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Channel log from 24 June 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:32 | <ogra> !compiz
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| 04:32 | <ltspbot> ogra: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 04:40 | <zeitsofa> hi. is there a way to store the session if thinclint switch powered of?
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| 05:19 | <zeitsofa> alkisg: hello :) did u know something about a way to store a session if user has a active login and the thinclient power switch off?
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| 05:20 | <alkisg> zeitsofa: no, I don't know anything like that in ltsp. nx supports it though.
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| 05:21 | <zeitsofa> is there a way to combinate nx and ltsp to do this?
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| 05:22 | <alkisg> You could make a different login screen that uses nx... but I don't know anyone that has done it.
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| 05:41 | <maslak> !help
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| 05:41 | <ltspbot> maslak: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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| 05:41 | <maslak> !fat
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| 05:41 | <ltspbot> maslak: Error: "fat" is not a valid command.
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| 05:41 | <maslak> !fatclient
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| 05:41 | <ltspbot> maslak: Error: "fatclient" is not a valid command.
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| 05:42 | <maslak> ;]
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| 05:48 | !fuck
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| 05:48 | ;]
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| 05:48 | <ltspbot> maslak: Error: "fuck" is not a valid command.
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| 05:49 | <alkisg> maslak, please watch your language
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| 08:51 | <zeitsofa> /ignore #ltsp JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
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| 08:51 | ups
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| 10:06 | <_UsUrPeR_> ogra: ping?
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| 10:25 | <EricLMG> good morning all
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| 10:27 | I have a question regarding the setup of my LTSP server. We set up the server and a single app server. The first time I load up a new thin client, it logs into the app server correctly, but then on every subsequent boot, the thin clients are logging into the ltsp server instead of the app server.
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| 10:59 | <EricLMG> could someone please help with an issue i am having with my ltsp server? for some reason, my thin clients are being directed to the ltsp server instead of the app server, and I can't figure out why
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| 11:13 | <Appiah> " directed" ?
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| 11:15 | <alkisg> EricLMG: distro/version/lts.conf/dhcpd.conf?
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| 11:15 | <mhull> alkisg, i'm with EricLMG... we are using the ltsp loadbalancer
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| 11:17 | the thin clients connect to the application server as they should be once, but after they've been defined in the ltsp-cluster admin page, they always connect to the actual ltsp load balancing server rather than the app server
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| 11:17 | <alkisg> The LTSP-cluster loadbalancer? Or a custom loadbalancer implementation, like it's documented in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LDMLoadbalancingSupport ?
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| 11:17 | OK, sorry, no idea about ltsp cluster
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| 11:18 | <EricLMG> its exactly as documented in wiki
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| 11:20 | <alkisg> I'm seeing on ldm.c that some info is logged about the balancing
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| 11:20 | So, check ldm.log locally, maybe you'll find some clues there
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| 11:21 | loginfo("IP before balancing: %s",ldm.server); // loginfo("Balancing failed to get an IP"); // logerr("Balancing failed"); etc
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| 11:24 | <alkisg> Also check what "getltscfg-cluster -l ldm" tells you (again locally)
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| 11:26 | <mhull> getltscfg-cluster -l ldm returns nothing
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| 11:27 | any idea what this might be: "code 400, message Bad request syntax ('getkey')"
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| 11:28 | that's showing up in ltsp-cluster-lbserver.log
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| 12:47 | <Grindar> hey guys, configuring ltsp on ubuntu. Everything seems to be working fine, up til client login. It authenticates, then throws "getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)" Any ideas what might cause it?
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| 13:00 | <atkuepker> Grindar, What authentication method are you using?
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| 13:03 | <Grindar> whichever one was configured by default?
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| 13:03 | I was following the ubuntu wiki on it
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| 13:03 | <atkuepker> did you run the ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-image after the install?
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| 13:04 | <Grindar> yes
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| 13:04 | before I did that the login itself was timing out, now it seems to putter out when launching X
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| 13:04 | <atkuepker> ah, that's different from a login failure.
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| 13:05 | <Grindar> any ideas on what to look at? googling has helped much yet
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| 13:05 | *hasn't
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| 13:07 | <atkuepker> if you're having X problems, the .xsession-errors file will probably be needful.
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| 13:08 | Those issues are sometimes difficult to sort out though. Unlike most folks, we've had an awful time here dealing with i845 Intel video drivers
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| 13:11 | <Grindar> where would that file be stashed?
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| 13:12 | <atkuepker> home directory of the user that's logging in
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| 13:12 | <Grindar> ok, checking it now
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| 13:15 | hmm, I don't see that file, or anything close to that
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| 13:16 | in fact, my home directory has nothing but the default folders
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| 13:17 | <atkuepker> did you specify the file or use the '-a' flag?
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| 13:18 | <Grindar> ah, -a did it.
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| 13:20 | "please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing."
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| 13:20 | <atkuepker> can't help you with that one. We have that stuff turned off for HIPAA compliance.
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| 13:20 | <Grindar> HIPAA?
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| 13:21 | <zeitsofa> hello :) my thinclients always have 800x600 but in the ltsp.conf X_MODE_0 = 1024x768. it's a bug oder user error?
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| 13:21 | <Grindar> actually, that doesn't seem to be cause of crash...it's earlier. trying to copy from virtual machine :p
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| 13:28 | glib-critical **:g_once_init_leave:assertion 'initialization_value !=0' failed
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| 13:36 | <alkisg> Grindar: try disabling compiz
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| 13:37 | !compiz
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| 13:37 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> zeitsofa: the monitor frequencies are probably not detected correctly. What graphics card / monitor does your client have?
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| 13:38 | <zeitsofa> alkisg: monitor atm is an old NEC LCD 2010 - and graphic card i don't know atm
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| 13:38 | <alkisg> Do you know the correct resolution for your monitor? E.g. 1024x768@60Hz?
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| 13:40 | <zeitsofa> yes its true
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| 13:41 | <Grindar> let me reboot my thin client and I'll give it a shot
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> Grindar: a logoff should suffice
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| 13:41 | <Grindar> not when it was frozen >.<
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> Heh ,ok
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| 13:42 | zeitsofa: try putting those in your lts.conf:
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| 13:42 | [Default]
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| 13:42 | X_HORZSYNC=30.0-88.0
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| 13:42 | X_VERTREFRESH=59.0-61.0
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| 13:43 | <alkisg> XRANDR_MODE_0=1024x768
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| 13:43 | <Grindar> wait a minute, am I disabling compiz on the thin client image or the server, or both?
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| 13:43 | <alkisg> Then reboot the client and see if it works.
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| 13:43 | Grindar: if you're using thin clients (as opposed to fat), then just on the server.
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| 13:43 | <zeitsofa> alkisg: thx i'll try
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| 13:46 | <Grindar> ok, entered the command, trying it :p
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| 13:48 | <zeitsofa> alkisg: looks little bit better - the font is very very small now
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| 13:48 | <alkisg> zeitsofa: open a gnome terminal, and enter: xrandr
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| 13:48 | You'll see the active mode and the available modes.
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| 13:49 | <zeitsofa> ah ok
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| 13:49 | 1024x768 61.0
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| 13:50 | <alkisg> That's all? No other modes? Do you also have an X_MODE_0 in your lts.conf?
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| 13:51 | <zeitsofa> just a moment i'll create a nopaste
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| 13:51 | <Grindar> ok, trying again, but nothing happened after I disabled compiz
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| 13:52 | went to a terminal screen that was basically frozen with a spinning white circle (hourglass equivalent)
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| 13:54 | <zeitsofa> alkisg: http://nopaste.info/b4fb4c8793.html
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| 13:56 | <Grindar> yep, did the same again
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| 13:56 | <alkisg> zeitsofa: ok, if you think that 1024x768 is not appropriate, you can try different modes from System > Preferences > Monitor settings (or similar - I don't have english menus)
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| 13:57 | <zeitsofa> alkisg: german?
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| 13:57 | <alkisg> zeitsofa: also, do you need XSERVER=vesa?
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| 13:57 | If you remove that, maybe it'll correctly autodetect your monitor
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| 13:57 | No, Greek
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| 13:57 | <zeitsofa> alkisg: i turn it of but it is the same
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| 13:57 | <alkisg> Do turn it off then, it's faster without vesa
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| 13:58 | Grindar: does your server have a GUI? Or is it headless?
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| 13:59 | <zeitsofa> ok i found a good solution for me :)
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| 13:59 | <Grindar> server has a gui
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| 13:59 | <zeitsofa> thx a lot
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| 14:00 | <alkisg> Grindar: try logging in on the server with that user
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| 14:01 | <Grindar> yep. not a problem there
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| 14:04 | <alkisg> OK, try to collect some extra info
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| 14:04 | auth.log from the server,
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| 14:04 | ldm.log from the client,
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| 14:04 | ~/.xsession-errors etc
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| 14:05 | <Grindar> you want me to pastebin them?
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| 14:06 | <alkisg> Not the whole auth.log - just see that each time a user tries to connect on a client, you actually get a successful authentication there
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| 14:06 | I think you can pastebin the other 2 :)
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| 14:08 | <Grindar> ok, here's the xsession errors
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| 14:08 | glib-critical **:g_once_init_leave:assertion 'initialization_value !=0' failed
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| 14:08 | oops, un momento :p
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| 14:09 | http://pastebin.com/eQxGfHNh
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| 14:10 | silly can't copy between my lappy and the virtual machine...
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| 14:10 | ok, looking for the rest
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| 14:10 | * alkisg needs to go AFK for an hour... | |
| 14:12 | <Grindar> and I leave work in less than that, oh well
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| 15:42 | <narendra> hi
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| 15:43 | I have some old thin client which only support RDP protocol.. I have Linux Server , What Software/Server I should install for thin client setup.
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| 15:43 | Or may you guide for better IRC channel
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| 15:44 | <alkisg> LTSP sends its own OS to the clients, so they'll support other protocols too.
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| 15:44 | Don't they support PXE booting?
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| 15:44 | <Appiah> PXE boot the thin client
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| 15:44 | and it wont matter
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| 15:46 | <Lns> Hey guys
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| 15:46 | <alkisg> Heya Lns
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| 15:46 | <Lns> Here's a little something I whipped up, it might be of use to some of you
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| 15:46 | hey alkisg =) you might like this
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| 15:46 | <alkisg> Is it pizza?
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| 15:47 | <Lns> its limited (i suck at scripting but am getting better) but check it out, works for me
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| 15:47 | almost as good! ;)
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| 15:47 | eye candy
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| 15:47 | http://logicalnetworking.net/wiki/doku.php?id=ldmthemestudentoftheday
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| 15:47 | changes LDM theme logo (provided you have the correct one ;) ) to a picture of your choosing
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| 15:48 | <alkisg> Ooooh nice!
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| 15:49 | <Lns> It's very hack-ish (dosn't even check your chroot arch) but it's a start :)
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| 15:49 | * Lns <3 zenity | |
| 15:49 | <alkisg> Yeah zenity and imagemagick are great tools
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| 15:49 | <Lns> for sure
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| 15:49 | <Lns> =)
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| 15:49 | <alkisg> You could start with python too ;)
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| 15:49 | <Lns> I'm going to attempt learning py pretty soon here actually =)
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| 15:50 | but i really love bash scripting too
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| 15:50 | so simple for the most part
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| 15:50 | just learning the ins and outs
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| 15:50 | <alkisg> How's Debian comparing to Ubuntu for your LTSP setups?
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| 15:50 | <Lns> I haven't tested 35 clients on debian yet but the 2 i have in my office are working out well
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| 15:51 | nothing to complain about
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| 15:52 | <alkisg> Is NFS noticable slower than nbd?
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| 15:52 | <Lns> i haven't noticed any difference at all
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| 15:53 | i gotta run just wanted to show you guys that..if you find anything wrong or want to improve it lemme know
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| 15:53 | * Lns waves | |
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