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07:39 | <gmackerz12> hi is anyone online at the moment??
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07:51 | <Hyperbyte> gmackerz12, sure, hi. :)
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07:51 | <muppis> I... just love impatient people..
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07:52 | Makes me look like I got some patience. :)
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07:52 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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08:21 | <manu_av> I am stuck with automounting usb
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08:21 | on fat client
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08:23 | <alkisg> manu_av: distro/version? It should happen automatically
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08:24 | <manu_av> ubuntu 12.04
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08:25 | in unity the icons appear on the panel, but no windows pop up
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08:25 | <alkisg> Is the disk mounted in /media/<volume-name> ?
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08:25 | <manu_av> I will check
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08:33 | <manu_av> the lab is next building and someone has turned of the client. Will connect in a moment
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08:44 | <manu_av> alkisg: no /media is empty
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08:45 | <alkisg> manu_av: what's the output of "blkid" and "id" ?
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08:47 | <manu_av> blkid:
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08:47 | root@ltsp11:~# blkid
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08:47 | /dev/nbd0: TYPE="squashfs"
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08:47 | /dev/sda1: LABEL="grml-multiboot" TYPE="iso9660"
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08:47 | /dev/sda2: UUID="0EDCD252704FED5B" TYPE="ntfs"
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08:47 | id:
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08:47 | uid=646(manu) gid=1001(teachers) groups=1001(teachers),4(adm),24(cdrom),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),105(fuse),1002(admin)
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08:48 | <alkisg> manu_av: /dev/sda is the stick?
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08:48 | <manu_av> yes
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08:48 | two partitions, it mount fine on the ltsp server
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08:48 | <alkisg> As the user, try: udisks --mount /dev/sda1
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08:49 | <manu_av> Mount failed: Not Authorized
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08:50 | We are using ldap
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08:50 | <alkisg> On the chroot too?
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08:50 | <manu_av> yes, as some shares that we mounted did not resolve the gid correctly
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08:53 | <alkisg> `ps -fC udisks-daemon` shows that udisks is running, right?
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08:53 | If so, I guess it's an ldap issue then, but I don't know anything about ldap so I can't really help with that...
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08:53 | <manu_av> yes
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08:53 | ok, fair enough, will build image without ldap and try again
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08:54 | how does the client get its permissions?
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08:54 | <alkisg> udisks use policykit afaik to check if the user is authorized to mount a disk or not
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08:55 | <manu_av> ok, this gives me some idea on what to try
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08:55 | <alkisg> You can also try doing the same ldap thing in a standalone ubuntu client, and check if it works from there (it shouldn't, fats are no different to standalone machines)
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08:55 | <manu_av> oh the same setup works on non ltsp clients
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08:56 | clients meanign nfs mounted home and single sign on via ldap...
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08:56 | but will check with policykit
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09:03 | <alkisg> Btw what DM are you using in the chroot? LightDM?
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09:03 | <manu_av> yes
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09:05 | <alkisg> So the LDM scripts don't get to execute... but ok that shouldn't matter
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09:06 | <manu_av> which ldm scripts?
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09:06 | <alkisg> LDM is the LTSP login manager, and it has some LTSP-specific login scripts in the chroot /usr/share/ldm/rc.d
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09:11 | <manu_av> why would the ldm scripts not be executed?
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09:12 | <alkisg> Because the LTSP DM, LDM, is the one that calls them, and since you're not using it but you're using LightDM instead, LDM doesn't get to run
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09:15 | <manu_av> oh, then I got that wrong, I though LightDM == ldm....
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09:15 | <alkisg> LDM doesn't support LDAP logins
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09:15 | Only SSH logins
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09:16 | So I'm guessing that your client authentication is a bit messed up....
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09:16 | <manu_av> yes, looks like
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09:16 | What is the best practise to use the ltsp in a wider ldap network?
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09:17 | <alkisg> Join the LTSP server to the network, and don't touch the chroot
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09:17 | <manu_av> what about gid from other shares that I mount, they where not resolved?
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09:18 | <alkisg> Any gids that each user belongs in should be automatically "copied" by the LDM script in the chroot
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09:18 | *groups
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09:18 | <manu_av> ok, this was very helpfull. Will do a fresh build-client and give an update...
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09:19 | Thanks for now from South India :)
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09:19 | <alkisg> You're welcome from Greece :)
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10:07 | <uskerine> hi, which is the best strategy to deploy soft clients in a LTSP servers? I have tried linphone and I realize that each isntance tries to use 5060 UDP port as default, which is not possible.
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10:38 | <manu_av> alkisg: without ldap on the chroot it works like a charm...
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11:36 | <joulez> hi, i have a question not about ltsp, but my hp thin client t5730/5, is it possible to install a regular OS on them? Or do I have to use HPs official flash images?
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11:43 | * alkisg put Damn Small Linux on his T5000, but there's only so much you can do with 64 MB DOM and 128 MB RAM... | |
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11:48 | <joulez> thats cool.
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11:49 | this has 1gig ram 1gig flash dom
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11:55 | i need to get a usb dvd writer anyhow.
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12:14 | <bieb> hello
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12:21 | <bieb> will this work as an lts.conf file?? http://pastebin.com/UV37CfMN
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12:22 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, having problems?
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12:23 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: not that I know of.. I am getting ready to setup a temp server like this while I rebuild my current server
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12:24 | just trying to see if that is correct syntax and all
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12:24 | <Hyperbyte> Did you read the lts.conf manpage?
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12:24 | It explains what syntax is correct and what you can and can't do it the lts.conf file
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12:24 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: yeah.. that's where I came up with the .conf file
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12:24 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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12:24 | Then what's holding you back from trying it?
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12:25 | <bieb> I was wondering if putting the LDM_session on its own like that will make all clients use the gnome-fallback.. or do I need to add that to each Mac address section
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12:31 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, from the manpage:
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12:31 | "The section defined by [default] gets applied to all clients, unless there is a specification for a particular client that overrides it."
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12:31 | !lts.conf | echo bieb
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12:31 | <ltsp> bieb lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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12:33 | <bieb> ok and that was what I was wondering.. but since I don't have the ldm_session under each mac I am good.. but if I needed a different ldm_session on one client I would add it under the mac section and it would override the default.. I just wanted to make sure I was thinking it through the right way
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12:40 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, trust the manpages. :-)
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12:41 | <bieb> not the manpage I was worried about.. it's my early morning reading and thinking.. :D
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12:41 | <Hyperbyte> Well then, trust yourself. ;-)
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12:42 | <bieb> ;)
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12:48 | Hyperbyte: which flavor linux you using for ltsp?
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12:52 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, Ubuntu.
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12:52 | <bieb> 12.04?
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13:17 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, yep.
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13:54 | <bieb> Hyperbyte: cool... how long did it take you to get it tweaked the way you wanted?
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13:58 | <Hyperbyte> bieb, well, I think we were one of the first to take it into production
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13:58 | <bieb> ahh I see
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13:58 | <Hyperbyte> And we have quite a customized environment as well, with custom made Gnome applets, and a very much locked down environment, softphones... all kinds of junk you wouldn't normally find in LTSP environments
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13:59 | So it took quite a while.
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13:59 | But I don't think I'm a good reference in this case. :)
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13:59 | <bieb> lol
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14:00 | I was wondering if you had customized environment or just basic ltsp.. but I can see very customized
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14:03 | * alkisg thinks noone managed to use 12.04 without customizations :P | |
14:04 | <alkisg> ...even without LTSP :D
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14:04 | <bieb> lol
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14:04 | alkisg: I thought you were on vacation
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14:04 | <alkisg> I took a short break, will continue next week :D
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14:05 | <bieb> :D
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14:05 | dont be gone too long.. or you will forget everything.. thats what happened to me on vacation..
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14:05 | I came back and couldnt remember where I was in the process to fix my server
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14:06 | <alkisg> Hehe... no worries my real job is teaching, I can never forget that one...
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14:07 | <bieb> ahh I see
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14:07 | what do you teach?
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14:08 | <alkisg> Computer lessons in high schools
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14:08 | <bieb> thats great
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14:10 | linux? windows? programming?
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14:20 | <alkisg> Personally I'm using a Linux-only environment, as for the subjects, they're many, from simple office use to programming
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14:22 | <bieb> gotcha
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15:24 | <CristianV> hi everybody... i want to know if it's possible to have fixed mountpoints for removable drives connected to clients
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15:26 | <||cw> they show up under /media/disks/{volume label} right?
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15:27 | <CristianV> in the server they show like /media/user/{vol label}
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15:27 | <||cw> so, label them and it'll be "fixed" no matter what client you plug it in
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15:27 | <CristianV> we receibe info from multiple pen drives
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15:27 | <||cw> ok? and you want it the same place no matter the user?
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15:27 | or no matter the drive?
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15:28 | <CristianV> i want them in /media/{USER}/pendrive
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15:28 | <||cw> and when a user plugs 2 in at once?
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15:28 | <CristianV> they will not do that
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15:28 | <||cw> ha! users...
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15:29 | <CristianV> the problem is that I do not own the drives
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15:29 | <||cw> doy ou know if it's a script that does the mounting or a binary?
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15:30 | <CristianV> we receive info in usb drives from a lot of coustomers
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15:30 | <||cw> I've never actually used client drives, I just know it exists
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15:30 | <CristianV> so I can't control the drive label..
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15:31 | mmm i don't really understand the processes between the client and server when mounting a drive
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15:32 | i've tried some udev rules on the client, but I only could get a fixed symlink for the device
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15:32 | not a fixed mountpoint
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15:32 | <||cw> looks like /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter on the server does it
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15:33 | well, at least that's the command called
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15:34 | <CristianV> and does't have rules or something like that
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15:34 | *does it
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15:37 | <||cw> this looks promisiing /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/udev/ltspfs_entry
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15:37 | looks like the client tells the server the dir name
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15:38 | and /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/udev/rules.d/80-ltspfsd.rules as well
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15:39 | <CristianV> i'll check...
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15:48 | yes i think there could be some workaround to make it work
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15:48 | thank you ||cw
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16:33 | <CristianV> ||cw i did it... just adding a little code to ltspfs_entry
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