IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 29 August 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:03 | <ehuang> Hi everyone. I'm trying to run LTSP on CentOS and I'm having trouble logging in on the thin client; I'm not exactly sure what is wrong, but I'm also lost on how to diagnose the problem.
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| 01:05 | <ehuang> I have an image showing up on the thin client, with the whole login prompt (including a 'Login as Guest' button), but every time I try to login, either verifying password or unable to connect error appears, and the login pops back up
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| 01:53 | <bennabiy> ehuang: there are not many of us who run centos and ltsp, so support might be a bit lacking, and I have not seen the one who supports the codebase for centos in about a year
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| 02:01 | ehuang: you can enable a shell on the client and then try to view the logs, see how far it gets
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| 02:55 | <bennabiy> vagrantc, alkisg: confirmed that --exclude software-properties-gtk fixes the build
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| 02:55 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: in the debootstrap phase?
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| 02:55 | <bennabiy> I am doing a final test, and then going to push a merge
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| 02:56 | I think so
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| 02:56 | <vagrantc> that seems absurd ... what on earth is ubuntu/mint pulling in in the debootstrap phase?
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| 02:56 | debootstrap shouldn't ever pull in anything gtk based
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| 02:57 | unless you've configured it to do crazy things
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| 02:57 | * vagrantc is apparently biased | |
| 02:58 | <bennabiy> I have tested building a chroot using i386 and amd64 and they both built successfully
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| 02:58 | so I updated 001-set-mint-dist to add EXCLUDE="software-properties-gtk" under the if [ -n "$MINT_DIST" ]; then
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| 02:58 | It is because most of the changes that make mint what it is, are graphical. So a mint chroot pulls in a few more packages than usual, but it is closer to home
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| 02:59 | I guess if I wanted to just hand pick the hundred or so packages.. (slight exaggeration) then I could specify them all.. but I am pulling mint-meta-core which pulls the rough needs to qualify as mint and not ubuntu
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| 03:00 | It is actually trying to pull those in at the late mirror stage
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| 03:00 | but I need to make sure it is not included with anything early, middle or late
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| 03:03 | !learn mint17 as Simple fix for ltsp-build-client... add "--exclude software-properties-gtk" (without the quotes) to your normal ltsp-build-client command
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| 03:03 | <ltsp`> The operation succeeded.
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| 03:03 | <bennabiy> !mint17
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| 03:03 | <ltsp`> mint17: (#1) For thin clients - #ltsp-build-client --dist=trusty --mint-dist=none (and for fat clients, use the ltsp-pnp method) #ltsp-update-image -c /, or (#2) Simple fix for ltsp-build-client... add "--exclude software-properties-gtk" (without the quotes) to your normal ltsp-build-client command
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| 03:03 | <bennabiy> !forget mint17 1
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| 03:03 | <ltsp`> The operation succeeded.
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| 03:08 | <bennabiy> !learn mint17 as ppa:bennabiy/testing contains updated packages which are already patched for mint 17.
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| 03:08 | <ltsp`> The operation succeeded.
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| 03:08 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: patch is lp:~bennabiy/ltsp/lm17
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| 03:08 | DIFF should only be one line
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| 03:20 | <bennabiy> well, I am off to bed.
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| 03:34 | <bennabiy> hrm.. seems it just builds an ubuntu chroot... I will look at this more tomorrow.
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| 05:04 | <cyberorg> bennabiy, thanks for the great work on LDM_PASSWORD_HASH :)
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| 13:05 | <bennabiy> cyberorg: glad it is working for you.
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| 13:34 | <bennabiy> vagrantc, alkisg: just to confirm. The patch I supplied does allow a client to build, but only generates an ubuntu chroot. I am looking into it now.
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| 14:58 | <cryptrat> anyone familiar with dnsmasq, could it interfere with normal network traffic?
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| 15:07 | <alkisg> cryptrat: more specifically?
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| 15:08 | E.g. if you're using it for DNS or DHCP, it'll produce the respective network traffic, but I'm not aware of any particular bugs about it...
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| 17:32 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: any idea why ltsp-build-client would neglect my settings in 001-set-mint-dist code when I see it setting the mirrors. It just neglects the late packages
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| 17:33 | and tries to load ldm-mate-theme
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| 17:33 | instead of ldm-mint-theme
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| 17:40 | <vagrantc> timing?
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| 17:59 | <bennabiy> Somehow it tries to pull it if I do not have EXCLUDE in place, but does not even touch it if EXCLUDE is defined, either through the command line or hard coded
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| 18:00 | <bennabiy> so basically, it seems that I need to use pinning to solve this, rather than just the exclude.
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| 18:01 | * bennabiy sees the comments coming... | |
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| 18:02 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: I might need to do something unconventional to make this work... bear with me, for the sake of the trillions... (of cells ) which use linux mint with LTSP
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| 18:44 | vagrantc: made a few changes... testing them out.
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| 19:20 | <bennabiy> Hmm. is there an option to use the servers apt keys?
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| 19:31 | <vagrantc> it would be worth implementing
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| 19:31 | at the time i first implemented it, there was only /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
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| 19:32 | so it was easy to specify with --keyring or whatever
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| 20:05 | <bennabiy> ppa cause issues, even when using servers trusted.gpg and trustdb.gpg
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| 20:38 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: I do not have much time, but I have added a little more debugging info. Seems that there is something setting LATE_PACKAGES causing mine to not show up
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| 20:39 | ubuntu-restricted-extras gimp and nfs-client are showing as $LATE_PACKAGES in the middle of my code...
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| 20:40 | AHH! I think I know!
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| 20:40 | I was experimenting with fat client things, and think I must have a config file with it set.
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| 20:42 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: glad to be helpful!
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| 20:43 | <bennabiy> what is the best way to include someones LATE_PACKAGES + the required ones?
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| 20:43 | <bennabiy> LATE_PACKAGES="$LATE_PACKAGES pkg1 pkg2 etc" ?
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| 20:44 | <vagrantc> yes
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| 20:47 | <abcd> buenas tardes tengo un problema quiero imprimir localmente en un thin client pero no me detecta la impresora
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| 20:47 | es un kiwi linux basado en ubuntu 12.04 y ltsp 5 si me pudieran ayudar o dar un consejo se los agradeceria
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| 20:49 | <bennabiy> looks like it is picking it up this time... lets see if it succeeds
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| 20:49 | abcd: ingles por favor
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| 20:50 | <abcd> good afternoon I have a problem I want to print locally to a thin client but I can not detect the printer
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| 20:50 | <vagrantc> kiwi linux?
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| 20:50 | based on ubuntu 12.04 ?
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| 20:50 | <abcd> kiwi is a linux based on ubuntu 12.04 ltsp and 5 if you could help me or give some advice I would appreciate it
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| 20:51 | <bennabiy> abcd: might be your network settings. if you want to use local apps, they will need to be able to see the rest of the network, beyond your server
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| 20:51 | not sure if that made sense
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| 20:53 | <abcd> local applications and enable local print devices but device not detected when connected by usb to tink client
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| 20:55 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: I am now trying to simplify my fix to see what is required, and what is just code thrown to the wind to make it work
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| 20:55 | I will have to finish up on Sunday, after I get done baking
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| 20:55 | I am doing a build right now, will let you know if it works
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| 20:58 | <abcd> ok thank you very much
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| 21:13 | <alkisg> bennabiy: I think the fat client plugin for ltsp-build-client, blacklists some packages. You could just do the same with software-properties-gtk.
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| 21:14 | Or at least it used to, in the past...
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| 21:17 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/revision/1944
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| 21:17 | You could do the same there, $ROOT/etc/apt/preferences.d/mint-blacklist"
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| 21:19 | But dependencies should be fixed in mint so that pinning is not required in future versions...
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