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Channel log from 4 February 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:25 | <ltspuser_73> Hi, nice to join LTSP irc channel.
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| 04:27 | How can I enable local bluetooth, especially bluetooth head set?
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| 05:51 | <ajith> gi Chan
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| 05:51 | gi
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| 05:51 | hi
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| 05:51 | Chan
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| 05:51 | II am facing problem with ltsp
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| 05:52 | client getting an error msg nfs mount need a path
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| 06:32 | <alkisg> ajith: distro/version?
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| 06:53 | <ajith> distro
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| 06:53 | ya
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| 06:54 | alkisg it is distro
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| 06:54 | I am trying this for ltsp lcuster
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| 06:54 | but actually client not getting any home dirs
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| 06:56 | <alkisg> Sorry, I've never used ltsp-cluster
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| 10:35 | <meamy> hi to all. Anyone how as experience with the REMOTE_APPS_MENU_ITEMS value? it does not work for me and unfortunately it is not documented at all (ore I'm to dump to find the documentation). There seems to be a bug in the LTSP.genmenu
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| 10:35 | ähm /usr/bin/ltsp-genmenu scripte
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| 10:46 | <work_alkisg> meamy: what's the output of `getltscfg -a` locally on the client? Put that to pastebin
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| 10:52 | <meamy> alkisg its a fat client in an cluster environment http://pastebin.com/8mJ3Zqek
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| 10:53 | <alkisg> meamy: remove the space after the comma
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| 10:54 | REMOTE_APPS_MENU_ITEMS="thunderbird,debian-xterm"
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| 10:54 | Reboot the client to get the new lts.conf, and let's see where the script stops
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| 11:03 | <meamy> does still not work i added some logger messages to my ltsp-genmenu script http://pastebin.com/eDGFhWxD some how he does not find the .desktop files
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| 11:09 | <alkisg> meamy: what's the output of getltscfg -a after the change you did?
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| 11:09 | <meamy> but the TMP_SHARE Dir is mountet correctly (its done by the /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/X02-genmenu) testet that already so i see no reason why the script does not finde the .desktop files
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| 11:09 | <alkisg> I still see a space in the logger output
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| 11:09 | You need this: (12:54:09 μμ) alkisg: REMOTE_APPS_MENU_ITEMS="thunderbird,debian-xterm"
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| 11:10 | Feb 4 11:56:29 ltsp10903 logger: thunderbird debian-xterm
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| 11:10 | <meamy> the space is gone in getltscfg-cluster -a
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| 11:12 | pastebin.com/Gk4Mtj5m
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| 11:12 | <alkisg> logger "i = ${i}"
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| 11:12 | Put that two lines above, before the if
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| 11:13 | And also
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| 11:13 | put this there: ls "${TMP_SHARE}/applications" > /tmp/ls.out
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| 11:13 | And pastebin the output of /tmp/ls.out too afterwards
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| 11:14 | Hmm
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| 11:15 | meamy: I think TMP_SHARE isn't exported
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| 11:15 | x02-genmenu:
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| 11:15 | TMP_SHARE="$(mktemp -d /tmp/share-XXXXXX)"
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| 11:15 | change that to: export TMP_SHARE="$(mktemp -d /tmp/share-XXXXXX)"
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| 11:15 | And see if it helps
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| 11:16 | <meamy> mm that could be true my former check if TMP_SHARE is mountet was in X02-genmenu
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| 11:27 | <meamy> alkisg still not working pastebin.com/21gjmuWv there is a "/" added some where
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| 11:31 | <alkisg> I think the problem is that the code is broken :D
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| 11:32 | local_dektop = /tmp/ltsp-remoteapps-hannes-PCTDOy/applications//tmp/share-PbIu04/applications/debian-xterm.desktop
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| 11:32 | There are 2 tmp dirs in that line
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| 11:34 | Line 78:
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| 11:34 | local_desktop=${TMP_XDG_DIR_LOCAL}/applications/${desktop##/usr/share/applications/}
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| 11:34 | That should instead read something like:
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| 11:35 | local_desktop=${TMP_XDG_DIR_LOCAL}/applications/${desktop##$TMP_SHARE}
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| 11:36 | * alkisg doesn't like the whole implementation though... it'd be much much easier to just modify /usr/share/applications/* directly | |
| 11:37 | <meamy> yeah true. the hole generate-remote() function is just copy and paste from the generate-local() function. ok i try that (or maybe i just rewrite the hole function )
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| 11:37 | <alkisg> meamy: so, you might want to file a bug about it, and just use a sed line in your RCFILE_0x lts.conf lines
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| 11:37 | RCFILE_0x="sed 's/^Exec=...//' -i file.desktop" etc
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| 11:39 | !ltsp-bug
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| 11:39 | <ltsp> ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 11:40 | <alkisg> meamy: see an example here: http://www.epoptes.org/documentation/fat-clients
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| 11:42 | <meamy> alkisg yep i will do that, I think they dont modify /usr/share/applications/ because it could be that the request programm is not installed on the FAT client chroot just on the appserver
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| 11:42 | alkisg thanks for the helb
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| 11:44 | <work_alkisg> It would be copied from the server, np there... you're welcome, bbl
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| 15:16 | <sbalneav> Aaaaaaaaand I'm back :)
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| 15:17 | <ogra> !s
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| 15:17 | <ltsp> s: Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 15:17 | <ogra> :)
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| 15:17 | <sbalneav> heh
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| 15:48 | <Hyperbyte> Hey everyone!
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| 15:52 | <jammcq> hey
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| 15:56 | <dead_inside> morning
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| 16:31 | <stgraber> hey sbalneav!
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| 16:31 | <jammcq> sbalneav: ?
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| 16:31 | I see him logged in
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| 16:32 | but... his first day back to work in 2 weeks, he's prolly plenty busy
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| 16:35 | <ltspuser_14> hi
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| 16:35 | i have a problem with usb-sticks on thinclients
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| 16:35 | can someone help me?
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| 16:36 | <alkisg> What problem?
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| 16:36 | (Hi Scotty!)
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| 16:36 | <ltspuser_14> sticks on server will be mountet but no aktion if i put a stick in the client
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| 16:36 | <alkisg> !release
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| 16:36 | <ltsp> release: please mention the linux distro and release you're using :)
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| 16:37 | <knipwim> alkisg: we should really have an ltsp-info option for that :)
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| 16:37 | <alkisg> +1 :)
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| 16:37 | <knipwim> all the info on one line
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| 16:37 | <alkisg> Or an `ltsp-info -pastebin` switch
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| 16:38 | <knipwim> i was wondering
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| 16:38 | did you discuss the translate function stuff with vagrant?
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| 16:38 | <ltspuser_14> server information: No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (wheezy) Release: testing Codename: wheezy server packages: un ldm <keine> ii ldm-server 2:2.2.11-2 un ltsp-client-core <keine> un ltsp-docs <keine> ii ltsp-server 5.4.2-5 ii ltsp-server-standalone 5.4.2-5 un ltsp-utils <keine> ii ltspfs 1.1-2 ii ltspfsd 1.1-2 ii ltspfsd-core 1.1-2 packages in chroot: /op
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| 16:38 | <alkisg> We did discuss about it once
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| 16:38 | knipwim: let's check the irclogs in a bit
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| 16:39 | ltspuser_14: so, debian wheezy, but which DE? Thin or fat clients?
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| 16:39 | The info you pasted here was cut in half because it was too big
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| 16:40 | !pastebin
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| 16:40 | <ltsp> pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 16:41 | <ltspuser_14> alkisg: i dont know how can i see it?
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| 16:45 | does i need a rule in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/udev/rules.d?
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| 16:48 | <alkisg> Are you using gnome, lxde, xfce...?
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| 16:49 | The rule should be there, you shouldn't have to put it manually
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| 16:49 | <ltspuser_14> kde?!
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> !screen_08
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| 17:01 | <ltsp> screen_08: To get a root shell on a Debian thin client, put SCREEN_07=ldm, SCREEN_08=shell and SCREEN_DEFAULT=07 to lts.conf.
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> So, you're using KDE with thin clients? Follow the instructions for screen_08 ^,
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| 17:02 | and then after you insert the stick, run `mount` and paste the results here
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| 17:10 | <alkisg> knipwim: http://irclogs.ltsp.org/?d=2013-01-18
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| 17:10 | <alkisg> 17:49 onwards
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| 17:30 | <knipwim> alkisg: what i see as conclusion is the following:
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| 17:30 | change all the `eval_gettext` to $(_ "text %s" "$var")
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| 17:33 | <alkisg> knipwim: right, and also vagrantc will do the necessary makefile changes, and what's left is to make a wrapping function for the usage functions
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| 17:33 | (or something equivalent there)
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| 17:35 | <knipwim> so, do we have a plan? start immediately, or tag first and then go
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| 17:36 | and first turn of the autosync for translations :)
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| 17:37 | <alkisg> knipwim: let's check what we can do with multiline messages like usage functions first
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| 17:37 | * alkisg is testing with ltsp-chroot... | |
| 17:39 | <knipwim> that probably won't work, it needs the indenting spaces
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| 17:40 | or we have to make an automatic break for such cases
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| 17:40 | <alkisg> knipwim: here's the simple scenario: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1609806/
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| 17:40 | <knipwim> break at x lines, and indent after
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| 17:40 | <alkisg> Yeah that was the second scenario, the formatting function
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| 17:40 | There's a coreutils utility for wrapping, let me find which one it was...
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| 17:41 | <knipwim> hmm, i guess the most simple on will work
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| 17:42 | <alkisg> fmt
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| 17:42 | We could check if /usr/bin/fmt exists, and use it if available
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| 17:43 | If not, we just produce output that is translated but not indented... it's not so bad
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| 17:44 | <knipwim> ltsp-update-image --help :)
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| 17:44 | <alkisg> echo 'Temporarily remove user accounts, logs, caches etc from the chroot before exporting the image. The chroot arch is required to be compatible with the server arch.' | fmt -w 45
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| 17:45 | Btw is there any installation that doesn't have `fmt`?
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| 17:46 | And btw #2, do we have any other multiline messages except for usage functions?
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| 17:49 | knipwim: I think that we could rewrite the ltsp-update-image usage() function a bit differently so that we don't have any multiline messages at all, making all the wrapping talk irrelevant :D
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| 17:49 | <knipwim> on gentoo it's part of coreutils
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| 17:49 | also update-sshkeys
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| 17:49 | and probably others
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| 17:49 | but sure
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| 17:49 | we have to expand the help2man includes
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| 17:52 | * knipwim is looking at the trunk and thinking about tagging a release for gentoo first | |
| 17:53 | <alkisg> knipwim: I want to ship a version for greek schools with the nvidia bug and the sshfs bug fixed
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| 17:53 | So yeah let's wait until I commit 2 fixes, and you tag a new release, before we start doing the translations
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| 17:53 | I'm guessing I'll do those within 3-4 days
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| 17:53 | Sounds ok?
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| 17:54 | <knipwim> sure
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| 17:54 | i'm in no real hurry for the translations
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| 17:55 | have a few things to test before i tag anyway
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| 18:18 | <ltspuser_14> alkisg: "ltspfs on /media/USER/USB20FD type fuse.ltspfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000)" but if i cd to it i have no access
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| 18:27 | <alkisg> ltspuser_14: that's normal, you need to `su` to the user to have access
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| 18:27 | ltspuser_14: and what's the output `mount` on the server at that point?
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| 18:28 | *of
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| 18:28 | <ltspuser_14> i make su and also no access
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| 18:29 | ls -la: d????????? ? ? ? ? ? USB20FD
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| 18:30 | server output mount: ltspfs on /media/dokware/USB20FD type fuse.ltspfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000)
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| 18:30 | <alkisg> ltspuser_14: `su - user`, not plain su
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| 18:31 | So it's mounted fine, can't the user navigate to /media/dokware/USB20FD on the server?
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| 18:33 | <ltspuser_14> alkisg: i sorry yes it works the user can navigate to
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| 18:34 | alkisg: but there is no info if an stick is put in, who can i do this?
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| 18:35 | <alkisg> ltspuser_14: the problem there is that no LTSP developer is using KDE, so some of the users need to send patches to get desktop icons or notifications when usb sticks are inserted etc
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| 18:36 | <ltspuser_14> ok, but it works thanks!
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| 20:31 | <gp> Can anyone help me get started? I've gotten my network setup for PXE booting and my tftp server seems to be working. My thin client shows the Ubuntu 12.04 loading screen with the 4 dots for a little while. Then it throws some text errors and leaves me at a prompt.
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| 20:31 | There are several errors about mounting the file system with difference paths and it says no such file or directory
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| 20:31 | Then it says target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init-ltsp
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| 20:31 | I am using ubuntu
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| 20:31 | 12.04
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| 20:32 | <alkisg> !quiet-splash
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| 20:32 | <ltsp> quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
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| 20:32 | <gp> ty
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| 20:40 | <gp> So I am getting the nbd socket failed connection refused error mentioned here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 20:40 | However, the root is set to nbdroot=:ltsp_amd64, not an ip address/port
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| 20:46 | <vagrantc> gp: are you using ipppend?
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| 20:48 | <alkisg> Also pasting your kernel command line would be useful, cat /proc/cmdline from the initramfs shell
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| 20:48 | 'night all
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| 20:48 | * vagrantc waves to alkisg | |
| 20:48 | <gp> Thank you alkisg
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| 20:49 | <gp> vagrantc: I am not sure what ipppend is.
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| 20:51 | I followed the "installing on top of an already running system" here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 20:51 | Then here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 20:51 | I am new to LTSP
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| 20:53 | Oh
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| 20:54 | Yes, I added IPAPPEND 3 to the default file
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| 20:54 | err I think that is my problem
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| 20:55 | I thought I did but I missed adding it to the amd64 one and did i386 by accident
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| 20:56 | awesome. that got me up and running
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| 21:04 | <vagrantc> gp: er, ipappend
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| 21:05 | <gp> vagrantc: thanks that worked for me. I thought I had added it, but I didnt
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| 21:05 | <vagrantc> those directions seem to do it in a way that will get overridden when you run ltsp-update-kernels
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| 21:05 | so maybe you re-ran ltsp-update-kernels
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| 21:05 | <gp> maybe so
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| 21:05 | Is there a better way?
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| 21:29 | <gp> How do I set my clients to auto login as guest?
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| 21:29 | Is that an ltsp option or an os option?
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| 21:33 | <gp> Well I found some documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AutoLoginFeatures
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| 21:33 | LTSP seems pretty awesome so far
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| 21:42 | Is there a list of k/v pair options for the lts.conf file?
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| 22:15 | <vagrantc> !lts.conf
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| 22:15 | <ltsp> lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 22:16 | <vagrantc> gp: ^^
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| 22:16 | gp: also available in the ltsp-docs package
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| 22:28 | <gp> whoops. Thanks. I searched for it but didn't find it.
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| 22:53 | vagrantc: You mentioned that those directions configured the client in a way that gets overriden easily. Is there a more permanent way to configure?
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| 23:08 | <vagrantc> gp: editing (or creating) /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf to use IPAPPEND=3
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| 23:10 | <gp> vagrantc: thank you.
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