IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 2 February 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:01 | <Enslaver> ok, I see the issue.
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| 01:02 | So i'm confused, is the common/ltsp-common-functions supposed to be called ltsp-client-functions, ltsp-client-common-functions or ltsp-common-functions??
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| 01:02 | on the client
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| 01:02 | because i've seen it called all 3
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| 01:08 | <vagrantc> ltsp-client-functions should source ltsp-client-common-functions
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| 01:09 | if i remember correctly.
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| 01:09 | essentially, common/ltsp-common-functions should get copied to ltsp-client-common-functions
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| 01:10 | Enslaver: see client/share/ltsp/ltsp-client-functions
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| 01:11 | <Enslaver> ok thats what was confusing, so ltsp-common-functions should only exist on the client as ltsp-client-common-functions right?
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| 01:12 | <vagrantc> mostly
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| 01:12 | <Enslaver> ldm was doing a check, i suppose for backwards compatibility and sourcing both
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| 01:12 | <vagrantc> it used to exist also as ltsp-common-functions, but we renamed it so that you can install ltsp-server and ltsp-client side-by-side.
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| 01:12 | without file conflicts
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| 01:13 | <Enslaver> Why file conflicts? Do they both write to that file or take ownership if you run them like that?
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| 01:14 | <vagrantc> at least on debian systems, packages that ship the same files cannot be installed.
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| 01:14 | it's an error at the package manager level ...
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| 01:14 | (it's a bit of a white lie, but basically is true)
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| 01:16 | we could have split it out as a separate ltsp-common package, but it would be a single file ... and would then require versioned dependencies and conflicts between all the various packages.
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| 01:16 | <Enslaver> theres gotta be, what about all the tons of programs out there that read config files?
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| 01:16 | theres nothing like %config(noreplace) ?
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| 01:17 | <vagrantc> i don't know what that is.
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| 01:17 | <Enslaver> http://wiki.debian.org/DpkgConffileHandling
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| 01:17 | <vagrantc> not exactly...
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| 01:18 | at any rate, getting into the nuances of debian packaging may not really be what you want to delve into? :P
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| 01:19 | <Enslaver> I actually might have to
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| 01:19 | <vagrantc> these aren't really conffiles or configuration files, they're more akin to libraries...
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| 01:19 | <Enslaver> One of my ideas is a unified packaging system :)
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| 01:20 | yah i know what they are officially, but in rpm thats the way we get around conflicts is to call them config files :)
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| 01:20 | so it basically creates a filename.rpmnew file there in its place
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| 01:21 | <vagrantc> there are ways to do that with dpkg-diversions, but they are generally discouraged if at all possible.
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| 01:21 | and it honestly seems cleaner to have ltsp-server and ltsp-client package ship their own copy of a single file...
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| 01:22 | anyways, gotta head out
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| 01:22 | <Enslaver> b4 u do
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| 01:22 | ldm is still segfaulting, how is the best way to go about debugging that?
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| 01:23 | <vagrantc> haven't really ever had to, honestly ...
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| 01:23 | <Enslaver> theres no --debug thing like ltsp-build-client uses?
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| 01:23 | i just need to figure out what rc files its calling
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| 01:23 | <vagrantc> there might be some sort of DEBUG variable to set, i remember from vague memory
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| 01:24 | tweak the files themselves to log output....
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| 01:24 | <Enslaver> nm its not even making it that far
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| 01:25 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 01:25 | <vagrantc> good luck
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| 16:10 | <ltspuser_50> hi
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| 16:31 | <otwieracz> Hello.
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| 16:31 | Can anybody explain how "ltsp-client" should work?
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| 16:31 | For example, I have laptop with Ubuntu and Gentoo-based LTSP server.
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| 16:32 | Can I somehow connect to my LTSP server from Ubuntu?
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