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| 01:40 | <leveldoc> hi all
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| 01:41 | having some trouble with gdm not displaying any login "widgets", e.g. username / password field isn't showing. Anyone run into a similar situation and was able to solve it?
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| 01:42 | login works, if I just type in a username and password, it logs on.
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| 01:42 | (albeit it doesn't show it on the screen)
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| 01:42 | background gdm image is showing.
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| 01:42 | This is on Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS
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| 08:30 | <Hyperbyte> leveldoc, not sure if you read the logs, but that's an indication there's some wrong with the video driver for your thin client.
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| 08:31 | <Hyperbyte> leveldoc, I had the same on Fedora 13 with an Intel GMA videocard; the kernel didn't support it properly. Perhaps Ubuntu 10.04 has the same problem?
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| 13:17 | <rhce7320> Is anybody listening that might help me debug a broken ltsp (edubuntu 8-->10 upgrade) pxe boot problem?
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| 13:17 | <Hyperbyte> !ask
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| 13:17 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: ask: Don't ask to ask a question! Simply ask the question, and wait for someone to answer you. Most people active in the channel are very busy during the day, but stick around and eventually someone will be around to help you..
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| 13:19 | <rhce7320> Thanks, I'll dump what I have discovered. There is only one tftp file request packet and then a tftp error packet. THe thin client screen says:
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| 13:20 | PXE-T02: Forbidden directory
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| 13:20 | PXE-E3C: TFTP Error - Access Violation
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| 13:21 | <muppis> rhce7320, tftpd cannot access requested files.
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| 13:22 | <rhce7320> u-huh. From wireshark:
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| 13:22 | Option: (t=17,l=14) Root Path = "/opt/ltsp/i386"
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| 13:22 | er, dhcp response field that was...
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| 13:23 | <muppis> That should be where files can be found when requesting from tftpd, not where they actual are.
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| 13:24 | <rhce7320> Boot file name: /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 13:24 | that is what I meant to paste, sorry
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| 13:24 | <muppis> Wht the F* I'm reading.
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| 13:25 | Let's start over. Put your /etc/default/tftpd-hpa and /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to pastebin
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| 13:25 | <rhce7320> OK, give me 5
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| 13:26 | <muppis> I'll pick up Pepsi mean while.
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| 13:31 | <rhce7320> /etc/default/tftpd-hpa and /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf are at http://pastebin.com/DycN29pq
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| 13:32 | <muppis> Ok, let's see.
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| 13:34 | Does /srv/tftp/ltsp/i386/ exists?
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| 13:35 | <rhce7320> -rw-r--r-- 1 tftp root 14146 2008-09-25 07:43 pxelinux.0 is one of the files there..
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| 13:36 | chowning the tree to tftp user was one of my attempts to fix
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| 13:38 | gregc@server-1:~$ ll -d /srv/tftp/ltsp/i386/
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| 13:38 | drwxr-xr-x 3 tftp root 4096 2008-09-25 07:43 /srv/tftp/ltsp/i386/
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| 13:39 | <Hyperbyte> What's the IP of your tftp server?
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| 13:40 | Wait
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| 13:40 | That's a dumb question
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| 13:40 | Forget I asked.
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| 13:40 | I was thinking something, but your config file proves me wrong, so do your error messages.
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| 13:40 | <rhce7320> Don't worry, I usually ask the dumb ones. In fact' I know that's how i'll feel when this is nailed :)
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| 13:41 | <Hyperbyte> Did you try manually tftp'ing the file? Preferably on the server, to localhost?
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| 13:42 | <rhce7320> No, I haven't seen a tftp client ouside a NIC.
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| 13:42 | <Hyperbyte> Type 'tftp' on a prompt
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| 13:42 | Ubuntu should have some package for it
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| 13:43 | apt-get install tftp
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| 13:43 | Heh
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| 13:43 | <rhce7320> not fould. Do I need to install package tftp???
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| 13:43 | er, found
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| 13:43 | I see, I type too slow..
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| 13:44 | <Hyperbyte> Then you can type 'tftp localhost' and try to get the file that way... 'get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0'
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| 13:45 | <muppis> Hmm.. Thunderstrom is rising and taking my machines out of power.
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| 13:45 | <rhce7320> OK, installed. Is the cmd like "get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0" /
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| 13:46 | I liik up from typing & you answer my Q before I ask. Thats service!
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| 13:47 | <rhce7320> get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 gives the same error. "Error code 2: Forbidden directory"
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| 13:50 | <Hyperbyte> Okay, so your problem has nothing to do with DHCP, network, or anything else.
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| 13:50 | It's your TFTPD config or permissions that's wrong somehow.
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| 13:50 | Is there something in the tftpd log?
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| 13:50 | Oh, there isn't a ftpd log. :\
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| 13:50 | TFTP messages are in /var/log/syslog
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| 13:51 | Or so it seems.
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| 13:51 | See if there's anything useful there.
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| 13:52 | <rhce7320> Jul 2 15:47:08 server-1 in.tftpd[7946]: RRQ from 127.0.0.1 filename /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 13:52 | Jul 2 15:47:08 server-1 in.tftpd[7946]: sending NAK (2, Forbidden directory) to 127.0.0.1
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| 13:52 | ... thats from syslog
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| 13:52 | <rhce7320> & I'm GMT+2
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| 13:53 | <Hyperbyte> Me too.
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| 13:54 | Is the tftpd process really running as tftpd user?
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| 13:55 | Or 'tftp' user actually, as you have specified in config file
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| 13:55 | <rhce7320> I have spent most of the last ~5 yrs on freebsd, but I remeber selinux giving me grief when it was a new thing. If path & perms seem right, might it be a selinux bite?
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| 13:55 | Ill check what ps says
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| 13:56 | 1157 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --listen --user tftp --address 0.0.0.0:69 -p -v -v -v /srv/tftp
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| 13:59 | my /srv/tftp is a symlink viz:
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| 13:59 | gregc@server-1:~$ ll /srv/tftp
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| 13:59 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2008-10-07 13:16 /srv/tftp -> /var/lib/tftpboot/
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| 13:59 | <Hyperbyte> Okay
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| 13:59 | <Hyperbyte> Stop the symlink, make tftpd use /var/lib/tftpboot directly
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| 13:59 | I bet that's your problem.
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| 14:01 | <Hyperbyte> Either that, or move the entire /var/lib/tftpboot to /srv/tftp, but that'll be problematic during upgrades probably.
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| 14:01 | You could also make a mount --bind link, but I'd recommend just using /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 14:02 | <rhce7320> OK, I'll make the change & see. It was a working system (pxe/ltsp on eth1 & pxe/fai on eth2) before the upgrade, so I let myself blame config files.
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| 14:02 | <alkisg> !tftp
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| 14:02 | <ltsp> alkisg: tftp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP.
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| 14:02 | <alkisg> There are known problems with upgrades to 10.04, see above
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| 14:05 | <rhce7320> ...trying /var/lib/tftpboot... Will report shortly.
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| 14:13 | <Hyperbyte> ... oh the suspense is killing me
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| 14:16 | <rhce7320> still the same error with /var/lib/tftpboot in .../.defaults/..., but I'll trawl my way thru the troubleshooting tftp doc & see what I find"
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| 14:17 | FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 14:18 | <Hyperbyte> !!!!!!!!!!111111
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| 14:18 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: Error: "!!!!!!!!!111111" is not a valid command.
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| 14:18 | <Hyperbyte> lol
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| 14:18 | What was it?
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| 14:18 | <rhce7320> TFTP_OPTIONS="--secure"
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| 14:18 | * alkisg has seen that a dozen times here before deciding it'd be faster to write a wiki page about it :P | |
| 14:19 | <Hyperbyte> Haha
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| 14:19 | <rhce7320> Well It got to load the kernel anyway & then the VirtualPC VM blew up! M$ crap!
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| 14:20 | I'll connect a phys client now & check that I cet a working thin client.
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| 14:29 | <rhce7320> Hmmm,... don't party yet, client boot loads kernel & initrd. I guess the kernel starts & then hangs, because the "load progress" graphic animation hangs. THe last packet on the wire is the last block (3132) if initrd.
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| 14:30 | IANA expert, but should I rebuild client?
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| 14:32 | alkisg: You're right about a broken 10.04, ltsp-manager is broken. It freezes without painting the window rectangle.
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| 14:47 | <alkisg> rhce7320: I didn't say that 10.04 is broken in general
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| 14:48 | LTSP manager has been unmaintained for years now
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| 14:48 | rhce7320: about the client hanging, press [Esc] when you see the ubuntu splash screen
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| 14:48 | Maybe you're missing a module, or you have 2 dhcp servers on your network.
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| 15:01 | <rhce7320> OK, I eventually got back to a text screen with ALT/F1 in a split-second window of opportunity. The kernel says:
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| 15:02 | Loading, please wait...
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| 15:02 | ipconfig: eth0: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device
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| 15:02 | /init: .: 1: Can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf
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| 15:02 | [ 31.10426] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
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| 15:02 | I'm using a ether x-over cable to my laptop intil I nail this. No other network devices around.
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| 15:07 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm... perhaps no kernel module for your network card? Or some problem with writing to the /tmp/ partition?
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| 15:12 | <alkisg> !adding-modules | echo rhce7320:
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| 15:12 | <ltsp> rhce7320: adding-modules: If your clients won't boot with messages like 'eth0: link not ready', maybe you're missing an initramfs-module: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AddingModules.
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| 15:15 | <Hyperbyte> One day I hope to be as good at this as alkisg. :)
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| 15:23 | <rhce7320> Back now, I just went to brew a Rooibos to rehydrate some nerons. I'm a Tasmanian working in Zambia & we don't see that tea back home...
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| 15:24 | <muppis> rhce7320, and here in Finland we have Rooibos tea in every store I can imagine.
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| 15:26 | <rhce7320> alkisg: My laptop is a recent HP. This will be booting a classroom of ancient Compaqs - possibly presarios. PIII/128MB. I'm not at the school now, but I can pull out an older desktop to see if it is different
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| 15:27 | <alkisg> rhce7320: just boot your client with any linux distro and run lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 Ethernet. This will show you which module you need.
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| 15:27 | If you want a virtual client, Virtualbox gave me trouble
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| 15:27 | <muppis> rhce7320, I think you're not having enough ram in clients.
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| 15:28 | <rhce7320> muppis: I'm just a cafe-holic trying to diversify my anti-oxidants.
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| 15:28 | <alkisg> rhce7320: for 128 RAM you'd want to disable nbd-proxy and compcache, and put 512 MB NBD Swap.
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| 15:28 | <muppis> Qemu/kvm based virtuals works fine.
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| 15:28 | rhce7320, me too.
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| 15:28 | <alkisg> But leave those 3 after the initial setup... :)
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| 15:30 | <rhce7320> muppis: They (Compaqs) ran ok on 8.04
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| 15:32 | <alkisg> (06:27:43 μμ) alkisg: If you want a virtual client, Virtualbox gave me trouble => I meant to put a NEVER there :(
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| 15:32 | Vbox never gave me trouble
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| 15:33 | <muppis> And actually, kvm only problem was to manage pxe booting to work as roms is not installed by default.
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| 15:35 | And if using libvirt for management, internal DHCPd can cause problems, but can be disabled by editing corresponding xml.
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| 15:36 | <rhce7320> alkisg: Yeah, I thought you meant that :0
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| 15:37 | I just got a login prompt on a Compaq Deskpro.
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| 15:37 | YEA!!!
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| 15:40 | The client is circa mid-2008. If i renamed the client tree & ltsp-build-client might i get later eth modules? I assume build-client uses on-line repositories.
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| 15:40 | <alkisg> You mean the chroot? Yeah it's suggested to build a clean chroot on upgrades
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| 15:42 | <rhce7320> I'll get that started & it might be over by the time I eat. This is a 256/64kb/s wi-max svc. Might be a while.
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| 15:43 | <alkisg> Use --mount-package-cache
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| 15:43 | That will save you some bandwidth, and a lot more in case you need to redo it
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| 15:47 | <rhce7320> do you mean ltsp-build-client --mount-package-cache ?
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| 15:49 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 15:50 | !learn nocompcache as compcache is a module that compresses 25% of the client RAM and uses it as swap space. In LTSP we have NBD_SWAP though, so it's better to disable compcache by putting "nocompcache" as a kernel parameter in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 15:50 | <ltsp> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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| 15:50 | <alkisg> !nocompcache | tell rhce7320
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| 15:51 | <muppis> Almost works.
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| 15:52 | <alkisg> What, the "tell" command? It does, it sends a PM | tell muppis
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| 15:53 | <muppis> Ah. Didn't know.
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| 15:53 | <rhce7320> me neither, but I see a new ltsp window appear
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| 20:55 | <aPaChe_LiSp> hi
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| 22:03 | <Hyperbyte> Hi aPaChe_LiSp
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| 22:18 | <aPaChe_LiSp> Hyperbyte I can help with a problem with ltsp server
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| 23:47 | <Hyperbyte> aPaChe_LiSp, that's good. :-)
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