IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)


Channel log from 23 March 2015   (all times are UTC)

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08:53
<gvy>
j #lxde
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14:09
<JuJuBee>
Is it possible to boot to LTSP over wifi? I have a bunch of small netbooks that would be great for this
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<alkisg>
JuJuBee: it would be very slow, unless if you use a local HD to store the image to be used with ltsp fat clients
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15:02
<ogra_>
and very insecure
15:03
technically you can make it work with wlan to ethernet bridges though ...
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17:54
<sligett>
I have an edubuntu 12.04 LTSP server with something basic broken (missing?). Symptoms include need to add nbdroot=/opt/ltsp/i386 to default.cfg file. Not all apps on server show on client. No client printing. WHere to turn?
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<vagrantc>
sligett: the nbdroot should be passed via dhcp
17:57
sligett: was this an install that worked before, or a fresh install?
17:59
<sligett>
We've been using this server since 2012. Two amateurs "maintaining" it. Let me look at dhcp server. (Didn't know if that was related to other problems.)
17:59* ogra_ bets someone in your LAN brought a laptop with DHCP server installed :)
18:03
<sligett>
Well, the clients all boot fine. The dhcp server dhcpd.conf file says 'option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";' <-- I think that used to work... Let's ignore the dhcp problem, I'm more worried about programs not working on client that used to work. e.g. clients no longer "have" tuxpaint.
18:05
(Off Topic - did you see the rapsberrypi.org blog today?)
18:12
<vagrantc>
sligett: thin or fat clients?
18:12
dpkg -S bin/tuxpaint
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<sligett>
On client: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *bin/tuxpaint*.
18:16
on server: tuxpaint: /usr/bin/tuxpaint-import tuxpaint: /usr/bin/tuxpaint tuxpaint-config: /usr/bin/tuxpaint-config
18:17
thin clients.
18:20
<vagrantc>
doesn't sound like a thin client
18:21
sligett: my guess is your clients are booting as fat clients.
18:22
sligett: well, when you say "on client", you're logging in and running "dpkg -S bin/tuxpaint" from an xterm?
18:22
<sligett>
Hmmm. Is there an easy way to force them to be thin? (I don't know how/when that would have happened, but I am in the dark here.)
18:22
<vagrantc>
does "hostname" return the return the name of the server?
18:23
<sligett>
hostname returns ltsp490
18:23
<vagrantc>
from a graphical xterm?
18:24
<sligett>
from a terminal on the client. i.e. Searched for "term" in "dash home" (unity interface)
18:25
<vagrantc>
if you installed a window manager in the chroot, upgraded ram on the thin clients past a certain threshold, it might trigger autodetection of fat clients
18:25
just trying to make sure you're not logging in on the text console
18:29
<sligett>
Oh, ltsp490 is NOT server name. rebooted (used different account), hostname is ltsp712. I've never head of autodetection of fat clients. I could go look at other, lesser clients to see how they are.
18:39
<vagrantc>
sligett: look in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/xsessions ... if there are .desktop files there, you'll possibly trigger fat client autodetection if it has enough ram
18:39
sligett: set LTSP_FATCLIENT=false if you want to force thin client behavior
18:39
sligett: in lts.conf
18:43
<sligett>
Damn, you nailed it! thank you.
18:44
First clue is that password verification takes a lot longer. But tux paint is there, and printing works.
18:45
<vagrantc>
shouldn't change password verification time at all
18:48
<sligett>
Password verified in about 1 sec when it was a fat client. Maybe 4 or 5 seconds as thin. Cool. Now I have some more things to play with. Maybe we want some fat clients... thanks again.
18:49
<vagrantc>
glad it helped
18:49
<sligett>
Back to off-topic - did you see http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspi-ltsp-is-now-pinet/
18:52
<vagrantc>
nice
18:59
<sligett>
Gotta run off to my second job. One day I'll come back to ask how to pay for LTSP development (I stumbled upon a debian lts dev payment site last week) (sligett@wrvschool.org)
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<vagrantc>
huh
19:03
oh, the debian-lts stuff, yeah.
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