IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 18 August 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:27 | <alkisg> bennabiy: I don't expect fd5 to be in use while running rc.local, but you do have a point, so I bumped it to fd67:
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| 04:27 | !socat-server
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| 04:27 | <ltsp> socat-server: to get remote xterms to your LTSP clients: RCFILE_01="while sleep 5; do TERM=xterm LANG=en_US.UTF-8 socat tcp:server:5500,forever EXEC:'bash -l',pty,setsid,stderr; done &" and then on the server: socat tcp-listen:5500,reuseaddr,keepalive=1,fork EXEC:"xterm -e 'socat stdio,raw,echo=0 fd:67'",fdin=67
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| 04:40 | <vagrantc> well, i figured out the systemd issue with ltspfsd
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| 04:40 | at least, partially
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| 04:40 | sometimes lack of internet can actually result in more productivity...
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| 04:42 | * alkisg waves to vagrantc | |
| 04:42 | <alkisg> What was the issue?
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| 04:50 | <vagrantc> alkisg: systemd kills off processes started from udev that are still running after a timeout
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| 04:51 | <alkisg> So we'd need to daemonize it"?
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| 04:51 | <vagrantc> it already daemonizes
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| 04:51 | systemd kills daemons!
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| 04:51 | * vagrantc is composing an email to the relevent bug at the moment | |
| 04:51 | <alkisg> Eh, systemd got into religion too...
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| 04:53 | <vagrantc> basically, creating an ltspfsd.service file and starting that from udev works with systemd
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| 04:53 | <alkisg> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/udev.html
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| 04:53 | Starting daemons or other long-running processes is not appropriate for udev; the forked processes, detached or not, will be unconditionally killed after the event handling has finished.
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| 04:53 | <vagrantc> they know what's best.
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| 04:53 | <alkisg> So you run `invoke-rc.d` from udev?
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| 04:53 | <vagrantc> anyways, i've got patches that get it to work
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| 04:54 | systemctl ltspfsd start
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| 04:54 | maybe invoke-rc.d will work...
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| 04:54 | that would make it more init system agnostic, maybe.
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| 04:54 | <alkisg> And setsid doesn't work?
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| 04:54 | <vagrantc> then we'd have to write an init script for it.
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| 04:54 | setsid?
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| 04:54 | <alkisg> To have the child process in its own group...
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| 04:55 | setsid ltspfsd <params>
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| 04:55 | <vagrantc> dunno
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| 04:55 | * vagrantc wonders if ltspfsd assumes any variables are present | |
| 04:57 | <vagrantc> i think all the variables are used in calling it.
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| 04:57 | but it doesn't need any itself
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| 04:59 | <alkisg> /usr/bin/ltspfsd
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| 04:59 | echo $! >/var/run/ltspfsd.pid
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| 04:59 | <vagrantc> that never worked
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| 04:59 | <alkisg> ...I don't think that $! there works
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| 04:59 | Because it's not ran in the background by the shell
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| 04:59 | Try a setsid there, setsid /usr/bin/ltspfsd
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| 04:59 | <vagrantc> ah, if we backgrounded it there, $! would work?
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| 04:59 | <alkisg> Maybe that'll make systemd happy
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| 05:00 | <vagrantc> would be simpler, for sure.
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| 05:00 | <alkisg> Yes, but why would we need to do that in shell? Why not have ltspfsd manage its own pid?
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| 05:01 | <vagrantc> cuz C is *hard*!
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| 05:02 | * vagrantc also thought the creation of the mcookie should also be handled by ltspfsd or a wrapper script. | |
| 05:02 | * alkisg would prefer it if daemons were stupid things only caring about their stdio, and the whole backgrounding/pids/etc stuff was managed by an OS utility like start-stop-daemon | |
| 05:02 | <vagrantc> although ldm has the valid use-case of being able to export it before ltspfsd has been started
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| 05:03 | start-stop-daemon is not distro-agnostic
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| 05:03 | or at least, wasn't.
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| 05:03 | <alkisg> I didn't mean specifically that one... any utility, e.g. systemd-start-daemon
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| 05:04 | It shouldn't be hard to write a distro-agnostic one
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| 05:04 | <vagrantc> would be nice.
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| 05:05 | alkisg: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758093#15
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| 05:05 | that contains my working, but not pretty, patch.
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| 05:06 | <alkisg> E.g. start-daemon tftpd udp:69 => and then implement tftpd with plain stdio :P
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| 05:07 | (similar to inetd...)
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| 05:07 | * alkisg starts designing systemd++ :P | |
| 05:08 | <alkisg> vagrantc: calling systemctl would make ltspfs a bit more difficult to backport, right? Maybe try if setsid works?
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| 05:09 | <vagrantc> now that every major distro has conceeded to switching to systemd... alkisg would like to introduce systemd++!
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| 05:09 | <highvoltage> lol
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| 05:09 | <vagrantc> alkisg: well, could also test -f /bin/systemctl && systemctl .. || ltspsfd
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| 05:10 | but i'm trying your setsid trick now
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| 05:10 | alkisg: setsid didn't work
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| 05:10 | <alkisg> Bummer
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| 05:10 | <vagrantc> systemd udev is very insistant on killing daemons!
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| 05:14 | * vagrantc wonders if service is generic enough | |
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| 07:19 | <vagrantc> hrm.
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| 07:19 | so, i'm not thrilled at the systemd support i've come up with...
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| 07:20 | but maybe I should commit it upstream anyways...
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| 12:44 | <Arshpreet> I am successfully able to install LTSP on Rocks Cluster using this tutorial
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| 12:44 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Category:Fedora
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| 12:44 | Now I where I can get the docs to do required configurations and make it run?
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| 12:53 | Do i also need to install open-vz
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| 16:00 | <vagrantc> ok, i think i have the systemd stuff sorted out for ltspfs...
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| 16:00 | just need to figure out where to put the ltspfsd.service file in upstream
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| 16:01 | with all the auto-foo
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| 16:13 | * vagrantc just drops it in docs/examples and calls it a ltspfs 1.4 | |
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| 16:33 | <vagrantc> cyberorg: hopefully the changes i made for ltspfs 1.4 will work for your systemd issues as well
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| 17:02 | <FrankBlues> I can't find any newer (newer than 2008) docs about creating clients that will boot on a PowerPC system (older iMacs) - has anyone had recent success with PPC clients and a AMD64 server?
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| 17:06 | I keep getting a "Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/powerpc mount -t proc proc /proc
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| 17:06 | "
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| 17:09 | It's like someone missed a ";" or "&&" in a script somewhere...
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| 17:10 | <vagrantc> you'd need to emulate powerpc with qemu-user-static, but the support for powerpc has been hit-or-miss, in my experience
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| 17:11 | or you could build the powerpc chroot on a powerpc machine natively, and copy the chroot/image over to your amd64 server
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| 17:11 | poewrpc network booting is a bit of an adventure, really.
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| 17:11 | good luck!
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| 17:17 | <FrankBlues> "Adventure" seems a understatement... heh
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| 17:17 | Thanks!
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| 17:26 | I found an old prefab chroot for ppc (it's a fedora client, my server is ubuntu) - I'll give that a shot.
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| 17:45 | <vagrantc> stgraber: you probably want to consider pulling the new ltspfs just uploaded to debian.
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| 20:32 | <cryptrat> hello everyone
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| 20:34 | anyone familiar with getting xfreerdp remote apps to work from an XP SP3 machine ?
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| 20:35 | whenever i run the command it just loads a full remote desktop, not just loading the app
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| 20:48 | <||cw> cryptrat: did you install the part on XP that does that? I also recall that MS broke it at some point
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| 20:49 | <cryptrat> yeah i found that there was an update and the xp remote app
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| 20:56 | i installed them, edited the registry fDisabledAllowList dword to 1 used the remoteapp tool to add the apps to the registry
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| 20:57 | and still all i get is a full remote desktop
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