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Channel log from 17 February 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:59 | <gnunux> bonjour
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| 01:59 | sorry ... hi
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| 01:59 | <HrdwrBoB> hola
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| 01:59 | <gnunux> sorry :/
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| 02:51 | <Hyperbyte> Hehehe
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| 03:49 | <sathis> how to i get connected to ubuntu via vnc
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| 03:49 | as like windows
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| 03:50 | even after remote restart VNC has to get connected without any user log in @ front end
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| 03:50 | and ideas
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| 03:50 | <muppis> sathis, FreeNX might easiest.
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| 03:52 | <sathis> is that i can use that and get connected from windows real vnc
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| 03:53 | <muppis> It has it own client to that, but if you insist vnc, then I suggest tightvnc.
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| 03:55 | <sathis> right now i get connected to my ubuntu LTSP server via my real vnc, but for that i need tolog in front and then i get connected
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| 03:55 | <muppis> Or x11vnc if you want to login without any user logged in from console.
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| 03:55 | <sathis> x11vnc ok let me try that now
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| 03:56 | i have my another LTSP server, that has been rebooted now and and i was not able to get connected to my reala vnc
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| 03:56 | <muppis> This is made for 6.06, but should still work. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1548034&postcount=2
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| 03:57 | <sathis> ok and one more dout
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| 03:57 | i have both windows and linux terminals in my env
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| 03:58 | i need to add mac ID of my thinclient to my LTSP so that selected thinclients gets boot ubuntu
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| 03:58 | is that any way i can add mac id with ltsp ?
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| 03:59 | <muppis> Do you mean you use pxe booting for both Windows and Ubuntu?
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| 04:00 | <sathis> yes
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| 04:00 | i have windows 2003 terminal server with live 100 user working with thincklients on windows
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| 04:00 | and now i have installed LTSP server between that
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| 04:01 | <muppis> Then you need to make mac pools to dhcpd and define there which clients are for which system.
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| 04:01 | <sathis> and made some range IP for LTSP dhcp
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| 04:01 | MAC pools in windows / ubuntu ?
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| 04:01 | <muppis> Both.
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| 04:02 | <sathis> ok lemme check in web for config details about mac pool for ubuntu
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| 04:02 | <alkisg> sathis: for connecting to an ubuntu server, I too suggest neatx-server like muppis proposed. It's much easier to setup and much faster than VNC.
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| 04:02 | You just do an "add-apt-repository" and an "apt-get install neatx-server" ==> ready
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| 04:03 | <muppis> If you use separate dhpcd for both (Windows has own dhcpd and Ubuntu its own), define them to respond only for corresponding client with mac pools.
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| 04:03 | <sathis> but do i need the same client software in my windows workstation ?
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| 04:03 | <alkisg> sathis: you need to install the freeware nx client from nomachine
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| 04:03 | <sathis> thanks guys
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| 04:03 | let me try now and make sure that gets works for me
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| 04:04 | and now i'm facing voice break in my LTSP thinclients Sip dailling
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| 04:04 | <alkisg> This are the complete commands: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:freenx-team && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install neatx-server
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| 04:06 | <sathis> Thanks looking in to that now
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| 04:07 | alkisg is that LAN via communication ?
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| 04:08 | <alkisg> sathis: it can be used in LAN, WAN, whatever
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| 04:08 | It works over ssh so it's encrypted
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| 04:08 | You only need access to port 22
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| 04:11 | <sathis> yup i have and i can try that
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| 04:11 | so any idea regarding SIP phones on ubuntu LTSP
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| 04:12 | cause we run a inbound call center where using astrix they make autodial and througs calls to ubuntu thinclients
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| 04:12 | i face some problem like voice break and cal jump to another user
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| 04:13 | why is that LTSP make's call break and auto cqll transfer
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| 04:13 | <alkisg> Which application are you using? Are you using plain thin clients, localapps or fat clients?
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| 04:13 | <sathis> Gigabytes Thinclients
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| 04:14 | <alkisg> No I'm asking about the software not the hardware
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| 04:14 | <sathis> ekiga for sip dailer
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| 04:14 | <alkisg> OK if you don't know what "localapps" and "fat clients" are, then you're probably only using plain thin clients
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| 04:14 | SIP apps work better if installed in the chroot
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| 04:14 | <sathis> on LTSP thinclients
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| 04:15 | <alkisg> How much RAM do your clients have?
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| 04:17 | <sathis> 512MB
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| 04:17 | do i need to update the RAM in my thinclients to get a better voice quality ?
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| 04:17 | cause some times ekiga gets hangups
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| 04:18 | my LTSP server Config : IBM x3400 2 core with 8 GB RAM
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| 04:18 | <alkisg> No, what I'm proposing is that with 512 MB RAM you can use them as fat clients instead
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| 04:18 | !fatclients
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| 04:18 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "fatclients" :: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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| 04:19 | <alkisg> This way ekiga will run locally on the clients so you won't have any delays in sound etc
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| 04:20 | <sathis> yes lemme read that fully
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| 04:20 | but i have alread 2 LTSP server currents running in production env
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| 04:21 | <alkisg> So?
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| 04:21 | <sathis> do that will make any change when i update those to FAT clients
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| 04:21 | <alkisg> It will require much less cpu and ram on the server
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| 04:21 | No other change
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| 04:22 | <sathis> ok will give a try on that
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| 04:23 | and my current ubuntu version is 10.04 Alternate
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| 04:23 | <alkisg> Mine too, although I installed from the desktop.iso :)
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| 04:26 | <sathis> so is that i have to make any steps before updating this image on the current env
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| 04:26 | right now i run the ltsp-build-clients --arch i386
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| 04:27 | 32bit thin clients i'm running with 64bit ubuntu LTSP server
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| 04:28 | <alkisg> You would need to create a new image. And when you're done testing it, your fat clients AND your thin clients could use that new image, so you could delete the old one.
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| 04:28 | You need a testing phase though, if it's a production environment.
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| 04:29 | <sathis> yes for sure cause only by last night i mounted my second server for production
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| 04:29 | and now i dont have real time server in hands for testing
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| 04:29 | but i have space in my VMware
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| 04:29 | may be i have to try with that fo this
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| 04:29 | <alkisg> You can create a second image alongside the first one
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| 04:30 | In your production server, without any downtime at all
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| 04:30 | But. If you do something wrong, you may break your setup
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| 04:30 | So, it's up to you to decide. If you're experienced, you can do it with no downtime...
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| 04:31 | <sathis> uhm its better i test those before i mess up with my current env
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| 06:17 | <Hyperbyte> Hmmm... for me LTSP hangs for like 20 seconds when a wrong password is entered
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| 06:17 | Is this normal behaviour?
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| 06:23 | <muppis> As it does same to me, it seems like it is normal.
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| 06:30 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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| 07:23 | <[GuS]> Hi guys, i am having a problem with latest ltsp5 in gentoo. And i've tried to rebuild the client, but when the terminal is booting, is like is on read only file system: http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9297/ltsp5gentoo.png
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| 07:23 | What i am missing?
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| 07:24 | Is not the first time i've install ltsp5 in gentoo, so for me is weird.
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| 08:13 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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| 08:16 | <xavierb> good afternoon!
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| 08:29 | <[GuS]> Hi guys, i am having a problem with latest ltsp5 in gentoo. And i've tried to rebuild the client, but when the terminal is booting, is like is on read only file system: http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9297/ltsp5gentoo.png. What iam missing?. Is not the first time i've install LTSP, but i didnt since some months... so i dontknow if something changed or a new bug.
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| 08:34 | <cliebow> GAdi!..and Hi MArk
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| 08:42 | <xavierb> Gus: just throwing idea in the air: couldn't this be a problem with tmpfs?
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| 08:44 | I'm having problem to ssh into thin clients: the login dialog comes but passwd is allways refused. I know this is a common problem and I browsed *my* list archives, but I can't find anything
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| 08:44 | <[GuS]> xavierb: maybe, but i'v checked that, also nfs mounts, etc
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| 08:45 | i dont know what else to look
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| 08:45 | xavierb: the problem you have have a workaround in the bug report iirc
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| 08:45 | or maybe you didnt sport the ssh keys
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| 08:45 | export*
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| 08:46 | also could be that ldminfo is not running on xinetd.
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| 08:46 | <xavierb> GuS: thanks, I will check. It can be the ssh keys.
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| 08:49 | GuS: are you using NFS?
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| 08:50 | <[GuS]> xavierb: yes
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| 08:54 | <xavierb> GuS: did you set SYSLOG_HOST to send log to te server?
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| 08:55 | <[GuS]> xavierb: yes, but it does not send it... dont know why... is why i
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| 08:55 | i've take a screenshot
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| 08:58 | <xavierb> GuS: may be your forgot to configure syslog on the server to accept remote log
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| 09:03 | Gus: have a look here https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=IntegratingLtsp
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| 09:03 | GuS: in the chroot etc/init.d/ltsp-client-setup mounts certain directories and files as writeable using tmpfs
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| 09:03 | GuS: you should doucble check that
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| 09:06 | <[GuS]> xavierb: is no the first time i install ltsp5 in gentoo, thats why.
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| 09:06 | Also in my work we use gentoo servers, i whish to change for other distro, but my boss does not.
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| 09:07 | and yes, i know that in that file cotains that, but that is in the client
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| 09:09 | <mistik1> good morning boys and girls
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| 09:09 | <[GuS]> hi mistik1
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| 09:09 | <xavierb> GuS: you could hack a bit [chroot]etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh to display something big on the screen while the client boot
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| 09:10 | Gus: then just check mesage boot to see if it is launched
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| 09:10 | <[GuS]> yep, i know. But seems to be ok compared to another ltsp server
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| 09:13 | also in gentoo there is not mountdevsubfs.sh
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| 09:14 | <xavierb> GuS: that is the name in Debian, but you should have something similar
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| 09:19 | GuS: check the bind_mounts () fucntion in Gentoo's ltsp-client-setup
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| 09:20 | Gus: and ltsp-bindmounts
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| 09:25 | <[GuS]> xavierb: yeah, ok. I am rebuilding the client again first. So have to wait. :)
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| 09:26 | xavierb: you mean this? root_write_method="bind_mounts". This is in another server that works. I dint checked in this one yet, but have to wait now
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| 09:30 | <xavierb> GuS: that is the code to call the function. The function is bottom of the script.
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| 09:31 | GuS: you could add simple code in that function to display a bunch of "tmpsf is running" while booting
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| 09:31 | <[GuS]> yeah..
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| 09:32 | I meant if to check that variable...
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| 16:16 | <sidartha> does any one know of the easies way to automatically shutdown my thin clients in karmic? I tried using chroot cronjobs, and autopoweroff, but neither work
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| 16:20 | <HrdwrBoB> ssh with private key as root and call halt?
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| 16:21 | <sidartha> that shut down the entire system. server and all
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| 16:22 | <HrdwrBoB> um
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| 16:22 | then you aren't on the thin client
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| 16:23 | <sidartha> no, what I want to do is set up a script that automatically shuts down the clients at a given time.
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| 16:25 | i tried su root, on the thin client and /sbin/halt shuts down everything
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| 16:34 | <HrdwrBoB> yeah
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| 16:34 | because you are't 'on' the thin client
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| 16:34 | the desktop is running on your server
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| 16:35 | the $LTSP_CLIENT variable will be the IP of the thin client
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| 16:36 | if you setup ssh allowing root in your chroot
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| 16:36 | you can ssh to that ip
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| 16:36 | and then shut it down
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