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Channel log from 8 July 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:44 | <dobber> after yesterdays lucid update
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| 03:44 | i can't start chromium and opera no more :(
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| 04:15 | <dobber> i'm having trouble running specific local apps.
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| 04:15 | how do i debug them
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| 06:04 | <dobber> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc
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| 06:17 | anyone can help me debug why chromium wont start as a localapp after yesterdays update /
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| 06:17 | ?
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| 06:19 | <Appiah> just segfaults at startup?
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| 06:20 | <dobber> i dont know
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| 06:20 | ltsp-localapps chromium-browser
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| 06:20 | no errors no nothing
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| 06:21 | i've straced a lot but have found nothing so far :(
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| 06:24 | /usr/bin/xprop -root -f LTSP_COMMAND 8s -set LTSP_COMMAND "strace -s 1024 -o /tmp/debug -f /usr/bin/chromium-browser"
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| 06:24 | ahaa
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| 06:24 | i'm back in the game ;)
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| 06:24 | <Appiah> huh? :)
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| 06:36 | <dobber> i found a way to debug a local application :)
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| 06:56 | <giaco> hello
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| 07:00 | <Appiah> :)
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| 07:00 | <giaco> I've a question: a wireles thin client, is it possible? any valid solution?
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| 07:04 | <Appiah> there are thin clients with wireless
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| 07:05 | if there are thin clients with wireless that can pxeboot I have no idea
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| 07:09 | <giaco> :-/
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| 07:10 | <Appiah> if you can turn them into fatclients perhaps?
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| 07:10 | (beacuse they dont pxeboot right?)
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| 07:10 | or am I confusing terms here
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| 07:12 | <sep> Appiah, you will either need a external wifi to ethernet adapter that can connect to the wifi on the machines's behalf before it boots. or you must have a tiny tiny os on the machine that can detect the hardware and connect to the wifi, before coninusing the boot there. (or more likely just a thinclient distro like thinstation)
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| 07:13 | <giaco> sep, I want the second solution
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| 07:13 | but I'd like to start from something that's supposed to work out-of-the-box
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| 07:13 | You're talking about thinclient distro, I'm relly interested
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| 07:13 | <sep> http://www.thinstation.org/ works out of the box boot it from flash iso cd or whatever
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| 07:14 | <Appiah> tiny os that detects the wifi ... wouldnt that be a fatclient setup?
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| 07:14 | <sep> a fat thinclient :)
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| 07:14 | not a fat workstation
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| 07:14 | but basicaly yes
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| 07:15 | <Appiah> :)
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| 07:15 | <giaco> sorry I didn't know those terms :) now I do
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| 07:15 | <sep> not sure if they are "authorative" i just thought they was descriptive :)
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| 07:15 | <giaco> ok but what I need is pxe booting from this thinstation, do you think it's possible
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| 07:16 | <Appiah> I remeber seeing something about putting the ldm on the flash
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| 07:16 | <sep> you can not pxeboot on wireless without some sort of code on the box.
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| 07:16 | <Appiah> on the mailinglist
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| 07:16 | <sep> not ltsp and not thinstation
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| 07:16 | if you boot thinstation on the box. you dont need to pxeboot it anymore
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| 07:16 | (or any other local code)
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| 07:17 | <giaco> sep, I'd like to boot thinstation using CDROM, and than boot an edubuntu client from there .. do you thing it's possible?
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| 07:18 | <Appiah> livecd with ldm?
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| 07:18 | (would be the same as a live on the small disk/flash memory on a thin client)
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| 07:19 | <sep> giaco, you can just connect to the edubuntu desktop directly with thinstation
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| 07:19 | <giaco> probably I'm just missing how ldm works, it's my first days on ltsp :P
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| 07:20 | <Appiah> ldm is the login manager for ltsp
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| 07:20 | <sep> Appiah, now that sounds so usefull someone must have done it :)
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| 07:20 | <Appiah> "ldm(1) starts an X server and presents the user with a login screen, similar to the gdm(1) login prompt."
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| 07:20 | <giaco> but I think I should pass the ltsp server IP address somewhere in thinstation
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| 07:20 | <sep> giaco, you must configure it yes
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| 07:21 | <giaco> I'm going to burn it on cd .. let's see
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| 07:22 | <sep> probably if you want ltsp spesifics that require ldm. like localapps or local devices you might want to use a livecd /small distro that have ldm available instead of thinstation
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| 07:22 | but for just the edubuntu desktop thinstation will work
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| 07:23 | <dobber> i fixed my chromium problem finaly
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| 07:25 | <_UsUrPeR_> what was the chromium problem?
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| 07:26 | <Appiah> dobber: welcome back
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| 07:26 | <dobber> yesterdays ubuntu update broke it
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| 07:26 | <_UsUrPeR_> ahh
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| 07:26 | <dobber> nothing to do with ltsp
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| 07:29 | <giaco> what kind of conf should I modify for ldm on thinstation? What I mean is, where's ldm conf file?
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| 07:29 | I just want to get comfortable with lstp stuff manual configuration, as edubuntu worked out of the box without customization
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| 07:30 | <Appiah> the ltsp configurations are in lts.conf , but that file gets read before starting ldm I think
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| 07:31 | <giaco> ty
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| 07:32 | does ltsp-localapps come from edubuntu or is it just a boxed ltsp5 tool?
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| 07:32 | <Appiah> ltsp5
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| 07:32 | <giaco> ok
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| 07:33 | and which is the common way to install and run localapps on the clients?
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| 07:34 | so far I've chrooted into the thin client image folder /opt/.. and I've done "apt-get install firefox", than I've recreated the client compressed image, and I've rebooted the clients
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| 07:34 | <Appiah> to install localapp you first chroot in , and do a apt-get install
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| 07:34 | <giaco> I see that now ltsp-localapps firefox launches firefox, but for example flash stuff is extremely slow
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| 07:34 | <Appiah> then you have localapp configuration in lts.conf and it should have a shortcut/menu (could be wrong here)
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| 07:37 | <giaco> I don't see any menu .. btw I'm getting confused, please take a look at this lts.conf file example http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/dapper/client/getltscfg/lts.conf
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| 07:37 | and and this parameters file http://pkg-ltsp.alioth.debian.org/bzr/people-stratus/client/lts-parameters.txt
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| 07:38 | as you can see in one you have a LOCAL_APPS parameter
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| 07:38 | but not on the other
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| 07:43 | <dobber> giaco, what are you trying to do ?
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| 07:47 | <giaco> dobber, nevermind, I've just solved. I was trying to boot firefox locally to show smooth flash, but my ltsp-localapps was launching the remote one
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| 07:47 | now it's wokring
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| 07:48 | now I've to solve two more problems: 1) a client with nforce2 ethernet card not booting, 2) a way to boot a wireless client
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| 07:54 | <ogra> giaco, the file in the first link is 4 years old
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| 07:54 | !docs
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| 07:55 | <ltspbot`> ogra: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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| 07:55 | <ogra> giaco, ^^^
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| 08:03 | <giaco> ogra, ty :)
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| 08:24 | <giaco> ltsp problem here: a client boots the kernel, than "nbd0: unknown partition table"
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| 08:41 | <markit> hi, I had a debian based ltsp-rdeskop installation that worked fine except was unable to boot new hardware (thin clients with new lan nics). I've installed from scratch a ubuntu 10.04 based solution, but rdesktop works fine except Caps Lock that does not work (Win 2003)
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| 08:41 | I've googled around and seems to be an old problem, but I've not found a solution so far
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| 08:41 | any idea?
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| 08:43 | rdesktop/keymaps/common has an Caps_Lock 0×0 inhibit that I changed to "Caps_Lock 0x3a capslock”
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| 08:43 | in cherrot, but seems not to do any difference (I've only rebooted the thin client.. is it enough?)
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| 08:50 | i.e. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rdesktop/+bug/494311
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| 08:50 | there are bugs of 2008 and 2009
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| 09:02 | <frederickjh> I have a Ubuntu Lucid LTSP setup and I am trying to figure out how to set up a user (that logs into a client) as a teacher. Italc is working on the sever as teacher. Anyone know where I can find help on this? I have hunted all over the italc site and google like crazy.
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| 09:11 | <markit> mmm seems work, just probably had to rebuild the NBD image
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| 09:12 | wondering why such a bug is so long time standing
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| 09:12 | frederickjh: I don't sorry, even if I'm interested in the answer also
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| 09:13 | (I've setup a ltsp solution for a school, but not yet installed italc)
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| 09:13 | frederickjh: what do you mean "as a teacher"? and what prevents the teacher (real person) to login with teacher username and password?
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| 09:16 | <frederickjh> I have a Ubuntu Lucid LTSP system. It comes with iTALC installed. Logged in as the first user created (admin) on the server I can access the iTALC master interface as it was installed.
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| 09:17 | I am trying now with another admin user on a client to see what happens.
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| 09:17 | But I don't want all my teachers as admins.
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| 09:18 | I get a message there seems to be no iTALC services running on this computer.
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