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00:08 | <amol> i have done till adding user in fuse group but at client side no event recognized after attaching usb
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00:18 | <johnny> broken usb port?
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00:37 | <vagrantc> i think the localdev debugging got trickier when we added the slight security mechanisms.
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02:27 | <Pascal_1> bonjour
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04:09 | <amol> cyberorg, to get login screen i installed ldm in chroot /opt/ltsp/i386..but due that ltsp-clien got removed
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04:09 | ltsp-client
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04:11 | cyberorg, due that client harddisk and local storage device are not getting detected..
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04:36 | <amol> ogra, hi
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04:36 | <Jarlo> Hello all, Im new to ltsp and ubuntu admin in general, I have a new thincan DBE60-1 which Ive added to config, when I fire up box I get a kernal panic -not syncing: Attempting to kill idle task, I have a newer model DBE61 working well on the network since install last week. Any ideas what I should do
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04:38 | <amol> ogra, local storage devices are not getting detected at client side..
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04:46 | <johnny> amol, talk to the room please
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04:46 | not a person
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04:46 | unless a conversation has already been started
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04:46 | <cyberorg> johnny talk to the hand eh?
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04:47 | <johnny> cyberorg, it's something i see over all sorts of rooms... folks need to learn nettiquette
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04:47 | <cyberorg> amol, you need ltspfs installed on the server, and many tiny details correct in the chroot
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04:48 | <johnny> ubuntu does a fine job with that tho
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04:55 | <amol> cyberorg, can you tell me tiny details??
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04:58 | <johnny> cyberorg, the last problem was that stuff wasn't even being seen on plug
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04:58 | via udev
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04:58 | err
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04:58 | before udev
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05:00 | <amol> i am not seeing any log event when i am plugging pen drive
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05:01 | but before installing ldm i was not getting login screen ..was able to access local hard disk and pen drive in terminal mode
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05:02 | after installing ldm automayically ltsp-client ltspfsd got removed..
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05:03 | now if i plug in pen drive on server that pen drive as well harddisk of server able to access
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05:03 | at client workstation
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05:05 | <johnny> ldm comes by defualt
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05:05 | why did you mess with it?
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05:05 | if i was you.. i'd regenerate a new chroot
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05:22 | <amol> johnny, means?? what i should i do?
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05:22 | regenerate new chroot?
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05:25 | <cyberorg> amol, look at all debian ltsp packages closely, what it installs in the server, in the client, what files it adds, modifies etc
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05:25 | just doing it trial and error is waste of your time
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05:26 | you can ask if you dont understand anything after you have gone through the list of pieces that makes ltsp and the files they install
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05:28 | <cyberorg> amol, some information is available here http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp that may help, although bit outdated
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05:28 | <amol> cyberorg, i am having one doubt..when i am craeting any doc where it should store on server /home/user/ or /opt/ltsp/i386/home/user/
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05:29 | ??
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05:29 | for me it is storing at /home/user/
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05:29 | <cyberorg> /home/user on the server
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05:30 | <amol> then why /opt/ltsp/i38x/home folder is created??
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05:30 | <cyberorg> for local device to work, ltspfs should be installed on the server, and ltspfsd should be running in the client
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05:30 | <amol> cyberorg, ltspfs in chroot enviornment or as ltsp-server?
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05:31 | <cyberorg> <cyberorg> for local device to work, ltspfs should be installed on the server, and ltspfsd should be running in the client
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05:35 | <johnny> amol, home can be used for local apps, which will be more easily available in future releases
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05:36 | amol, delete your /opt/ltsp/i386 and redo ltsp-build-client
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05:36 | <amol> what we wil happen after doing this??
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05:36 | once again generating tree will solve any problem?
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05:37 | <johnny> you broke it
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05:37 | <cyberorg> amol, all configurations are supposed to be done automatically when the client is built, manual intervention means messups
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05:38 | <johnny> by removing stuff or adding ldm or whatever you did
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05:38 | ldm should already be there, you're not supposed to install it
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08:02 | <Jarlo> ok will try again, and try and not offend anyone. I have a kernal panic issue with a thincan using ltsp 5. Could some one point in the right direction for docs that may help.
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08:03 | <cyberorg> Jarlo, may be you are missing some network module, there should be more information before kernel panic
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08:04 | network or other kernel module in initrd
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08:06 | <Jarlo> Thanks cyborg, module, my tech speak is limited. unknown boot option + 0 * 0/ *1e 0 then adhoc mac addresses
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08:07 | <jammcq> good morning friends
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08:07 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ByTheSea2008
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08:07 | if you are coming, please sign up
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08:08 | <Jarlo> I have the thincan in the dhcpd.conf with correct mac but?
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08:13 | <cliebow> I'M COMING!!
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08:17 | despite a long commute
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08:17 | <jammcq> hey cliebow
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08:17 | we'll be happy to have you there
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08:17 | <ogra> cliebow, fyling ?
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08:17 | *flying
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08:18 | <cliebow> yeah ;-]
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08:18 | <ogra> :)
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08:24 | <_UsUrPeR_> morning all! :D
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09:07 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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09:07 | <Q-FUNK> !s
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09:07 | <ltspbot`> Q-FUNK: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09:09 | <sbalneav> Morning Q-FUNK
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09:14 | <Petaris> Hi all
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09:14 | :)
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09:14 | <sbalneav> Hey Petaris
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09:14 | <Petaris> Hi sbalneav
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09:15 | <Petaris> Is there a way to have clients automatically login at boot with a pre-specified username?
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09:16 | <sbalneav> Yup
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09:16 | <Petaris> like student1, student2
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09:16 | ah, cool
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09:16 | <sbalneav> Are you talking LTSP5?
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09:16 | <Petaris> yes, kiwi-ltsp
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09:16 | MueKow
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09:16 | er, LTSP-5
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09:17 | <sbalneav> As far as I know, yes
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09:17 | <cyberorg> in lts.conf LDM_USERNAME = test LDM_PASSWORD = 123456 LDM_AUTOLOGIN = True
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09:17 | <sbalneav> Yep
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09:17 | <Petaris> ok,, then I just set the station by mac?
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09:17 | Hi cyberorg, didn't know you were in here
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09:18 | <cyberorg> Petaris, yes, if you have 11.0 installed, you can have easy-ltsp generate lts.conf
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09:18 | <Petaris> ahh, I am using SLED 10
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09:19 | <cyberorg> Petaris, copy in lts.conf generated elsewhere or manually edit /srv/tftpboot/KIWI/lts.conf
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09:19 | <Petaris> ok
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09:19 | I am in the lts.conf file now
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09:19 | already made a backup
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09:19 | ;)
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09:19 | <cyberorg> you can at least use easy-ltsp to look up all the variables that you can use, put the variables under [MAC] section
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09:20 | <Petaris> ok
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09:20 | then I just have to figure out how to find the mac addresses on the clients :)
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09:20 | <cyberorg> Petaris, /var/log/messages on the server
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09:23 | <Petaris> cyberorg: cool, thanks
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09:27 | <Petaris> Hi ogra
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09:27 | :)
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09:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> is anyone in here well-versed in java?
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09:29 | not java script, just java
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09:38 | <Gadi> !seen mistik1
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09:38 | <ltspbot`> Gadi: mistik1 was last seen in #ltsp 3 days, 9 hours, 48 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <mistik1> johnny: take it easy man
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09:38 | <Gadi> _UsUrPeR_: missed him by 3 and a half days...
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09:38 | :)
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09:39 | <Gadi> jammcq: does ltsp-discuss block emails with attachments?
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09:46 | So, someone on ltsp-discuss was looking for a way to restrict user from logging on to a particular machine, so I whipped up a script. I will pastebot for anyone here interested...
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09:46 | <ltsppbot> "Gadi" pasted "/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ldm/rc.d/S20restrictUser" (28 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/82
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10:01 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi: oh well. nothing super-imperative
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10:12 | <jammcq> Gadi: umm, yeah, I think it does block attachments
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10:14 | <Gadi> ah - that would explain it
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10:14 | :)
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10:15 | <jammcq> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ByTheSea2008
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10:15 | people need to sign up
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10:16 | <Gadi> done (for now)
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10:16 | <jammcq> awesome
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10:17 | the momentum is building
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10:17 | <Gadi> why is Local Apps on the agenda?
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10:17 | didn't we do that already :)
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10:17 | <jammcq> is it done?
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10:17 | <Gadi> well, ogra has to do his automagic piece (which, frankly, I still don't see how to handle cleanly)
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10:18 | <jammcq> well...
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10:18 | <Gadi> well, well...
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10:23 | * cliebow cliebow waits for email with twiki new pw\ | |
10:26 | <Gadi> jammcq: will you be driving through Portland?
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10:27 | <jammcq> possibly
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10:27 | we might come through canada and drop down into maine
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10:27 | <Gadi> ah
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10:27 | <jammcq> it's shorter to stay in canada longer
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10:28 | * Gadi weighs driving from NY vs. flying and renting a car | |
10:29 | <jammcq> i'm beginning to belive getting out on the open road isn't an east coast thing
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10:29 | * Gadi looks at price of gas... | |
10:29 | <Gadi> :)
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10:30 | <jammcq> believe me, I've seen the price of gas. I have 2 suburbans to keep on the road
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10:30 | <Gadi> how long is the drive for u?
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10:30 | for me, its ~7hrs
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10:31 | <jammcq> it's 1002 miles each way
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10:31 | and so far, I think there will be 4 of us in the car
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10:31 | <Gadi> thats a lot of open road
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10:31 | <jammcq> sure is
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10:33 | <Blinny> and a lot of closed car
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10:33 | <jammcq> Blinny: well, it's a big car
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10:33 | the guys can sit in back and watch some DVD's or something
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10:36 | <Blinny> No in-car coding??
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10:37 | <jammcq> i'm sure that'll be happening
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10:37 | <jammcq> they'll bring up IRC and chat amoungst themselves
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10:37 | <Blinny> Hook the wireless router up to the parabolic satellite intarwebnets dish on the roof!
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10:38 | and play some networked doom 1
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10:38 | <Q-FUNK> hm?
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10:39 | <Gadi> I love southwest harbor, but travel arrangements are always a pain
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10:39 | * Gadi should own a boat | |
10:39 | <jammcq> yeah, then we'd just drive to New York and get on your boat
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10:39 | and start rowing
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10:40 | <Gadi> I wonder how much it costs to fly into sw harbor
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10:40 | that'd be a trip
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10:40 | <jammcq> well, you'd have to charter a private plane
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10:41 | a great trip would be from that small airport near me
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10:41 | when I get my jet, that's what I'll do
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10:42 | <Gadi> BHB is only for charters?
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10:42 | <jammcq> well, I don't thnk there's any commercial flights there
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10:43 | <cliebow> BHB is served by Bar Harbor Airlines..prob quite pricey
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10:44 | <Gadi> well, it would take 3 hours and cost almost $700
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10:44 | :P
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10:44 | (on US air)
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10:44 | <cliebow> you "could" hitch aride with Martha Stewart..
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10:44 | <jammcq> what, through philly ?
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10:44 | <Gadi> thru BOS
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10:47 | cliebow: is there any public transportation to the seawall?
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10:47 | <cliebow> there is me ;-]
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10:47 | <Gadi> or cabs?
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10:47 | :)
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10:47 | <cliebow> lots o cabs
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10:48 | <Gadi> how much for a cab from Bangor airport?
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10:48 | <cliebow> errr..not sure...i might be able to come after you..
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10:48 | <Gadi> just wondering what the options are...
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10:49 | since there's always a car involved, it seems to almost always be easiest to drive from NY
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10:49 | <cliebow> i can find out..thursday??
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10:49 | <Gadi> (if not longest)
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12:31 | <Shane-S> anyone here familiar with the CentOS version of K12LTSP? I need VNC help
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12:32 | <Shane-S> specifically, I don't have a good workspace to perform tasks at the keyboard and mouse, as it is in a tight room without a KVM, I need to enable VNC access for root
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12:34 | <johnny> sounds not like an ltsp problem at all
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12:34 | but a general problem with centos
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12:34 | i mean.. not a problem with centos.. but it doesn't sound ltsp related
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12:34 | just a normal centos configuration thing
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12:36 | <Shane-S> well I asked here, because #k12ltsp displays an error message on its custom login screen, but I can't read it
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12:36 | and it is customized beyond the normal centOS I think, but not sure, just not trying it, and can't find what I need on their Wiki so far
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12:37 | I will keep playing at least I am in as the account I created during install
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12:49 | <Blinny> Shane-S: I used to run the Fedora version of K12 - What is the problem?
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12:49 | <Shane-S> I wanted to VNC in as root, but says that login is not allowed
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12:50 | I am in as the admin user I made during the install, but the root account has more tools available
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12:52 | <johnny> i personally just ssh in and do all my work that way.. i don't even know how to use vnc :(
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12:54 | <Shane-S> yeah, they just have nice scripts and stuf on the root desktop to copy icons to users desktops and everything
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12:55 | I am just now fianlly going to try and use it as I have a server that can handle my 15 clients
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12:58 | guess it is a centOS thing, just tried to gedit a file after su root, and it fails to launch
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13:06 | <stgraber> jammcq: hey, jcastro told me you could be interested in having a look at https://wiki.stgraber.org/LTSP-Cluster (work in progress)
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13:08 | <Blinny> Shane-S: Sorry, I've never turned on remote root login through VNC. Maybe under System->Administration->...?
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13:09 | Shane-S: And, to be honest, I wouldn't. Why not use something like FreeNX instead, so at least you get some encryption in the mix?
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13:09 | <Shane-S> its not a big deal, I just need to edit the config file and I can't really fit in my closet, I might just have to work with vim
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13:09 | <Blinny> Shane-S: Either way, you'll have better luck in #centos
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13:10 | Shane-S: If vim scares you, use pico/nano
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13:12 | <Shane-S> is nano pico?
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13:12 | <johnny> no
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13:12 | <Shane-S> cause pico isnt on there
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13:12 | <johnny> it's a pico clone
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13:12 | but open source
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13:12 | <Shane-S> ok
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13:12 | thanks
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13:13 | <johnny> some systems link the binaries so both names work
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13:16 | <Petaris> cyberorg: I am having trouble with the automatic login, could you look at my lts.conf and see if I am doing something wrong? I am going off of the easy-ltsp docs and ltsp.org
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13:16 | http://phpfi.com/354919
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13:17 | <cyberorg> Petaris, looks good to me, does writing MAC in all caps make any difference?
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13:17 | <Petaris> not sure, according to the docs it shouldn't
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13:18 | but I will give it a try
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13:18 | <cyberorg> Petaris, this is /srv/tftpboot/KIWI/lts.conf ?
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13:18 | <Petaris> yes
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13:18 | it causes it to just blink at boot
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13:19 | just like it did before the CONFIGURE_X=True was in there
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13:19 | <cyberorg> at what point?
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13:20 | <Petaris> nope, that didn't change anything
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13:20 | at the point of starting X
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13:21 | <cyberorg> did you check if the username and password are valid by doing ssh from another machine?
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13:21 | <Petaris> yeah, its valid
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13:21 | though it asks me for an NDS password too
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13:21 | hrm
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13:22 | <cyberorg> Petaris, you should be able to log in using just provided username and password
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13:22 | <Petaris> right
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13:22 | <cyberorg> ldm autologin with work only then
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13:30 | <Petaris> ok
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13:31 | had to modify /etc/pam.d/sshd and remove the pam_nam.so stuff
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13:31 | but it boots and logs in now
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13:31 | Thanks cyberorg
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13:31 | :)
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13:32 | <cyberorg> mention somewhere in troubleshooting
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13:32 | <Petaris> ok
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13:33 | <Petaris> not sure it should go on the LTSP/SLED one as it won't be experienced by people who haven't been trying to get novell logins to work
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13:34 | <cyberorg> Petaris, just autologin troubleshooting, how to test details
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13:34 | <Petaris> ahh
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13:34 | ok
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13:35 | Is there a page for autologin yet?
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13:35 | <cyberorg> nope, just add http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Troubleshooting
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13:35 | <Petaris> ahh, ok
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13:35 | will do
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13:35 | <cyberorg> autologin should not have many trouble to fill its own wiki page :)
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13:41 | <Petaris> cyberorg: But maybe it should have its own page for walking through setup, or a section on another page.
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13:41 | Anyway that page is updated
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13:48 | cyberorg: How can I set xfce as the default desktop?
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13:48 | I tried update-alterntives but it doesn't let me change it
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15:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey guys, if I am running gnome on my server, and I want to try KDE out on a client, what should I change?
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15:46 | this is pertaining to Fedora
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15:46 | the ltsp-client-launch doesn't have a Desktop="gdm" line in there
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15:48 | and /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/sysconfig/desktop refers to this: DISPLAYMANAGER=/usr/sbin/ltsp-client-launch
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15:50 | <johnny> it doesn't use gdm
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15:50 | it uses ldm
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15:51 | set it on your server
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15:51 | if you know the proper session starter
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15:51 | you can add LDM_SESSION
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15:51 | with the path
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15:51 | to your lts.conf
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15:55 | <Lns> Didn't someone just ask this on the list?
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15:55 | I think you need to set your default x-session-manager via the
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15:55 | update-alternatives command to default to KDE. That should do it. - Scott
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15:56 | <johnny> hmm.. anybody wanna trade work for 3 thin clients ? or donate to a non profit? :)
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15:57 | 3 thin clients that can run firefox and flash locally that is..
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16:25 | <Vplug> someone speaks italian
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