home dir problem. I'll let you know when I get a reply.
| |
| 14:58 | I've also chased up getting a LDAPS server sorted as we really do need to migrate to LDAPS anyway
| |
| 15:54 | zetaE_ is now known as zetaE | |
| 17:26 | danboid has left IRC (danboid!~dan@cpc127016-macc4-2-0-cust104.1-3.cable.virginm.net, Quit: Leaving) | |
| 18:19 | p00l3r has left IRC (p00l3r!~p00l3r@190-82-246-246.adsl.tie.cl, Quit: Client closed) | |
| 18:28 | ltspbot` has joined IRC (ltspbot`!~supybot@devs.ts.sch.gr) | |
| 18:29 | ogra` has joined IRC (ogra`!~ogra_@2a01:4f8:c0c:2271::1) | |
| 18:30 | adrianorg_ has joined IRC (adrianorg_!~adrianorg@debian/adrianorg) | |
| 18:33 | bcg_ has left IRC (bcg_!~b@213-216-205-19.co.dnainternet.fi, Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | |
| 18:33 | fiesh_ has joined IRC (fiesh_!~fiesh@2003:fb:1018::21) | |
| 18:33 | bcg_ has joined IRC (bcg_!~b@dg4ybwyyyyyyyyyyyyyyt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi) | |
| 18:34 | woernie has left IRC (woernie!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | |
| 18:34 | ltspbot has left IRC (ltspbot!~supybot@devs.ts.sch.gr, *.net *.split) | |
| 18:34 | adrianorg has left IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@debian/adrianorg, *.net *.split) | |
| 18:34 | ogra has left IRC (ogra!~ogra_@ubuntu/member/ogra, *.net *.split) | |
| 18:34 | fiesh has left IRC (fiesh!~fiesh@2003:fb:1018::21, *.net *.split) | |
| 18:34 | Hyperbyte has left IRC (Hyperbyte!~jan@middelkoop.cc, *.net *.split) | |
| 18:34 | lucascastro has left IRC (lucascastro!~lucascast@192-140-51-251.static.oncabo.net.br, *.net *.split) | |
| 18:34 | quinox has left IRC (quinox!~quinox@ghost.qtea.nl, *.net *.split) | |
| 18:34 | bluejaypop has left IRC (bluejaypop!~7f000001@user/josefig, *.net *.split) | |
| 18:34 | lcurl has left IRC (lcurl!~UserNick@222.254.154.163, *.net *.split) | |
| 18:36 | ogra` is now known as ogra | |
| 18:38 | woernie_ has joined IRC (woernie_!~werner@p5b296789.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 18:38 | lcurl has joined IRC (lcurl!~UserNick@222.254.154.163) | |
| 18:38 | Hyperbyte has joined IRC (Hyperbyte!~jan@middelkoop.cc) | |
| 18:38 | lucascastro has joined IRC (lucascastro!~lucascast@192-140-51-251.static.oncabo.net.br) | |
| 18:38 | quinox has joined IRC (quinox!~quinox@ghost.qtea.nl) | |
| 18:38 | bluejaypop has joined IRC (bluejaypop!~7f000001@user/josefig) | |
| 18:42 | lucascastro has left IRC (lucascastro!~lucascast@192-140-51-251.static.oncabo.net.br, Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | |
| 19:25 | vagrantc has joined IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:21:21:0:100e) | |
| 19:26 | p00l3r has joined IRC (p00l3r!~p00l3r@190-82-246-246.adsl.tie.cl) | |
| 19:45 | lucascastro has joined IRC (lucascastro!~lucascast@192-140-51-251.static.oncabo.net.br) | |
| 19:45 | vagrantc has left IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:21:21:0:100e, Quit: leaving) | |
| 20:06 | vagrantc has joined IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:21:21:0:100b) | |
| 20:27 | adrianorg_ is now known as adrianorg | |
| 20:41 | <alkisg> vagrantc: around?
| |
| 20:41 | <vagrantc> alkisg: seem to be! :)
| |
| 20:42 | <alkisg> 👍️ :D
| |
| 20:42 | Regarding this one: https://github.com/epoptes/epoptes/commit/61df1fc94cbabc6384257a8ddf5fb5614740a337
| |
| 20:42 | I think now /etc/default/epoptes-client is missing because of that, and WOL=g is missing, and wake on lan no longer works
| |
| 20:42 | It's not commonly needed so not many people complained :D
| |
| 20:43 | <vagrantc> and the systemd scripts used /etc/default/epoptes-client ?
| |
| 20:43 | <alkisg> Yes
| |
| 20:43 | It's sourced by /usr/sbin/epoptes-client; WOL defaults to empty without it
| |
| 20:43 | I can set WOL=g by default, but shouldn't we ship a config file as an example? What's the current policy?
| |
| 20:44 | <vagrantc> generally i prefer to set defaults and only override them with configuration files, personally
| |
| 20:44 | although technically setting WOL=g now would be a change of behavior, that was an accidental change to drop it?
| |
| 20:45 | <alkisg> Yes, omitting it was the accidental change
| |
| 20:45 | WOL=g was always the default before that
| |
| 20:46 | <vagrantc> i would just make it the default in the code :)
| |
| 20:46 | that would arguably even be a fix worth backporting?
| |
| 20:46 | default but overridable, of course
| |
| 20:46 | <alkisg> OK; do you think we should ship an example file like /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.gz, or a documentation web page under epoptes.org is enough?
| |
| 20:47 | Should it still be under /etc/default, or under /etc/epoptes? /etc/default is a bit Debian-specific, right?
| |
| 20:47 | (the one that we'll source IF it's there...)
| |
| 20:48 | <vagrantc> i'd prefer /etc/epoptes/
| |
| 20:48 | well ... ok ...
| |
| 20:49 | source defaults from /usr/share/epoptes/somefile, get sysadmin overrides from /etc/epoptes/somefile ... ?
| |
| 20:49 | <alkisg> Great. I'll keep sourcing /etc/default for a few years for backward compatibility, but we'll start preferring /etc/epoptes/epoptes-client.conf
| |
| 20:49 | <vagrantc> then you could just copy the /usr/share file into /etc/epoptes to override it
| |
| 20:49 | <alkisg> Well, it's just environment variables; WOL=${WOL:-g}; they can be overriden even from systemd units/overrides
| |
| 20:50 | <vagrantc> yeah ... probably source /etc/default/epoptes if present, overriding with /etc/epoptes/somefile ...
| |
| 20:50 | <alkisg> So there's no "default file to source", it's plain shell
| |
| 20:50 | OK
| |
| 20:50 | <vagrantc> at any rate, i think you're on the right track :)
| |
| 20:50 | <alkisg> 👍️
| |
| 20:51 | * vagrantc goes back to booting obscure arm systems and obsessing over rebuilding a solar battery management system :) | |
| 20:51 | <alkisg> vagrantc: hmm, although I'll have to do the same with /etc/default/epoptes onw
| |
| 20:51 | *now
| |
| 20:51 | That does IS still being shipped... I think... /me checks...
| |
| 20:52 | Heh, no, that got removed too :D
| |
| 20:52 | Oh and I forgot, apart from WOL, it's where people are setting the epoptes server from
| |
| 20:52 | SERVER=name or ip
| |
| 20:53 | We don't set it in LTSP, so I keep forgetting other people do need that part
| |
| 20:54 | <vagrantc> ah
| |
| 20:55 | <alkisg> I think it would be easier to set it back to what it was; and later on when we drop support for LTSP5, we can revisit it
| |
| 20:56 | Now epoptes is still compatible with LTSP5, shipping /usr/share/ltsp/plugins etc; we may clean up all that in the next release after 22.01...
| |
| 20:57 | (or I could strip support for ltsp5 now... and document everything in the epoptes.org installation page, and not ship any conffiles)
| |
| 20:59 | Hmm, some schools still have Ubuntu 18.04 with LTSP5, I shouldn't strip that yet
| |
| 21:00 | <vagrantc> keep hanging on! :)
| |
| 21:00 | <alkisg> vagrantc: any downsides in just reverting that commit, and revisiting it in a couple of years?
| |
| 21:01 | <vagrantc> alkisg: maybe something complains that there's no init scripts ... but i don't imagine anything huge
| |
| 21:01 | alkisg: do two package builds with and without and debdiff and/or diffoscope the output :)
| |
| 21:02 | <alkisg> Will do :)
| |
| 21:03 | Btw debhelper there shows a warning about `Rules-Requires-Root: no` => unknown directive, but it builds fine
| |
| 21:03 | *debhelper 10
| |
| 21:05 | <vagrantc> never seen that, but maybe didn't pay attention :)
| |
| 21:06 | and sticking with debhelper 10 to support old ubuntu LTS releases?
| |
| 21:08 | <alkisg> Yes, I'm still sending launchpad builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (which also works on Jessie) for LTSP and Epoptes
| |
| 21:10 | It looks good, I'll commit it
| |
| 21:17 | ricotz has left IRC (ricotz!~ricotz@ubuntu/member/ricotz, Quit: Leaving) | |