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06:26 | <gate_keeper_> hi guys,
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06:27 | why when i boot my client after dchp request ..
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06:27 | i get message TFTP Open timeout
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06:27 | with tcpdump i get IP 192.168.1.250.2076 > karev.local.tftp: 43 RRQ "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0" octet blksize 1456
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07:15 | <Blinny> Happy SysAdmin day everyone.
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07:42 | <ace_suares> Hi Blinny
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07:42 | Happy Syasdmin day :-)
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07:42 | !seen ogra
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07:42 | <ltspbot> ace_suares: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 11 hours, 51 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <ogra> i have a ton of ubuntu ones always with me .... but i keep my OSCON one on me
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07:42 | <ace_suares> !seen jammcq
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07:42 | <ltspbot> ace_suares: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 1 day, 15 hours, 5 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <jammcq> and they have it at this place
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07:42 | <ace_suares> http://www.suares.an/index.php?page_id=25&news_id=220#news-top
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07:58 | <Blinny> Parallel mksquashfs: Using 8 processors
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08:00 | <laga> show-off ;)
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08:11 | <Blinny> heh
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08:36 | Can I install ntfs-3g in my thin client image to enable NTFS RW?
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08:37 | <cyberorg> Blinny, it is installed in opensuse ltsp
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08:38 | <Blinny> heh
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08:38 | I'll take that as a "Yes" (;
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08:43 | <Blinny> BRB, rebooting new image.
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09:15 | <gate_keeper_> still the same problem with TFTP
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09:15 | PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout
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11:34 | <warren> sweet.
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11:35 | stat seems to work with sshfs if the server is running openssh-5.1
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12:13 | <warren> ogra: you already got a ride from the hotel?
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12:24 | <ogra> warren, i ot up 5 min ago
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12:26 | <ogra> warren, heh, thats what i call syncronization .... while i typed eric knocked
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12:28 | <ogra> i need 1h to wake up and shower, then i'll head over, the night went rather a bit long
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12:28 | <warren> Donnie just woke up
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12:28 | <ogra> <cjwatson> ogra: openssh 5.1p1 in intrepid now, enjoy
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12:28 | * ogra dances | |
12:29 | * ogra calls this the day of perfect timings :) | |
12:29 | <warren> ogra: stat seems to work at least at the command line
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12:29 | ogra: I haven't tested any actual apps
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12:29 | <ogra> ouch .... dancing ... not so good today
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12:30 | warren, are you still at erics place or at freegeek already
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12:30 | ?
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12:30 | <warren> ogra: eric's
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12:30 | <ogra> ah
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12:30 | donnie is there ?
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12:30 | <warren> yes
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12:33 | <ogra> any trace of sbalneav and jammcq ?
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12:34 | * ogra hopes they use their hangover kit (if they still got one when they arrived) | |
12:34 | <ogra> they switched to whisky at some point ... not their usual stuff
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13:06 | <vagrantc> ogra, warren: when can we expect y'all? :)
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13:13 | <jammcq> hey guys
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13:15 | <vagrantc> gang's nearly all here
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13:15 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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13:17 | <vagrantc> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/HackFest2008
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13:18 | <ogra> vagrantc, stop that texan accent ! :)
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13:18 | <vagrantc> ogra: heh.
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13:19 | !bestdistro
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13:19 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: Error: "bestdistro" is not a valid command.
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13:19 | * ogra just got up 1h ago and needed to answer some urgent mails, i'll ping eric soon | |
13:19 | <vagrantc> !bestltspdistro
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13:19 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "bestltspdistro" is whatever you prefer
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13:19 | <ogra> vagrantc, <cjwatson> ogra: openssh 5.1p1 in intrepid now, enjoy
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13:22 | <warren> jammcq: http://k12linux.fedorahosted.org
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13:23 | jammcq: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=188611&hide_resolved=1
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13:23 | <vagrantc> jammcq: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-ltsp-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
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13:27 | <dberkholz> jammcq: https://bugs.gentoo.org/ for the tracker, https://bugs.gentoo.org/177580 is about the best there is for a main page
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13:31 | <dberkholz> i suppose https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=ltsp&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED would work to show all ltsp bugs
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13:31 | <japerry> jammcq, http://devzilla.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/ for the OpenSUSE kiwi-ltsp bug page
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13:35 | <ogra> jammcq, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ldm for ubuntu
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13:35 | * ogra calls eric | |
13:38 | <warren> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436913 cdpinger segfaulting
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13:39 | <vagrantc> ogra: +source/ltspfs ?
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13:40 | <ogra> oh, thanks
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13:40 | indeed
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13:43 | <vagrantc> jammcq: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=471793 ldm and pam logout
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13:43 | jammcq: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=490897 doesn't work with tcsh (heh.)
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13:45 | jammcq: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=482553 password change doesn't work (partially addressed, but still an issue)
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13:47 | <cyberorg> our only pending bug is: http://devzilla.novell.com/kiwi-ltsp/show_bug.cgi?id=14 (nbdrootd processes remain active after clients are disconct)
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13:50 | <vagrantc> cyberorg: have you tried adding to /etc/hosts.allow:
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13:50 | nbdrootd: ALL: keepalive
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13:50 | nbdswapd: ALL: keepalive
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13:51 | <cyberorg> vagrantc, we dont have that, would that make nbdrootd disappear after disconnect?
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13:51 | <vagrantc> cyberorg: not immediately, but after a 1-2 hour timeout, at least.
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13:52 | <cyberorg> i was thinking of adding nbd-server -a <about 24 h> in nbdrood
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13:53 | -a|--idle-time maximum idle seconds; server terminates
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13:53 | <vagrantc> cyberorg: http://bugs.debian.org/409531
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13:53 | cyberorg: i didn't have good luck with that
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13:55 | <cyberorg> japerry, X -configure does not support multiple screens
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13:56 | how does multi head work with ltsp/ldm?
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13:56 | <japerry> cyberorg, we tried it at OSCON but it failed to do both screens
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13:57 | <cyberorg> japerry, you probably need xorg.conf and disable xorg auto configuration
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13:58 | <japerry> cyberorg, I wonder what that will do for every different client? luckily the only dual screen was a projector and not a big deal
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13:58 | <japerry> the other issue we're having is you used to be able to have different TTYs have rdesktop, X, shell, etc
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13:59 | <japerry> you can't have SCREEN_01 = screen; SCREEN_07 = LDM -- causes LDM to not boot
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13:59 | not sure if this is opensuse specific or LTSP5 in general
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14:01 | <vagrantc> johnny2: you around?
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14:02 | <cyberorg> lejo, try what vagrantc said ^^ for nbdrootd not going away
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14:05 | <vagrantc> cyberorg: you run it from inetd ?
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14:05 | <cyberorg> japerry, keymap config is copied over from the server, so whatever keyboard settings you have there would come to client
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14:06 | vagrantc, xinetd
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14:06 | <vagrantc> cyberorg: ok, we use openbsd-inetd ... so not sure it will work the same.
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14:06 | <japerry> cyberorg, okay -- checking. testing the us keymap settings first
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14:06 | <cyberorg> vagrantc, -a works here, even if nbd dies client session keeps running fine, problem happen only on logout
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14:07 | <johnny> sorry, my transport wasn't setting the proper presence packet, so i couldn't talk (altho i could view)
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14:07 | i'm still at the house, trying to take care of some work i couldn't do last night due to being stuck at the lucky lab
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14:07 | sadly the wifi was not so good :(
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14:07 | i'm trying to head down there in the next hour
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14:08 | <dberkholz> good deal
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14:08 | we'll probably be getting lunch before long
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14:08 | <johnny> where?
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14:08 | <dberkholz> dunno
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14:10 | <johnny> PM me your #? in case i arrive at that time window?
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14:11 | <jammcq> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDistroSupport
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14:11 | review plz
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14:11 | <dberkholz> johnny: it's at http://dberkholz.wordpress.com/about/
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14:12 | jammcq: bugtracker link isn't right for gentoo
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14:13 | <cyberorg> jammcq, en.opensuse.org/LTSP is the website
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14:13 | *http://
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14:18 | <eharrison> jammcq: what time is the diner reservation?
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14:20 | <jammcq> eharrison: 7pm
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14:21 | <vagrantc> jammcq: dinner info on the hackfest2008 page? good idea?
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14:23 | <dberkholz> jammcq: thx for fixing the bugtracker link! i was just about to do it if you hadn't had a chance
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14:26 | <cyberorg> my project this ltsphack week is the create ltsp5 USB stick
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14:26 | hackfest*
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14:26 | <vagrantc> cyberorg: talk to gadi about that
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14:27 | <cyberorg> vagrantc, i am working on it since last couple of hours, i am just inches away :)
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14:27 | <vagrantc> cyberorg: gadi's got something like that too
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14:27 | <cyberorg> i get it booting, ltsp inti script runs too, but networking fails :(
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14:28 | where is Gadi ?
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14:28 | <vagrantc> cyberorg: he's here at the hackfest
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14:29 | <jammcq> Gadi's at the whiteboard right now
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14:29 | <warren> ogra: libpamtmpdir?
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14:29 | <cyberorg> ah, ok, will keep you all posted
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14:29 | <ogra> warren, hmm, no, i'm apparently wrong
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14:29 | Description: automatic per-user temporary directories
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14:30 | i dont see it packaged :(
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14:30 | <vagrantc> libpam-tmpdir ?
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14:31 | <warren> so debian/ubuntu doesn't have it packaged?
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14:31 | <japerry> neither does OpenSUSE
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14:31 | <vagrantc> warren: what are you asking about?
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14:31 | <ogra> aha libpam-pwdfile
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14:31 | that looks more like it
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14:31 | Description: PAM module allowing authentication via an /etc/passwd-like file
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14:32 | <warren> vagrantc: what package contains it in debian
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14:32 | <vagrantc> warren: contains what?
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14:32 | <warren> pam_extrafiles
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14:36 | <vagrantc> libnss-extrausers ?
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14:38 | Description: nss module to have an additional passwd, shadow and group file
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14:43 | <warren> vagrantc: libnss is pam related?
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14:44 | <vagrantc> warren: exactly how it works is rather blurry to me
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14:45 | <cyberorg> woot!! got ldm up from usb stick :) now to copy parts that fetch config files from the server
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14:46 | <vagrantc> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libnss-extrausers
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14:47 | <cyberorg> japerry, you may be able to demonstrate live ltsp5 usb at the hackfest :)
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14:47 | <japerry> hehe
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14:47 | that'd be cool, I just need to get a usb key
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14:47 | cyberorg, sorta sad, I still have never bought a usb key =P
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14:48 | <cyberorg> here is it about $10 for a 2G stick
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15:00 | <sbalneav> Everyone get on up
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15:00 | AND DANCE
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15:00 | :D\-<
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15:00 | :D|-<
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15:00 | :D/-<
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15:01 | <laga> still drunk? ;)
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15:01 | <cyberorg> sbalneav, seems very happy :)
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15:01 | <sbalneav> Nah, stone cold sober, unfortunately. :)
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15:02 | <Q-FUNK> !s
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15:02 | <ltspbot> Q-FUNK: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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15:03 | <sbalneav> So, after lunch, LDM code review/rewrite.
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15:03 | Hey hey
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15:03 | <japerry> cyberorg, new image booted perfectly
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15:03 | <cyberorg> japerry, cool :)
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15:09 | <ogra> Gadi, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/cmpc/cmpc-gen1-installer and the classmate-initramfs package in hardy
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15:57 | <roberto__> howto include onboard network sis190 in ltsp5?
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16:08 | <cyberorg> vagrantc, japerry i now have fully functional usb stick, i could log in from a client !!!
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16:12 | <gbolte> I am what are you talking about :P
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16:12 | <gbolte> what did I miss
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16:13 | <cyberorg> gbolte, just running kiwi-ltsp-setup -u gets you live ltsp5 usb
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16:13 | <gbolte> nice
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16:14 | <cyberorg> committed the work in branches/kiwi-ltsp-usb, if you have a stick around you can give it a try
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16:14 | <gbolte> guess that fixes the "need to have pxe"
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16:15 | <cyberorg> yeah, pxe not required, over the wan connection could be possible?
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16:15 | <gbolte> cyberorg, will it work with devices other than usb sticks?
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16:15 | like cdrom or god forbid floppy?
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16:15 | er actually floppy is too small
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16:16 | but maybe cdrom?
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16:16 | <cyberorg> gbolte, now we would be easily be able to deploy it anywhere, cdrom, hdd, xen, vmware, everywhere kiwi supports
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16:16 | no floppy
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16:16 | <gbolte> hah nice
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16:17 | <cyberorg> embedded ltsp clients!!
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16:17 | well the hackfest was quite fruitful for me :)
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16:18 | <gbolte> sounds like it
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16:20 | <cyberorg> you guys go buy usb stick and show off at the hackfest
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16:20 | * cyberorg goes to bed | |
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16:23 | <cyberorg> captain_maGNUs, a lot of cleaning work for you to do, i have made a mess of scripts
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16:23 | ogra, got usb stick working :)
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16:27 | <gbolte> :)
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17:11 | <gbolte> japerry, so I just plugged in esmaels pc and its acting fine now
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17:11 | lol
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17:19 | <japerry> gbolte, hmm
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17:19 | but it was broken at his desk eh?
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17:19 | <gbolte> yeah
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17:19 | yeah
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17:19 | but now its fine
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17:20 | blah
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17:21 | <japerry> lol what happens when the password expires when you log in?
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17:21 | <japerry> gbolte, ^^^
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17:22 | <gbolte> hu?
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17:22 | <dberkholz> anyone know where i could find a list of which files ltspfs installs on a client vs a server?
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17:22 | <japerry> if a user has an expired password, does it prompt now, or does it lock up the system?
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17:23 | <gbolte> I think its still gonna break the system
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17:23 | <japerry> like it locks up?
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17:23 | <gbolte> prolly
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17:24 | thats what it used to do
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17:24 | so unless it got fixed
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17:24 | yes
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17:24 | :D
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17:25 | <ltsppbot> "ogra" pasted "old setup ltspfsd (thin client) install targets for dberkholz" (10 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/39
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17:25 | <japerry> gbolte, LDM now supports SSH messages
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17:25 | <ltsppbot> "ogra" pasted "old setup ltspfs (server) install targets for dberkholz" (7 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/40
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17:27 | <gbolte> oh ok
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17:27 | cool
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17:27 | brb
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17:28 | <japerry> kk
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17:31 | <dberkholz> thx ogra
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18:09 | <Ryan52> vagrantc: how do I get the debian packaging stuff? I lost all of my LTSP checkouts...
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18:09 | vagrantc: not how, but where's the bzr branch...thought it was http://bzr.debian.org/pkg-ltsp/ldm/ldm-debian-packaging/ , but that didn't work...
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18:10 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: https://code.launchpad.net/~vagrantc
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18:10 | oh, that could work too
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18:10 | Ryan52: that URL looks right to me ...
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18:11 | Ryan52: might just be intermittant network issues
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18:11 | <Ryan52> lp must likes me better than alioth :)
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18:11 | I'm checking it out on my home system...
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18:23 | <johnny> it'd be nice if obsolete branches were shown as such
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18:29 | <Ryan52> vagrantc: is there any reason why you don't have the controlgen script being ran in the postinst...I should be able to just checkout and run debuild.
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18:29 | <jammcq> hey kidz
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18:30 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: postinst ?
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18:30 | <Ryan52> err, rules :)
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18:30 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: can't do that, as it will mess with autobuilders
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18:31 | <Ryan52> vagrantc: can you explain?
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18:31 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: can't have anything in debian/rules that runs automatically that could potentialyl change debian/control
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18:31 | as it'll mess the buildd's up
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18:32 | <Ryan52> It wouldn't even help at all because dpkg-buildpackage read control before debian/rules...nevermind!
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18:40 | vagrantc: why don't you run autogen.sh in rules?
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18:40 | <vagrantc> Ryan52: similar basic reasons
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19:21 | <dberkholz> warren: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libnss-extrausers
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19:21 | <Gadi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ltsp-localapps
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19:26 | <dberkholz> http://dev.inversepath.com/openssh-lpk/ has patches for ssh auth via ldap, fwiw
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19:30 | <rjune> Gadi: ?
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19:34 | <Gadi> rjune: hey
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19:35 | <rjune> what are you donig around?
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19:35 | <Gadi> heh - Shabbat starts later on the left coast ;)
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19:37 | <jammcq> Gadi: what time does it start?
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19:37 | <Gadi> a very good question
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19:37 | :)
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19:37 | I waas gonna keep an eye on the sun
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19:37 | lemme look it up...
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19:38 | <jammcq> kinda hard, when it's behind you
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19:40 | <rjune> Gadi: you're gone at 1700 every day, shabbat or not
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19:40 | <Gadi> oooh: 8:29 PM
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19:41 | thats even later than back home
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19:41 | rjune: Im in Portland
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19:41 | <rjune> Jews on the west coast are more laid back.
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19:41 | I assumed you went home to spend time with your family as opposed to anything religious
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19:42 | <Gadi> heh - no family on the left coast
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19:42 | :)
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19:42 | <rjune> you don't have a family on both coasts?
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20:07 | <vagrantc> ogra: https://code.launchpad.net/~vagrantc/ltsp/ldm-debian-packaging
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20:24 | <Ryan52> vagrantc: deb http://rsn.no-ip.org:4000/dev/ unstable/
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20:24 | vagrantc: in sources.list
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