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Channel log from 12 October 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:03 | <gnunux> hi
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| 07:31 | <jimjimovich> anyone using Ubuntu one or Dropbox on ltsp?
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| 08:19 | <coordinador> hi everybody
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| 08:20 | is there any problem with ubuntu 10.04 64bit?
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| 08:20 | my ltsp system is for a classroom
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| 08:34 | <Appiah> O_o
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| 08:49 | <highvoltage> people should really learn to be a bit more patient :)
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| 09:20 | <[GuS]> maybe he went to bathroom :P
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| 09:23 | <highvoltage> I'm sure this channel allows idleing while going to the bathroom :)
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| 09:24 | (if not, I'm in deep trouble)
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| 09:31 | <coordinador> hi, how can i now the ltsp version that i have? i ve updated from ubuntu 9.04 to 10.04
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| 09:32 | ...with a command
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| 09:35 | <coordinador> if i have a ltsp system in a children's classroom, which ubuntu is more convenient to install in the server? ubuntu server or desktop?
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| 09:36 | is ubuntu 64bit ready for a common home use? (flash etc..)
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| 09:38 | <[GuS]> I think you didn't read very well the difference between desktop and server versions.
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| 09:38 | and for me, 64bits works well enough for commons stuff in a desktop environment
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| 09:42 | <[GuS]> and in a server, works great.
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| 09:42 | <coordinador> [GuS], some guy told me that 64bit system needs some tweaking to works weel
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| 09:42 | *well
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| 09:42 | and the performance gaining doesnt worth it
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| 09:43 | <[GuS]> well, i use it for years and i dont have to tweak anything
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| 09:43 | and i use it for my server and for my every desktops/laptop
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| 09:45 | <coordinador> since i use the server as ltsp server, do you think is more convenient to install ubuntu desktop 64 in this case (because its more friendly for users than server)?
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| 09:45 | <gnujach> hi, how to load Local Application with client 256mb ram but client with less do not use local application?
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| 09:47 | <gnujach> some manual a think what modified my dhcpd.conf for load two images i386?
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| 10:09 | <coordinador> I had an error when i upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, related to tftp service, this would be fixed, right?
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| 10:14 | <coordinador> Is there a command to know which version of LTSP do I have?
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| 10:24 | <coordinador> I got an error doing ltsp-build-clien (fat client option) the error is: "debconf: (Failed to open fd 3: Bad file descriptor at (eval 24) line 3)"
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| 10:34 | <coordinador> i get three messages: "debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Passthrough"
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| 10:34 | then: "debconf: (Failed to open fd 3: Bad file descriptor at (eval 24) line 3)"
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| 10:34 | and finally: "debconf: falling back to frontend: Noninteractive"
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| 10:39 | <mgariepy> coordinador, dpkg -l | grep ltsp
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| 10:40 | are you using ubuntu or debian ?
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| 10:40 | <coordinador> mgariepy, ubuntu
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| 10:40 | i upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04 with commands
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| 10:42 | ltsp-manager 0.0.2-0ubuntu3, ltsp-server 5.2.1-0ubuntu9, ltsp-server-standalone 5.2.1-0ubuntu9, ltspfs 0.6.0-ubuntu1, python-ltsp 0.2-0ubuntu2
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| 10:43 | <mgariepy> what's your ltsp-build-client commands?
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| 10:44 | <coordinador> i dont know, i just follow the instructions from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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| 10:45 | <mgariepy> all you did was ltsp-build-client?
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| 10:46 | <[GuS]> guys, when try to build LTSP client on gentoo, i have this error: http://pastebin.com/fPE62Jd8 seems it cant extract the stage image.
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| 10:46 | <coordinador> i did everything except the 9.10 extra steps
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| 10:47 | <mgariepy> can you pastebin your /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-client.conf ?
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| 10:47 | <[GuS]> mgariepy: yes
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| 10:48 | <mgariepy> sorry [GuS] i was talkgin to coordinador ;)
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| 10:48 | <[GuS]> and in the script of quickstart i see: http://pastebin.com/CseZfLkW so far, nothing wrong
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| 10:48 | <coordinador> mgariepy, do you say that to me or gus?
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| 10:48 | oh
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| 10:48 | <mgariepy> [GuS], i never played with gentoo ltsp sorry
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| 10:48 | <[GuS]> ahh jeje
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| 10:49 | <coordinador> mgariepy, http://pastebin.com/zMVA5sxn
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| 10:49 | [GuS], me neither, never used ltsp+gentoo
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| 10:49 | <dberkholz> [GuS]: in modules/misc.sh, perhaps one use of ${tar_flags} (on line 30) has $(tar_flags) instead
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| 10:49 | <coordinador> sorry.
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| 10:50 | <dberkholz> tar_flags is clearly supposed to be a variable but this error message "tar_flags: command not found" suggests it's being called as a function
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| 10:51 | <[GuS]> exactly
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| 10:51 | is what i was thinkin
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| 10:51 | <mgariepy> coordinador, are you building a fat client or a thin client image ?
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| 10:52 | <coordinador> fat client, doing exactly the instructions on that page
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| 10:52 | <[GuS]> this is the misc.sh (Part) http://pastebin.com/CseZfLkW
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| 10:52 | <coordinador> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
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| 10:53 | mgariepy, apparently everything is ok because the installing continued after that error
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| 10:53 | now is unpacking and selecting packages
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| 10:53 | but that error has appeared many times and i dont know what does it mean
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| 10:54 | i ve looking in google but this error appeared in older ubuntu versions
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| 10:54 | in other circumstances.
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| 10:54 | <mgariepy> ok
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| 10:54 | i'm out for lunch now,
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| 10:54 | i guess the error is related to the chroot, and some stuff in /proc /dev not present.
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| 10:55 | <[GuS]> dberkholz: this is wrong: tar_flags = "xv"
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| 10:55 | should be tar_flags="xv"
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| 10:55 | without spaces.
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| 10:55 | <dberkholz> ah, someone's been writing too much python.
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| 10:55 | <[GuS]> indeed :P
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| 10:56 | <coordinador> ok mgariepy thank you very much anyways
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| 11:01 | * Kyle__ sighs. | |
| 11:02 | <Kyle__> student computer labs would be so much nicer without the students in them.
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| 11:03 | <[GuS]> :O
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| 11:04 | <Kyle__> [GuS]: Sorry, I just had a student ask for a new account, because she can't get into yahoo mail.
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| 11:04 | <[GuS]> damn!
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| 11:04 | then you are right :P
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| 11:05 | i used to have those kind of students... :S
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| 11:06 | <Kyle__> [GuS]: I even put them in their very own Windows VMs, so they can change everything they want, aren't locked down at all. And they still come up with junk like that.
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| 11:06 | <[GuS]> :(
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| 11:07 | <Kyle__> If they were asking for a haskell compiler, or R, or some way to scan excel files for data, then I'd be all over it.
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| 11:07 | <[GuS]> hehe
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| 11:20 | <coordinador> help pls, which file do i have to modify to disable "FAT_CLIENTS" option??
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| 11:27 | <Kyle__> coordinador: Err, I think it's how/when you build the image.
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| 11:28 | coordinador: edit the /etc/ltsp-build-client.conf, and take out the fat-client bits. Make a new image based on that ltsp-build-client.conf file
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| 11:30 | <coordinador> Kyle__, so you say that if i put a # in front of FAT_CLIENT_DESKTOPS="ubuntu-desktop" ...
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| 11:31 | ... my clients will be not fat , right?
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| 11:31 | <Kyle__> coordinador: You need to comment that out, and possibly your late-installs, and build a new image based on that file. ltps-build-image
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| 11:32 | <coordinador> ok, thank you
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| 11:32 | i will try,
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| 11:40 | <Kyle__> Hey alkisg.
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| 11:41 | <alkisg> Hi Kyle__, hi all
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| 11:41 | <Kyle__> Since I disabled the NBD-proxy, I haven't had a single lockup in either lab.
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| 11:43 | <alkisg> Kyle__: nice, add your experience to the bug report
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| 11:43 | <Kyle__> alkisg: I still don't quite follow how it caused the issue, just that it did.
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| 11:43 | <alkisg> I've seen nbd-proxy have multiple networking issues
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| 11:44 | * alkisg hopes it was only used in ltsp-cluster installations, not in the default ltsp installation... | |
| 11:44 | <Kyle__> I was gonna ask just that actually.
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| 11:47 | <[GuS]> Guys, is been like 45 mins that the process is in http://pastebin.com/K370Ujht (LTSP5 gentoo). Iirc, this didnt take so long.
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| 11:48 | and is not extracting anything
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| 11:48 | <Kyle__> [GuS]: Is it building a fat client image or something?
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| 11:48 | <[GuS]> nope
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| 11:49 | inside /opt/lts/x86 is empty, only the symlink to the stage3 image
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| 11:50 | <Kyle__> hum.
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| 11:52 | <dberkholz> sounds like you might want to try a little older quickstart
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| 11:53 | <[GuS]> dberkholz: indeed...
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| 11:59 | missing f arg in the tar...
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| 11:59 | who wrote this script? :P
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| 12:00 | arghhhhhh more and more problems... * could not set root password i will haev to use older quickstart...
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| 13:11 | <[GuS]> well... about the -m option, since chpasswd does not accept it anymore (same as -e), i've modified the script install_steps.sh to http://pastebin.com/ShLVDCQP
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| 13:11 | now does work
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| 13:35 | <johnny> [GuS], settings the root password is easy
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| 13:35 | you can just chroot
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| 13:35 | if tha'ts the only thing that failed , you're ok
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| 13:36 | <[GuS]> yes, the only one and fixed with that small modification
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| 13:57 | <johnny> hmm, i idn't know quickstart was still being updated
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| 14:06 | <[GuS]> :S
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| 14:07 | besides it has some sintax errors...
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| 14:08 | like the one mentioned earlier: tar_flags = "xv" also this is missing the f arg
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| 17:49 | <vagrantc> hrm. new ldm failed to build :(
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| 17:49 | will have to look into it later...
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| 20:24 | <kusanagi> hi, im creating an image and i get this error http://pastebin.com/xVwBd7xU
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| 20:24 | what can i do now?
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| 20:25 | it autoselects c (cancel)
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| 20:25 | <kusanagi> so i cant interact with it :S
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| 20:27 | i googled and this guy seems to have the same problem :S http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg38340.html
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| 20:37 | just a little tip showing me the right direction would be enough :S
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