IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 4 March 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:46 | <insegnante> hi, I'm trying to update chroot (kubuntu maverik 10.10) but I get the following error
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| 02:46 | Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
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| 02:46 | is installing dbus
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| 02:46 | <alkisg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/552404
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| 02:47 | <insegnante> hi, I'm markit from school
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| 02:47 | you are TOO fast dude
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| 02:47 | <alkisg> Hi, see the bug report, bbl, bb
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| 03:08 | <insegnante> ok, thanks a lot to alkisg, the fix worked fine, I would have been in real troubles
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| 03:08 | (next time better backup chroot FIRST)
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| 03:08 | see you
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| 06:50 | <jtwood> Hello everyone, good day.
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| 06:58 | <elias_a> G'day!
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| 06:59 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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| 07:33 | <vvinet> good morning
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| 07:36 | <damasceno> I'm using Debian + LTSP. How can i enable the LTSP clients to use usb device, with flash drivers?
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| 07:37 | My clients need to use flash drive in Thin clients... how can i enable this?
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| 07:40 | <alkisg> It should work automatically
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| 07:42 | <damasceno> alkisg, really? When i put the flash drive on usb, don't say nothing, and nothing work. I saw lsusb, and the flash drive device is not listed.
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| 08:02 | <sameerthahir> hello all, I am trying to use ltsp with debian squeeze, I am using a local mirror for access but am unable to specify multiple local mirrors using --mirror option, kindly help, thanks
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| 08:02 | I am using ltsp-build-client script
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| 08:03 | <alkisg> I think they're separated with commas?
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| 08:15 | <sameerthahir> alkisg, thanks let me try
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| 08:15 | alkisg, : nope not commas
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| 08:16 | <alkisg> sameerthahir: from Debian-functions:
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| 08:16 | add_mirrors() {
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| 08:16 | # feed a list of comma-separated or enter-separated mirrors,
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| 08:16 | # add them to the chroot's sources.list
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| 08:17 | <alkisg> So it is indeed comma separated
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| 08:17 | <alkisg> What's your exact command line?
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| 08:18 | <sameerthahir> alkisg, one second
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| 08:22 | <sameerthahir> alkisg, http://pastebin.com/7wNpjrUQ
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| 08:24 | <alkisg> sameerthahir: I see you only pass one mirror, not many. And are you completely sure you have the ltsp-client package in your local mirror?
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| 08:24 | <sameerthahir> alkisg,
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| 08:24 | alkisg, one second
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| 08:25 | <pmatulis> is there any way to limit a runaway client-invoked process other than by used memory (X_RAMPERC)?
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| 08:27 | <alkisg> sameerthahir: maybe you're looking for "--early-mirror add a mirror, which takes priority over the default mirror"
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| 08:30 | <sameerthahir> alkisg, let me try
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| 08:36 | <sameerthahir> alkisg, : It Worked !!! thanks
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| 08:37 | alkisg, : thanks a ton :D
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| 08:39 | alkisg, : LTSP client installation completed successfully \o/
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| 08:39 | <alkisg> ;)
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| 10:39 | <pmatulis> is there any way to limit a runaway client-invoked process other than by used memory (X_RAMPERC)? specifically CPU usage?
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| 11:01 | <Gadi> pmatulis: http://linux.die.net/man/5/limits.conf OR http://ss64.com/bash/ulimit.html
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| 11:11 | <pmatulis> Gadi: wouldn't that (cpu) effectively give a process a lifetime? the process will still be able to suck up cpu usage. i.e. no peak usage can be set?
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| 12:09 | <m4xx> i'm some times getting the error "tftp: client does not accept options"
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| 12:09 | <vagrantc> never seen it cause a problem
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| 12:09 | <m4xx> the client gets the error "busy box unable to connect to the server"
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| 12:09 | or something
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| 12:10 | <vagrantc> sure would be nice to figure out how to get it to stop making noise, since when people have other problems that's what we hear about :(
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| 12:10 | m4xx: that "or something" would be nice to figure out :)
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| 12:10 | <m4xx> so you think that's a different issue all together
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| 12:10 | sorry, it's hard to induce the error
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| 12:10 | <vagrantc> m4xx: the tftp client thing is just noise
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| 12:11 | <m4xx> it happens when it wants to
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| 12:11 | <vagrantc> ?
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| 12:12 | <m4xx> that's what i've read, it's from getting the file size
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| 12:12 | i guess
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| 12:12 | wasn't sure if it was part of the issue
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| 12:12 | if i'm understanding what i read, it connects to get the file size of the image or something, then cancels the connection resulting in that error
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| 12:22 | <m4xx> in googling i've found the error "Error: failed to connet to nbd server"
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| 12:22 | <alkisg> m4xx: you get busybox via tftp (along with the kernel + initrd)
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| 12:22 | So the tftp part is done successfully
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| 12:22 | Then it's network modules, nfs problems etc, but not tftp
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| 12:22 | <m4xx> in the same post it says to check that the ports in pxe conf and inetd.conf are the same
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| 12:22 | they are
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| 12:22 | <vagrantc> the lts.conf is downloaded via tftp as well, no?
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| 12:22 | <alkisg> vagrantc: sure, I left that out intentionally to not get m4xx confused :D
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| 12:22 | <m4xx> any idea why i would receive that error then it goes away after i reboot the client?
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| 12:22 | <alkisg> What's the *exact* error message on the client?
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| 12:23 | <m4xx> error: failed to connect to the ndb server
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| 12:23 | and drops to a shell
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| 12:23 | <alkisg> Then it's an nbd server problem
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| 12:23 | Are you using nbd or nfs? I thought you were using debian...
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| 12:23 | <m4xx> debian
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| 12:24 | <alkisg> By default it uses nfs
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| 12:24 | Did you intentionally switch it to nbd?
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| 12:24 | <m4xx> i didn't change it to use nbd
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| 12:24 | <vagrantc> what did you change?
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| 12:24 | <m4xx> i installed nxserver
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| 12:24 | *freenx
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| 12:41 | <m4xx> yes
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| 12:41 | i followed the wiki
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| 12:41 | <vagrantc> should've pulled in the nfs-kernel-server dependency
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| 12:42 | dpkg -l 'ltsp*' nfs-kernel-server
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| 12:42 | which wiki?
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| 12:44 | <m4xx> error: /script/nfs-bottom/ltsp: line 47: cant create /root/etc/hostname: read-only filesystem
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| 12:45 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 12:46 | i followed everything after Installing on top of an already running desktop system
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| 12:48 | <vagrantc> m4xx: if you're using debian, you might consider following documentationm for debian :P
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| 12:49 | !debian
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| 12:49 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "debian" :: is a GNU/Linux based operating system that makes an excellent LTSP server. You can find it at http://www.debian.org. for information about LTSP on debian see http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
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| 12:50 | * Gadi appreciates vagrantc's marketing | |
| 12:50 | <Gadi> :)
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| 12:51 | <alkisg> How much RAM did LTSP 4 need? Did it work with 16 MB? With 32?
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| 12:52 | <vagrantc> alkisg: 16MB, it hink
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| 12:52 | <m4xx> i'm using ubuntu
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| 12:52 | 10.04 server
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| 12:52 | sorry, it was wrong of me to say yes when you asked if i was using debian
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| 12:52 | * vagrantc sighs and smiles | |
| 12:52 | <alkisg> Cooool, I think I'll try to set it up some time
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| 12:52 | <vagrantc> Gadi: what market?
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| 12:52 | alkisg: plan to become an expert retroactively?
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| 12:53 | <alkisg> Nah, just to reuse some labs with 32 MB RAM that we have
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| 12:53 | A wubi disk in their windows 95 installations => bam, instant ltsp clients :P
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| 12:54 | Erm. Never mind the wubi thing.
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| 12:54 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 12:57 | <m4xx> so eh
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| 12:57 | any ideas on how i can keep from getting this error?
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| 12:58 | <alkisg> m4xx: do you constantly get that error, or only some times?
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| 12:59 | <m4xx_work> even changed the location ie taking off one desk and putting it at another with an already working client
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| 12:59 | did you get my previous 2 messages?
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| 12:59 | <m4xx> yesterday we had a single client that it would happen to
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| 12:59 | <m4xx> no matter what
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| 12:59 | <alkisg> No, last think I have is:
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| 12:59 | (09:57:55 PM) m4xx: any ideas on how i can keep from getting this error?
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| 12:59 | (09:58:20 PM) alkisg: m4xx: do you constantly get that error, or only some times?
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| 13:01 | <m4xx> i move the thinclient to another desk that already had a working connection as to rule out a faulty cable. that particular client continued to have the problem
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| 13:01 | <alkisg> And that client worked before?
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| 13:01 | <m4xx> yes
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| 13:01 | <alkisg> And when did it stop working? After some update?
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| 13:02 | <m4xx> only security updates
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| 13:02 | they are both the same make/model thinclients though
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| 13:02 | <alkisg> It stopped working after a security update?
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| 13:02 | <m4xx> no
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| 13:02 | <alkisg> When did it stop working?
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| 13:02 | (how)
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| 13:03 | <m4xx> yesterday
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| 13:03 | afaik
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| 13:03 | that's when it was reported to me
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| 13:03 | <alkisg> Was that after you run ltsp-update-image / ltsp-update-kernels?
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| 13:04 | Or it just stopped working, without you modifying the chroot?
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| 13:05 | <m4xx> stoped working with out midifying the chroot
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| 13:05 | *modifying even
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| 13:05 | <alkisg> OK. Can you try some commands on busybox?
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| 13:07 | nbd-client 1.2.3.4 2000 /dev/nbd0
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| 13:07 | where 1.2.3.4 == server ip
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| 13:10 | <m4xx> grr why do i keep droppin
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| 13:11 | ctrl+alt+fx to a shell to do that?
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| 13:12 | alkisg ?
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| 13:14 | <vagrantc> on the client where it's failing
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| 13:16 | <m4xx> i cant regularly reproduce the error. had them bring it back here and i tested it. it happened once but after a power cycle it seemed to work.
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| 13:21 | <alkisg> m4xx: then it might be an udev related issue, where nbd-client is called before the NIC is initialized
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| 13:21 | We added some code to ltsp_nbd to try more times if the card is not initialized
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| 13:21 | If you see it happen again try the commands above
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| 13:23 | <m4xx> will do
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| 13:23 | thank you sir
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| 13:44 | <pingpangqui> hi alksig, hi Gadi and everyone else
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| 13:45 | I solved my login problem via ldm
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| 13:46 | <pingpangqui> I deleted the file .Xauthority .Xauthority-l and .Xauthority-c
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| 13:46 | and everything was nice
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| 13:47 | strange enough the -l and -c files were not created again
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| 13:48 | but will still be created when I use the old .Xauthority file
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| 13:50 | so if someone wants my old .Xauthority file for further investigation regarding the actually problem just tell me
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| 14:30 | <m4xx> alkisg awake?
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| 14:31 | Negotiation error server closed connection\n Error: failed to connect to nbd server ...
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| 14:32 | #nbd-client 192.168.1.3 2000 /dev/nbd0 \n Nbd0 unknown partition table
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| 14:37 | <markit> hi ppl :) hi alkisg, your suggestion about the dbus updaet issue with related fix saved me this morning (you quitted before I could thank you)
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| 14:38 | btw, at school one client (before the upgrade) had a problem, this time I was present even short in time to investigate. The pc "froze", not black screen, just frozzen. In your experience, what is usually due to?
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| 14:40 | (thin client with swap activated over NBD)
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