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08:53 | <gvy> j #lxde
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14:09 | <JuJuBee> Is it possible to boot to LTSP over wifi? I have a bunch of small netbooks that would be great for this
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14:59 | <alkisg> JuJuBee: it would be very slow, unless if you use a local HD to store the image to be used with ltsp fat clients
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15:02 | <ogra_> and very insecure
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15:03 | technically you can make it work with wlan to ethernet bridges though ...
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17:54 | <sligett> I have an edubuntu 12.04 LTSP server with something basic broken (missing?). Symptoms include need to add nbdroot=/opt/ltsp/i386 to default.cfg file. Not all apps on server show on client. No client printing. WHere to turn?
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17:57 | <vagrantc> sligett: the nbdroot should be passed via dhcp
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17:57 | sligett: was this an install that worked before, or a fresh install?
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17:59 | <sligett> We've been using this server since 2012. Two amateurs "maintaining" it. Let me look at dhcp server. (Didn't know if that was related to other problems.)
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17:59 | * ogra_ bets someone in your LAN brought a laptop with DHCP server installed :) | |
18:03 | <sligett> Well, the clients all boot fine. The dhcp server dhcpd.conf file says 'option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";' <-- I think that used to work... Let's ignore the dhcp problem, I'm more worried about programs not working on client that used to work. e.g. clients no longer "have" tuxpaint.
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18:05 | (Off Topic - did you see the rapsberrypi.org blog today?)
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18:12 | <vagrantc> sligett: thin or fat clients?
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18:12 | dpkg -S bin/tuxpaint
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18:16 | <sligett> On client: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *bin/tuxpaint*.
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18:16 | on server: tuxpaint: /usr/bin/tuxpaint-import tuxpaint: /usr/bin/tuxpaint tuxpaint-config: /usr/bin/tuxpaint-config
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18:17 | thin clients.
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18:20 | <vagrantc> doesn't sound like a thin client
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18:21 | sligett: my guess is your clients are booting as fat clients.
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18:22 | sligett: well, when you say "on client", you're logging in and running "dpkg -S bin/tuxpaint" from an xterm?
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18:22 | <sligett> Hmmm. Is there an easy way to force them to be thin? (I don't know how/when that would have happened, but I am in the dark here.)
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18:22 | <vagrantc> does "hostname" return the return the name of the server?
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18:23 | <sligett> hostname returns ltsp490
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18:23 | <vagrantc> from a graphical xterm?
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18:24 | <sligett> from a terminal on the client. i.e. Searched for "term" in "dash home" (unity interface)
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18:25 | <vagrantc> if you installed a window manager in the chroot, upgraded ram on the thin clients past a certain threshold, it might trigger autodetection of fat clients
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18:25 | just trying to make sure you're not logging in on the text console
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18:29 | <sligett> Oh, ltsp490 is NOT server name. rebooted (used different account), hostname is ltsp712. I've never head of autodetection of fat clients. I could go look at other, lesser clients to see how they are.
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18:39 | <vagrantc> sligett: look in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/xsessions ... if there are .desktop files there, you'll possibly trigger fat client autodetection if it has enough ram
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18:39 | sligett: set LTSP_FATCLIENT=false if you want to force thin client behavior
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18:39 | sligett: in lts.conf
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18:43 | <sligett> Damn, you nailed it! thank you.
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18:44 | First clue is that password verification takes a lot longer. But tux paint is there, and printing works.
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18:45 | <vagrantc> shouldn't change password verification time at all
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18:48 | <sligett> Password verified in about 1 sec when it was a fat client. Maybe 4 or 5 seconds as thin. Cool. Now I have some more things to play with. Maybe we want some fat clients... thanks again.
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18:49 | <vagrantc> glad it helped
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18:49 | <sligett> Back to off-topic - did you see http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspi-ltsp-is-now-pinet/
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18:52 | <vagrantc> nice
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18:59 | <sligett> Gotta run off to my second job. One day I'll come back to ask how to pay for LTSP development (I stumbled upon a debian lts dev payment site last week) (sligett@wrvschool.org)
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19:03 | <vagrantc> huh
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19:03 | oh, the debian-lts stuff, yeah.
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