IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 28 February 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:08 | <bakytn> please help!!! PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout
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| 02:08 | Why this could happen?
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| 02:08 | PLEASE :(
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| 02:08 | I don't understand what happened and happening
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| 02:08 | I tried to restart the server's including the whole server
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| 02:08 | clients are not booting
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| 02:11 | <mmetzger> bakytn: Did everything work properly recently? Anything change?
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| 02:11 | <bakytn> mmetzger, did nothing!
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| 02:12 | this is epic fail of mine. I am on lcietns side right now. Don't know what to do
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| 02:12 | I just tried to run ltsp-update-image again
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| 02:12 | no hlep
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| 02:12 | and SSH is crashing for some reasons just preventing access to it
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| 02:12 | even after /etc/init.d/ssh restart
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| 02:12 | OO
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| 02:13 | <mmetzger> ok, let's check a few things...
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| 02:13 | First, does the LTSP server have a firewall running?
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| 02:14 | <bakytn> I think not.
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| 02:15 | no
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| 02:15 | it doesn't have iptables running
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| 02:15 | <mmetzger> ok, good.
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| 02:15 | So are any of the clients still running / do you have another machine other than the LTSP server to test SSH with?
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| 02:16 | <bakytn> yes
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| 02:16 | if we can ignore ssh thing now
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| 02:16 | can we fix TFTP open timeout issue?
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| 02:16 | please...
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| 02:16 | :(
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| 02:16 | I hyou hlelp me. I will do everhytign for you
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| 02:16 | <mmetzger> No worries, let's see what we can do.
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| 02:16 | <bakytn> tftp server is running
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| 02:16 | root 587 0.0 0.0 14956 148 ? Ss 08:11 0:00 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd --listen --user tftp --address 0.0.0.0:69 --secure /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 02:16 | I tried to restart it
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| 02:17 | <mmetzger> Tried & it gave an error or tried and it loaded?
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| 02:17 | <bakytn> running fine!
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| 02:17 | restarting fine
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| 02:17 | <mmetzger> DHCP server?
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| 02:17 | <bakytn> sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart
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| 02:18 | DHCP is working! Client is getting it's IP
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| 02:18 | and just stuck on PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout
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| 02:18 | can't find proper logs to look into it
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| 02:18 | syslog is not showing anything suspicous
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| 02:19 | <mmetzger> Which distro?
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| 02:19 | <bakytn> Ubuntu 11.10
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| 02:19 | 32 bit
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| 02:20 | <mmetzger> just to verify, you have files like pxelinux.0 in /var/lib/tftpboot/lts?
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| 02:28 | <bakytn> yes
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| 02:28 | mmetzger, the problem was that some machine assigned itself the same IP as LTSP server
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| 02:28 | mmetzger, and all problems happened due this..
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| 02:29 | mmetzger, stupid thing ;(
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| 02:29 | mmetzger, THANK YOU!!!!!
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| 02:31 | <mmetzger> D'oh - stupid IP conflicts :)
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| 02:31 | Glad you found it
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| 02:33 | <bakytn> mmetzger, phew...I could die.
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| 02:33 | :)
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| 02:33 | just kidding.
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| 02:34 | <mmetzger> One of those things that will be forever seared in your troubleshooting mind :)
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| 02:43 | <bakytn> mmetzger, for sure.
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| 09:47 | <blackened> hi all
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| 09:47 | someone online?
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| 09:56 | <Hyperbyte> blackened!
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| 09:56 | !ask
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| 09:56 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 09:57 | <blackened> Hyperbyte: my LTSP client hang after "Starting LTSP client....." [OK]
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| 09:57 | I don't know how to check, but it work with laptop with better specs
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| 10:21 | <elias_a> blackened: Client specs? Processor, amount of memory, GPU?
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| 10:21 | Some standard PC or a thin client?
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| 10:24 | <blackened> elias_a: toshiba dynabook 1800, 256mb
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| 10:24 | <knipwim> did you check the logs in the chroot?
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| 10:25 | ldm and Xorg logs for instance
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| 10:25 | <blackened> in /opt/ltsp/i386/var/log?
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| 10:25 | I don't know where to check
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| 10:25 | <knipwim> yeah, while the client is running
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| 10:25 | <blackened> ok, let me see
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| 10:26 | <knipwim> you should ssh log into the client
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| 10:26 | and than check the /var/log
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| 10:27 | <blackened> I can't do anything in client side
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| 10:27 | because it is hangs
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| 10:27 | <knipwim> you can't login from the server?
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| 10:28 | <blackened> yes, I can login to the server
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| 10:28 | it seem, nothing has been log
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| 10:28 | <knipwim> i mean, when you're logged in on the server, can you login to the client via ssh?
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| 10:29 | <blackened> how to do that? regular ssh?
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| 10:30 | <elias_a> blackened: So the Toshiba is the non working one?
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| 10:30 | <blackened> yup
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| 10:32 | is it because the memory to low?
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| 10:33 | I already add noacpi noapic acpi=off nomodeset into pxelinux.cfg/default, but no luck
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| 10:34 | <knipwim> like ssh root@<client_ip> from a terminal on the server
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| 10:34 | don't know the default password for your distro though
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| 10:35 | <blackened> I'm using ubuntu
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| 10:36 | <elias_a> It's got 1GHz Pentium 3. Should it work?
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| 10:38 | <knipwim> i believe it should, i use similar thin client, with less memory even, 128mb
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| 10:42 | <alkisg> blackened: put SCREEN_07=shell in your lts.conf
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| 10:42 | This will give you a shell when the client boots, without X
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| 10:42 | Then there try: X -configure
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| 10:42 | This way you'll see if it's an X problem
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| 10:43 | <knipwim> smart, that's indeed a better debugging procedure
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| 10:47 | <blackened> alkisg: ok, I'l try now
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| 10:50 | <blackened> alkisg: still hang
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| 10:51 | alkisg: "starting LTSP client.." [OK] ....then hang
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| 10:51 | <elias_a> Does it boot to some OS?
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| 10:51 | I mean is the hardware OK?
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| 10:54 | <blackened> the hardware is fine
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| 10:55 | <elias_a> OK.
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| 10:56 | <alkisg> blackened: with the same lts.conf, boot your other client
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| 10:56 | If it boots to a shell, we'll make sure that the lts.conf variables actually reach your client
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| 10:56 | Because now it may be an additional problem with your lts.conf syntax or your tftp or dhcp servers
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| 10:57 | If your other client boots to a shell, then we'll know it's not a graphics problem (and also it's not a ram problem, your ram is enough to boot to X)
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| 10:57 | <blackened> with other laptop, it is fine, we got the desktop how up
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| 10:58 | <alkisg> blackened: if you got the desktop then you didn't set lts.conf properly
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| 10:58 | We didn't want a desktop
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| 10:58 | <alkisg> We wanted a shell
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| 10:58 | <alkisg> blackened: sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 10:58 | [Default]
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| 10:58 | SCREEN_07=shell
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| 10:58 | That what you should have, do you?
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| 11:00 | <blackened> I have done it, but no shell with toshiba, but I'm not yet check with my sony, the sony was fine, because it could directly go to the desktop, no hang
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| 11:00 | <alkisg> blackened: test with sony, this will tell us that your lts.conf, your tftp and your dhcpd configurations are fine
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| 11:01 | <blackened> ok, i'l try
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| 11:02 | <alkisg> The goal is to get a shell on the sony too. Not a desktop.
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| 11:09 | <blackened> alkisg: weird, I cannot get in into shell, but dell directly go into ldm (my sony in use, so I take my dell now)
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| 11:10 | <blackened> lts.conf is located in /var/lib/tftpboot/lts.conf
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| 11:11 | is it correct?
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| 11:12 | <muppis> No. /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/<arch>/lts.conf
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| 11:15 | <blackened> muppis: yes you right, in that place, sorry, but still not going to the shell
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| 11:19 | <blackened> muppis: alkisg: it has no effect
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| 11:21 | <muppis> blackened, you should check is it accessible by tftpd with this in server: grep lts.conf /var/log/syslog
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| 11:22 | <blackened> ok, I check it now
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| 11:23 | <alkisg> !tftp
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| 11:23 | <ltsp> alkisg: tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 11:23 | <alkisg> And there's also dhcpd.conf
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| 11:23 | And your lts.conf
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| 11:23 | Start by putting those 2 files in pastebin, your lts.conf and your dhcpd.conf
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| 11:23 | blackened: ^
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| 11:25 | <blackened> yup
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| 11:26 | I have difficulties paste the config, but my lts.conf is :
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| 11:26 | [Default]
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| 11:26 | SCREEN_07 = shell
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| 11:27 | <blackened> my server didn't connected to my laptop/internet
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| 11:29 | <alkisg> blackened: and the part about the "filename" from your dhcpd.conf...
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| 11:30 | <blackened> alkisg: /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 11:31 | <alkisg> blackened: there's no "if" around it?
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| 11:32 | <blackened> alkisg: no, just filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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| 11:32 | <alkisg> if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" {
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| 11:32 | filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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| 11:32 | } else {
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| 11:32 | filename "/ltsp/i386/nbi.img";
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| 11:32 | }
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| 11:32 | <alkisg> So you don't have that?
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| 11:34 | blackened: is it possible that you have 2 dhcp servers near your ltsp clients?
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| 11:34 | <blackened> no, I only test it in one komputer and one client
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| 11:35 | <alkisg> And you don't have that "if" that I pasted above?
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| 11:35 | <blackened> all laptop are pxe based boot rom, so I thought it is not neceserry to add nbi.img
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| 11:35 | <alkisg> It isn't necessary, but if you put it this way:
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| 11:36 | if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = "PXEClient" {
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| 11:36 | filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0";
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| 11:36 | } else {
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| 11:36 | }
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| 11:36 | <blackened> I also try directly to nbi.img, but it not even boot
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| 11:36 | <alkisg> ...then your clietn won't find lts.conf
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| 11:36 | That's why we're asking you to paste your whole dhcpd.conf, but you said you have no network connectivity...
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| 11:36 | <blackened> yes, maybe I can copy using flashdisk
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| 11:36 | wait a minute
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| 11:46 | <blackened> alkisg: here we go http://pastebin.com/krdwP633
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| 11:48 | alkisg: muppis: is there problem in my dhcpd.conf?
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| 11:51 | <muppis> blackened, not for me.
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| 11:52 | <blackened> and my lts.conf is only two lines [default] and SCREEN_07 = shell
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| 11:55 | <alkisg> blackened: I'm not sure about your dhcpd.conf, I think it's needlessly complicated and I don't know if it sends a boot filename when the client requests a second lease from initramfs. Anyway, let's move on.
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| 11:56 | !tftp
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| 11:56 | <ltsp> alkisg: tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 11:56 | <alkisg> In the troubleshooting page, there's an example about using an external pc to download lts.conf from your server
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| 11:56 | Try that
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| 11:56 | You'll need to boot your sony or whatever from a local OS to do that part of the troubleshooting
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| 11:56 | Live CD, whatever
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| 11:57 | Or, since SCREEN_02 doesn't work yet and you can't get a shell this way, you could unlock your root password in the chroot
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| 11:57 | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd; sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 11:58 | <blackened> run this line? tftp 10.160.31.10 -v -m binary -c get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 12:10 | <alkisg> blackened: yes, but use your server ip there
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| 12:12 | <alkisg> blackened: also, use /ltsp/i386/lts.conf instead of pxelinux.0
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| 12:13 | <blackened> alkisg: well...finaly, I edit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 12:13 | it works now
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| 12:13 | on my dell
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| 12:13 | <alkisg> So you got a shell now?
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| 12:13 | <blackened> I will try it on my toshiba
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| 12:13 | <alkisg> Yeah
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| 12:13 | <blackened> yes, it goes to the shell
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| 12:13 | <alkisg> You can also troubleshoot your tftp problem with that shell
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| 12:14 | <blackened> ok, I'l try
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| 12:14 | <alkisg> blackened: here's one command:
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| 12:14 | /usr/lib/klibc/bin/ipconfig -n eth0
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| 12:14 | Run that from your dell shell
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| 12:14 | And check what filename and server you get
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| 12:14 | <blackened> ok
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| 12:15 | <alkisg> We want: rootserver=your-server-ip, and filename=/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 12:16 | If you don't get that, it's a dhcpd.conf problem
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| 12:18 | <blackened> alkisg: the output is correct
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| 12:19 | and toshiba also now goes into the shell
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| 12:19 | :)
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| 12:19 | <alkisg> OK you still have a problem with lts.conf, but let's move on
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| 12:19 | Try: X -configure
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| 12:19 | On the toshiba
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| 12:19 | <blackened> ok
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| 12:20 | haha, after I run X -configure, the computer goes hang :D
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| 12:20 | <alkisg> So it's an X problem
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| 12:20 | Reboot, and run: lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
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| 12:20 | This will tell you the pci id and description of the graphics card
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| 12:20 | <blackened> yes you right, ok, I reboot again
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| 12:21 | <alkisg> For lts.conf again, when you boot, try this: tftp server -c get /ltsp/i386/lts.conf /tmp/lts.conf
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| 12:21 | Don't replace server with anything, leave it as is
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| 12:22 | Then check if you got /tmp/lts.conf
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| 12:22 | <blackened> ok
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| 12:26 | it is trident microsystem cyberblade/i1
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| 12:27 | <alkisg> pci-id?
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| 12:28 | [1234]:[5678]?
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| 12:28 | <blackened> 1023:8620
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| 12:28 | <alkisg> Which ubuntu version are you using?
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| 12:28 | <blackened> lucid
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| 12:28 | <alkisg> And, does it list a "driver in use" ?
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| 12:29 | <blackened> kernel modules:tridentfb
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| 12:29 | thats it
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| 12:29 | i got permission denied when running tftp get
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| 12:30 | <alkisg> Yes so it's supposedly supported
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| 12:30 | That's your tftp problem, check the permissions of lts.conf
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| 12:30 | ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 12:30 | <blackened> in server?
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| 12:30 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 12:31 | For the video issue, try: XSERVER=vesa in your lts.conf (after you fix the tftp problem)
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| 12:31 | <blackened> -rw-r-----
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| 12:31 | <alkisg> You need readable by "others" too
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| 12:31 | So chmod 644 'it
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| 12:31 | <blackened> ah..ok
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| 12:32 | ok
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| 12:32 | <alkisg> Finally, before setting XSERVER=vesa,
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| 12:32 | copy your /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the client, and put it to pastebin,
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| 12:32 | and ask in #ubuntu-x about the graphics problem
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| 12:33 | It's quite possible that installing a newer kernel in your chroot will fix the problem
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| 12:34 | Also try this in your pxelinux.cfg/default: video=tridentfb:800x600-16@75,noaccel
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| 12:34 | <blackened> should i run ltsp-update-image?
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| 12:35 | <alkisg> No
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| 12:40 | <blackened> XSERVER=vesa not working
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| 12:41 | video=tridentfb:800x600-16@75,noaccel <-- also not working
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| 12:41 | <alkisg> Is that with SCREEN_07=shell?
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| 12:41 | Did you fix the lts.conf problem?
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| 12:41 | <blackened> no, screen_07 has been delete
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| 12:41 | <blackened> lts.conf chmod already done
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| 12:41 | and it is now accessible and it is effect
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| 12:42 | trident cyberblade is one of difficult vga card to be setup in linux
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| 12:43 | <alkisg> Sounds like it :) Try also nomodeset as suggested previously, /me needs to go, good luck...
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| 12:43 | !nomodeset
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| 12:43 | <ltsp> alkisg: nomodeset: Unfortunately, Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) doesn't work well with some cards. To disable it, open /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and replace "quiet splash" with "nomodeset".
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| 12:43 | <blackened> alkisg: ok, thanks a lot
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| 12:59 | <mrcarrot> lts.conf has a few xrandr settings but actually no documentation on how to use them. could anyone point me to some documentation or help me how i get the equivalent of this command there: xrandr --output LVDS1 --of
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| 13:00 | s/--of/--off/
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| 13:07 | the official documentation is really comletely _worthless_
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| 13:07 | take this for example:
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| 13:07 | XRANDR_OUTPUT_01 ... XRANDR_OUTPUT_09
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| 13:07 | string, default unset
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| 13:08 | nobody gets happy to just know it is a string, what people want to know is what format this string has, can you disable with some commands in this string a certain output etc
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| 13:15 | i wonder why the developers did not have only one xrandr option called X_RANDR_COMMAND01..09 and you would set the whole xrandr command there instead of breaking it up into cryptic variables
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| 13:16 | for example X_RANDR_COMMAND01=xrandr --output LVDS1 --off
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| 13:23 | <knipwim> mrcarrot: i believe the docs are in the process of renewal since the 5.3 release
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| 13:23 | <mrcarrot> hmm... i solved my trouble by an "injection"
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| 13:23 | <knipwim> you could create a bug for it
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| 13:25 | <mrcarrot> i think the whole bug is that they have many xrandr variables when only one should be enough.... there are good documentation for xrandr, and with one variable they would not need to write much documentation as it would just run the command straight as you give it
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| 13:25 | <mrcarrot> XRANDR_COMMAND_01..09 should really be all everybody would ever want
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| 13:26 | s/all/what/
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| 13:26 | <knipwim> well, creating a bug would increase the chance, something will actually be done, whether explaining why all the vars are needed, are creating just one XRANDR_COMMAND
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| 13:27 | <mrcarrot> where do i report bugs?
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| 13:27 | <knipwim> !bugs
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| 13:27 | <ltsp> knipwim: Error: "bugs" is not a valid command.
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| 13:27 | <knipwim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 13:30 | <[GuS]> knipwim: Hi!
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| 13:30 | knipwim: I am about to install LTSP 5.3 in a new server right now :)
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| 13:31 | <knipwim> ok, good luck :)
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| 13:32 | <[GuS]> knipwim: :P
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| 13:32 | <knipwim> perhaps there will be a new release this week
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| 13:32 | <[GuS]> knipwim: i must add it to package.keywords right?
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| 13:32 | <knipwim> with ltsp-client-5.3
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| 13:33 | yes
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| 13:33 | <[GuS]> ok
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| 13:34 | knipwim: should i add quickstart and related to keywords as well?
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| 13:34 | <knipwim> no, that's stable
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| 13:35 | <[GuS]> ok
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| 14:06 | <andygraybeal> hi hi hi everyone
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| 14:22 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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| 14:22 | <highvoltage> good morning
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| 14:23 | <mgariepy> how are you doing?
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| 14:25 | <andygraybeal> ;)
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| 14:27 | <mrcarrot> bug report submitted...
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| 14:27 | <veloutin> now we all site and wait for mgariepy to fix it
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| 14:27 | sit*
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| 14:27 | <andygraybeal> hahah, what was the bug?
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| 14:28 | * veloutin shrugs | |
| 14:28 | <andygraybeal> ah yes, :)
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| 14:28 | <mrcarrot> andygraybeal: it is more of a "bug": https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/942608
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| 14:29 | <andygraybeal> aah configuration parameters
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| 14:29 | nice
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| 14:41 | <mgariepy> mrcarrot, for disabling lvds i usualy put a script in /usr/share/ltsp/screen-sesssion.d/XS20-my-lvds-issue
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| 14:41 | mrcarrot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/860594/
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| 14:43 | <asmok> highvoltage, good morning - have you seen this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp-cluster-lbserver/+bug/938034
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| 14:46 | <highvoltage> asmok: nope, thanks for pointing it out, I'll check it out
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| 14:52 | <asmok> highvoltage, another thing abot ltsp-cluster - I need to wget two files from bazaar: control-center.py and rdp%2Bldm.config
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| 14:55 | highvoltage, we talk about ltsp-cluster for 12.04 LTS? How reliable ltsp-cluster is for next five years if I need wget something?
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| 14:55 | <[GuS]> knipwim: first problem :P http://pastebin.com/7Z9f4XRA. I must add it to the quickstart profile.
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| 14:56 | <highvoltage> asmok: yep, I agree with you. mind filing a bug with the details? I might have to get an FFe for that but I'd like to get it as good as possible. I don't think ltsp-cluster itself will be marked for 5 years though.
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| 15:00 | <asmok> highvoltage, what do you mean? What I can say when people ask what kind of support ltsp-cluster have from Ubuntu community? Not same level as ltsp itself in Ubuntu?
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| 15:02 | <knipwim> [GuS]: hmm, that's new
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| 15:03 | <[GuS]> yeah
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| 15:04 | <highvoltage> asmok: for 12.04, it probably won't. (not ideal, but that's the honest answer)
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| 15:04 | <knipwim> 171-r5 is still masked on my pc
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| 15:05 | [GuS]: as root: nano /var/lib/layman/ltsp/profiles/ltsp/package.use
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| 15:05 | and add hwdb to the udev use flags
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| 15:05 | and then restart ltsp-build-client
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| 15:06 | <[GuS]> oks
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| 15:06 | <asmok> highvoltage, ok, I understand that.
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| 15:06 | <knipwim> [GuS]: going home now, will check in about an hour
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| 15:07 | <[GuS]> knipwim: ok! thanks
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| 15:07 | <asmok> highvoltage, any idea what happens to 'ltsp-cluter-lbserver' package. Everything else works to me, only that one package is broken.
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| 15:09 | <highvoltage> asmok: I'll try to a fix uploaded for that tonight. otherwise feel free to poke me again tomorrow.
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| 15:09 | <asmok> highvoltage, thank you, bye
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| 15:48 | <knipwim> [GuS]: still running without problems?
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| 15:48 | <[GuS]> knipwim: nope, failed in other section
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| 15:48 | i've sent you an email
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| 15:48 | Something bad i the stage
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| 15:49 | knipwim: http://pastebin.com/s2hLfym4
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| 15:49 | I am searchin on inet, but i have very slow connection today here at my work :S
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| 15:52 | <knipwim> are you running a clean install, without any left-over binary packages
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| 15:53 | <[GuS]> knipwim: I will re-check but i think yes. Let me see (is a new server)
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| 15:56 | <knipwim> weird, i completed an install last weekend, with the same pixman and automake version, no problems
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| 15:56 | what's your stage3 date?
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| 15:57 | <[GuS]> knipwim: 20120221
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| 15:58 | <knipwim> [GuS]: btw https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=400639
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| 15:58 | <[GuS]> wtf... my /usr/portage is empty :S
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| 15:59 | <knipwim> o crap, you did a ltsp-build-client --purge, while /usr/portage was still bind-mounted?
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| 15:59 | judging by the pastebin: umount: /opt/ltsp/i686/usr/portage: device is busy.
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| 16:00 | happened to me a few times
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| 16:00 | even removed my /dev several times
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| 16:01 | <[GuS]> yes... seems i did that :(
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| 16:01 | damn...
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| 16:02 | and now i dont have a profile also... grrrrrrrr
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| 16:02 | <knipwim> /usr/portage can be rebuild by doing an emerge --sync
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| 16:02 | <[GuS]> ok
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| 16:02 | <knipwim> check, no profile
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| 16:03 | ehm, download a portage snapshot
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| 16:03 | <xsl> is it possible to have on each LTSP Client an app like "conky" that displays the clients IP , hostname and login user
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| 16:04 | <knipwim> [GuS]: check your /dev as well (rebuild with MAKEDEV if needed, http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_MAKEDEV.htm)
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| 16:05 | <[GuS]> knipwim: ok
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| 16:05 | indeed.. is empty...
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| 16:13 | <knipwim> rebooted with a fresh /dev :)
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| 16:13 | <[GuS]> I wonder where is makedev command...
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| 16:13 | <knipwim> added the udev hwdb use to the overlay
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| 16:13 | [GuS]: with caps, like MAKEDEV, and execute after cd /dev
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| 16:14 | <[GuS]> knipwim: i know, i dont find it
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| 16:15 | <knipwim> try command -v MAKEDEV
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| 16:16 | <[GuS]> knipwim: does nothing
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| 16:16 | If i reboot? will regenerate dev right?
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| 16:16 | <knipwim> hmm
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| 16:16 | never tried that
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| 16:16 | it's weird you don't have MAKEDEV
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| 16:17 | it should be in /sbin
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| 16:17 | <[GuS]> nope... :S
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| 16:18 | <knipwim> you have sys-apps/makedev?
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| 16:20 | if not, first get a portage snapshot :)
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| 16:21 | <[GuS]> Yep, i am downloading it and copyying also the profile
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| 16:22 | <knipwim> [GuS]: then probably do an emerge --sync to get rid of the pixman automake problem
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| 16:23 | according to the bug report: "Move XORG_EAUTORECONF above inherit line to pick up dependencies wrt #400629"
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| 16:24 | so the updated pixman-0.24.0.ebuild should have the XORG_EAUTORECONF above the inherit line
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| 16:24 | to retrieve the needed dependencies
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| 16:24 | <[GuS]> ok
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| 16:25 | <knipwim> no need to check the ebuild, the emerge --sync will work
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| 16:25 | * [GuS] wishes to switch to debian :P | |
| 16:26 | <knipwim> then emerge sys-apps/makedev
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| 16:26 | like debian is bugfree
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| 16:26 | <[GuS]> ok, i am doing the sync yet
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| 16:26 | <knipwim> after emerging makedev, do cd /dev and use MAKEDEV to rebuild the dev files
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| 16:27 | <[GuS]> ok
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| 16:29 | knipwim: my boss is Gentoo lover... so will be dificult to switch to Debian :P
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| 16:29 | <knipwim> good to hear ;)
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| 16:29 | <[GuS]> haha
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| 16:29 | Also, the application they develop here, is made to work under Gentoo (at least server app side).
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| 16:30 | <knipwim> what are you developing?
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| 16:30 | <[GuS]> Kind of stupi***... since is Python/wxwidgets app...
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| 16:30 | knipwim: i am the tech support, even i am Python/Qt developer, i do not work as developer here. But as linux admin.
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| 16:31 | I work here since 2009... i have lot experience in other distros, most based on debian... but here gentoo was my first time... you can see that :P
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| 16:31 | <knipwim> no worries
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| 16:31 | <[GuS]> knipwim: also, the app has so many dead deps.. like wxmozilla....
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| 16:31 | <knipwim> since i've removed /usr/portage and /dev multiple times :S
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| 16:32 | i've become really paranoid on checking /proc/mounts before doing a --purge
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| 16:32 | <[GuS]> knipwim: hehe.. first time that happen to me... indeed i saw that was not umounted... but i've purged anyways the folder :S
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| 16:32 | knipwim: i will now haha :P
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| 16:32 | <knipwim> and how to solve it
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| 16:32 | <[GuS]> ok makedev is not installed, installing
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| 16:32 | <knipwim> the MAKEDEV stuff is pretty generic
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| 16:33 | <[GuS]> I mean, i dont have anything agaist Gentoo... but i think is not for this kind of implementation.
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| 16:33 | <knipwim> i only found out the dev was gone after i couldn't log in anymore
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| 16:33 | apparantly ssh uses /dev/urandom
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| 16:34 | luckily i had a connected term somewhere to regenerate
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| 16:34 | <[GuS]> indeed :D
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| 16:34 | Our clients wants always a quick response, and with gentoo we cant acchieve that most of the times...
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| 16:34 | And since the company does not "sells" a linux distro, we should switch... just my opinion.
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| 16:35 | <knipwim> you could sell preinstalled servers
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| 16:36 | <[GuS]> Well, the servers that we install to the clients if to run the server side app, and in many situations, LTSP
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| 16:36 | What i mean, and like this particular case, i always have new problems installing LTSP (this as one example)
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| 16:37 | MAKEDEV -d dir?
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| 16:37 | <knipwim> ehm
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| 16:37 | <[GuS]> MAKEDEV only does nothing, is asking for a param... time to read :P
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| 16:38 | <knipwim> cd /dev/ && MAKEDEV console (for instance)
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| 16:38 | just follow the man page instructions
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| 16:38 | <[GuS]> yep
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| 16:42 | knipwim: just rebooted and the devices are again :P
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| 16:42 | ok, back to ltsp.
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| 16:44 | <knipwim> [GuS]: going to get some groceries now, check ya later
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| 16:46 | <[GuS]> knipwim: ok! thanks again.
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| 17:14 | <knipwim> [GuS]: and back
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| 17:15 | <[GuS]> knipwim: so far is installing fine :)
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| 17:18 | <knipwim> vagrantc: can i tag a version in ltsp-trunk?
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| 17:18 | for a gentoo package release
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| 17:20 | <vagrantc> knipwim: our loosely agreed upon policy was "feel free to tag if it's useful to your distro"
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| 17:20 | <knipwim> check
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| 17:20 | <vagrantc> i personally prefer that people test before tagging, so we don't have ten "tags" in a single day...
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| 17:20 | <knipwim> perhaps there was some other work to be included this week
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| 17:21 | <vagrantc> knipwim: also, good to just give people a heads up in irc, but not necessarily wait for a response.
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| 17:21 | knipwim: so you're doing well :)
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| 17:21 | <knipwim> and i've tested the code last weekend :)
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| 17:22 | <vagrantc> knipwim: you've poked stgraber and alkisg ? dunno who else to poke.
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| 17:22 | * alkisg is planning on uploading some stuff about maintaining ltsp chroots in virtualbox or real clients, but needs cooperation from vagrantc and stgraber for some packaging stuff, so won't do anything for the next few days at least | |
| 17:22 | <knipwim> stgraber: planning to version tag ltsp-trunk
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| 17:23 | hmm, i think i'll wait then
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| 17:23 | <alkisg> knipwim: nah I don't think those will finish soon
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| 17:23 | <vagrantc> alkisg: what's left on that?
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| 17:23 | <knipwim> going on a week holiday on friday, so i'll wait for your version
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| 17:24 | <stgraber> knipwim: ok, Ubuntu is currently in beta freeze so I won't be touching LTSP until next week, I might tag another LTSP around that time
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| 17:24 | <vagrantc> knipwim: i'd go ahead and push what you've got, if it's working for you
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| 17:24 | <knipwim> stgraber: ok, waiting then
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| 17:24 | <vagrantc> hah.
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| 17:24 | knipwim: you're too like me :)
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| 17:24 | <alkisg> Haha
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| 17:24 | <knipwim> :)
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| 17:25 | <stgraber> knipwim: I said "might", if trunk works for you at the moment and you want to upload that, just go ahead and tag it :)
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| 17:25 | <alkisg> vagrantc: hmm I don't have all of it in my mind currently because I was working on epoptes the last days, we're planning on releasing a new epoptes tomorrow evening so I'll work on LTSP after that
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| 17:26 | <vagrantc> alkisg: should i ready a new debian upload, then?
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| 17:26 | <alkisg> Yes please, but not before tomorrow evening when we release it
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| 17:26 | <vagrantc> sure
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| 17:27 | <alkisg> We've fixed a couple of bugs, refactored+clean up the source, but 2 bugs remain that we want to get rid of
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| 17:27 | About LTSP, I'll do the smaller changes like deleting the local user accounts quickly,
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| 17:28 | but larger changes like e.g. using http://libguestfs.org/guestfish.1.html to access qemu and vbox images will take longer
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| 17:28 | (either qemu-nbd, or guestfish, or vdfuse, or a way to send the image from the running client to the server)
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| 17:31 | * knipwim tagged 5.3.3 | |
| 17:32 | * vagrantc really wants to re-write the kiosk stuff to do everything at runtime | |
| 17:33 | <vagrantc> short of package installs, although even that could be handled...
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| 17:44 | <gvy> alkisg, thx for mentioning vdfuse, looking at that (libguestfs took my attention)
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| 17:45 | <alkisg> gvy: I think qemu-nbd is a much better tool than vdfuse, maybe you want to explore that one first
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| 17:50 | <gvy> alkisg, thx^2
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| 21:54 | <trubbor> Hey - just wanted to see if anyone is monitoring this channel...
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| 22:01 | <rthomson> meow
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| 22:04 | <trubbor> Is this channel for help/questions - or just dev?
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| 22:09 | <Hyperbyte> trubbor, both!
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| 22:09 | More the first. :-)
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| 22:09 | Basically, what you want to do is ask your question, then stick around for a while.
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| 22:35 | <trubbor> Thanks Hyperbyte. Just getting started with an LTSP 5 setup. Haven't been on IRC in ages.
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| 22:36 | <Hyperbyte> Oh, be sure to lurk in here. :-)
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| 22:36 | You can learn a lot about LTSP from this channel'
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| 22:36 | s traffic
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| 22:36 | ...
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| 22:36 | * Hyperbyte goes to find some glue for that last sentence | |
| 22:38 | <||cw> yeah, whoever's briliant idea it was to put ' and enter right next to each other ought to be taken out and flogged with IBM model-M's
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