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Channel log from 21 April 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:57 | <gnunux> hi
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| 07:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: ping?
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| 08:40 | <dragonbch> hello to all?
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| 08:42 | I've other little problem with tftp. the client pc say:
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| 08:42 | TFTP. . . . .
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| 08:42 | TFTP. .
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| 08:42 | PXE-E11: Opent timeout.
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| 08:42 | why? how I may resolve? pls!
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| 08:56 | <komunista> hi all
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| 08:59 | <sbalneav> _UsUrPeR_: Pong
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| 08:59 | Morning all
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| 08:59 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: thanks. Gimme a bit :)
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| 09:00 | <sbalneav> NP
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| 09:13 | <vbundi> dragonbch: how is your system set up, 64bit, 2 nics or 1?
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| 09:17 | <dragonbch> vbundi that?
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| 09:17 | <abeehc> that!
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| 09:20 | <dragonbch> mmm I speak little english sorry
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| 09:20 | <vbundi> type uname -a
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| 09:20 | <dragonbch> I've 32bit and 1 interface of net
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| 09:20 | <vbundi> ok
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| 09:20 | <dragonbch> Linux server 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Mar 26 01:08:11 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
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| 09:20 | <vbundi> have you started your dhcp server?
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| 09:21 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: after some experimentation with Sabayon, I have discovered the need to delete a user's /home/<user>/.local directory for some changes to profiles to take effect.
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| 09:21 | <vbundi> _UsUrPeR_ ohh maybe thats why it didn't save changes for me yesterday
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| 09:21 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: The removal of the .local directory is only required AFTER a user has already had a sabayon profile applied to the user
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| 09:21 | <dragonbch> yes
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| 09:22 | <vbundi> dragonbch: ps ax|grep dhcpd
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| 09:22 | <dragonbch> whether, and to set the IP addresses correctly...
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| 09:22 | <vbundi> ok
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| 09:22 | <dragonbch> 2574 ? Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/dhcpd3 -q eth0
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| 09:22 | <_UsUrPeR_> vbundi: indeed that may be why
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| 09:23 | <vbundi> cool
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| 09:24 | <dragonbch> look vbundi http://pastebin.com/CWLEFsxW
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| 09:25 | <vbundi> _UsUrPeR_: my sabayon profile is created for a user, and I deleted the /home/user/.local directory... but my changes are not applied... (ie menu changes and wallpaper)
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| 09:28 | <sbalneav> _UsUrPeR_: Well, the problem may be, we really shouldn't just WIPE the .local directory, as the user may have settings stored there that AREN'T being controlled by sabayon.
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| 09:29 | So, one supposes what we should do, is see what applications that use .local in the profile are, then wipe those .local directories, leaving the rest.
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| 09:30 | <_UsUrPeR_> I concur. The .local changes I know are affected pertain to the panel options. I.E. applications, places, system
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| 09:30 | <sbalneav> so, if the sabayon profile is storing .local/share/rythmbox, we shouldn't wipe the users .local/share/Empathy.
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| 09:30 | <vbundi> sbalneav: why not take a copy of the .local directory for the user, have sabayon make changes to the files within, and then move them back
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| 09:31 | that way, only files that have been modified will be overwritten
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| 09:31 | <sbalneav> sabayon does that now. It simply unpacks whatever is in .local in the profile.
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| 09:32 | the problem will be, if you have EXTRA stuff in your own .local, then that won't get cleared out.
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| 09:32 | <vbundi> oh I didn't realize it was the extra stuff causing the problem
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| 09:33 | <sbalneav> Well, we have a much bigger problem than that anyway that needs to get solved before Gnome 3 comes out.
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| 09:33 | gconf is disappearing, to be replaced by gsettings
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| 09:34 | which will work completely differently.
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| 09:34 | And so far, I haven't been able to confirm that gsetting will have the "clone" feature that sabayon uses from gconf to register a listener to track gconf changes.
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| 09:35 | So, it's entirely possible that sabayon may not work at all for gnome 3 :/
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| 09:35 | Unless they've either a) got that feature in there, or b) I can convince them to add it.
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| 09:36 | <vmlintu> interesting, I've never even heard of gsettings before
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| 09:36 | <_UsUrPeR_> another interesting issue I am experiencing: remember how I had described using a few simlinks in /etc/skel? When changes are made to any sabayon profile, the symlinked directories' ownership is changed to sabayon-admin:sabayon-admin
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| 09:36 | A simple change back to normal is all that's required
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| 09:36 | <sbalneav> http://live.gnome.org/dconf
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| 10:55 | <dragonbch> vbundi I had changed the dhcp
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| 10:55 | but is equal
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| 10:55 | :s
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> dragonbch: is that a tftp server or a dhcp server?
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| 10:57 | <vbundi> dragonbch: ahh, sorry that it didn't work for you... you have some non-standard things that I'm not really sure how to work with
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> Is your tftp server running?
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| 10:57 | <dragonbch> the same
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| 10:57 | ok thank vbundi
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> *sorry I mean "a tftp server or a dhcp server PROBLEM"?
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| 10:57 | <dragonbch> tftp
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| 10:57 | <alkisg> Is your tftp server running?
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| 10:57 | invoke-rc.d tftpd-hpa status
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| 10:58 | or `netstat -nap | grep :69" - if it runs from inetd..
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| 10:58 | <dragonbch> server:~# invoke-rc.d tftpd-hpa restart
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| 10:58 | Restarting HPA's tftpd: in.tftpdinvoke-rc.d: initscript tftpd-hpa, action "restart" failed.
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| 10:58 | server:~#
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| 11:01 | I've /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
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| 11:01 | #Defaults for tftpd-hpa
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| 11:01 | RUN_DAEMON="yes"
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| 11:01 | OPTIONS="-l -s /tftpboot"
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| 11:02 | <highvoltage> hi, I need some help in determining whether an interface is up
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| 11:02 | <dragonbch> this is my /etc/hosts.allow
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| 11:02 | nbdrootd: ALL: keepalive
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| 11:02 | bootpd 0.0.0.0. #Estoy permitiendo a la red de clase 192.168.74.
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| 11:02 | in.tftpd: 192.168.74. # tener acceso a mis servicios de transferencia de
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| 11:02 | portmap: 192.168.74.#archivos
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| 11:02 | <highvoltage> at the moment I do an ifconfig for an interface and grep for "inet addr"
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| 11:02 | <dragonbch> is good?
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| 11:02 | <highvoltage> which works fine, the problem is that it breaks in other languages (like in french where it's "inet adr"
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| 11:02 | <vbundi> sbalneav: changes that I am making with sbayon ('Administration > User profile Editor') are not being saved... I created a profile called 'users' and changed some gnome-menu things, logged out of 'sabayon-admin' and then hit edit again, and my changes are all gone
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| 11:03 | *sabayon even
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| 11:07 | <komunista> highvoltage: try: LANG=C ifconfig ...
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| 11:07 | <highvoltage> komunista: ah, nice one, I should've thought of that, thanks :)
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| 11:10 | <komunista> I have non english locales too ;-)
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| 11:12 | <alkisg> dragonbch: grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf
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| 11:37 | <sbalneav> vbundi: Which version of sabayon are you using?
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| 11:38 | <vbundi> sbalneav: one sec
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| 11:39 | sbalneav: the one from the lucid repos I believe
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| 11:40 | <dragonbch> alkisg
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| 11:40 | tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /tftpboot
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| 11:40 | <vbundi> sbalneav: if I added your ppa using apt-add-repository would it show in my /etc/apt/sources?
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| 11:41 | sbalneav: wait... went into the gnome 'software sources' app, I see that I have added your ppa for lucid main
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| 11:53 | sbalneav: sorry my bad.. I wasn't saving my profile, I was logging out.. doh... works properly :)
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| 11:59 | <sbalneav> vbundi: Well, the main one for lucid should be fine.
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| 11:59 | <vbundi> yeah I see that I'm using the one from your ppa
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| 11:59 | <sbalneav> off for lunch, back in a bit.
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| 11:59 | <alkisg> dragonbch: ok, so you're using inetd, try `netstat -nap | grep :69` to see if tftp is running
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| 12:04 | <dragonbch> netstat -nap | grep :69
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| 12:04 | udp6 0 0 :::69 :::* 2248/inetutils-inet
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| 12:06 | <alkisg> And the file /tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 is there?
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| 12:07 | (are you sure -s /tftpboot in inetd.conf is correct?)
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| 12:10 | <dragonbch> ls /tftpboot/ltsp/i386
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| 12:10 | config-2.6.26-2-486 initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686 nbi.img-2.6.26-2-486 pxelinux.cfg vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-486
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| 12:10 | config-2.6.26-2-686 initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686.bak nbi.img-2.6.26-2-686 System.map-2.6.26-2-486 vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686
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| 12:10 | initrd.img initrd.img.old nbi.img.old System.map-2.6.26-2-686 vmlinuz.old
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| 12:10 | initrd.img-2.6.26-2-486 nbi.img *pxelinux.0* vmlinuz
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| 12:10 | server:~#
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| 12:10 | all correct
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| 12:13 | tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /tftpboot
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| 12:17 | <thunsucker> dragonbch: pastebot!
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| 12:17 | pastbot!: dragonbch
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| 12:17 | lol bot died?
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| 12:19 | <dragonbch> ok
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| 12:30 | <bulletxt> hi, has someone tried ltsp with ubuntu 10.04 pre releasE?
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| 12:36 | <alkisg> bulletxt: yes, many have tried it...
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| 12:36 | <bulletxt> is it stable? I mean, I have to choose between ubuntu 9.10 and ubuntu 10.04 :) what should I go for?
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| 12:37 | <thunsucker> bullext: go 10.04 but wait for the stable release
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| 12:37 | <bulletxt> yea
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| 12:37 | <alkisg> bulletxt: for production? or personal use? It's a little unstable for production, and I think it'll take some months for it to stabilize...
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| 12:38 | <bulletxt> for production use alkisg
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| 12:38 | so you suggest to keep safe with 9.10?
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| 12:38 | <bulletxt> im actually afraid of 10.04 for all the backports they're doing
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> I'm afraid of upstart breakage :)
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| 12:39 | <bulletxt> :)
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| 12:39 | <alkisg> (yesterday it was tftp, now it's mysql...)
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| 12:40 | <bulletxt> mm.... I think I'll stay with 9.10 :)
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| 12:40 | <dragonbch> I has remove, purge and install tftpd-hpa again but is same
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> I think some weeks after the release, it'll stabilize enough...
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| 12:40 | <bulletxt> yea maybe when they do the 6 month update, like around july
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| 12:41 | ill try todays current 10.04 image in a vm
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| 13:45 | <bulletxt> does ltsp somehow share some resources? for example if there 5 users logged all with firefox opened, does the server really consume firefox process 5 times?
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| 13:53 | <abeehc> i'm not certain about ff; but openoffice does that in some respect i think
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| 14:09 | <_UsUrPeR_> I am having some issues getting ltsp-update-sshkeys to work with ltsp-cluster in 10.04. Has anybody run into this yet?
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| 14:14 | <Gadi> _UsUrPeR_: ltsp-cluster hands out the ssh keys from the app server - you shouldn't need ssh-updatekeys
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| 14:14 | er, update-sshkeys
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| 14:15 | and by app server I mean control center
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| 14:15 | man, I should quit while Im ahead
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| 14:15 | <_UsUrPeR_> ahh :)
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| 14:15 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok, so if it's not properly handing out sshkeys, where should I be looking?
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| 14:16 | clients boot alright, they list that they are connected to the sundry test appservers, but it's apparent that sshkeys do not exist for the clients
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| 14:16 | <Gadi> apparent how?
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| 14:18 | <_UsUrPeR_> If I switch to a shell on the client (ctrl+alt+F2), when sshing to the the app server it's connected to, or the clusterserver, it states that the server is not in it's known hosts
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| 14:18 | <_UsUrPeR_> which, in the past, indicated that the ssh keys did not exist
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| 14:18 | or were incorrect
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| 14:18 | <Gadi> hmm...
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| 14:21 | <Gadi> is LDM_SERVER running anything on port 8001?
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| 14:21 | (it should be)
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| 14:21 | <_UsUrPeR_> one second. lemme check
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| 14:22 | Gadi: http://pastebin.com/4KWZNDrD
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| 14:23 | that's the listing of what's running on 8001. ldm_server doesn't appear to be running at all
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| 14:23 | <Gadi> that looks good
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| 14:24 | what do you get when you do:
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| 14:24 | echo "getkey" |nc -q-1 $LDM_SERVER
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| 14:24 | (obviously make sure you put the LDM_SERVER IP instead of the variable)
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| 14:25 | <Gadi> oops
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| 14:25 | and should be:
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| 14:25 | echo "getkey" |nc -q-1 $LDM_SERVER 8001
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| 14:26 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: nc seems to have a problem with something in there
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| 14:28 | <Gadi> that could be your problem then
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| 14:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: http://pastebin.com/66qimLTH
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| 14:29 | <Gadi> did you set LDM_SERVER?
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| 14:29 | LDM_SERVER=1.2.3.4
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| 14:29 | <_UsUrPeR_> LDM_SERVER=%LOADBALANCER% according to the admin web site
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| 14:30 | <Gadi> no, I mean for this test
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| 14:30 | do:
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| 14:30 | cho "getkey" |nc -q-1 1.2.3.4 8001
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| 14:30 | (where 1.2.3.4 = one of the test app servers)
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| 14:31 | <_UsUrPeR_> AHH! ok, I see
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| 14:31 | no return
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| 14:31 | <Gadi> that command should return an ssh key
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| 14:32 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: http://pastebin.com/CPRBqFsJ
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| 14:32 | no returns there from ssh keys.
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| 14:37 | <Gadi> check ltsp-cluster -accountmanger to see if it is running and if the /etc/ltsp config file is ok
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| 14:37 | <_UsUrPeR_> k
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| 14:44 | nothing weird in /etc/ltsp config files. both appservers are reporting in according to /var/log/ltsp-cluster0lbserver.log
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| 14:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: what is the ltsp-cluster -accountmanager? The only thing I am seeing is the ltsp-cluster-lbserver on the server
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| 14:45 | <Gadi> are you looking at the app server?
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| 14:45 | I am talking about the app server
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| 14:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> ahh
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| 14:46 | one moment
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| 14:47 | <Gadi> each app server should have ltsp-cluster-accountmanager
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| 14:48 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok, on the appserves, accountmanager is not running
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| 14:49 | and the config file in /etc/ltsp/accountmanager.conf has an entry for key=PUT_A_KEY_HERE
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| 14:49 | this it new :/
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| 14:49 | * _UsUrPeR_ puts a key there | |
| 14:50 | <Gadi> no no
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| 14:50 | leave it be
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| 14:50 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok
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| 14:50 | <Gadi> just restart the service
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| 14:50 | then, try getting a key with that getkey command
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| 14:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> hmm
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| 14:51 | ok
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| 14:51 | seems to be running now
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| 14:51 | <dragonbch> I managed to correctly configure the ltsp server, thanks you
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| 14:51 | alkisg, vbundi
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| 14:52 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey! It's working now.
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| 14:52 | Gadi: thanks
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| 14:52 | <Gadi> my pleasure
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| 14:52 | * _UsUrPeR_ records for posterity | |
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| 17:11 | <Ahmuck> hi hi. i'm considering running a vbox application window for a windows program. possible through ubuntu ltsp thin client? has anybody tried this?
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| 17:16 | <vbundi> how many users do you want to access this vbox app
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| 17:18 | I don't see why it couldn't work for one user, but I've never tried it
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| 17:18 | <Ahmuck> 7 max
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| 17:19 | <vbundi> ok so you'll be running 7 windows virtual machines... thats 7x256MB ram
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| 17:20 | plus licensing for 7 windows XP licenses to run this app
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| 17:20 | you'd be way better off running a Windows Terminal server and RDPing from your linux terminal sessions to it
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| 17:25 | I'm out for the night.. bye all
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| 17:32 | <Ahmuck> no way to get the app to open without the vm?
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| 17:32 | open the app on demand and run from server?
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| 18:12 | <epaphus> Hello all.. I have an ltsp image with firefox... as a local app... However when using it on a thin client... intermittently firefox loads some pages, and some it just gives "page cannobe displayed" error.. also when pages do load they load half way. Flash sometimes works, and sometimes it doesnt.
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| 18:12 | Running firefox from the server goes fine
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| 18:12 | anybody ever seen such thing?
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| 18:24 | nevermind.. its the dns resolver that screwed up
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| 18:45 | <epaphus> Hey guys, is it possible to specify more then one IP for DNS_SERVER In lts.conf ?
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| 18:47 | <vagrantc> epaphus: should support multiple.
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| 18:47 | <epaphus> vagrantc, what is the syntax? a space, a comma.. ive tried all that no luck
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| 18:47 | <vagrantc> space
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| 18:47 | <epaphus> vagrantc, if i do a space then... in my thin clients
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| 18:48 | /etc/resolv.conf turn out to be:
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| 18:48 | nameserver 1.1.1.1 2.2.2.2 <-- is that valid? two IPs on one line?
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| 18:48 | <vagrantc> epaphus: what's the exact line in lts.conf ?
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| 18:48 | no, that's not valid
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| 18:49 | <epaphus> exact line is:
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| 18:49 | DNS_SERVER = 4.2.2.2
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| 18:49 | <vagrantc> when you specify 2?
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| 18:50 | <epaphus> DNS_SERVER = 4.2.2.2 208.67.222.220
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| 18:50 | <vagrantc> epaphus: what distro?
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| 18:50 | <epaphus> ubuntu 9.10
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| 18:53 | <vagrantc> looking at the code, the only thing i can think would be it's treating it as a single parameter...
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| 18:53 | for n in $DNS_SERVER; do
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| 18:53 | echo "nameserver ${n}" >> /etc/resolv.conf
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| 18:53 | done
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| 18:54 | <epaphus> vagrantc, ok.. those lines would go into lts.conf ?
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| 18:54 | <vagrantc> no, that's the code that handles that variable.
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| 18:54 | i don't see how it would generate one line.
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| 18:54 | <epaphus> ohh
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| 18:55 | vagrantc, iam going to try it again with a space. i must be doing something wrong
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| 18:55 | where is that code vagrantc ?
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| 18:55 | <vagrantc> epaphus: try with and without "" in lts.conf ...
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| 18:56 | <epaphus> DNS_SERVER = "4.2.2.2 208.67.222.220"
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| 18:56 | ok ill try that :)
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| 18:56 | <vagrantc> epaphus: i.e. DNS_SERVER="1.2.3.4 5.6.7.8" as well as DNS_SERVER= 1.2.3.4 5.6.7.8
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| 18:56 | <epaphus> thanks... ill try that...
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| 21:29 | <shinz> hi..
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| 21:29 | need help here..
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