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06:19 | <mealstrom> good morning
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06:24 | <cyberorg> mealstrom, hi, you wanted to know about ltsp in schools we have here in India?
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06:25 | <mealstrom> cyberorg: i was confused when i havent found 4-th point on map from ltsp-stories )
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06:27 | <cyberorg> mealstrom, ah, ok, i think the pins are not accurate for addresses, Nissan and Honda integrated showroom/service centers show up in one place
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06:29 | there we have 2 x 8core clusters with 2-4 appservers
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06:29 | cluster stack is running on openSUSE and LTSP app servers are ubuntu
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06:30 | schools, there are actually 6 of them, group of Baroda High Schools - 5 of then and Bhavans school
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06:43 | <mealstrom> cyberorg: nice. how many people can work on yours server config?
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06:44 | <cyberorg> "can" be a lot, but at the moment we have 40 users per cluster, 10-20 per app server VM
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07:05 | <Hyperbyte> Your app servers are VM's?
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07:32 | <cyberorg> Hyperbyte, yes
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07:32 | vms on the kvm+drbd+ocfs+openais cluster
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07:39 | <Hyperbyte> Why do you have several app servers in VM's, instead of just one big LTSP server in one VM?
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07:39 | Scalability?
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07:40 | <nbg-jamie> Hello everyone. We have been using ltsp 4.1 for years and recently switched to Ubuntu running LTSP 5. So i'm a little lost on how the new setup works.
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07:41 | I'm wanting to change the default session for the end users to lubuntu. Can i just ding around in /opt/ltsp/i386 and then rebuild the client image?
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07:41 | <cyberorg> scalability, availablilty, process confinement etc
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07:42 | and also load balancing
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07:46 | <Hyperbyte> nbg-jamie, see lts.conf manpage :)
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07:46 | !lts.conf
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07:46 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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07:47 | <Hyperbyte> LDM_SESSION should be of interest to you
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07:47 | And yes, you can change anything in /opt/ltsp/i386/ and then do an ltsp-update-image
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07:51 | <nbg-jamie> Awesome! Got it!
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07:52 | thank you!
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07:55 | I'm wondering if i can login to a fresh account. Make all the UI changes i want (desktop pattern, taskbar icons etc) then just copy all the .files from that account into /etc/skel and then any new user will pickup those preferences.
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07:55 | That question question is probably more of a lubuntu question than an LTSP question but i'll throw it out here if anyone want's to chime in.
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07:59 | <Hyperbyte> nbg-jamie, no
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07:59 | Well actually yes
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07:59 | That's an LXDE question. :)
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07:59 | I was assuming Gnome, which uses dconf on 12.04 (which is awesome, because you can easily export user settings to a global mandatory settings db)
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08:00 | So you can't copy files from a users' home dir and expect things to work, you have to do it via dconf. But I don't suppose LXDE uses that.
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08:02 | <nbg-jamie> No worries.. I'll head over to that channel. Thanks for the tip on the lts.conf Our old ltsp servers ran for so long and we never needed to touch them. School starts in less than a week and I got 800 ltsp clients going this year, so i want to get them sorted out and easy for elementary kids to use ;)
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08:03 | good night everyone!
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08:36 | <Hyperbyte> !learn story as If you have successfully deployed LTSP, please let us know by adding your success story to our website at http://www.ltsp.org/stories/
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08:36 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: The operation succeeded.
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08:37 | <Hyperbyte> Oh I had one already!
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08:37 | !forget story
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08:37 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: The operation succeeded.
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08:37 | <Hyperbyte> !learn story as see: !worldmap
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08:37 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: The operation succeeded.
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12:18 | <Bootless> hi, can someone help me? my oadbalancer from my ltsp cluster does not find or choose an appserver. instead it chooses himself as the appserver. in the log i find the following: Cannot retrieve node '[NodeNameFindIn_lbsconfig.xml]', error:<type 'exceptions.IOError'> . i googled the whole day and searched for the error but can not find it. thanks in advance
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13:25 | <Bootless> is it possible that the root server thinks he is an appserver when you install the ltsp-server-standalone and after this the image?
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14:10 | * Hyperbyte knows nothing about LTSP cluster unfortunately | |
14:10 | <Hyperbyte> Hey Andy!
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18:01 | <jammcq> ogra_: so... you gonna join us in Maine? We'd sure like to see you there
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19:50 | <alkisg> When is LTSP BTS this year?
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19:56 | <markit> he is gone I think
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20:51 | <Hyperbyte> Hah
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20:51 | !ltsp
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20:51 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: ltsp: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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20:51 | <ltsp`> Hyperbyte: Error: "ltsp" is not a valid command.
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20:51 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm
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20:55 | <alkisg> !ltsp
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20:55 | <ltsp> alkisg: ltsp: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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20:55 | <ltsp`> alkisg: Error: "ltsp" is not a valid command.
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20:56 | <vagrantc> heh
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21:01 | <alkisg> !ltsp
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21:01 | <ltsp> alkisg: ltsp: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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21:01 | <ltsp`> alkisg: Error: "ltsp" is not a valid command.
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21:04 | <alkisg> !ltsp
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21:04 | <ltsp> alkisg: ltsp: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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21:04 | <alkisg> !ltsp
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21:04 | <ltsp> alkisg: ltsp: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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21:04 | <ltsp`> alkisg: Error: "ltsp" is not a valid command.
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21:07 | <alkisg> !ltsp
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21:07 | <ltsp> alkisg: ltsp: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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21:07 | <ltsp`> alkisg: Error: "ltsp" is not a valid command.
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21:10 | <||cw> interesting
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21:12 | <alkisg> !ltsp
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21:12 | <ltsp> alkisg: ltsp: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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21:12 | <ltsp`> alkisg: Error: "ltsp" is not a valid command.
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21:13 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, let's do this in PM to the bot please
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21:13 | <alkisg> Right
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21:13 | But it needs the channel name
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21:13 | then
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21:13 | <Hyperbyte> Yep. /msg ltsp` whatis #ltsp <factoid>... we're kinda flooding the channel with crap right now. :)
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21:14 | <alkisg> People should know that we're working on fixing the bot :P :D
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21:29 | <ltspuser_80> question: how can i launch an app like viewnoir on the client from the terminal on the server ?
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21:30 | <alkisg> You normally can't
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21:30 | <||cw> ltspuser_80: same way you would launch and app into X11 from an ssh session on a desktop
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21:30 | or does that not even work?
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21:30 | <alkisg> You can launch an X app remotely but it'll run with your user account, not with the target user account
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21:30 | And it needs some fiddling to get it to work, better use a tool for that
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21:31 | !epoptes
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21:31 | <ltsp> alkisg: epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu and Debian based labs with LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
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21:31 | <ltsp`> alkisg: Error: "epoptes" is not a valid command.
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21:31 | <Hyperbyte> Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
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21:31 | <||cw> it's not a curtain, it's tilde
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21:32 | <ltspuser_80> so i can do this from an ssh session?
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21:32 | <||cw> if you make it work at all, you could
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21:32 | i guess
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21:32 | epoptes is a cleaner solution though
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21:32 | <alkisg> Normally no, you'd need some hackish commands to get access to the user display
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21:33 | ..and for some commands, you'd need the dbus session id and more variables as well
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21:33 | <ltspuser_80> i want to skip using epoptes.. i tried and didn't like it
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21:34 | <alkisg> Out of curiosity, why?
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21:34 | <ltspuser_80> i wasn't able to get it to be stable enough for my situation
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21:35 | <alkisg> I haven't heard any stability issues, it's just using x11vnc
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21:35 | Which tool are you planning on using?
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21:35 | <ltspuser_80> i ended up creating some shell scripts to enable/disable taking control of the stations
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21:35 | <alkisg> Anyways, if you want to do it from an ssh session, check the epoptes "get-display" script for the relevant code
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21:35 | <Hyperbyte> !alkisg
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21:35 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: alkisg: The LTSP oracle. Our beacon of hope in the world of LTSP. With the guidance of this divine emperor, we shall prevail.
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21:35 | <ltsp`> Hyperbyte: alkisg could be The LTSP oracle. Our beacon of hope in the world of LTSP. With the guidance of this divine emperor, we shall prevail..
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21:35 | <Hyperbyte> :-D
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21:36 | <alkisg> Hehe, could be :D
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21:36 | <Hyperbyte> The bots are in agreement.
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21:36 | <alkisg> Not quite :D
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21:36 | <ltspuser_80> now ... i have taken those shell scripts and turn it to web-based... so i can walk around with an ipad to take control of stations
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21:37 | also.. we are implementing a way to annotate on each of station with html5 canvas ..
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21:37 | also web-based
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21:37 | <alkisg> Cool. The best way to do it is to have a process listening inside the user session, so that all processes that you tell it to launch are part of the session as well
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21:38 | (that's how the session epoptes-client does it)
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21:39 | <ltspuser_80> guess i got to read up on epoptes
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21:39 | <ltspuser_80> thanks
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22:00 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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22:01 | Soon we can have the IRC logs integrated into the main ltsp.org site as well. :)
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22:08 | <Hyperbyte> !alkisg
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22:08 | <ltsp> Hyperbyte: alkisg: The LTSP oracle. Our beacon of hope in the world of LTSP. With the guidance of this divine emperor, we shall prevail.
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22:09 | <Hyperbyte> !ltsp
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22:09 | <ltsp> ltsp: LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
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23:09 | * vagrantc always thought of alkisg as more of a earthly emperor | |
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23:44 | <markit> btw, I've problems with phonon and fat clients
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23:44 | I remember alkisg fixed this issue, but seems not the case
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23:44 | I need him to ask :)
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23:45 | or anyone here is found about phonon finding different audio devices and asking the user if remove the old ones from the list?
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23:45 | very annoying in fat clients (in thin does not happen of course)
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23:45 | <vagrantc> that sounds very annoying indeed.
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23:47 | <markit> yep, expecially if you have hdmi video
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23:47 | because you have analog audio + digital.. a list of 7-8 devices
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23:48 | and the children are asked "do you want to permanently remove those devices?"
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23:48 | if they answer "yes" I've the feeling will never have audio again in the previous pc, if they go back
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23:48 | I would love ltsp people will take care of kde as well ;P
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23:57 | <vagrantc> maybe you should become an ltsp person to take care of KDE :P
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