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| 10:09 | <muppis> Wish me luck. I just bought Raspberry Pi and decided make it my LTSP client at home. Just got tired having too many powerful machines just about for nothing.
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| 10:12 | <Hyperbyte> Good luck!
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| 10:12 | You should write up a nice howto on the LTSP wiki once you have it working. :)
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| 10:12 | <muppis> Thanks for reminding. I should write it for my work as well.
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| 10:20 | <Q-FUNK> howdy! I'm on Debian and I keep on getting this message from NFS:
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| 10:20 | Aug 28 13:14:51 voito rpc.mountd[5335]: refused mount request from 10.10.10.2 for /opt/ltsp/i386 (/opt/ltsp/i386): unmatched host
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| 10:23 | <muppis> What are lines in /etc/exports ?
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| 10:37 | <Q-FUNK> /opt/ltsp 10.10.10.*(ro,no_root_squash,async,no_subtree_check)
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| 10:38 | <Q-FUNK> muppis: does that make sense?
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| 10:40 | <Hyperbyte> Q-FUNK, you want 10.10.10.0/24
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| 10:41 | Instead of 10.10.10.*
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| 10:43 | Using wildcards in IP addresses is not valid and generally not accepted.
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| 10:46 | <Q-FUNK> Hyperbyte: it's the old notation, but ok. trying with the new one. :)
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| 13:44 | <Q-FUNK> howdy! is sound to clients supposed to work out of the box nowadays?
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| 13:47 | <ogra_> since 4 years :)
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| 13:48 | (or even five)
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| 13:52 | <Q-FUNK> doesn't here.
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| 13:53 | as soon as I touch the gnome-volume-applet, it crashes. regardless sound doesn't work on the remote,
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| 14:22 | <vagrantc> q-funk: sound has had some bugs with recent versions...
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| 14:22 | of course, a bit too late...
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| 14:27 | <muppis> First drawback. I don't have USB keyboard. :)
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| 14:42 | <Hyperbyte> muppis, attach a touchscreen and use an on-screen keyboard.
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| 14:43 | <muppis> Hyperbyte, I don't have that either..
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| 14:48 | <Zaphoid> Is it possible to have an LTSP going on a different OS then it is offering? For example, clients useing Ubuntu, but the host is a CentOS system.
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| 14:50 | <||cw> Zaphoid: it's possible, but can be a pain
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| 14:56 | <Zaphoid> ||cw: I guess my question there would be "how much of a pain". I'm hoping to setup a 60 station LTSP install in a couple of months, and prefer to use my existing CentOS infrastructure, but with the more user friendly/updated Linux Mint clients.
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| 14:56 | <Zaphoid> I COULD use a Ubuntu/Mint LTSP host, but that would require additional steps.
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| 14:58 | <vagrantc> why linux mint on the clients? you'd have to write that yourself?
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| 14:58 | though it shouldn't be too hard
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| 14:59 | <Zaphoid> Mint as opposed to CentOS6?
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| 14:59 | Or Mint as opposed to Ubuntu?
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| 14:59 | <vagrantc> mint, as opposed to an OS that supports LTSP...
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| 14:59 | such as ubuntu
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| 14:59 | <Zaphoid> Mint 13 Ubuntu does work out of the box, just not with the right Windows Manager and UI (working on that right now)
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| 15:00 | But Mint 13 also because it tends to be more user friendly, that is to say "Windows user friendly" then the standard Ubuntu install
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| 15:02 | But, honestly, I'm more of a RedHat guy myself, so the whole Debian/Ubuntu land is a bit new to me and the small differences are taking time to get used to. I could be making assumptions I shouldn't be.
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| 15:03 | <vagrantc> well, if you're using CentOS as your server, te user will be exposed to the CentOS desktop anyways...
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| 15:04 | unless you're doing fat clients
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| 15:05 | mint 13 LTSP works out of the box?
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| 15:05 | <Zaphoid> I am, at this time, fat clients
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| 15:05 | Well
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| 15:05 | I guess not RIGHT out of the box, had to make a couple links and use --dist=precise
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| 15:06 | But all the Ubuntu LTSP stuff is in there.
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| 15:06 | <vagrantc> i've heard a lot of people having difficulty setting it up, and there's not one line of code committed upstream to LTSP for Mint
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| 15:06 | <Zaphoid> So the desktop I'm exposing at this time, through the fat clients, looks like Ubuntu
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| 15:06 | <vagrantc> right
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| 15:06 | <Zaphoid> Which I'm working at solving right now.
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| 15:06 | <vagrantc> becuase it essentially is ubuntu...
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| 15:06 | <Zaphoid> Yes
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| 15:07 | <vagrantc> bennabiy has been working on Mint support a bit that could go upstream to avoid the ugly workarounds
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| 15:08 | <Zaphoid> Interesting. That could help me out quite a bit. How far along is it, and what version of Mint is it for?
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| 15:08 | I'm hoping to stick to the longterm stable release.
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| 15:08 | <vagrantc> dunno how that's coming, but it shouldn't be oo hard since it's only a little divergent from ubuntu
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| 15:09 | at least as fa as ltsp is concerned
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| 15:09 | <Zaphoid> Yeah. All the basic OS stuff is the same.
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| 15:09 | <vagrantc> anyways, gotta head out. good luck!
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| 15:09 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 15:09 | <Zaphoid> Thanks a lot.
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| 15:09 | Have a good one
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| 20:56 | <Zaphoid> Trying to get auto-login working through editing the lts.conf under the tftpboot side of things, and it seems to be having no effect at all.
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| 21:08 | <tfdl> I followed instruction on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall#Comments_and_hints and section "Installing on top of an already running desktop system" to install LTSP but when PXE boot I do not get a response from the server, can you please help?
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| 21:09 | or can you please give me pointer to where i can find more info to move on ...
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| 21:14 | <alkisg> Zaphoid: give more details, distro, version, location and contents of lts.conf
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| 21:15 | tfdl: check your dhcpd and tftpd configuration... for example,
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| 21:15 | !tftp
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| 21:15 | <ltsp> tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 21:15 | <tfdl> thanks alkisg
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| 21:24 | distro: ubuntu 12.04.3, location: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 21:25 | content of lts.conf
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| 21:25 | dung@dung-ubuntu:/opt/ltsp/i386/etc$ more lts.conf # This is the default lts.conf file for ltsp 5. # For more information about valid options please see: # /usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz # in the client environment. # # Note that things like sound and local device support are # auto-enabled if the corresponding packages are installed, # there is no need to manually set these options anymore. # # **** THIS FIL
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| 21:26 | # **** THIS FILE SHOULD NO LONGER BE USED FROM HERE !!! **** # # With the introduction of the nbd/unionfs/squashfs structure # the lts.conf file moved to the tftp root please create: # /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf instead for your changes # # In case you want to use the lts.conf here, this still works, # but you need to run ltsp-update-image after every change. [example] key=value
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| 21:27 | we are the university of Calgary and our dhcp server is existing and not on the same LTSP server
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| 21:28 | i am looking at the help link you gave, thanks!
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| 21:42 | <tfdl> hi PhoenixSTF, do you know if there is an gui that i can use for LTSP server?
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| 21:43 | <PhoenixSTF> no but there is a webui
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| 21:43 | <tfdl> i used openthinclient before and PXE register the thinclients to the server, with the gui i can see things better.
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| 21:44 | <PhoenixSTF> ltsp-cluster has a web interface for configuration and management
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| 21:44 | that I know of
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| 21:44 | <tfdl> very helpful info.
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| 21:46 | i will dig, but by any chance you know why my LTSP clients fail PXE booting?
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| 21:46 | i gave alkisg info above.
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| 21:46 | I confirm the LTSP server is running
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| 21:47 | i confirm the tftpd-hpa is running
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| 21:47 | <PhoenixSTF> you can have many problems, dhcp next server not configured
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| 21:47 | you do need to tell dhcp server who has the PXE boot
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| 21:48 | <tfdl> very good suggestion, but i am using dhcp server from our university of Calgary
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| 21:48 | this is existing server, and we are from a library
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| 21:49 | this server support PXE boot in openthinclient
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| 21:49 | <alkisg> !proxydhcp
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| 21:49 | <ltsp> proxydhcp: A proxy DHCP server is defined by the PXE specification as a server which sends auxiliary boot information to clients, like the boot filename, tftp server or rootpath, but leaves the task of IP leasing to the normal DHCP server. More info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 21:49 | <tfdl> openthinclient also uses Ubuntu for its client OS
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| 21:50 | <PhoenixSTF> kernel architecture???
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| 21:52 | <tfdl> distro: ubuntu 12.04.3
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| 21:53 | 32bit
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| 21:53 | i confirm tftp files are there
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| 21:54 | <PhoenixSTF> sorry m8 dont know...
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| 21:55 | <tfdl> thanks though!
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