IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 1 September 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:32 | <peter92> how can i make sure the ltsp is handing out fat client images?
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| 02:43 | <PC-LTSP> i have been running Edubuntu ltsp trusty taher. i tried switching from thin client to fat client by following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients but it didn't run the fat client and i'm not sure what else to edit
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| 07:05 | <vsuojanen> people seem to come here with real issues but leave as soon as possible like hoping someone calls back them and resolves the 'ticket'
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| 07:07 | the channel topic is still best than average
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| 08:58 | <Hyperbyte> vsuojanen, curious isn't it.
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| 09:35 | <vsuojanen> I wonder where the answers come for these. maybe it's boot related and reboot resolves everything
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| 10:02 | <lauri> Hi, I have two Ubuntu 14.04 based LTSP servers here
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| 10:02 | on one of them ltspfs works and on the other it does not, the xprop atom is not set
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| 10:19 | "Couldn't read LTSPFS_TOKEN atom."
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| 11:02 | I think I've isolated the issue
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| 11:03 | http://apt-browse.org/browse/ubuntu/precise/main/i386/ltsp-client-core/5.3.7-0ubuntu2/file/usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-client-common-functions this file
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| 11:03 | on line 24
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| 11:03 | the sed expression
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| 11:03 | causes I10-dpms script to be executed
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| 11:03 | and none of the other xinitrc.d scripts
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| 11:10 | I think it has something to do with Estonian locale again :D
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| 11:12 | jep
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| 11:13 | I replaced LANG=et_EE.UTF-8 with LANG=C in terminal's /etc/default/locale and it's fixed
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| 11:53 | <vmlintu> lovely locale bugs..
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| 13:35 | <Vinylourson> hello everyone, I'm having troubles setting up my ltsp server. All is ok but one thing, there is no pxelinux.0 file in my /var/lib/tftp/ltsp/amd64/ folder
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| 13:35 | therefore my clients won't boot
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| 13:35 | has anyone encountered this problem ?
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| 13:41 | <lauri> Hi :D
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| 13:41 | which distro are you using?
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| 13:42 | I guess you're using non-LTS release of Ubuntu?
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| 13:42 | <Vinylourson> hi lauri , I'm using Xubuntu 15.04
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| 13:42 | exactly :D
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| 13:43 | you mean, reinstalling a LTS version would solve my problem?
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| 13:44 | <lauri> I am not LTSP dev, but I would reccommend not wasting time with non-LTS releases
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| 13:44 | switch to 14.04 and enjoy (mostly) working system
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| 13:45 | <Vinylourson> ok, I'll try that, sounds like a good advice, thx
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| 14:16 | <gothaggis> i'm having some problems with resolution and thin clients. not all thin clients have the same monitors - some square and some widescreen. recently have been testing dual monitor setups. it appears there is an issue with the square monitors with dual monitors. when they boot up, the login screen looks distorted - like GPU artifacting. then once you login, the background looks the same way. apps open up and look though. only happens on the sq
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| 14:16 | uare monitors and only when using 2. is there something i need to do to support different resolutions? not sure what to look into. I'm aware of x_mode in lts.conf but not sure exactly how it works or if that offers a solution
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| 15:14 | <alkisg> gothaggis: can you upload a print screen somewhere?
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| 15:15 | lauri: a bug report would help a lot
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| 15:15 | In some locales, A-Z doesn't mean "all english letters", and the code needs to respect that
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| 15:15 | !ltsp-bug
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| 15:15 | <ltsp`> ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 17:37 | <lauri> alkisg: thx
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| 17:54 | alkisg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1491066
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| 17:55 | alkisg: I hope this was enough :)
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| 17:57 | alkisg: I would like to contribute Estonian translations for LDM, what is the most appropriate way to do that?
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| 17:58 | * quinox was not aware of that, he never used anything else than a-z in his own scripts | |
| 17:58 | <vagrantc> lauri: i guess through launchpad?
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| 17:59 | https://translations.launchpad.net/
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| 18:02 | lauri: thanks for the bug report!
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| 18:05 | * vagrantc isn't sure [:alnum:] will actually work with all the various programs (sed, grep, expr, etc.) | |
| 18:05 | <vagrantc> tr ...
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| 18:07 | <lauri> I suppose you can use [abc...z] as a fallback :P
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| 18:07 | <vagrantc> maybe maybe selectively forcing the locale
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| 18:07 | LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 sed ...
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| 18:08 | <lauri> sed and grep has extended regex support if I am not mistaken
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| 18:09 | <vagrantc> well, a quick grep revealed tr, sed, expr
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| 18:10 | additionally, many of our scripts use "sort", which probably behaves very differently based on locale...
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| 18:10 | <lauri> yep :P
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| 18:10 | <vagrantc> and perl... wheee.
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| 18:10 | <lauri> are you talking about bzr branch lp:ltsp for translations?
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| 18:11 | or is there a separate repo for LDM
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| 18:11 | <vagrantc> there's some translation interface in launchpad ... but sure, you could just make pull requests
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| 18:11 | <lauri> Currently I can't find the place for LDM
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| 18:12 | lp:ltsp does not contain "Preferences" and other strings I see in the login window
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| 18:12 | <vagrantc> it's been a while since i've done any translation integration work ... it kind of "just happens" in the background
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| 18:12 | yeah, there's lp:~ltsp-upstream/ldm-trunk
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| 18:13 | <lauri> thanks (y)
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| 18:15 | <vagrantc> alkisg has done more with launchpad translations
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| 18:41 | <lauri> Okay I've got commit ready, which is the most appropriate way for pushing it?
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| 18:44 | <vagrantc> you can push a branch to launchpad and make a merge request ...
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| 18:45 | <lauri> ugh, going to take some time to get familiar with the process on launchpad/bzr
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| 18:46 | (I don't see a big [Fork] button at Launchpad)
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| 18:49 | <vagrantc> there's also supposedly a web interface to just translate the strings....
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| 18:49 | but working with any new system is kind of annoying, sure.
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| 18:55 | <lauri> http://askubuntu.com/questions/13547/how-to-create-a-personal-branch-in-launchpad I don't see the "Submit code" button for ldm-trunk
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| 18:56 | never mind, I found the web interface for translations
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| 19:22 | <lauri> https://translations.launchpad.net/ltsp/ldm-trunk/+lang/et it's green now :P
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| 19:23 | hopefully this will get merged for Ubuntu 16.04 ;)
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| 19:24 | <vagrantc> hope so
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| 19:24 | i'll get it into debian soon, and then ubuntu should sync it
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| 19:28 | <alkisg> lauri, cool, if you can also check this one: https://translations.launchpad.net/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/+lang/et
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| 19:28 | Clear the "needs review" status and translate the untranslated ones
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| 19:28 | Hrm, although many of the altlinux ones aren't really used anymore... :-/
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| 19:31 | <lauri> alkisg: I checked those as well
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| 19:31 | alkisg: I really don't see the point of translating ltsp-build-client scripts
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| 19:32 | sysadmin sees those messages like once in two years
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| 19:32 | <alkisg> np, if one needs them he can translate them
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| 19:32 | <vagrantc> or not at all.
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| 19:32 | <alkisg> I wouldn't mind having all the console messages in english
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| 19:32 | <vagrantc> other than testing that ltsp-build-client still works, i haven't used it in years
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| 19:33 | <lauri> for the sake of simplicity I would remove the opportunity of translating those messages
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| 19:33 | translated error messages = disaster IMHO
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| 19:33 | <alkisg> Some cultures really want their software to be translated though :)
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| 19:33 | <vagrantc> it's mostly translated --help output
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| 19:33 | <alkisg> Even the kernel messages...
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| 19:34 | <vagrantc> which seems more reasonable
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| 19:42 | <lauri> Btw, is Edubuntu going to switch to MATE for 16.04?
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| 19:43 | <alkisg> no idea... highvoltage, stgraber? ^
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| 19:43 | <highvoltage> if there is an edubuntu 16.04... then maybe
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| 19:43 | <lauri> Classic desktop is not provided for Unity anymore AFAIK
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| 19:44 | And GNOME has also taken path towards 3D compositing
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| 19:44 | We upgraded to 14.04 here and switched to MATE while doing so
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| 19:58 | <alkisg> lauri, gnome-flashback is still an option
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| 19:58 | I.e. the one that edubuntu 14.04 uses
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| 19:58 | There are a couple of developers working on it, although in a very slow pace...
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| 20:37 | <ltsp> i am running ltsp 14.04 and i am trying to run fat clients i have followed the Ubuntu wiki yet clients are still booting from thin clients instead of fat clients and i am not sure how to debug the problem
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