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Channel log from 22 February 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:55 | <alkisg> !ipappend
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| 05:55 | <ltsp`> alkisg: ipappend: to temporarily solve DHCP problems in the initramfs, try putting IPAPPEND 3 as the last line of /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg. You might also need to specify nbdroot=server-ip:2000 in the kernel command line.
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| 05:56 | <alkisg> !forget ipappend
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| 05:56 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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| 05:58 | <alkisg> !learn ipappend as o temporarily solve DHCP problems in the initramfs, try putting IPAPPEND 3 after the APPEND line in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default. More info: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/SYSLINUX#IPAPPEND_flag_val_.5BPXELINUX_only.5D
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| 05:58 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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| 10:31 | <torbjorn> turns out my new thinclient hw nic's arent supported by the 6.1 kernel, and I read that fedora 15+ is "moving away" from ltsp support, what options do I have?
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| 10:37 | <torbjorn> can I chroot into the client install and try to compile or patch a newer kernel?
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| 11:20 | <knipwim> torbjorn: trying wouldn't hurt
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| 11:21 | if you don't overwrite your existing kernel, you can always move back
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| 12:38 | <torbjorn> how can I limit access to local usb media on a ltsp client?
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| 12:50 | <Hyperbyte> torbjorn, define 'limit'
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| 13:44 | <torbjorn> Hyperbyte: i dont want users to be bale to be able to access local usb storage media
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| 13:45 | I discovered something odd.. Im trying to use an old laptop as thin client, if I have its local hard drive in it, it boots fine, if I take out the hard drive, it only gets to loading initrd...... and then reboots
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| 13:45 | <muppis> torbjorn, do you take it physically out or just disabled it?
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| 13:45 | <torbjorn> physically
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| 13:45 | <knipwim> torbjorn: on the usb access limitation, you could remove the thin client usb block device kernel stuff
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| 13:46 | <torbjorn> thanks
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| 13:46 | <muppis> For me looks like hw issue, as got same behaviour in one dekstop machine.
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| 13:46 | Desktop..
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| 13:46 | <torbjorn> hm pity. would be nice to be bale to run without
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| 13:46 | <knipwim> torbjorn: don't know for sure though
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| 13:47 | <knipwim> the local usb stuff might be handled by ltspfs entirely, i don't know which part the client kernel plays in this
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| 13:56 | <torbjorn> muppis: if i remove the hard drive from the boot order i get the same issue
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| 13:56 | ie physically in the machine, but removed from boot order
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| 13:57 | is there anything in initrd or the kernel that requires some form of local storage?
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| 14:08 | <Hyperbyte> muppis, torbjorn, can't you just disable ... ehm
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| 14:08 | !lts.conf
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| 14:08 | <ltsp`> Hyperbyte: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 14:09 | <Hyperbyte> LOCALDEV
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| 14:09 | And then for booting, remove the USB media from boot order, disable boot with F-key, and set a setup password?
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| 14:36 | <||cw> torbjorn: I have several PXE boot systems with no hdd at all.
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| 14:37 | could be something odd with that laptop. try disabling the IDE/sata controllers in the bios
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| 14:52 | <alkisg> !update-grub
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| 14:52 | <ltsp`> alkisg: Error: "update-grub" is not a valid command.
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| 14:53 | <alkisg> !learn update-grub as one way to work around grub problems in fat chroots, is to execute this command inside your chroot: ln -s /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d /etc/grub.d/00_avoid-update-grub
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| 14:53 | <ltsp`> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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| 15:01 | <muppis> Hyperbyte, my issue actually was failing psu. Didn't stsy stable if there was enough load on it.
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| 15:18 | <alkisg> The ESPEAKER variable is only for the esd daemon, right? Currently we're also setting it when we use pulseaudio...
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| 15:26 | <dobber> so, i updated my fat client, ltsp-update-image, ltsp-update-kernels
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| 15:26 | and now it won't boot up
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| 15:26 | with no errors on the screen :(
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| 15:26 | <alkisg> !quiet-splash
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| 15:26 | <ltsp`> alkisg: quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run `sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default` and remove quiet splash .
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| 15:26 | <alkisg> dobber: ^
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| 15:26 | <dobber> i removed it
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| 15:26 | it just shows a pointer at the bottom left
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| 15:27 | <alkisg> And what's the last message you see?
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| 15:28 | <dobber> no messages at all
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| 15:28 | i have a pxecfg with menus
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| 15:28 | after i select a config it just hangs
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| 15:28 | <alkisg> Remove the menu so that you can see if the kernel is loaded or not
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| 15:28 | <dobber> i'll do it
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| 15:28 | <alkisg> I.e. the dots, "loading vmlinuz......."
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| 15:29 | <||cw> check your syslog too to make sure the server is getting the tftp req for the kernel
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| 15:30 | even with the menu I always see the loading dots
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| 15:32 | <dobber> i crafted a new pxecfg and started tftpd in verbose mode
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| 15:33 | it now says that it's missing a vmlinuz file
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| 15:33 | witch is there
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| 15:35 | ok for now it's not ltsp problem
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| 15:35 | thanks for the tips
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| 15:36 | can i test if nbd is working correct too ?
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| 15:37 | <alkisg> NBD is much later, you need to see a lot of kernel messages scroll by before you reach the nbd mounting stage
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| 15:39 | <dobber> Feb 22 17:39:09 fatserver in.tftpd[3646]: RRQ from 10.1.245.239 filename /ltsp/i386/oneiric/vmlinuz
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| 15:39 | the file is there
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| 15:39 | but it does not load
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| 15:41 | <dobber> could not find kernel image
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| 15:42 | <alkisg> !tftp
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| 15:42 | <ltsp`> alkisg: tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 15:43 | <alkisg> dobber: have a look at that ^
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| 15:57 | <dobber> works now, some files were only permisions 600 after ltsp-update-kernels
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| 15:57 | witch for me was ok, because tftpd-hpa is run with root permissions
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| 15:58 | changing to 644 fixed the problem
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| 15:59 | ltsp-update-kernels just copy the kernels from the /opt/ltsp/ dirs, right ?
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| 16:00 | right
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| 16:01 | <alkisg> If you have a new kernel in an old ubuntu version, then you need a newer ltsp-update-image code
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| 16:01 | (or to just manually update the permissions after each kernel upgrade)
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| 16:02 | <dobber> i'm gonna forget to do it manualy :)
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| 16:02 | maybe i'll just change ltsp-update-kernels to do it for me
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| 16:03 | my server is lucid, my fat client is oneiric
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| 16:03 | thank you again
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| 16:04 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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| 16:05 | <dobber> find $TFTPBOOT/$CHROOT_NAME/ -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
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| 16:22 | <xsl> if i need to remote connect to a client computer i should have vinagre as localapp right?
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| 16:22 | from LTSP server to LTSP client
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| 16:23 | or i just need like edubuntu the Thin Client Manager?
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| 16:24 | <alkisg> The client needs only to activate his vino-server, if you're using gnome
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| 16:24 | (that's the already included vnc server, in remote desktop preferences)
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| 16:24 | If you want a program that automates all that instead, check epoptes:
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| 16:24 | !epoptes
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| 16:24 | <ltsp`> alkisg: epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu and Debian based labs with LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
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| 16:24 | <xsl> i'm using xubuntu
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| 16:25 | <alkisg> epoptes works there too
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| 16:25 | Otherwise just run a vnc server on the client
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| 16:25 | <xsl> epoptes on the chroot?
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| 16:25 | <alkisg> No need to run it locally unless you also want to control the login screen
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| 16:25 | If you install epoptes on the server only, you can control the client after he logs in
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| 16:26 | If you install epoptes-client to the chroot as well, you can control it at login screen too
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| 16:26 | <xsl> t control the login screen i use freenx ( its faster than vnc )
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| 16:26 | <alkisg> So yeah that's the best
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| 16:26 | You can't have local logins with freenx
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| 16:26 | <xsl> not on the clients
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| 16:26 | on the server itself
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| 16:26 | i use freenx to connect to LTSP server remotely
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| 16:27 | <xsl> it uses port 22 and the setup is not that hard
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| 16:27 | <alkisg> Yes, I wasn't talking about that
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| 16:27 | I meant if you want to control the thin client before the users log in
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| 16:27 | <xsl> yes alkisg i understand your point
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| 16:27 | tyvm once again for your support
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| 16:28 | <alkisg> np
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| 16:30 | <xsl> i tought that epoptes was something like edubuntu TCM
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| 16:30 | <alkisg> Yes, it's something like that
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| 16:30 | Like italc, if you've heard that
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| 19:04 | <rwmarch> Unable to authenticate at a particular website, mysafilo.com, from a thin client. Login is normal from a web browser on the console. All applications are on the server, browser not running on LTSP thin client
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| 19:04 | Any hints?
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| 19:26 | <rwmarch> Seems that the chroot environment is doing something to prevent authentication at this partcular website. Returns "wrong password" when using an LTSP thin client. The server is Ubuntu 10.04.
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| 19:27 | Maybe something is missing from the chroot?
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| 19:28 | <alkisg> rwmarch: type your password somewhere where you can see it so that you verify it's not a keyboard layout problem
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| 19:28 | <rwmarch> Roger that. Will do.
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| 19:34 | Typed the characters into a text terminal on the client using the standard Canadian layout on the US English keyboard. I am seeing the expected characters -- in fact, all digits. Tried with and withuot using keypad.
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| 19:35 | withuot = without
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| 19:35 | <alkisg> OK, I've no other ideas why a thin client would do that, as the process really runs on your server
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| 19:36 | <rwmarch> Right.
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| 20:13 | <DIoX|DaZ> Hey, i'm freshly new using ltsp, is it normal to have ~20mbps traffic with one thinclient with 22" monitor and 24bit depth ubuntu 10.04?
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| 20:18 | <elias_a> All the time? No IMHO.
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| 20:18 | Not...
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| 20:25 | <DIoX|DaZ> yes, it's stable traffic :\
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| 20:34 | <DIoX|DaZ> it's quite strange - conf is stock :/
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| 20:37 | <alkisg> You get that traffic when the client has no on-screen movement whatsoever?
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| 20:38 | <alkisg> Or do you mean that's an average traffic when you surf using the client?
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| 20:39 | <DIoX|DaZ> it's approx showing desktop - and watching traffic monitor ^_^
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| 20:40 | what would be normal - logical traffic? ~10mbps?
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| 20:40 | <alkisg> Try with nothing moving on screen
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| 20:40 | You should get almost zero in this case
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| 20:41 | For moving screens, you can get anywhere from 1 kb to 1 gbps
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| 20:41 | E.g. HD video is more than 500mbps
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| 20:41 | <DIoX|DaZ> not doing nothing is ~ 0.8mBps
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| 20:41 | <alkisg> Yes what you're seeing is normal then
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| 20:42 | You can decrease it a bit by setting colordepth=16
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| 20:42 | <DIoX|DaZ> i've tried that - changed gui, and set depth 8bit and got approx 500kBps
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| 20:43 | but i've never used ltsp thought that traffic would be like rdp ^_^
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| 20:43 | <alkisg> No, it has more traffic, but it's also faster
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| 20:43 | E.g. you can see full screen video without lost frames
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| 20:44 | <DIoX|DaZ> yes, i've noticed that it's smooth like it's installed in thinclient... will give more tries tomorrow ^_^
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| 20:44 | thank you 4 info.
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| 20:44 | <alkisg> !ldm-directx
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| 20:44 | <ltsp`> alkisg: Error: "ldm-directx" is not a valid command.
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| 20:44 | <alkisg> !LDM_DIRECTX
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| 20:44 | <ltsp`> alkisg: Error: "LDM_DIRECTX" is not a valid command.
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| 20:44 | <alkisg> Meh
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| 20:44 | !directx
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| 20:44 | <ltsp`> alkisg: directx: If you want to turn off encryption to the workstation, which will speed up performance at the cost of security, you need to specify LDM_DIRECTX=True in your lts.conf file. Type !docs in IRC to get a link to the current documentation
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| 20:59 | <juannn> hi
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| 21:01 | I have an Ubuntu 11.10 LTSP set up and I am able to login with my thin client.
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| 21:02 | Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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| 21:04 | <alkisg> Do you mean "unable"?
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| 21:05 | !sshkeys
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| 21:05 | <ltsp`> alkisg: sshkeys: If you changed your LTSP server IP on Ubuntu, your clients will be unable to login. To fix this, you need to run: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 21:06 | <juannn> tanks ltsp'
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| 21:07 | <dead_inside> you should be thanking alkisg.... without him ltsp would be like ME is for windows
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| 21:07 | <juannn> i am spanish, .... problem with english l ummmmm
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| 21:07 | <dead_inside> type: tanks alkisg
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| 21:08 | <juannn> My problem is as this blogs question....
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| 21:08 | ok alkisg tanks
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| 21:08 | <juannn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1868024
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| 21:08 | when i log with my thin client
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| 21:09 | <juannn> mi desktop only present this menu
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| 21:10 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1870857
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| 21:10 | <dead_inside> from that form post, lykwydchykyn's response is actually good, it should work for u
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| 21:10 | <juannn> this menu File Edit View Go Bookmarks Help'
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| 21:10 | <dead_inside> that menu is from the window you have open, not the window manager
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| 21:11 | are you using Unity?
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| 21:11 | <juannn> yes unity
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| 21:11 | <dead_inside> close the window you have open and that menu will go away
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| 21:12 | <alkisg> !ubuntu-2d
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| 21:12 | <ltsp`> alkisg: ubuntu-2d: To select ubuntu-2d as your default session, put this line in your lts.conf: LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d"
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| 21:12 | <juannn> ok i'll try that, thank alkisg
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| 21:14 | <gothaggis> question: I have a printer shared via CUPS, but it doesn't show up if I go to a thin client and show a list of printers from the Firefox Print option. Is there something I need to do for it to show up for thin clients?
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| 21:16 | maybe lts.conf
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| 21:16 | <alkisg> Does it show if you do it from the server?
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| 21:18 | <gothaggis> yes
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| 21:19 | <alkisg> And firefox is a localapp or not?
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| 21:19 | <gothaggis> yes, its a localapp
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| 21:20 | <||cw> you need to have cpus on the local too
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| 21:20 | cups
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| 21:22 | <gothaggis> it is
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| 21:22 | other printers show up
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| 21:23 | <gothaggis> and if i go to the local cups admin page, the printer is listed there.
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| 21:32 | <dead_inside> gothaggis if you have your cups setup as a print server so that others can print from you can just put that print servers ip in lts.conf as CUPS_SERVER = ip
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| 21:32 | and the clients should pick it up automatically
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| 21:53 | <gothaggis> hmm does it matter that in chroot /etc/cups/ there is no printers.conf?
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| 22:14 | <hfranco> i'm having an issue where my ltsp setup boots but when i try to authenticate it kicks me back out the the login screen
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| 22:14 | as per this doc: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_TroubleShooting#Launching_X_to_give_a_graphical_session
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| 22:14 | is that the same issue?
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| 22:15 | i cannot authenticate because X isn't launching correctly?
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