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02:28 | <gnunux> hi
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04:32 | <garymc> Hi Peeps, im trying to backup files onto a DVD using my laptop booted via ethernet to the Ubuntu Server but the DVD writer in my laptop wont work
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04:41 | <Gremble> that's what one would expect without some setup garymc
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04:41 | <garymc> So what do I need to do to get this Laptops DVD burner working?
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04:41 | <Gremble> sorry, not sure for LTSP-5
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04:41 | <garymc> ok
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04:42 | <Gremble> if you are using a standalone bit of burning software, running it as a local app might work
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04:42 | though there may be addition config
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04:44 | <garymc> hmmm
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04:46 | <johnny> garymc, you should probably use a full fat client setup if you want it to work the easiest way
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04:46 | if your laptop has at least 256mb ram
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04:47 | then everything (except login/auth) is local
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04:47 | <garymc> Im trying to save 4gb of data off the server onto DVD
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04:47 | <johnny> and no dvd drive in the server?
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04:47 | <garymc> i dont understand what you mean johnny
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04:47 | <johnny> fat clients
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04:47 | use em
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04:47 | simple
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04:47 | !fat-client
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04:47 | <ltspbot> johnny: Error: "fat-client" is not a valid command.
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04:47 | <johnny> !fat
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04:47 | <ltspbot> johnny: Error: "fat" is not a valid command.
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04:47 | <johnny> !fatclient
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04:47 | <ltspbot> johnny: Error: "fatclient" is not a valid command.
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04:47 | <johnny> ah.. alkisg isn't here
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04:48 | fat clients are where the entire OS runs locally, but downloaded the same way as normal ltsp
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04:48 | it's just more
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04:48 | and then it logs you into a local session instead of on the server
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04:48 | but that probably won't work if your data is on the server directly
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04:48 | so.. instead
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04:48 | google ssh burn cd
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04:49 | there are some examples to run the command line burner software while pulling the data to be burned from the remote system
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05:17 | <garymc> ok
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05:21 | so theres no way I can use the DVD burner on my laptop. Even though it reads CDs onto my server from the laptop?
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08:13 | <m4xx> i've finally got dual monitors set up on my thin clien, once i log in everything is great, however at the login screen the form is centered between the two monitors. I've read on a mailing list that this was a known issue. has this ever been solved?
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08:13 | <robehend1> m4xx: I've never got it working, myself. same issue. Heck, I've had that before with a full install on a laptop using NVidia drivers
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08:14 | <m4xx> =[
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08:15 | i was hoping there was something that i could do with greeter-gtkrc =[
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08:18 | <robehend1> very well may, but not that i know of
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08:18 | i can barely trust my students with one monitor, let alone 2
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08:18 | <m4xx> lol
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08:18 | i can say the same thing but with grown ass "men"
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08:19 | <robehend1> ha
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08:19 | the worst day i remember is when they discoverd that pencil graphite is conductive
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08:19 | lost 7 motherboards that day
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08:22 | <m4xx> why are there exposed motherboards?
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08:28 | <robehend1> there isnt. They shoved it through the ventilation holes in the back of the machine, and then shook it around until it settled
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08:28 | <m4xx> lol
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08:28 | <nubae> terrorists :-)
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08:28 | <m4xx> did you let the magic smoke out? cause once you do it will never work again.
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08:28 | <robehend1> which leads me to my 1st law of k-12 computing
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08:28 | If it is breakable, students will break it
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08:29 | <nubae> yah indeed, thats why thinclients without anything but usb and vga outputs rock
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08:29 | <robehend1> which is what we're going to
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08:29 | slowly but surely
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08:30 | at least, if the board decides not to overturn their decision now that MS has been talking to them, full of FUD
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08:30 | <m4xx> hmm
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08:32 | <robehend1> Say, does anyone know of a version of the oldschool Oregon Trail that runs nicely on linux?
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08:32 | I'm wanting my students to learn the joys of dying of dysentery while fording the river.
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08:33 | <m4xx> nice
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08:33 | <nubae> I say sacrifice one student for the benefit of the others :-)
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08:33 | <robehend1> i've found the emulator for Apple IIe that runs well, but i was hoping for a native solution
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08:36 | <nubae> greets alkisg
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08:37 | <robehend1> alkisg: I'm seeing drastically increased loading times after adding all the IP's to /etc/hosts
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08:38 | alkisg: er, decreased loading, decreased. note to self: more coffee
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08:38 | <nubae> sure... no ip lookups = speed
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08:38 | <robehend1> :D
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08:39 | i think with that, and if i can track down Gadi to help me with hooking up my server apps and localapps more in concert, I'll be 100% set to go talk to the board again
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08:40 | <nubae> ah... u're running ltsp across several servers?
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08:40 | <robehend1> at the moment, no. one big old server
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08:40 | i'm not having disk problems, yet, however
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08:40 | <nubae> oh, I thought u meant u were running apps on a seperate server from users and such
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08:41 | <robehend1> no, i was getting delays at login. LDM would pop up, they'd login, it would authenticate, and then gnome would take ages, 30-45 seconds, to come up
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08:41 | <nubae> how many clients?
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08:41 | <robehend1> 50 atm
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08:41 | <alkisg> Hi nubae, long time no see, how are you? Hi robehend1, good to hear
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08:41 | <robehend1> running a lab and our media center
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08:42 | <nubae> alkisg: yeah it has been a while... I've been studying for CISA (certified information systems auditor)
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08:42 | trying to get better job opportunities
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08:42 | <alkisg> Ah, nice, are those some kind of exams? Did you pass?
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08:43 | robehend1: just curious, if you have a lot of localapps and stuff, did you try fat clients? They may suit you better if your clients are up to it...
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08:43 | <nubae> havent taken the exam yet, but getting most test questions right, so soon... unfortunately, I think I have to wait until May to take the exam, since they only do it 2 times a year
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08:43 | anyway, its relatively straight forward, and job opportunities are really good in that sector
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08:44 | how bout you, what u been up to?
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08:44 | whats new in LTSP?
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08:46 | <robehend1> alkisg: Clients arent up to it, sadly. I tried, and performance wasnt comparable.
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08:46 | <alkisg> nubae: LDM has been almost rewritten recently, but I'm mostly doing my phd nowadays so I'm not really up to date with LTSP
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08:46 | <robehend1> is CISA a CompTIA test as well? Espicially since between them and Pearson, then seem to own the USA testing market
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08:47 | <alkisg> robehend1: fat client performance should be about the same as booting the os from a local disk... what are your client specs, cpu/ram, and do you have a gigabit network?
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08:47 | <nubae> well, I downloaded the CBT nugget package
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08:47 | not sure if compTIA does it too, but probably
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08:47 | <robehend1> alkisg: 1st gen celeron 1.2ghz, 256 meg ram, and 100 network
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08:48 | <alkisg> Ah then no, that's not good enough to boot a recent os locally :)
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08:48 | The ubuntu minimum requirements nowadays say 1 GB RAM...
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08:48 | <robehend1> hehe yep. it worked wonderfully on my Pent D's with 2 gigs of ram and gig network, but sadly, those are the windows boxes
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08:48 | I'm suprised by that. I've got 10.10 on some Celeron D's with 512 and it runs nicely, as long as I dont screw with compiz
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08:49 | <alkisg> 512 is the minimum "for advanced users"
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08:49 | Novice users (the ubuntu site says) might be frustrated with < 1 Gb RAM
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08:49 | <nubae> really, 1 gb... that's crazy
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08:50 | 2 years ago, we could get by on 256 without any problems
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08:50 | <alkisg> $ ps aux|grep firefox-bin
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08:50 | alkisg 2003 1.9 3.9 519216 163208 ? Sl 07:29 10:54 /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.13/firefox-bin
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08:50 | 512 MB just for the browser :)
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08:50 | <evil_root> hey the more you move away from command line, the more ram you waist
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08:50 | <nubae> bloatware
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08:50 | indeed, hear hear evil_root
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08:51 | <robehend1> well if they werent worried about it looking pretty and running 20 different tabs in firefox with flash running while streaming audio through rythimbox, it wouldnt be a problem
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08:51 | <nubae> I always fantasised about a command line based ltsp setting... it would be graphics based, but just ascii and colour terminal based
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08:51 | would be awsome
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08:51 | <muppis> nubae, done that. :)
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08:52 | <robehend1> my students are terrified when i boot into command line. they think i'm going to break it
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08:52 | <nubae> muppis: well where is it? did u create a plugin for ltsp? :-)
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08:52 | <robehend1> or that i'm playing a trick on them, becuase, and I quote, "No one could use that, its stupid!"
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08:52 | <nubae> yeah, the 'its stupid' comment I've heard too often from students when using Linux in general
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08:53 | <muppis> nubae, no. It's just basic ltsp with X on basic ubuntu-server. Nothing special.
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08:53 | <robehend1> just cuz it wont run World of warcraft doesnt mean its bad
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08:54 | even though i think wine lets you do that too, now
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08:54 | <nubae> ah... I just remember back when DOS was at its peak, there were some nice shells that were graphical in nature and that u could choose various options to run programs by typing in a number or letter
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08:54 | <evil_root> i will confirm running warcraft threw the ltsp
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08:54 | warcraft 3 and wow
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08:54 | <nubae> it made me think would be nice to do something similar for ltsp
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08:54 | <evil_root> it was a fat client though
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08:54 | <robehend1> we played a trick on our students last april fools.
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08:55 | Booted all of the windows machines to a command prompt
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08:55 | it was chaos.
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08:55 | <evil_root> lol
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08:55 | <muppis> robehend1, cool.
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08:55 | <robehend1> all except for the one kid who knew how to use "net send"
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08:55 | he was a king, that day
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08:59 | <muppis> Sure. We used net send a lot at school. It was fun to fool teacher.
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09:02 | Specially when done from other classroom and viewing reactions from webcam.
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11:27 | <knipwim> Is lp:~ltsp-docwriters/ltsp/ltsp-docs-trunk going to be tagged as 5.2.5 as well?
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11:30 | <robehend1> Gadi: Hey, did you ever get that localapps integration thing working that you were talking about? The one that let my server-installed pdf viewer work through a local app firefox downloads window?
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11:35 | <Gadi> robehend1: yeah - I think stgraber has a lucid package
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11:36 | <robehend1> Gadi: Ooo, happen to have a ppa and package name for me? I'd love to test
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11:36 | <Gadi> I need to find out what ppa he has it in
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11:38 | <Pascal_1> hello
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11:38 | <robehend1> well hello
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11:38 | <Pascal_1> does somebody could told me where i could find documentation about ltsp and ldap authentication + samba home directory ?
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11:39 | <robehend1> lemme see if that wiki link is updated. I just had to do that myself earlier this year
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11:39 | Pascal_1: Are you wanting the entire home directory off of samba, or just a mounted samba drive.
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11:40 | <Pascal_1> i need that each user coul mount there home directory
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11:40 | <Gadi> robehend1: it might be here: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/revolution-linux/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
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11:40 | <robehend1> their active directory home directory?
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11:41 | <Pascal_1> actually each user are authenticated on an ldap server to access to there home directory on samba
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11:41 | no active directory
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11:41 | <Gadi> robehend1: put that in your chroot's sources.list, update, install "ltsp-client" and "ltsp-client-core", update the image
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11:41 | <robehend1> Gadi: Hmm, alright. so its included in the client, not a localapp plugin or something?
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11:41 | <Gadi> nope - localapps is part of ltsp
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11:42 | <robehend1> Pascal_1: Not sure i can help ya then, sorry. I just use libpam_mount to mount folders at login, and likewise to authenticate to an AD
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11:42 | <m4xx> might it be possible to use a gdm.conf to fix my login form issue?
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11:42 | <robehend1> Gadi: any breaking chance, or is it safe to deploy on live systems. Well, a more than usual breaking chanc,e that is
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11:43 | <Gadi> robehend1: you can always reinstall the original :)
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11:43 | <robehend1> haha nice
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11:43 | means I'll be trying over christmas, when i dont have kids ;)
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11:43 | <Pascal_1> robehend1: it could interess me
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11:43 | sorry for my poor english
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11:43 | <robehend1> Pascal_1: no problem. try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ActiveDirectoryIntegration
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11:43 | <Pascal_1> robehend1: i made a try before and i had a lot of problem with pam
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11:44 | i think i dont understand everything about pam
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11:44 | ;-)
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11:44 | <robehend1> Pascal_1: shows you basic AD integration through likewise, and some basic pam mounts. beyond that, i just had to tweak to fit my setup
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11:45 | Gadi: say, thought. I've got 2 chroots, one for test, and one for actual usage. can i just put this thing in my test chroot, see what happens, and then apply to the live one if needed?
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11:46 | <Gadi> robehend1: what you do with your chroots on your own time... ;)
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11:46 | <robehend1> haha
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11:47 | <m4xx> Gadi, if i may bother you. I've got dual monitors set up on my thin client, when i login everything is beautiful, but my login screen is centered between the two monitors. I read in the mailing list that this is a known issue. Did you ever come up with a solution?
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11:47 | <Gadi> robehend1: make sure you add REMOTE_APPS=True to lts.conf
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11:48 | <robehend1> Gadi: will do
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11:48 | <Gadi> m4xx: yeah, unfortunately the current greeter has positioning hard coded to center
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11:48 | m4xx: which, on dual monitor comes out funny
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11:49 | m4xx: so, the quick and dirty way is to edit the greeter code and make ur own package, say , with the box on the right
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11:49 | <robehend1> Gadi: Say, added that ppa to my sources.list and am getting W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 72714DCDB4DBDF00
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11:50 | <Gadi> m4xx: the better way would be if we could run the greeter on :7.0 , as opposed to :7
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11:50 | and have it do the right thing
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11:50 | <Gadi> haven't looked at the problem in years
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11:51 | robehend1: yeah, just warning you that you don't have rev linux's key to authenticate the packages
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11:51 | robehend1: so, it will say, are you sure you trust this?
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11:51 | <robehend1> ah, that makes sense then.
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11:51 | <Gadi> robehend1: you just say: yes, Gadi gave it to me
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11:51 | robehend1: and I trust him implicitly
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11:51 | <robehend1> i'll add that into my bash scripts
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11:52 | <Gadi> there is a flag for apt-get to answer that way automatically
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11:52 | :)
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11:52 | <robehend1> heh, think i'll leave it off, incase i screw something up one day.
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11:53 | i'm good at that
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11:54 | <Gadi> m4xx: what you may not know is that there is a secret lts.conf param, LDM_GREETER that can be set to point to an alternate ldmgtkgreet
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11:55 | m4xx: so one *could* have a dualhead greeter just for the dualhead
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12:11 | <m4xx> gadi, any chance of you pointing me to some doc's on the matter?
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12:45 | <robehend1> can one copy a currently working chroot, give it a different name, and use it for testing? I.e. take my i386 chroot, copy it as i386v2, and use that as my test chroot?
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12:47 | <johnny> mostly yes
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12:47 | as long as you change your nbd/nfs/dhcp/whatever t point it it
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12:48 | <robehend1> ah nice.
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12:48 | <johnny> i've done that more than a few times in the past
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12:48 | <robehend1> johnny: so, basically, copy it with a new name, change my dhcp to point to the new chroot, and boom bang wo?
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12:50 | <johnny> and whatever tells it to mount the remote fs
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12:50 | <robehend1> ah kk
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12:51 | <johnny> like.. on ubuntu, adding another line to the /etc/inetd.conf file to tell it to do the other chroot
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12:51 | adding another port
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12:51 | and then editing the kernel command line of the pxeboot
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12:52 | there are docs for that
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12:52 | should be able to find it on a search engine
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12:52 | <robehend1> coolio. I'm gonna have to look into this more, but now that i have direction, it should be easier. thanks!
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13:06 | <robehend1> has anyone had any *real* kind of luck running PPC machines as thinclients? I keep looking at this stack of g3 imacs..
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13:07 | <alkisg> Does this flash video speedup affect linux too? http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2010/12/flash-video-gets-dramatically-more-efficient.html
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13:08 | <robehend1> alkisg: 10.2 is still in beta, i think the repository one is still 10.1
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13:09 | <alkisg> Sure, but once it's out, will we finally get less cpu usage for flash video on linux?
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13:09 | Or is it windows-specific?
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13:09 | <robehend1> it depends on the gpu drivers, i believe, since the are handing off alot of the encoding to the GPU instead of the CPU
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13:11 | <johnny> robehend1, i woudn't bother
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13:11 | they won't be ableto run modern applications
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13:11 | <robehend1> johnny: even if i have about 0 of the things stacked here?
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13:11 | <johnny> 0? :)
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13:11 | <robehend1> johnny: er, 80
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13:11 | <johnny> yep
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13:12 | gonna be more troube than they are worth
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13:12 | that us.. unless you wanna stick to console applications
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13:12 | if you do.. then you'll be fine
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13:12 | <robehend1> darn. was hoping i could slap Gcompris on them and let em loose in my elementary
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13:12 | <johnny> no way
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13:12 | that would be impossible
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13:12 | also it's really complicated to set them up
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13:12 | <robehend1> there not bad for what they are. 400 mhz, 256-386 megs ram, but ya
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13:13 | <johnny> hhmm.. are they really 256mb ram??
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13:13 | <robehend1> yep. i updated em 5 years ago from 128
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13:13 | <johnny> all of em?
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13:13 | <robehend1> mhmm
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13:13 | <johnny> ah.. you might be able to use those
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13:13 | i didn't know they were upgradable
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13:13 | <robehend1> ram was the *only* thing upgradeable about these beasts..
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13:13 | <johnny> pretty sure the ones i used to run at my store wee 64 or so
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13:14 | <robehend1> well, the g3 imacs went through alot of renditions, remember
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13:14 | <johnny> oh.. you'll probaby be just fine
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13:14 | i must have had the earliest of the early
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13:14 | i don't actually know, since i only had one
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13:14 | <robehend1> your probably thinking of the g3 emacs, which were the first ones i think..OS 8.1 and 64 megs
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13:14 | <johnny> but you will have to build the first chroot one one of the boxes themselves
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13:14 | and all upgrades will have to be built on the boxes too
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13:14 | so you'll want to install linux one of them, and then install the chroot
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13:15 | <robehend1> ah
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13:15 | <johnny> and then copy it to the server
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13:15 | <robehend1> and then copy the chroot over to the server, change the mounts, and go from there
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13:15 | <johnny> yes that'll work
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13:15 | you sure have plenty of ram
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13:15 | but.. there's no guarantee of stability of the ppc ubuntu port
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13:15 | since it's no longer official
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13:16 | <robehend1> well, thats good to hear. sounding like a summer project, however
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13:16 | <johnny> or availabiliyt of reasonable packages, bu you should be able to find out that rather quickly
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13:22 | <robehend1> well stil worth a shot before i junk em
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13:22 | <alkisg> Won't a debian chroot work with an ubuntu server?
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13:23 | <robehend1> no clue, never tried
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13:24 | though i am pleased that I was able to pick up some cheap boxes that should make good LTSP servers. woo refurbished units
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14:54 | <priyank> W: Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 /sbin/ldconfig
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14:54 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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14:54 | what should i do
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14:54 | when i perform sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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14:54 | [sudo] password for priyank:
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14:55 | groups: cannot find name for group ID 0
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15:06 | <robehend1> priyank: Do you have sudoer permission?
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15:08 | <priyank> ya i have
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15:08 | <alkisg> priyank: if ltsp-build-client failed, you should solve the problem and run it again
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15:09 | E.g. some packages might not have been downloaded
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15:09 | <priyank> alkisg: ok. I am using ubuntu 10.10 so shall i update all the packages
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15:09 | actually the error groups: cannot find name for group ID 0
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15:09 | <alkisg> priyank: do you have the whole output of ltsp-build-client? if so, paste it to pastebin
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15:09 | !pastebin
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15:09 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "pastebin" :: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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15:10 | <alkisg> Not the `chroot` error afterwards. If the chroot is broken, you can't fix it
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15:11 | <priyank> ok i am trying again. I will pastebin it when it completes
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15:12 | http://www.ltsp.pastebin.com/HzjiQMfK
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15:13 | <alkisg> That's not the whole output... check "Unlimited scrollback" in your terminal preferences
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15:13 | Did the packages before those in the pastebin get downloaded correctly?
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15:14 | <priyank> mind remotedesktop?
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15:14 | <alkisg> ok, run `sudo apt-get install x11vnc` and `x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org`
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15:20 | A connection starts but it closes immediately...
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15:21 | <robehend1> i am terrified of the day Alkisg begins to send out invoices for this help ;)
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15:21 | <alkisg> Heh... nah I'm already being paid for my involvement with ltsp, I'm not looking for anything more :)
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15:21 | <robehend1> nice.
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15:21 | <priyank> nice
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15:22 | <robehend1> also, woo, Remote_apps works fantastically
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15:24 | <alkisg> priyank: this shouldn't matter, but don't use sudo when you're already root
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15:24 | <priyank> ok. let this install finish and lets see the error
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15:24 | <alkisg> ok
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15:26 | <priyank> can you tell me 1 thing. actually currently i am connected to router wirelessly so will the clients be able to connect to me
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15:26 | <alkisg> Yes, but of course slowly
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15:27 | <priyank> ok. i haven't done related to wireless so please tell me the steps
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15:27 | let this install finish then we can try in virtualbox
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15:28 | <evil_root> if your already connected wireless its the same steps, wireless is just slower then enet but they both use IP
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15:28 | <alkisg> Sure... but I'm also doing other stuff so don't worry if sometimes it takes a couple of minutes for me to answer
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15:29 | <priyank> no probs i know..
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15:32 | alkisg: it would take around 30 min for all downloads.
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15:33 | <alkisg> priyank: so you only want to use your wireless card? Do you have a router in your dhcp server?
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15:34 | Heh
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15:34 | Do you have a dhcp server in your router?
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15:34 | (it's getting late here :D)
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15:34 | <priyank> ok i think you can go. I can try myself or tell u tomorrow
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15:35 | actually i was confused how can client boot wirelessly
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15:36 | <alkisg> priyank: no I mean it's getting late and I'm doing syntactical errors :D
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15:36 | If you have a dhcp server running on your router, then you can't use dhcp3-server in your server
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15:36 | You can use a proxy dhcp server though
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15:36 | That's why I'm asking...
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15:37 | <priyank> ya dnsmaqd
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15:37 | i will have to use that
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15:37 | <alkisg> OK let's get it ready until ltsp-build-client finishes...
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15:37 | <priyank> ok
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15:37 | <robehend1> whoa, you can pxe boot over wireless now? i thought there was a hard break in the wifi drivers that didnt support that
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15:37 | <alkisg> robehend1: that's the server, not the client
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15:37 | <robehend1> ah, alright.
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15:38 | was gonna say, that delay would be horrendous
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15:38 | <priyank> please clarify me how to boot client wirelessly with password
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15:38 | <alkisg> priyank: errrr you *also* want the client wirelessly?
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15:38 | Not just the server?
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15:39 | <robehend1> priyank: Impossible at the moment, priyank. Wifi drivers dont support pxe boots
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15:39 | <priyank> ya.. ok.
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15:39 | <robehend1> only thing i could think of would be doing it through a wifi ethernet bridge
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15:39 | but that would take ages
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15:39 | <alkisg> Right... or loading a customized initramfs locally from a usb stick or cd etc
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15:40 | <robehend1> yep, not a true pxe setup. and more hassle than its worth, with wifi-s throughput
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15:40 | <priyank> ok.. actually currently i am connected wirelessly and the client i would try in the virtualbox How would it boot?
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15:40 | <alkisg> priyank: if we setup dnsmasq in proxy mode it will just work :)
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15:40 | <priyank> ok
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15:41 | lets see
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15:41 | <alkisg> priyank: do these steps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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15:41 | (not the steps referring to Karmic of course)
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15:41 | (so ignore the "getting a newer dnsmasq version" paragraph)
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15:43 | <vagrantc> there is at least one wireless card supported by gPXE/iPXE
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15:44 | <alkisg> It still needs a local medium (unless burned into rom) so it's not much different than the custom initramfs... :-/
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15:44 | priyank: change the dhcp-proxy=xxx line, put your current ip there
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15:45 | dhcp-range, sorry
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15:46 | <priyank> is it correct?
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15:46 | <alkisg> Now run `sudo invoke-rc.d dnsmasq restart`
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15:46 | Yes, it's ok
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15:46 | <priyank> you have the control
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15:46 | <alkisg> Then we need to wait for ltsp-build-client to finish
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15:46 | <priyank> ok
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15:47 | <alkisg> vnc is a little slow because you're also downloading packages...
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15:47 | <priyank> okk
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15:48 | <alkisg> priyank: which vbox do you have? oracle or the -ose version?
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15:48 | <priyank> oracle
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15:48 | <alkisg> OK. Create a vbox with no disk and put its nic to "bridged" mode
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15:48 | *a vm
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15:49 | <priyank> in Name? wlan0 or eth0?
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15:51 | <alkisg> wlan
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15:53 | priyank: check [v] network and put it up, to be first
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15:57 | <alkisg> (closing vnc for a while, if we need it we can reopen it later...)
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15:57 | <priyank> sure
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16:23 | <priyank> ltsp installation complete . when i boot my client it shows failed to connect to nbd server
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16:38 | <alkisg> priyank: it needs the ipappend 3 staff in pxelinux.cfg
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16:38 | See the proxydhcp wiki page
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16:38 | <priyank> x11??
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16:38 | <alkisg> sure
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16:38 | x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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16:40 | priyank: sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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16:40 | <priyank> speed should not be bad i think
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16:40 | but ok
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16:40 | <alkisg> it's not good though :(
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16:41 | ok try now..
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16:44 | <alkisg> priyank: it hanged
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16:44 | It doesn't take that long, it should have booted now
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16:50 | <priyank> in settings do i have to give link to img file?
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16:50 | <alkisg> No it's correct there
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16:50 | <priyank> ok
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16:51 | <alkisg> That's about it... :)
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16:51 | <priyank> thanks a lot
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16:52 | <alkisg> You're welcome. Btw, if you need a boot disk (I saw you googling something related), use gpxe
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16:52 | !gpxe
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16:52 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "gpxe" :: the successor to etherboot (http://etherboot.org). To download bootable floppy, cd, usb, kernel etc images, visit http://rom-o-matic.net/
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16:52 | <priyank> ok
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16:53 | thanks.. but it was just experiment in real life i would try in lan conn only
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16:53 | <alkisg> OK. Good night all...
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16:53 | <priyank> u too.. thanks.. tc
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