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Channel log from 17 December 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:34 | <ame> Can anybody tell me that a board name arduino is detected in my server and it is not detecting by the clients
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| 08:36 | <alkisg> Are you using fat clients?
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| 08:36 | <ame> yes
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| 08:36 | i connected the board using USB
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| 08:37 | <alkisg> Run `udevadm monitor` in a fat client, then connect arduino, then put the output to pastebin
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| 08:40 | <ame> Is it possible to install Libre office to run locally??
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| 08:41 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 08:42 | <ame> After i installed mozilla in chroot and make it to run locally.my server shortcut of mozilla is not working
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| 08:44 | <alkisg> If you are using fat clients you don't have a server shortcut for mozilla
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| 08:45 | Maybe you mean localapps instead of fat clients
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| 08:45 | <ame> nothing is coming after i run udevadm monitor in clients computer.Its showing UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing KERNEL - the kernel uevent
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| 08:45 | yes local apps
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| 08:45 | <alkisg> Did you connect the arduino board after running udevadm?
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| 08:46 | Stop using localapps then, they are too difficult for you to manage them, and switch to fat clients:
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| 08:46 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 08:46 | <ltsp`> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 08:46 | <alkisg> !fatclients
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| 08:46 | <ltsp`> fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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| 08:47 | <ame> yes i connected the board
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| 08:48 | <alkisg> ame: you have thin clients, not fat clients
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| 08:49 | You need to run `ltsp-localapps xterm` first, and then run udevadm inside that xterm
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| 08:49 | Thin clients with localapps are too difficult for you, stop using them, switch to fat clients
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| 08:50 | <ame> but i have install this arduino board in my server and i make some two application only to run in local
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| 08:51 | If i give udevadm monitor in xterm its showing command not found
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| 08:51 | <alkisg> Then you don't have it installed in the chroot
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| 08:51 | <ame> no
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| 08:51 | <alkisg> ame: switch to fat clients
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| 08:51 | It'll be much easier for you
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| 08:52 | <ame> In the sense
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| 08:52 | <alkisg> LTSP fat clients, they are netbooted
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| 08:52 | They don't need hard disks
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| 08:52 | <ame> yes offcourse my clients are also netbooted and no hardisk
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| 08:52 | <alkisg> Do you understand this sentence? "stop using localapps and thin clients, and create a new chroot for fat clients"
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| 08:53 | <ame> tell me some commands for me to check whether i am using thin client or fat client
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| 08:54 | <alkisg> You are using thin clients
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| 08:54 | <ame> ok
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| 08:54 | <alkisg> arm: on the server: ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/xsessions/
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| 08:55 | <ame> how to switch to fat clients??/If i switch to fat clients will my thin client device works??
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| 08:55 | <alkisg> To switch to fat clients you need to read those wiki pages:
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| 08:55 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 08:55 | <ltsp`> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 08:55 | <alkisg> !fatclients
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| 08:55 | <ltsp`> fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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| 08:55 | <ame> ls: cannot access /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/xsessions/: No such file or directory
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| 08:55 | <alkisg> To see if your thin client device will work, tell us its CPU and RAM
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| 08:55 | How much RAM do your thin clients have?
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| 08:56 | (10:55:24 πμ) ame: ls: cannot access /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/xsessions/: No such file or directory ==> that means you're using THIN clients
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| 08:56 | <ame> ok
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| 08:57 | but my mozilla and a software name freecad is working on my clients by taking clients RAM memory and not server memory
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| 08:57 | <alkisg> (10:55:47 πμ) alkisg: How much RAM do your thin clients have?
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| 08:58 | <ame> i have 10 computers and two thin client device.All booted in PXE boot
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| 08:58 | 10 computers having 2GB RAM
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| 08:58 | <alkisg> Those 10 computers will work better as fat clients than as thin clients
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| 08:58 | <ame> And the 2 thin client device with 512 MB RAM
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| 08:59 | <alkisg> Those 2 computers will work as fat clients, but they will be a bit slow
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| 08:59 | <ame> And hereafter my management plans to purchase only thin clients
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| 08:59 | <alkisg> Buy better thin clients with 2 GB RAM
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| 08:59 | <ame> ok
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| 08:59 | <alkisg> Read the wiki pages I said above ^
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| 09:00 | <ame> so i need to configure my server again from first
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| 09:00 | ??
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| 09:00 | <alkisg> No
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| 09:00 | <ame> Then??
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| 09:00 | <alkisg> Read
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| 09:00 | Read wiki
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| 09:00 | Read wiki
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| 09:00 | OK? :)
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| 09:00 | <ame> ok
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| 09:01 | and one more doubt At my present environment some of my computers desktop takes time for desktop to load fully
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| 09:01 | Other clients loading like normal computer
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| 09:02 | why it takes time??
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| 09:02 | <alkisg> Try fat clients first and solve problems later
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| 09:02 | <ame> ok
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| 09:03 | for arduino board also this is the solution??
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| 09:03 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 09:03 | <ame> ok then
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| 09:03 | <alkisg> Read ltsp-pnp first. If it suits you, use that one. If not, use fatclients.
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| 09:03 | <ame> ok
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| 13:30 | <valeriobozzolan> I have to report that the wiki.ltsp.org server is down
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| 13:30 | Since yesterday at least
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| 13:45 | <Hyperbyte> Should be up again now.
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| 13:45 | <valeriobozzolan> Wow
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| 13:46 | Sorry, what about arm thin clients?
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| 13:46 | I have to generate an arm image on the LTSP server?
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| 13:47 | Or I can only push on my arm device, a microsystem that know the LTSP IP?
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| 13:47 | (In order to avoid PXE, right?)
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| 13:48 | <Hyperbyte> I have no idea
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| 13:48 | !pi
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| 13:48 | <ltsp`> Error: "pi" is not a valid command.
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| 13:48 | <Hyperbyte> !raspberrypi
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| 13:48 | <ltsp`> raspberrypi: (#1) LTSP with raspberry pi: http://cascadia.debian.net/trenza/Documentation/raspberrypi-ltsp-howto/, or (#2) To use a similar environment to LTSP on the raspberry pi http://berryterminal.com/, or (#3) https://github.com/gbaman/RaspberryPi-LTSP, or (#4) https://pi-ltsp.net
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| 13:48 | <Hyperbyte> !arm
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| 13:48 | <ltsp`> I do not know about 'arm', but I do know about these similar topics: 'a', 'ask'
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| 13:48 | <Hyperbyte> Well at least that's something.
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| 13:51 | <valeriobozzolan> Hyperbyte: OK thanks. So there is no necessity to build an arm image, right? Because the tftp server does not operare?
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| 13:52 | Hyperbyte: There is only the necessity to have a microsystem arm yet installed on the arm devices I think
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| 13:52 | I think is what RaspberryPi-LTSP do
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| 21:29 | <epoptes_user6> Is ther any English user guide .pdf file any where on how to use the software
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| 21:31 | <vagrantc> for epoptes?
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| 21:31 | epoptes_user6: all i know about is: http://www.epoptes.org/documentation
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