IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 22 November 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:38 | <David___> Hello, anyone around with ltsp skills atm?
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| 00:47 | anything like this around?
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| 00:47 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 00:47 | 14.04.1 does not have a alternative iso with that feature:(
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| 00:56 | <vagrantc> you're just looking for help installing LTSP ?
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| 00:57 | David___: you might want to try ltsp-pnp:
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| 00:57 | !ltsp-pnp | echo David___
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| 00:57 | <ltsp`> David___ ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 00:57 | <vagrantc> it's certainly the simplest way to set up an LTSP environment
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| 01:01 | <David___> I have a server with 2 nics
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| 01:01 | one goes to router one to the gigabit switch for the thin/fat clients
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| 01:02 | the one problem i have is the server is a rack mount and its onboard gpu is only 16mb other than that it's specs are rather good.
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| 01:02 | but i need to to be headless
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| 01:02 | <vagrantc> onboard GPU for the server is irrelevent
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| 01:03 | it uses the client's GPU
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| 01:03 | <David___> yes, i mean as in when i follow the guides on net, they all seem to be gui based.
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| 01:03 | <vagrantc> ah, for doing ltsp-pnp ... yes.
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| 01:04 | basically, you just need ltsp-server, ldm-server and a desktop environment installed
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| 01:04 | then you can run "ltsp-build-client" to build the client environment
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| 01:05 | you may want to install ltsp-server-standalone as well ... depends on your setup
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| 01:05 | <David___> well atm server needs re-install
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| 01:05 | my attempts at ltsp just borked it
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| 01:06 | getting rather frustrated with it:(
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| 01:06 | its the only thing i have encountered that seems to make my brain fart so far.
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| 01:07 | do you know of a step by step guide that is upto date for it?
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| 01:07 | (headless with 2 nics)
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| 01:07 | ?
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| 01:12 | <vagrantc> i don't know about guides for ubuntu
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| 01:12 | !ubuntu
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| 01:12 | <ltsp`> ubuntu: a Debian based GNU/Linux distrubution that includes a Ubuntu specific version of LTSP. It can be found at http://www.ubuntulinux.org. to install ltsp on ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 01:13 | <vagrantc> David___: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall has a section "Installing on top of an already running desktop system" with instructions
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| 01:14 | David___: that really should be all that's needed.
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| 01:14 | David___: but you'll need to adjust dhcpd.conf appropriate to your network
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| 01:15 | <David___> Yea I think i must have been doing something wierd with that
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| 01:22 | if i was to install 12.04 and just run its normal updates, would it patch the security problems such as heartbleed and shellshock
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| 01:22 | or would it be borken.
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| 01:29 | <vagrantc> it had better include security updates! :)
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| 01:29 | but you'll also need to update the LTSP environment
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| 01:29 | why 12.04 ?
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| 01:29 | <David___> it apparently is the last "alternative" release
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| 01:30 | ie after that there is no "alternative" iso one cn download
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| 01:30 | on those one hits f4 then selects "ltsp install"
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| 01:30 | <vagrantc> it's really not hard to install manually
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| 01:30 | <David___> i dunno what i am doing wrong but i just cant get the dang thing to work
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| 01:30 | i install 14.04
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| 01:30 | <vagrantc> two commands, editing dhcpd.conf ... there's nothing there the installer CD will get you that you wouldn't have to fix anyways
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| 01:31 | so if editing dhcpd.conf is what's blocking you, it's going to be the same problem installing directy from CD
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| 01:31 | David___: what exactly is the problem?
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| 01:32 | no sense recommending a universal solution to an unknown problem
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| 01:32 | <David___> thats partly my issue its just not working... okey probably part of issue being its 1:32am and im stressed:)
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| 01:32 | im rebooting the server with a 14.04 lts 64bit in the dvd drive
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| 01:33 | going to clean install it and try again
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| 01:33 | if i have done somethig silly i might never find it otherwise
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| 01:34 | and thanks for your help so far vagrant, sorry for my derpiness.
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| 01:35 | oh and for some reason the nics are detected as p4p1 and p5p1 not eth0 etc
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| 01:35 | :)
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| 01:36 | ok its at 33% formatting.
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| 01:36 | and now 8% on the install part
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| 01:37 | once that is done i need to set a static ip of 192.168.1.51 to the p4p1 nic
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| 01:37 | and then where i go wrong is getting ltsp to run on the p5p1 interface:(
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| 01:44 | <vagrantc> and unfortunately, i've gotta run...
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| 01:44 | David___: good luck!
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| 01:44 | <David___> thanks i need it:)
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| 01:46 | * vagrantc wave | |
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| 03:35 | <vasanth> helolo anybody there??
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| 03:38 | can anyone please send me the configuration document on how to configure LTSP server for thick and thin client environment?
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| 04:16 | hello
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| 06:51 | <vasanth> can anyone please send me the configuration document on how to configure LTSP server for thick and thin client environment?
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| 06:55 | <vagrantc> !docs
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| 06:55 | <ltsp`> docs: (#1) For the latest community documentation, see the LTSP wiki at http://wiki.ltsp.org/, or (#2) For a PDF with official documentation, install the ltsp-docs package.
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| 06:55 | <vagrantc> vasanth: ^^
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| 06:55 | i'd also recommend the ltsp-pnp method:
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| 06:55 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 06:55 | <ltsp`> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 06:56 | <vagrantc> vasanth: good luck!
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| 06:56 | someone also recently updated the documentation on using ltsp-pnp on Debian...
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| 06:57 | https://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
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| 06:57 | !debian
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| 06:57 | <ltsp`> debian: is a GNU/Linux based operating system that makes an excellent LTSP server. You can find it at http://www.debian.org. for information about LTSP on debian see http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
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| 07:07 | <vasanth> Thank you
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| 07:12 | <Fenuks> Hello. Anyone tried running LTSP server as virtual server under QEMU/KVM?
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| 07:21 | <vagrantc> all the time
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| 07:22 | do that more often than on bare metal, in fact :)
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| 08:17 | <vasanth> Hi alkisg
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| 08:17 | Any suggestion for backup for LTSP server??
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| 08:18 | <muppis> Bacula
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| 08:19 | <Fenuks> what to backup, by the way?
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| 08:20 | <vasanth> i want to backup my server full
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| 08:21 | If i restore it then all configurations,files and permissions should be apply
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| 08:24 | Any idea?/
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| 08:24 | <muppis> Bacula :D
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| 08:24 | <vasanth> but i will take my backup locally and will copy it to my external device
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| 08:25 | Will bacula take the whole file system with configuration and all softwares ?/
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| 08:25 | <muppis> Yes.
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| 08:25 | <vasanth> Files permission?/
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| 08:25 | <muppis> Yes.
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| 08:25 | <vasanth> then super thank you so much
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| 08:25 | <Fenuks> assuming you can set it up — not a trivial task (=
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| 08:25 | <vasanth> means?/
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| 08:26 | <muppis> Basic setup is good enough commented to run in one system.
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| 08:26 | <vasanth> ok ok
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| 08:26 | <Fenuks> muppis: not very good to use it, though, unless you have infinite space
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| 08:27 | <muppis> Fenuks, it depends how much data and how long you want keep backups.
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| 08:27 | <vasanth> Even i want to take backup of my /,LVM partition
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| 08:27 | <Fenuks> vasanth: you want files backed up or partitions?
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| 08:27 | <vasanth> which is better??
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| 08:28 | <muppis> I use bacula in 3 different size setups. From 2 machine system to 40 machines, including virtuals backed up from LVM.
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| 08:29 | <Fenuks> vasanth: it depends on what you want — unless you want to backup MBR, files should be enough
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| 08:29 | <vasanth> oh
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| 08:30 | <Fenuks> although if you're backing up VMs, you should probably backup their disks
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| 08:31 | <vasanth> The ultimate requirement of mine is of taking back up is to restore the files and configurations exactly in the same location and the permission applied for the files should be applied as exactly even i restore it in a new harddisk
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| 08:33 | <muppis> Bacula has one big flaw, but it can be goodness as well. It doesn't care about mountings. So if you need make a bare metal restore, you need take care from partitions and mountings by your self.
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| 08:35 | So if you want eaxct same, you need to remember that. If not, you can re-arrange everything.
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| 08:37 | <vasanth> what do you think about clonezilla??
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| 08:37 | <Fenuks> wrapper around dd?
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| 08:39 | <vasanth> Is it good?/
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| 08:39 | <muppis> Nope. Backups empty space as well.
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| 08:40 | <Fenuks> It's a cloning tool, not backup as it is
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| 08:43 | <vasanth> if i use another hardisk for cloning with the same space....i can replicate the cloning harddisk if my actual is getting into problem right??
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| 08:43 | <Fenuks> vasanth: yes
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| 08:45 | If your source hdd has no unreadable sectors
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| 08:49 | <vasanth> Can u please send me a link for configuring bacula for my ubuntu 12.04 alternate
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| 09:00 | <vasanth> Can anybody have idea about how long will take for bacula to backup a full filesystem??
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| 09:03 | <muppis> Just install it and read configuration files, you should get idea from there.
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| 09:05 | It really is simple in one system. You still need all three packages, bacula-dir, bacula-fd and bacula-sd. Only director need database, but it sets it up itself.
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| 09:06 | If you want more, http://www.bacula.org/ is the place.
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| 09:08 | Director is one who handles jobs, File daemon is one which gives the data and Storage daemon is the one who stores it.
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| 09:10 | In same machine backup, remember exclude the directory where sd stores backups or you end up endless loop which causes full disk and useless backup at end.
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| 09:12 | And in LTSP server there's no need to backup client images (in /opt/ltsp/images), because those are quickly rebuild and thus just eats up space from storage.
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| 09:12 | <vasanth> ok
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| 09:15 | And i want some details about RAM
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| 09:16 | i have 8GB of RAM in my LTSP server and 10 users logged in...My Server starts eating Swap memory....Wat should i do now??
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| 09:16 | i need o update RAM ??
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| 09:17 | <Fenuks> vasanth: yes
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