IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 12 December 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 11:05 | <Guest3931> hi guys, if I have an ltsp x64 server with i386 image
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| 11:06 | and i want to use the nvidia driver for
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| 11:06 | dual screen
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| 11:06 | which driver i have to laod?
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| 11:06 | x86 or 64?
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| 11:09 | <chrisjrob> Guest3931: the driver is installed on the client, so go with what's running on the client
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| 11:09 | i.e. i386
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| 11:10 | <Guest3931> ok, But now well I download the driver from nvidia?
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| 11:11 | with iceweasel for debian
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| 11:11 | and then i must install it running from the client?
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| 11:14 | <chrisjrob> Guest3931: you have to log into the chroot rather than the client
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| 11:15 | preferably using ltsp-chroot command
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| 11:15 | alternative using: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 11:15 | !ltsp-chroot
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| 11:15 | <ltsp> chrisjrob: ltsp-chroot: you can download ltsp-chroot from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/view/head:/server/scripts/debian/ltsp-chroot
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| 11:16 | <chrisjrob> ltsp-chroot just does the chroot but mounts and unmounts proc and sys for you
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| 11:17 | <chrisjrob> Guest3931: these are the instructions for Ubuntu LTSP Atom ION, which will give you an idea at least https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AtomIon
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| 11:17 | does depend what you're running though
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| 11:18 | <Guest3931> thanks I`ll check
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| 11:32 | <Guest3931> debian makes it no so easy installing nvidia
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| 12:42 | <muppis> I'm managing nbd-server via pacemaker and it nicely hops from server to another when needed. But how I re-establish connection from client after that failover?
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| 13:03 | <Yoe> muppis: you can't move your nbd-client connection to another server ATM. It just doesn't support that
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| 13:04 | muppis: I guess in theory it would be possible with the -persist thing, but that isn't implemented
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| 13:04 | patches are welcome, I guess :-)
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| 13:04 | <muppis> Yoe, not even moving servers IP as well?=
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| 13:04 | -=
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| 13:04 | <Yoe> if not, I might look into it some time into the future, but I can't say when
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| 13:04 | muppis: well, if you can live with a few lost writes, then I guess you can run nbd-client in a loop and have it connect to a DNS name
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| 13:05 | muppis: once nbd-client disconnects from the device node, the kernel will start issueing EIO errors
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| 13:05 | at least that's the idea -- not sure whether Paul ever submitted that patch to Linus
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| 13:06 | so if you don't want lost writes, you need to have nbd-client reconnect immediately
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| 13:07 | currently it does that by trying to open a new connection to the exact same server; it doesn't do anything more, on the idea that that probably won't work (which is probably true if your root device is on nbd)
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| 13:09 | <muppis> Losing writes is not the problem. Just need to get reconnected.
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| 13:10 | <alkisg> https://bitbucket.org/hirofuchi/xnbd/wiki/Home => xnbd-client --connect [options] nbd_device host port [host port] ...
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| 13:10 | <alkisg> I think xnbd supports multiple servers, I've never tried it though...
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| 13:11 | <Yoe> alkisg: yeah, right, it does
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| 13:11 | <alkisg> So maybe it call fallover without you doing anything
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| 13:12 | <alkisg> Yoe, did those people try sending patches upstream? Or they just forked nbd without even trying to send patches?
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| 13:16 | <Yoe> alkisg: the latter
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| 13:16 | <alkisg> Meh
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| 13:16 | <Yoe> alkisg: I contacted them to talk about possibly cooperating so that our protocols wouldn't be incompatible, and they didn't even want to do that
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| 13:16 | I just threw up my hands in disgust after that
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| 13:16 | <alkisg> Yeah, totally understandable
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| 13:17 | Guest3931: I think the debian documentation for installing nvidia binary drivers is there: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Installation-1
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| 15:53 | <mgariepy> hey alkisg
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| 15:53 | <alkisg> Hi mgariepy, what's up?
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| 15:53 | <mgariepy> not much, i found what is wrong with ltsp-genmenu !
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| 15:54 | why it takes a lot of time when using fat client (or a lot of local apps ) :)
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| 15:54 | <alkisg> Er... that's what we use with localapps, right?
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| 15:54 | <mgariepy> yeah
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| 15:54 | * alkisg doesn't use localapps in any of his setups... | |
| 15:54 | <alkisg> What's wrong with it?
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| 15:55 | <mgariepy> it uses find when looking for icons, once per icon and it take about 1.5 sec per call.
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| 15:55 | <alkisg> once per icon? ouch
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| 15:55 | <mgariepy> lol yeah
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| 15:56 | and the regex wasn't good for the find command, we were lucky that it was working :)
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| 15:57 | i fixed the regex and i will fix the rest this week probably to find all the icons in one shot.
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| 15:57 | therefore calling find only once.
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| 15:59 | <alkisg> mgariepy: are you planning to cache all .png, .svg etc files for the next loop? Or are you going to find all the icons with a single find command?
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| 16:01 | <mgariepy> find all icons in a single call
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| 16:03 | it will add a few milliseconds to the call per items but it will be much better then right now.
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| 16:03 | <alkisg> Yeah multiple finds == very bad performance
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| 16:04 | <mgariepy> indeed.
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| 16:04 | <alkisg> I wonder if we could use some system function to locate the icons though
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| 16:05 | <mgariepy> when having only 1 or 2 localapps, it's not too bad only adding 2-3 sec to login time but when having 10 localapps, it take like 15sec only to generate this menu
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| 16:05 | <alkisg> Maybe an xdg- one, to be somewhat DE-agnostic
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| 18:09 | <Nurliza> hi all
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| 18:09 | i need help
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| 18:09 | how to download file frm linux shell?
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| 18:10 | <alkisg> Nurliza: what are you trying to do?
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| 18:10 | <Nurliza> wget
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| 18:11 | cmds wget, but not work
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| 18:12 | alkisg: there?
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| 18:13 | <alkisg> Nurliza: I'm here, but do describe your problem with more words
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| 18:13 | wget is a program, bash is a shell
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| 18:13 | What are you trying to do, and what doesn't work, and how does that related to #ltsp?
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| 18:13 | *relate
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| 18:14 | <Nurliza> sorry
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| 18:50 | <alkisg> Nurliza: maybe you didn't put quotes around the url? e.g. `wget http://somewhere.com/path?query¶m=value` is not right, it needs quotes, because of the "&" symbol, which is a special shell character
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| 18:59 | <dtrask> hey all
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| 19:00 | anyone here have experience with epostes?
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| 19:00 | epoptes
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| 19:00 | sorry
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| 19:00 | I'm having issues getting clients to connect
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| 19:16 | <andygraybeal> dtrask, alkisg is the guy that made it, he's not here right now.. but if your patient, he will answer any of your questions. he is amazing.
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| 19:16 | <dtrask> thanks
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| 19:17 | <andygraybeal> he reads the logs to see if he missed anything when his client is not online.
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| 19:17 | *he even reads...
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| 19:17 | that's how awesome he is :)
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| 19:20 | <dtrask> so it's in the logs...here's what is happening
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| 19:20 | I have it installed and running....but only one client shows up in the interface....and I can't seem to do anything with it
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| 21:09 | <opivy224> Hello. I have just come into a company using LTSP 4.2 and trying to get farmiliar with it. They have a user, when logged on, gets a flashing cursor and taskbar and the desktop icons take a long time to load. Also, nothing on the taskbar can be clicked on.
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| 21:09 | Is there somewhere I can go to reset the settings just for his sessions/
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| 21:10 | <muppis> Wipe everything from users home dir.
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| 21:11 | <vagrantc> or just create a new user, and move all the user's documents/files/etc. into the new user's homedir.
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| 21:11 | (and change permissions and such)
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| 21:13 | <muppis> Easier to take backup and let system recreate needed files and then restore documents.
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| 21:14 | I've done that way. No need to hazzle with permissions.
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| 21:16 | <opivy224> Ok, Ive moved his home folder out. How do I create a new one with the appropriate files and permissions and such?
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| 21:17 | <muppis> Just create dir for that user and set same permissions and owner/group as old one. After that done, login with that user.
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| 21:23 | <opivy224> Thanks, that seems to have worked.
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| 21:23 | I owe you guys a beer
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| 22:57 | <andygraybeal> feel like my head is off
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