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Channel log from 2 October 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 11:45 | <dgroos> good morning/aft/eve!
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| 11:45 | <alkisg> Hey dgroos, welcome
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| 11:45 | <dgroos> @alkisg, ping
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| 11:45 | <alkisg> See private window
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| 11:58 | <alkisg> !nat
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| 11:58 | <ltsp> nat: To set up NAT in your LTSP server, set its internal IP to 192.168.67.1 and put http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/sch-scripts/trunk/view/head:/debian/sch-scripts.if-up to /etc/network/if-up.d/sch-scripts. This also takes care of flow-control issues, possibly increasing your network speed 10 times. :)
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| 12:27 | <dgroos> @alkisg, ping
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| 17:38 | <alkisg> vagrantc: hey there, did you see the message about epoptes, "build-depends on: python3 | python3-all | python3-dev | python3-all-dev which is totally unneeded and arguably also wrong."
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| 17:39 | Should I revert it to what I originally had there, i.e. python3-distutils-extra, which in turn can depend on whatever it needs?
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| 17:55 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i did not
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| 18:03 | alkisg: gah.
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| 18:04 | alkisg: it's because the launchpad list rejects certain mails
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| 18:05 | alkisg: how did you see it?
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| 18:36 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I got it two times, first because of this: bugs.debian.org/910095
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| 18:36 | and then from the launchpad list, "A message has been posted to the mailing list for your team, but this message requires your approval "
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| 18:47 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i didn't get it at all
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| 18:48 | alkisg: are you subscribed to epoptes bugs directly?
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| 18:48 | * vagrantc was relying on the list subscription, but clearly that doesn't work | |
| 19:11 | <alkisg> I think it's the old problem, that launchpad lists only allow their members to post without moderation, so they're not really appropriate for package maintainer addresses
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| 19:11 | vagrantc: I would assume that since you are in the epoptes developers team though, you'd at least get a mail prompting you to moderate the new list message
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| 19:12 | <vagrantc> alkisg: no, never got it
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| 19:12 | <alkisg> I'm not sure if I'm additionally directly subscribed to epoptes debian bugs though
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| 19:12 | <vagrantc> but did you moderate the mail trhough?
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| 19:12 | <alkisg> I did that 2 minutes ago
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| 19:12 | <vagrantc> ah
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| 19:12 | <alkisg> vagrantc: do you have access there, after you login? https://launchpad.net/~epoptes/+mailinglist-moderate
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| 19:13 | <vagrantc> alkisg: "Not allowed here"
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| 19:13 | <alkisg> Maybe it's only for the list owner, dunno
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| 19:14 | Ah, https://launchpad.net/~epoptes/+members#active => administrator vs approved
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| 19:14 | <vagrantc> seems like we should switch the maintainer address ... can set up a trivial list like with the ltsp packages
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| 19:17 | the team+PACKAGE@tracker.debian.org doesn't have an archive history, but we could subscribe epoptes@lists.launchpad.net to it...
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| 19:17 | * alkisg doesn't really care about public archives there... | |
| 19:17 | <alkisg> We don't use the mailing list for support
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| 19:18 | Btw, the only subscribers to epoptes@lists.launchpad.net are me, you and fotis
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| 19:18 | <vagrantc> unsurprising :)
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| 19:34 | alkisg: in the end, i think we still need to build-depend on python3:any or python3-all:any ... guess the -dev ones are extraneous
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| 19:34 | alkisg: since i added that in response to a lintian error
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| 19:34 | +E: epoptes source: missing-build-dependency-for-dh-addon python3 => python3:any | python3-all:any | python3-dev:any | python3-all-dev:any
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| 19:34 | <alkisg> vagrantc: how so? Isn't distutils-extra enough to pull all the dependencies it requires to run setup.py?
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| 19:34 | Ah, to silence lintian?
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| 19:35 | <vagrantc> alkisg: it works, but i think it's not future-proof
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| 19:35 | something like that
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| 19:35 | explicit vs. implicit, etc...
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| 19:35 | <elaurencio> Hello for everyone
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| 19:35 | <alkisg> Hi elaurencio
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| 19:36 | vagrantc: for example, if distutils-extra was reimplemented in ruby, we'd still need it, and we wouldn't need python
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| 19:36 | Since we don't run any python code ourselves during build, I would assume that the tool that we use would be enough to pull the dependencies it needs
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| 19:36 | <vagrantc> if python3-distutils-extra was reimplemented in ruby, i'd be worried :)
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| 19:37 | <alkisg> But sure, if lintian complains np
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| 19:37 | Hehe, true, but I guess you get my point there
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| 19:37 | <vagrantc> indeed
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| 19:37 | i think it may help with tracking transitions of various versions or something ... not fully sure of the full rationale
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| 19:38 | <elaurencio> alkisg: can you remember for my question about the local printer in fat client?? I was solved with lts.conf inside the /etc/lts.conf in the image
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| 19:39 | <alkisg> elaurencio: I think I remember it a bit... your solution is wrong, but whatever works for you :)
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| 19:40 | <elaurencio> alkisg: Today I bring here another situation, this time is about the not boot for the fat client because I update the server and the fat client image and freez in the section of set the keyboard layout
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| 19:44 | alkisg: I don't know if that is a Ubuntu kernel bug or ltps bug
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| 19:44 | <alkisg> elaurencio: what is the output of this command? sudo ltsp-info | nc termbin.com 9999
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| 19:44 | Also, try to upload a screenshot of the client hanging, e.g. with your mobile phone
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| 19:45 | <elaurencio> alkisg: Where I upload this screenshots ???
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| 19:45 | <alkisg> !screenshot
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| 19:45 | <ltsp> screenshot: to show us a screenshot, upload it to e.g. http://postimg.org and then paste the link here, e.g. http://postimg.org/image/8usr22x29/
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| 19:45 | <alkisg> Nah this doesn't work anymore
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| 19:45 | !forget screenshot
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| 19:45 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 19:46 | <elaurencio> I can send you by email if you preferd
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| 19:46 | <alkisg> !learn screenshot as to upload a screenshot use a site like https://prnt.sc/ or https://snag.gy/ and then paste the URL here
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| 19:46 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 19:46 | <alkisg> No, I might leave in a couple of minutes, it's late here
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| 19:46 | So someone else in the channel might be able to help you
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| 19:51 | <elaurencio> Okap, I try with other
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| 20:14 | <elaurencio> Hi again
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| 20:14 | I have a problem with boot of my fat client in Ubuntu 18.04
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| 20:15 | Some one help me ???
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| 20:15 | <vagrantc> you're going to have to get a lot more specific :P
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| 20:16 | <elaurencio> vagrantc: Okey, I have this situation
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| 20:17 | vagrantc: I have 2 server with ltsp in Ubuntu
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| 20:17 | vagrantc: Ubuntu 18.04
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| 20:18 | vagrantc: The first is not updated sice 2 months ago
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| 20:18 | vagrantc: and the second is updated for today
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| 20:18 | <vagrantc> elaurencio: you don't need to target me specifically, just ask the channel
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| 20:18 | <elaurencio> Sorry
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| 20:18 | ;)
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| 20:19 | The fisrt work very fine with no problem
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| 20:19 | the client of second no pass in process of boot by the section of set the keyboard layout
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| 20:22 | This is the screenshots of the client in the first server
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| 20:23 | https://prnt.sc/l1f7bb
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| 20:24 | This is the screenshots of the client in the second server
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| 20:25 | https://prnt.sc/l1f858
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| 20:25 | https://prnt.sc/l1f8ah
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| 20:26 | https://prnt.sc/l1f8ln
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| 20:27 | I only upgrade the second server and the image client using the apt upgrade command in both side and ltsp-update-image for make a new image for the clients
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| 20:29 | I don't know is that situation is a bug of Ubuntu kernel or ltps
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| 20:33 | <||cw> sounds like a corrupt nbd, or the server crashed?
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| 20:34 | server has plenty of free space?
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| 20:37 | <elaurencio> https://prntscr.com/l1fcyo
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| 20:38 | <||cw> try biuling the client again?
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| 20:38 | <elaurencio> I recreate again in virtual server all the process, with the same result
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| 20:39 | <elaurencio> But I try to create again
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| 20:39 | <||cw> and you're using the 18.04 wiki instructions?
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| 20:42 | <elaurencio> I guide by the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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| 20:43 | <||cw> that's old
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| 20:43 | !install
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| 20:43 | <ltsp> install: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu for Ubuntu, or http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation for other distributions
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| 20:56 | <elaurencio> ||cw: If I can not use the ppa aditional repositorie, that's mean I can create a ltsp image???
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| 20:56 | <||cw> not on 18.04, the default packages don't work anymore
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| 20:57 | <||cw> why can't you use the ppa?
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| 20:58 | <elaurencio> ||cw: because my proxy parent denied the access for my, I use the mirror of Ubuntu repositorie
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| 20:59 | ||cw: I install Debian 9 and the image create without problems
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| 20:59 | I think that the problem is in Ubuntu and the recently upgrade
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| 20:59 | <||cw> yeah, debian didn't just break a lot of system scripts, ubutnut did
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| 21:02 | <elaurencio> I don't know how is posibble that a simple upgrade (recommended for all Linux system in server) break all
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| 21:02 | My fault is not create a copy of local repo with I create the old images
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