IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 7 November 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:07 | <bennabiy> tfdl: do you have it set to use a time server?
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| 01:42 | <tfdl> bennabiy: i do not know that, can you show briefly how? Thanks!
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| 01:44 | I will give it a try. Thanks!
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| 01:49 | <bennabiy> tfdl: I cannot remember the specifics, but you could start by looking it up.
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| 02:38 | <tfdl> thanks bennabiy, i will find in google.
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| 03:45 | <bennabiy> vagrantc and alkisg: I have a test .deb of a ldm theme.
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| 05:10 | <urly> Hi all. I'm still trying to solve my sound issue. I modified the chroot /etc/pulse/daemon.conf flat-volume=no (like in ubuntu 10.04) and now I can change volume on a playing sound within the app playing the sound (vlc, flash, totem).
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| 05:10 | (So I set flat-volume to no)
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| 05:13 | but I still have issues : sound is not started at fresh log, and if I change the volume with the desktop icon, sound breaks (pa_stream_writable_size() failed : connection terminated) until I manually restart it with the ltsp-init-common start_sound function.
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| 05:16 | I've also noticed something : if I make my chroot console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) beep once logged (here as root) before having my LDM (Ctrl+Alt+F7) logged as a user, well sound is started for the user.
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| 05:22 | So I keep thinking about studying pulseaudio, but help still be appreciated (as they even were), thanks.
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| 05:24 | s/(as they even were)/(as suggestions and advices even were)/
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| 05:36 | Hi. I have a problem with LTSP. User session start without the global sound icon (except if the thin client console has just beeped). When I run any sound app, I get a "pa_stream_writable_size() failed : connection terminated". So after restarting manually pulseaudio in system mode (as usually, when you use LTSP) on the thin client, I can play sound.
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| 05:40 | I partially fixed the problem by setting flat-volume to no in the daemon.conf system of the client, which let me set the volume within the sound app that plays, but I can't set global volume, and I still don't have a good session start for my users.
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| 05:41 | How to know if the problem is software or hardware (VIA1612A, ok with ubuntu 10.04) ?
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| 05:41 | And how to know if the problem is LTSP or pulseaudio ?
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| 05:42 | (sorry I wanted to write on #pulseaudio, (
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| 06:07 | <work_alkisg> Does it work with a live ubuntu 12.04?
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| 06:08 | <alkisg> urly: ^
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| 06:09 | <urly> hi alkisg
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| 06:10 | Well I can't start live ubuntu 12.04 on my neoware ca10, but with my hp t5510 I can
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| 06:10 | <alkisg> Why, it doesn't have a boot from usb option?
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| 06:10 | And, both of them have the sound issue?
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| 06:11 | <urly> both yes, and same via1612a
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| 06:11 | <alkisg> And does sound work fine with the hp t5510?
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| 06:11 | And, do any other clients work fine wrt sound?
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| 06:12 | <urly> live usb yes for the t5510, sound ok with my laptop as a thin client
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| 06:13 | and live USB sound works with t5510, too
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| 06:15 | <alkisg> And the neoware client only has 128 ram?
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| 06:16 | <urly> VIA1612A is the chip of my VIA 8235 sound card on my neowares ca10
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| 06:17 | no some of them have 512+256
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| 06:17 | <alkisg> Hmm, so it's not a RAM issue, it would make sense for pulse to die with 128 ram with the default ltsp setup...
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| 06:17 | So why not try booting from usb with some of the ones with 512 ram?
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| 06:19 | <urly> I've ever tried to usb boot with the ca10 but I didn't manage
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| 06:20 | but I have one running LTSP 10.04 right now
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| 06:20 | as a client
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| 06:20 | <alkisg> You can't debug 12.04 problems using 10.04 though...
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| 06:21 | <urly> ha
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| 06:21 | <alkisg> You can use pxelinux and tell it to boot from usb
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| 06:21 | Ah, here's another method:
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| 06:21 | !livecd-netboot
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| 06:21 | <ltsp`> Error: "livecd-netboot" is not a valid command.
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| 06:22 | <alkisg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot ==> ONLY the automation script paragraph there
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| 06:22 | <urly> ok, I've never, but I can try. How ? Or better : what do I do after
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| 06:22 | ok
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| 06:23 | <alkisg> Well, if sound works with 12.04 live booted, keep bugging #ltsp or #pulseaudio,
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| 06:23 | *sorry, if it doesn't
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| 06:23 | meh
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| 06:23 | too early in the morning, if sound works, then yeah bug us or #pulse,
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| 06:23 | while if it doesn't work, it's not an ltsp or pulse issue, it's a kernel etc issue, so take it to #ubuntu
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| 06:24 | <elias_a> alkisg: Were teachers also on strike yesterday in Greece?
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| 06:24 | <alkisg> elias_a: morning! some of them, yeah...
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| 06:24 | <elias_a> alkisg: Morning. The strike was in Finnish national tv news. That's my reason for asking.
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| 06:25 | <alkisg> Wow, I didn't know we went so public...
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| 06:25 | <urly> alkisg : I've got the issue with 12.04 and debian 7
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| 06:25 | <elias_a> alkisg: I really do hope Greece gets financial things in order and stays in EU.
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| 06:25 | <alkisg> The distro doesn't matter
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| 06:26 | <urly> ok
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| 06:26 | <alkisg> elias_a: I don't think any country can leave the EU without the EU falling apart...
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| 06:27 | It's usually not a local issue, the economy is driven by global politics
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| 06:28 | <elias_a> alkisg: I don't think so as EU is after all based on economy more than anything else. Small countries have little importance...
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| 06:29 | But of course if one country is being split off, the next one is easier and that's where the slippery slope begins.
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| 06:29 | <alkisg> There was some essay about it from some global financial organization, I don't remember the link but it's not my own thoughts about it
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| 06:30 | I think the idea is to make the public section smaller, to rip off nation treasures etc
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| 06:30 | <elias_a> Ok. I'd like to read it.
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| 06:30 | <alkisg> I don't think they want to completely destroy any country's economy, they'll gain less by doing that
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| 06:31 | <elias_a> I think Greece does not have any fundamental problem when it comes to productivity.
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| 06:31 | <alkisg> It's not like suddenly greeks stopped working and the problem started... it's a manufactured problem
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| 06:32 | <elias_a> Seen from finnish perspective your only problem is the tradition of doing some things past the system.
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| 06:33 | I have no personal experience but my impression is that the greeks are not as happy tax payers as people in Finland for example.
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| 06:33 | Of course there are people in Finland, too, who avoid taxes.
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| 06:34 | But that is not definately seen to be a virtue :D
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| 06:34 | <urly> alkisg : oh I'm thinking my neoware have no pae flag, I guess I'll have a problem with 12.04. I maybe should do the live netboot with debian or no ?
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| 06:34 | <alkisg> A recent study said that in an ideal system, if greece was able to collect all the pending taxes, they'd get about 5 billion, which is only a tiny fraction of the debt
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| 06:35 | So while that is a problem (and was in the past with no crisis anywhere), it's not the main cause
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| 06:35 | <elias_a> alkisg: Ok. That is good to know.
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| 06:36 | alkisg: As I have adopted some marxist economical thinking I can imagine how this situation has been generated.
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| 06:37 | <alkisg> I hate the current economy system, it's too unstable and easy to get manipulated
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| 06:38 | Money don't correspond to actual work, value, treasure anymore, only stocks matter
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| 06:38 | And I think there are groups that actually planned it that way...
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| 06:39 | (no conspiracy theories though :))
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| 06:40 | <elias_a> alkisg: There does not have to be any conspiration theory because there are document leaks that prove it.
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| 06:40 | Just a moment....
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| 06:40 | <alkisg> urly: 12.04 does have a non-pae kernel, use the 12.04.0 cd, the original one, not 12.04.3
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| 06:41 | Use the ubuntu cd, not the debian one, it'll be harder for you to netboot debian live
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| 06:42 | <urly> all right )
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| 06:43 | <alkisg> urly: ah, moment, I think i remembered wrong,
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| 06:43 | I think even the 12.04.0 cd comes with the pae kernel, and the non-pae is only an option after the installation...
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| 06:44 | urly: so it might be easier to try the client as a fat client, which handles pulseaudio differently
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| 06:44 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 06:44 | <ltsp`> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 06:44 | <alkisg> You could e.g. test with that ^ and with a non-pae kernel in a VM ltsp server
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| 06:45 | Or maybe lubuntu 12.04 sihped with non-pae, google it
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| 06:46 | So you could use livecd-netboot with lubuntu
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| 06:47 | Yup, so use that ^, lubuntu 12.04 + livecd netboot
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| 06:48 | <urly> this one :http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/non-pae/ mini.iso ?
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| 06:50 | <alkisg> no, lubuntu-i386-12.04.iso
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| 06:51 | <urly> ok
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| 06:51 | <elias_a> alkisg: Is this like something you had in your mind? http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/larry-summers-and-the-secret-end-game-memo
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| 06:52 | <alkisg> Heh, the greek schools squid proxy doesn't allow that page
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| 06:52 | * alkisg has to get back to work, bbl... :) | |
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| 08:36 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: did you know that English speakers already know Greek? http://alkisg.mysch.gr/temp/english.htm :)
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| 08:39 | <muppis> alkisg, can I distribute that address?
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| 08:39 | <alkisg> muppis: it's in my temp folder, to be deleted in e.g. a few months, but I have no problem otherwise
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| 08:39 | <muppis> Ok. :)
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| 08:48 | <elias_a> alkisg: Do you wish to get a pdf of that article via email?
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| 09:00 | <alkisg> elias_a: nah - i'd like the original link (I got it via mail) but too much work, no time to search right now :)
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| 09:10 | <alkisg> navgou: τι λένε οι clients;
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| 09:10 | <navgou> alkisg: μαυρες οθόνες τα fat
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| 09:10 | <alkisg> Φτου
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| 09:10 | ΟΚ πάμε για αποσφαλμάτωση
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| 09:11 | Απομακρυσμένη βοήθεια στο alkisg.dyndns.org
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| 09:11 | <navgou> ok
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| 09:12 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, if someone would send me that text saying it's in English my reply would be "Looks like Greek to me."
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| 10:02 | <roces4> hej
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| 10:02 | hey alkisg can you help me?
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| 10:02 | <alkisg> Hi, I don't know if I can, ask! :)
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| 10:02 | !ask
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| 10:02 | <ltsp`> ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 10:05 | <alkisg> roces4: ?
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| 10:06 | <roces4> yes
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| 10:06 | :)
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| 10:06 | a have ltsp
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| 10:06 | serwer
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| 10:07 | and all client booting to ubuntu serwer not to windows serwer terminal i don't know why, they don;t see configuration in lts.conf
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| 10:07 | http://pastebin.com/WteFcaz2
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| 10:08 | this is this configuration file
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| 10:09 | <alkisg> The key=value on top is wrong, remove it
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| 10:10 | Then reboot clients
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| 10:19 | <sd34> hello, I've been trying my way with ltsp standalone and followed the wikis
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| 10:20 | <roces4> key=value? remove
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| 10:20 | maybe client havent aplication rdesktop?
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| 10:21 | <sd34> my laptop with PXE 2.0 built-in won't receive any image file name from the server, my router has IP 192.168.1.1. Is this wrong? I couldn't understand the wikis when it says "Configure your spare interface for the thin clients to have the IP 192.168.0.1 (and make sure it is up and running). "
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| 10:21 | Is that to say the server?
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| 10:49 | <roces4> who can help me?
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| 10:50 | <sd34> roces4 I'm not very goot at LTSP
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| 10:51 | I'm looking for help myself but just write your issue down
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| 10:52 | <roces4> my all client booting to ubuntu serwer not to windows serwer terminal
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| 10:52 | whu
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| 10:52 | why
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| 10:52 | ?
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| 10:52 | <sd34> explain a little further
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| 10:55 | gtg sorry, others will hopefully assist you
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| 10:55 | <roces4> http://pastebin.com/WteFcaz2
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| 10:55 | this is my file configuration
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| 10:55 | lts
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| 10:55 | but the client dont'see this file
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| 10:56 | <sd34> good luck
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| 10:56 | bye
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| 11:16 | <Hyperbyte> roces4, few things. Remove line 1, the "key=value" thing. Also remove the unneeded empty lines (3, 4, 15, 16)
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| 11:18 | Next, remove all whitespaces around the '=' characters. So replace 'DNS_SERVER = 172.16.1.230' with 'DNS_SERVER=172.16.1.230', for example
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| 11:19 | Then, if you're not using Linux thin/fat clients and just rdesktop, remove lines 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14
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| 11:19 | Lastly, change SCREEN_01 to SCREEN_06 and SCREEN_02 to SCREEN_07
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| 11:20 | Then reboot clients and specify exactly what happens.
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| 11:57 | <roces4> who can help me
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| 12:03 | <roces4> in ltsp how shutdown all clients?
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| 13:17 | <Hyperbyte> roces4, did you see my earlier messages?
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| 13:18 | http://irclogs.ltsp.org/ See there, at 11:16
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| 13:54 | <bennabiy> alkisg: I have my source, I have a .deb for ldm-mint-theme. What do I do now? :)
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| 13:56 | alkisg: your english article has some misspellings
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| 13:57 | <alkisg> It's not mine, I got it in a mail
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| 13:57 | <bennabiy> ahh
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| 14:38 | <bennabiy> !bot
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| 14:38 | <ltsp`> I do not know about 'bot', but I do know about these similar topics: 'supybot', 'pastebot'
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| 14:40 | <bennabiy> alkisg: seems clem is going to host my ldm theme for mint on his servers
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| 14:41 | I am also going to submit it for debian inclusion
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| 14:48 | <bennabiy> ok, so as of today, there is a new package on the mint repository for ldm-mint-theme :)
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| 14:54 | <alumno___> hola quisiera preguntarte como enviar archivos por Epoptes
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| 14:56 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 14:59 | <jammcq> sbalneav: Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 14:59 | <bennabiy> sbalneav: welcome!
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| 15:02 | <BeVeR> hello :)
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| 15:02 | <alumno___> hello I want to ask how to send and receive files with Epoptes
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| 15:04 | <BeVeR> I am really new to ltsp, can anyone tell me how to delete the client I set up so I can start from scratch ? :)
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| 15:08 | <bennabiy> Does anyone know a good way to squish the filesize down on pngs?
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| 15:09 | Also, what is the expected resolution for LDM?
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| 15:09 | like, how large should my bg.png be?
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| 15:18 | <ogra_> bennabiy, pngcrush
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| 15:19 | <bennabiy> I used it. It helped. then I went to tinypng online and it dropped it to 1/4 again
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| 15:53 | <bennabiy> 10:52:44 AM - bennabiy: http://twelvetribes.org/dropbox/mint-higher.png or http://twelvetribes.org/dropbox/mint-morecentered.png
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| 15:53 | 10:52:47 AM - bennabiy: which looks better?
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| 16:28 | <bennabiy> Is it possible to use ltsp-pnp and regular ltsp at the same time?
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| 16:29 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 16:29 | <ltsp`> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 16:51 | <yopla> hello, i'd like ton know if there is a way to force LTSP server to connect to with ldm
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| 16:56 | <other_other_joe> Can you rephrase your question please?
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| 16:59 | <yopla> sorry
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| 16:59 | which server to connect to
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| 17:00 | but I think it is ssh related problem
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| 17:01 | I try to connect an debian ltsp thin client to ubunt ltsp server
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| 17:01 | via ldm
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| 17:03 | <yopla> if i understant i have to ltsp-update-sshkey on ubuntu server then update keys on debian ltsp chroot
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| 17:05 | <cliebow> debian still doing nfs mount compared to ubuntu
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| 17:06 | <yopla> yes that's true
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| 17:06 | but i wanted to test new italc
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| 17:06 | as it is included in whaeezy-backports
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| 17:07 | wheezy
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| 17:08 | but first, i'd like to get ldm runing on my original ltsp server
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| 17:09 | (the ubunt one)
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| 17:11 | I think i need to push the ubuntu ssh keys on the debian one tight ?
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| 17:18 | <bennabiy> What is the best way to specify a fat client image for just one computer? would I do it at the DHCP level?
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| 17:18 | * bennabiy has never touched fat clients before... | |
| 17:19 | <yopla> I think so as the ltsp chroot is different
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| 17:39 | <yopla> Finaly, the solution was : 1)ubuntu = ltsp-update-sshkeys --export 2)debian = paste public keys in /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.ubuntu 3)debian = ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 17:40 | Now my Debian thin client is connecting to my ubuntu ltsp server.
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| 17:41 | <cerettala> Question for y'all, I am just playing around with this and setting it up for my first time. I have attempted to RTFM this problem, but am not sure where this is misconfigured. I am trying to make a few 64bit thin cilents work, but whenever they try to boot, they attempt to mount /opt/ltsp/i386 (which doesn't exist).
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| 18:15 | <alkisg> cerettala: what's the exact message?
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| 18:15 | bennabiy: the lower picture seems better, but maybe it needs to be just a bit higher
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| 18:15 | <cerettala> alexqwesa: Nov 7 12:06:09 ltsp rpc.mountd[2222]: can't stat exported dir /opt/ltsp/i386: No such file or directory
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| 18:15 | <alkisg> bennabiy: And, yes it's possible to use ltsp-pnp and plain ltsp, it's the same code
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| 18:16 | <cerettala> the directory it should be mounting is /opt/ltsp/amd64
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| 18:16 | <alkisg> cerettala: distro/version?
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| 18:16 | <cerettala> Debian wheezy
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| 18:16 | <alkisg> What's your dhcpd.conf like?
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| 18:16 | !pastebin
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| 18:16 | <ltsp`> pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 18:17 | <cerettala> http://pastebin.com/ysB9Ckt5
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| 18:17 | derp
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| 18:18 | lol
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| 18:18 | Guess I found the problem
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| 18:18 | <alkisg> :)
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| 18:18 | <cerettala> Rubbery ducky debugging is the best....
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| 18:23 | Sure enough, appears to be running like a charm now
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| 18:23 | Thanks for the assist
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| 18:25 | <alkisg> np, thanks for teaching me a new phrase (rubber duck debugging) :)
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| 18:37 | <bennabiy> alkisg: here is my situation. I have been running from the server for my user (with the rest all thin clients). Some of what I do and use resources for, I cannot do as a thin client (so I guess technically, my user has been a thick client the whole time) ;)
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| 18:38 | <alkisg> bennabiy: ltsp-pnp supports both thin and fat at the same time, you don't need multiple images...
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| 18:38 | <bennabiy> but now I want to use a fatclient for my user, but not disrupt the rest of the thin clients which are running fine
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| 18:38 | <alkisg> Just set LTSP_FATCLIENT=False in lts.conf, and LTSP_FATCLIENT=True for you
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| 18:39 | <bennabiy> alkisg: what about my 2 nic setup?
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| 18:39 | <bennabiy> I thought ltsp-pnp used just 1
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| 18:40 | <alkisg> bennabiy: it's just 1 line in your dhcp configuration
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| 18:40 | (2 nics vs 1 nic)
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| 18:40 | Actually, the default setup supports both 1 and 2 nics
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| 18:41 | If you use 192.168.67.1 as your internal ip, it works out of the box
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| 18:42 | <bennabiy> alkisg: my issue... I have users actively logged in and working. Can I switch to pnp without disrupting them?
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| 18:42 | since they are all thin clients anyway
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| 18:43 | <Enslaver> which distro's are currently using btrfs for the thin clients?
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| 18:44 | <bennabiy> have you tested ltsp-pnp with versions other than 12.04?
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| 18:45 | alkisg: also, is it fine if I use the current ppa I have of ltsp for ltsp-pnp?
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| 18:46 | aka my ppa which is in sync with upstream
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| 18:46 | (I noticed you suggest using the greekschools ppa)
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| 18:59 | <bennabiy> alkisg: so what exactly is the difference between making a fat client and using ltsp-pnp?
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| 18:59 | when potentially, I am the only fat client on the network
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| 19:03 | <bennabiy> ok, I think I see what is happening...
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| 19:05 | what is the default image name that it creates? amd64.img?
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| 19:05 | or whatever arch
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| 19:05 | * bennabiy wants patience... and I want it now! | |
| 19:06 | <elias_a> bennabiy: Why don't you pray for it? :P
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| 19:06 | bennabiy: Sorry, just had to... :D
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| 19:08 | <bennabiy> I probably should more than I do...
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| 19:16 | <alkisg> (08:42:12 μμ) bennabiy: alkisg: my issue... I have users actively logged in and working. Can I switch to pnp without disrupting them? ==> sure, you just need an ltsp-update-image -c /
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| 19:16 | (08:45:31 μμ) bennabiy: alkisg: also, is it fine if I use the current ppa I have of ltsp for ltsp-pnp? => yup
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| 19:16 | (08:44:26 μμ) bennabiy: have you tested ltsp-pnp with versions other than 12.04? => nope
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| 19:16 | bennabiy: if your server is amd64, then the ltsp-pnp image will be amd64 too
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| 19:17 | So if your clients are i386, don't use ltsp-pnp, just build a fat chroot
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| 19:17 | Enslaver: none? :)
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| 19:18 | <bennabiy> the rest of the clients are all atom machines
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| 19:18 | which do not make good fat clients (score of about 300 )
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| 19:19 | could I not use ltsp-update-image -c / for an amd64 fat client, and then let the thin clients use the existing i386 image?
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| 19:20 | and then at my /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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| 19:20 | make my mac address of my fat client pull the right image?
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| 19:21 | <alkisg> bennabiy: sure
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| 19:21 | <bennabiy> Is it possible to set IPAPPEND=3 only for that one kernel?
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| 19:21 | * alkisg uses atoms as fat clients, but his servers aren't very good, score of about 1500 | |
| 19:22 | <alkisg> You don't need it since you're using an internal nic
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| 19:22 | <bennabiy> great!
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| 19:22 | <alkisg> But yeah, in pxelinux.cfg/01-mac-address instead of pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 19:22 | Don't do anything that the wiki says
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| 19:22 | Since you already have ltsp set up, just run the ltsp-update-image -c / command
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| 19:22 | * bennabiy nods | |
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| 19:28 | * alkisg waves to vagrantc | |
| 19:29 | <bennabiy> and then what is the proper format for the dhcp entry for that mac address?
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| 19:29 | * bennabiy waves to vagrantc as well | |
| 19:29 | <bennabiy> good flight?
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| 19:30 | I managed to get ldm-mint-theme hosted on linuxmint server
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| 19:30 | so it is available, but when I ran install, it pulled ubuntu theme, so I think I need to make a hack in either late-packages, or 030-artwork
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| 19:38 | <bennabiy> alkisg: do I still need to do the NAT setup?
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| 19:38 | for the fat client?
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| 19:39 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 19:42 | <bennabiy> ok.
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| 19:44 | so if I want everything to default to i386, but want to load the fatclient for the one mac address, what is the best way to do that?
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| 19:44 | would I do a host entry in dhcpd?
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| 19:48 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: yeah, you'll need to update the artwork plguin
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| 19:50 | <bennabiy> by then, MINT_DIST should be set one way or another, right? so I could just do a check based on that
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| 20:00 | <sbalneav> vagrantc, alkisg: what's your next week looking like? I can set aside a full day for testing/work on LTSP6?
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| 20:01 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: not sure yet, just got back
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| 20:01 | sbalneav: need to play some catchup
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| 20:01 | * vagrantc hopes to get a couple ltsp uploads in | |
| 20:01 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: should be, yeah.
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| 20:03 | -oes it add them to late-packages, or does it install them in the artwork plugin?
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| 20:05 | <bennabiy> well, ubuntu sneaks in the ldm in artwork
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| 20:05 | 025-artwork I think it is
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| 20:07 | <bennabiy> vagrantc, alkisg: is there any way to not have a lasting tftp directory?
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| 20:08 | I mean to have a lasting (like if I wanted to set up menus in it)
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| 20:10 | <bennabiy> Would it work to set up the menus in tftpboot root dir, and then set the dhcp to look there?
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| 20:11 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: just put your menus in the top-level dir instead of the ltsp generated ones
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| 20:12 | <vagrantc> and point dhcp to those files instead
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| 20:20 | <bennabiy> exactly
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| 20:24 | <alkisg> sbalneav, vagrantc: i'm in for an ltsp6 day, less so in tuesday and thursday
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| 20:25 | * alkisg could also arrange to have a webcam for a hangout, if needed... | |
| 20:26 | <alkisg> bennabiy: that's what I do too... http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2828.0;attach=1672;image
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| 20:31 | <bennabiy> alkisg: where did you pull that menu from?
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| 20:31 | I know how to make .menu files, but how do I get them to be recognized?
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| 20:32 | I did it a long time ago, but cannot remember how
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| 20:32 | that is basically what I want.
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| 20:33 | <sbalneav> Hangouts are always useful.
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| 20:36 | * bennabiy has never "hung out" | |
| 20:41 | * sbalneav prefers his hangouts to involve beer. | |
| 20:41 | <jammcq> sbalneav: hey
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| 20:41 | <elias_a> Hangouts or hangovers?
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| 20:41 | :P
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| 20:43 | <bennabiy> alkisg: you wouldnt part with your source would you?
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| 20:43 | <alkisg> bennabiy: sure, it's in that forum topic... let me get you a link to use with google translate...
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| 20:44 | http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?topic=2828.0
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| 20:45 | (although I haven't uploaded any new "versions" of that method for the past 2 years, I only have them locally...)
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| 20:46 | * bennabiy really needs to learn greek... | |
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| 21:00 | <Jason_New> Hi, Im new. We have loaded LTSP on openSUSE 12.3 using kiwi. We have booted several machine via PXE and we connect to a Green Screen with "Education openSUSE". Can anyone help me with what comes next? We have been trying things for two days with no success.
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| 21:01 | <bennabiy> alkisg: when you have a ` in there, what does that stand for?
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| 21:02 | <alkisg> In the tree? It's just the output of the `tree` command, to join the tree "leaves"...
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| 21:03 | <vagrantc> Jason_New: try in #kiwi-ltsp
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| 21:04 | <Jason_New> #kiwi-ltsp thanks
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| 21:26 | <bennabiy> gotcha, and all the syslinux stuff is in its own directory, right?
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| 21:27 | according to your default file, it is, but the tree listing looks like it is all in the root
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| 21:38 | <bennabiy> hmm.. Script //usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-cleanup does not exist, cannot cleanup the chroot.
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| 21:40 | <alkisg> Old package? The current debian/ directory should include that file.
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| 21:40 | (in the .install scripts...)
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| 21:41 | <bennabiy> I think I am not running from my ppa on this machine.
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| 21:41 | <alkisg> Either add yours, or the greek ppa
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| 21:42 | <bennabiy> ok. Would it hurt it if I stop the build process?
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| 21:42 | it is compressing the image
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| 21:47 | hmm. not letting me add my ppa.
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| 22:07 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: my hunch is this next week might be hard, but the following weekend should be good, maybe
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| 22:09 | sbalneav: i'd definitely like to get a sprint of some kind together, though
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| 22:10 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: my goal is to get ltsp6 ready-ish in the next 6-8 months
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| 22:12 | <alkisg> sbalneav: do you remember if there was something wrong with `xprop -spy`, and you had to implement xatomwait? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1248438
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| 22:17 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i bet your the bzr history knows
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| 22:17 | <alkisg> vagrantc: for ltsp-localappsd?
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| 22:18 | move to shell based daemon per Gadi: xrexecd.c -> xatomwait.c, simply wait for an atom to change, print atom contents, and exit. modified xrexecd.sh to xatomwait
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| 22:19 | <vagrantc> it used to be xrexecd, i think
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| 22:20 | <alkisg> vagrantc: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/revision/832
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| 22:21 | There was no `-spy` parameter
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| 22:21 | So there was a need for `sleep `, and constant xprop calls, etc
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| 22:21 | <vagrantc> right
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| 22:21 | <alkisg> So... remove xatomwait.c and get back to the shell implementation, but with -spy?
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| 22:22 | Or just leave it for ltsp6 with an ssh socket?
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| 22:22 | <vagrantc> so we either didn't know about -spy or it didn't exist...
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| 22:22 | i like the idea of incremental improvements
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| 22:23 | as long as they're not too invasive
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| 22:23 | <alkisg> Sounds good to me too, I can take care of the code if you take care of any packaging changes needed :)
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| 22:23 | <vagrantc> although i did want to just upload what was in ltsp-trunk saturday without much fuss
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| 22:24 | hoped to get it this last weekend... got some testing in this week
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| 22:24 | <alkisg> np, I can do it when we'll do the ltsp coding day
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| 22:25 | <vagrantc> i'd like to try and schedule at least a couple days a month or something to focus on coding
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| 22:25 | or even a day a week?
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| 22:25 | <alkisg> Personally I prefer to put a looot of days into one subject, then move to another
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| 22:26 | So I e.g. wanted to debug 14.04 (not ltsp things) till christmas, and focus on ltsp6 at the summer
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| 22:26 | (and progress my phd a bit inbetween...)
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| 22:26 | * vagrantc wants ltsp6 ready by summer... | |
| 22:26 | <vagrantc> or mostly ready
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| 22:29 | * alkisg is fine with the "a couple of days per month" approach though | |
| 22:31 | <vagrantc> i'd really like to get some sort of sprint together, ideally in person, sometime this summer
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| 22:32 | <alkisg> If you can find me a place to stay, I can get there a lot before debconf :)
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| 23:15 | <parasitodelsur> team, I am having an issue I cant get pass through....
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| 23:15 | pb coming up
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| 23:17 | <SeRi> http://pastebin.com/Cyf5XkVk
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| 23:17 | I keep getting that error
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| 23:18 | I done a previous install without issues. about 2 month ago.
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| 23:20 | I seen a few emails regarding the same issue on the mailing lists but I dont see a fix
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| 23:29 | another thing I notice that is odd.... 2 month ago the repo had 5.4.5-24.el6 and now it has 5.4.5-22.el6.... It makes no sense
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