IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 23 December 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:24 | <noob2> alkisg: so i took your advice and now installed virtualbox
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| 06:24 | <alkisg> and?
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| 06:24 | <noob2> are you running win2003? win2008
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| 06:26 | <alkisg> I'm not running windows...
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| 06:26 | <noob2> oh, i was under the impression that you were running win as ur guest os
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| 06:27 | my bad
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| 06:28 | <alkisg> I've tried with w2k, w2003 and with w2008, but just as a proof of concept, not in any production sites.
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| 06:30 | <noob2> oh
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| 06:30 | i see
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| 07:15 | <_UsUrPeR_> man...
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| 07:15 | morning all
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| 07:15 | alkisg: are you ldapping?
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| 07:21 | <Appiah> proof of conecpt for what alkisg ?
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| 07:58 | <alkisg> _UsUrPeR_: getting ready... :D
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| 07:58 | <_UsUrPeR_> woo!
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| 07:59 | <alkisg> Appiah: to see if LTSP works OK with win* server...
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| 07:59 | <Appiah> umm
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| 07:59 | like what? AD? DHCP?
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| 07:59 | <alkisg> Appiah: nah, like rdesktop clients
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| 07:59 | <Appiah> oh
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| 08:00 | you mean the ltsp desktop client connected to those servers
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| 08:02 | <_UsUrPeR_> screen_07 = rdesktop ? :)
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| 08:02 | alkisg: what windows version are you connecting to?
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| 08:04 | <alkisg> I tried with win 2000, 2003 and 2008
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| 08:04 | All worked fine...
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| 08:07 | <alkisg> What's a "usual" local domain to use with LDAP? I'm thinking of "dc=sch,dc=localdomain", because I've read that .local shouldn't be used because of mdns...
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| 08:11 | <Appiah> dc=mycompany,dc=local is what I use
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| 08:11 | never heard of .local problem?
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| 08:11 | <alkisg> Appiah: http://avahi.org/wiki/AvahiAndUnicastDotLocal
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| 08:11 | <Appiah> and dc=myplace,dc=se
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| 08:11 | avahi
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| 08:12 | <alkisg> Yes, it appears that .local is reserved for mdns
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| 08:12 | (zeroconf, avahi etc)
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| 08:12 | <Appiah> i c
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| 08:12 | <alkisg> E.g. if you have a dns server for .local, then iTalc autodetection won't work...
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| 08:12 | <Appiah> good thing I'm not using it in any production :D
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| 08:23 | <moldy> alkisg: i usually use a "real" domain
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| 08:24 | <alkisg> moldy: like, example.com? or your real domain name?
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| 08:24 | <moldy> my real domain name
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| 08:24 | <alkisg> I've read that this may cause problems... :(
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| 08:24 | <moldy> what kind of problems?
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| 08:25 | <alkisg> In resolving, in security etc - an article I read proposed using a subdomain of the real domain for local sites
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| 08:25 | <moldy> i havn't seen any problems so far
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| 08:25 | <alkisg> E.g. department.mycompany.com or something...
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| 08:26 | E.g. if you have an authoritative dns server locally, and a client tries to contact awebservice.mycompany.com, the dns server may not forward the request to the internet server or something like that...
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| 08:27 | <moldy> hmm
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| 08:27 | well, everything can be misconfigured ;)
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| 08:28 | <alkisg> :D I'm trying to at least make a "usual" configuration - sure, everything can brake ;)
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| 08:43 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 08:43 | stgraber: I'll have a look at the ltspfs issue.
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| 09:11 | <stgraber> sbalneav: great, Gadi found that a good part of the issue is when SERVER isn't set, ltsp_config seems to do some weird stuff in this case
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| 09:11 | involving a lot of grep/awk/sed calls
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| 09:12 | the initial idea we had is to implement some kind of caching for ltsp_config so first time it'll dump the generated environment to a file that can then be sourced for the next calls
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| 09:12 | (as currently, ltsp_config gets sourced for every block device detected + during boot time + in a lot of other scripts)
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| 12:21 | <mgariepy> good afternoon everybody :)
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| 12:22 | <sbalneav> Hello mgariepy
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| 12:29 | <mgariepy> something up for the holyday scott ?
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| 12:29 | <stgraber> hey mgariepy
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| 12:29 | how are the holidays going ?
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| 12:29 | <mgariepy> hey stephane
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| 12:30 | pretty good, i've been snow showing yesterday almost all afernoon, it was pretty nice in the wood ;)
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| 12:31 | snow-shoeing.
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| 12:31 | sorry about my bad english,
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| 12:31 | <johnny> don't apologize for bad english..
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| 12:31 | we're all bad english speakers.. :)
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| 12:31 | even the native ones..
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| 12:32 | <mgariepy> ok johnny, thanks, i can tell that my french isn't that great too ;)
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| 12:33 | <johnny> :)
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| 12:33 | <stgraber> I guess bad french is a local issue, not much to do with you ;) (ok, that's the european speaking there)
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| 12:33 | <mgariepy> yeah, i guess so.
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| 12:34 | <stgraber> anyone tried the change I made last night with something else than Ubuntu ? I'd be interested in knowing what damages I did with that.
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| 12:34 | <johnny> stgraber, ... i haven't cared to try yet until i use dracut in gentoo
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| 12:34 | when i have time to work on it again..
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| 12:35 | hmm.. btw.. whatever happened to the logo contest?
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| 12:35 | i'd like to see some graphic person to make a nice plymouth theme and ldm theme for ltsp itself..
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| 12:35 | not just the distro specific ones like in ubuntu
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| 12:36 | <johnny> stgraber, it'd be cool to have it so that any distro gets a nice theme before they can get an artist to custom for their distro
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| 12:36 | it'll also make ltsp look good by default..
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| 12:36 | <stgraber> agreed
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| 12:37 | I'm quite lucky I have good designers available for Ubuntu artwork but having some good upstream artwork would be great too
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| 12:38 | <sbalneav> My drawing skills make xkcd look like freakin' picasso.
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| 12:38 | <johnny> me too..
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| 12:38 | <stgraber> hehe :)
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| 12:38 | <johnny> luckily nobody pays you to do that
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| 12:38 | <sbalneav> Nope.
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| 12:38 | <johnny> so.. what happeened to the logo contest sbalneav ?
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| 12:38 | did something win?
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| 12:38 | <sbalneav> We have a logo
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| 12:38 | <johnny> ah
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| 12:39 | <sbalneav> hold on
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| 12:39 | http://www.ltsp.org/
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| 12:39 | yep, top left
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| 12:39 | <johnny> ok.. so now we need somebody to fix up that ltsp default theme..
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| 12:39 | <sbalneav> the X that looks like it's made out of a couple of bent ribbons
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| 12:39 | <johnny> and do a plymouth one..
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| 12:40 | <sbalneav> plymouth?
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| 12:40 | <johnny> where those ribbons move or somethin..
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| 12:40 | <sbalneav> As in Charger?
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| 12:40 | <johnny> charge is a plymouth theme ..
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| 12:40 | it's the bootsplash thing in fedora, and now ubuntu lucid
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| 12:40 | <sbalneav> ah
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| 12:40 | <johnny> also mandrake i think..
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| 12:40 | <mgariepy> who is maintaining the website btw ?
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| 12:40 | <johnny> and hopefully some day gentoo
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| 12:40 | <sbalneav> mgariepy: jammcq
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| 12:40 | <johnny> gentoo still seems to be clinging to their current initramfs thing that sucks.. :(
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| 12:41 | altho some gentoo patches have gone into dracut
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| 12:41 | <mgariepy> clicking on the logo almost give a 404, ""An error has been encountered in accessing this page. ""
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| 12:41 | <stgraber> yeah, we had to move to mediawiki for some reason ... lots of links are currently broken
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| 12:41 | <mgariepy> kk
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| 12:42 | this explain a lot then :)
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| 12:42 | <sbalneav> The old wiki got, err, compromised.
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| 12:42 | <johnny> rewrite the urls?
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| 12:42 | <stgraber> We also have someone at RL looking at new website for LTSP+LTSP-Cluster, we'll start with making a rocking one for LTSP-Cluster, try a few wiki modules and if we get good successes there we'll propose it for LTSP in general
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| 12:42 | (we have some external funding for that so it's great to have time to invest in finding a solution so the website gets a bit more attractive and more "web 2.0")
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| 12:45 | <stgraber> I don't want RL to appear as the company who wants to takeover the website (or something like that ;)) so doing it with LTSP-Cluster as part of that funding while keeping in mind we may want to use it for LTSP itself seems to make sense
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| 14:18 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: ping?
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| 14:19 | <sbalneav> _UsUrPeR_: pong
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| 14:19 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: Y HLO THUR. Mind if I ask about any changes that are going to be made to future sabayon versions?
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| 14:19 | <sbalneav> Sure.
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| 14:20 | We've added group apply,
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| 14:20 | manual's been added
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| 14:20 | <johnny> is xephyr default now on ubuntu ?
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| 14:20 | or does it still use xnest?
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| 14:20 | <sbalneav> I need to fix up the "changes" menu to make things default to mandatory
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| 14:21 | Last night I submitted the OpenOffice.org lockdown patch to Pessulus
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| 14:21 | I've recently changed the layout of conffiles to /etc/sabayon and /eyc/sabayon/profiles
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| 14:21 | <johnny> considered making a preferences option to set various paths to ignore via gui?
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| 14:22 | <sbalneav> Nope, no one's filed it as a feature request, add it to the bugtracker.
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| 14:22 | <johnny> is it that useful? that is the question
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| 14:22 | or is there a better way?
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| 14:22 | <sbalneav> sure, seems like it might be.
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| 14:22 | <johnny> of course.. if more apps used xdg dirs.. it wouldn't be so difficult..
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| 14:22 | <sbalneav> right.
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| 14:23 | <johnny> i wonder if the distro packages might want to have some custom setting in the desktop file for certain apps
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| 14:23 | <sbalneav> _UsUrPeR_: none of these have been released yet, it's all going on in the git repo
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| 14:23 | <johnny> sabayon is having to do too much that the OS should be doing imo
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| 14:23 | <sbalneav> I'm hoping to have another release soon, which I'll put in my repo.
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| 14:23 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: I understand. I am excited about the manual :)
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| 14:23 | <johnny> but most of it isn't standard..
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| 14:23 | <sbalneav> the one with the manual's in my repo
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| 14:23 | that's the frozen monday release.
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| 14:24 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: In previous versions, when applying a scheme to a user, the only way to reset or change to another scheme was to delete a few user files. Has that changed?
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| 14:25 | <sbalneav> Not yet, that's my next bug to fix.
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| 14:25 | <_UsUrPeR_> woop :)
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| 14:25 | <sbalneav> Everything's defaulting to "default" instead of "mandatory"
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| 14:25 | which is the behaviour that most people expect.
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| 14:27 | <sbalneav> _UsUrPeR_: That answer your question?
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| 14:27 | Or did you have others?
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| 14:27 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: no, I'm good. thank you
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| 14:27 | <sbalneav> johnny: sorry, yes, uses Xephyr
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| 14:29 | <mgariepy> cya guys,
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| 14:40 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi: ping?
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| 19:34 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 21:10 | <sbalneav> Well, lets see if we can get the "mandatory/default" confusion sorted in Sabayon.
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