IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 23 October 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:24 | <lucjayjay> hey guys, quick question. Is is possible to pxe boot LTSP Clients in UEFI mode ?
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| 09:07 | <alkisg> lucjayjay: possible yes, but not automated yet
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| 09:07 | I've done it but I haven't even written a how-to yet
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| 09:10 | !uefi
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| 09:10 | <ltsp> uefi: To boot UEFI clients with LTSP, switch them to Legacy BIOS (CSM). If you can't, then use google translate on this one: http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?topic=6466.0
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| 09:17 | <lucjayjay> did u managed to do it with iPxe?
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| 09:19 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 09:19 | I managed to do it with ipxe and with grub
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| 09:20 | (unrelated tries)
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| 09:20 | <lucjayjay> guess i have to boot the kernel and the initrd with ipxe and give them a path to the nbd file ?
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| 09:21 | <alkisg> Why give them a path?
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| 09:21 | The nbd path is sent via dhcp, later in the initramfs
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| 09:21 | <lucjayjay> ah ok
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| 09:21 | didnt know that
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| 09:23 | so i have to add an uefi entry to my dhcp config and boot the kernel and initrd with ipxe ?
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| 09:24 | or do i need to change more ?
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| 09:25 | <alkisg> lucjayjay: when I said it's not documented, there was a reason for that
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| 09:25 | It's because it's difficult :)
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| 09:25 | A lot of steps are needed to implement uefi pxe, yes
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| 09:26 | <lucjayjay> ok
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| 09:26 | thank u anyway
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| 09:26 | <alkisg> np
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| 09:27 | (it would take 3-4 hours to test+write the documentation)
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| 09:29 | <fiesh> are there any advantages to using uefi over legacy bios? for network or normal boot. I found uefi to be utter garbage, but maybe I'm wrong (for example, there's no way to boot from zfs... I guess in order to have some reliability against hard disk failure you'd have to set up a garbage raid system with fat on it that uefi could boot from?)
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| 09:30 | <alkisg> Some devices don't have legacy bios at all
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| 09:30 | So... :)
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| 09:30 | If you do have it, yup, no reason to dive into uefi
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| 09:31 | <fiesh> oh god, I will try not to get such a device, ever...
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| 09:36 | <Guest82442> fiesh: getting harder and harder not to have one...
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| 09:38 | <fiesh> ok, I hope at least on non-consumer hardware the legacy bios will prevail a bit longer
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| 14:44 | <bennabiy> :q
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| 14:48 | <gvy> :wq
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| 14:52 | <bennabiy> :!wq
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| 14:52 | * bennabiy mutters something about make me a sandwich | |
| 15:15 | <alkisg> Make you a sandwich?! No!
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| 15:15 | sudo make me a sandwich
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| 15:16 | OK!
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| 15:16 | https://xkcd.com/149/
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| 15:31 | <bennabiy> alkisg: any progress with the TS being reinstated over there?
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| 15:32 | I read your post about the current state of things, very sad
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| 15:42 | <alkisg> bennabiy: nah, this looks like the end of development for epoptes, ltsp-manager etc
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| 15:42 | There's still small hope,let's see
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| 15:45 | <vagrantc> ltsp-manager is finally available in debian experimental! just in time for primary development to stall... :/
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| 16:51 | <alkisg_web> packages.debian.org/ltsp-manager
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| 16:52 | Hey, nice! :)
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| 16:53 | Btw I was trying out Ubuntu 17.10 with wayland and all... it looks like ltsp, ldm, epoptes, ltsp-manager etc will need a lot of love to properly leave X behind...
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| 16:54 | <vagrantc> no surprise that dropping X would require a lot of work...
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| 16:54 | <alkisg_web> E.g. root apps no longer have access to the display... so ltsp-manager will need to break in backend+polkit+frontend parts
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| 19:25 | <truth_> Hi, I would like to automatically mount a samba share at the client via FSTAB_1="//samba/share /mnt/share cifs credentials=/root/.cifspasswd 0 0" in lts.conf.
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| 19:25 | My problem is that ltsp-update-image.excludes contains the line: root/.*
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| 19:25 | Is there a easy way to exclude all files from /root except: /root/.cifspasswd
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| 19:30 | <alkisg> Put an INIT_COMMAND_CP_CIFS="cp -a /somewhere/else /root/.cifspasswd" line
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| 19:32 | Also, the file doesn't even need to be in /root, it can be elsewhere...
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| 19:33 | <truth_> I was thinking about to put it in opt ...
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| 19:33 | <alkisg> Finally, you can even generate the file from lts.conf, like "echo username=xxx\npassword=yyy > somefile"
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| 19:33 | This should be even a bit safere
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| 19:33 | *safer
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| 19:33 | As it won't be included in the image at all
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| 19:38 | (and you could also just use FSTAB_1 to put the credentials in fstab, and chmod -r it...)
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| 19:45 | <truth_> So, how would I create a file with lts.conf? ... by using a script via LDM_SESSION=my_script ?
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| 19:47 | <alkisg> INIT_COMMAND_1="echo username=xxx\npassword=yyy > somefile"
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| 19:50 | <truth_> If I look to man lts.conf I don't find this INIT_COMMAND ...? Do I have an old version ...?
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| 19:55 | <alkisg> No, I just didn't document it
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| 20:00 | <truth_> Ok. If I would use the INIT_COMMAND in order to create my credential file ...
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| 20:00 | ... I better should change lts.conf to 640 instead of 644, right?
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| 20:02 | <alkisg> no
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| 20:08 | <alkisg> lts.conf needs to be readable by tftp, so take care to leave it readable
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| 20:08 | Anyone that knows to "tftp get lts.conf" can read it anyway
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| 20:14 | <truth_> If I understand you correct the credential will be either visible in lts.conf or within the image?
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| 20:14 | <alkisg> yes
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| 20:18 | <truth_> Ok - I think it doesn't matter to much in my case ...
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| 20:18 | Thanks, for the kind support.
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| 22:51 | <Kelly> Hey everyone!
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