IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 September 2019 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:58 | <eu^6213070dsldyn> alkisg καλημερα
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| 08:59 | alkisg τελικα να βαλω 32 ή 64 bit σε server με παλιο pendium4 prescott με 1.5gb ram; Ολοιδια και τα fat clients...
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| 09:01 | <alkisg> Καλημέρα eu^6213070dsldyn
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| 09:01 | Είσαι σε λάθος κανάλι, αυτό είναι το αγγλκό
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| 09:01 | Για να μπεις στο ελληνικό, γράψε: /join #ts.sch.gr
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| 09:02 | Αλλά πάντως σε p4 βάλε 32bit
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| 09:02 | Δεν έχουν αρκετή RAM για 64ρι
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| 09:32 | <eu^6213070dsldyn> alkisg πως λεγεται το Ελληνικο καναλι;
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| 09:33 | <alkisg> eu^6213070dsldyn: kala irthes prin
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| 13:02 | <MWALTERS> prescott p4... that's a nice electric space heater ;)
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| 13:02 | a touch inefficient, though
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| 13:22 | <fiesh> aren't all electric heaters of the same efficieny simply by preservation of energy?
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| 13:29 | <MWALTERS> I'm sure there are differences based on the elements used... and if there's a thermostat, passive heating elements... etc, etc
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| 13:30 | In, the US... generally any electric heater will be around 1250watt max as well, since most electrical receptacles are rated for 15amp peaks... despite most branch circuits (installed in the last 25 years) being rated for 20amps
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| 13:31 | To use the 20watt, you need a "winky face" receptacle, which most homes don't have installed normally
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| 13:31 | eer, 20amp
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| 13:31 | the more you know (tm)
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| 13:33 | The US electrical standards are super wonky... and I'm fairly sure they're designed to encourage you to electrocute yourself.
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| 13:33 | particularly with how our receptacles and plugs are designed
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| 13:35 | I'm fairly certain, everyone who grew up in the US has a story from when they were little and either: shoved something metal in a receptacle... or touched an exposed conductor while plugging it in... and not remembering the next few seconds ;)
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| 13:37 | <MWALTERS> Phoneblocks, though... the bane of my existence currently... we still have some POTS blocks for our fax machines... lower voltage DC... just a nice tingle... until the phone rings... then it's like 90v AC... all the blocks seem to be mounted in such a way to encourage you to press your arm against them while working on a switch or server...
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| 13:41 | <fiesh> I don't see how there could be a variation in efficiency without violation of the law of conservation of energy
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| 13:42 | that does not mean I will argue against the American electrical standards being preposterously awful ;)
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| 13:42 | <MWALTERS> You're assuming every manufacturer uses the same quality of conductor or elements
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| 13:42 | <fiesh> one of the best things of being back to Europe is not having to deal with the outlets and the shitty voltage and the awful appliances
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| 13:42 | <MWALTERS> and there wouldn't be ineffeciencies elsewhere in the appliance
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| 13:42 | <fiesh> no, it makes no difference what they use
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| 13:42 | <MWALTERS> effeciency as measured by the heat output vs wh consumed
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| 13:43 | effective heat ouput?
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| 13:43 | <fiesh> efficience is the amount of thermal power generated per amount of electrical power put in
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| 13:43 | it'll be 1
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| 13:43 | there's no other way
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| 13:44 | now heat exchangers are an entirely different story and of course have an efficiency above 1
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| 13:44 | <MWALTERS> You're talking about AC/Heat pump... absolutely
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| 13:44 | <fiesh> but I guess we're way off topic
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| 13:44 | <MWALTERS> lol ;)
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| 13:44 | <fiesh> but any electrical heater will have an efficiency of 1
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| 13:44 | no matter if it's a radiator or your CPU
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| 13:45 | <MWALTERS> I'm not sure if I totally agree with that, but my understanding of how it all works is layman at best ;)
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| 13:45 | I know enough to not electrocute myself... most of the time ;)
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| 13:45 | (or start a fire... most of the time)
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| 13:45 | not
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| 13:45 | ...eh, either way that sentence is accurate
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| 13:45 | <fiesh> if you manage to beat it, you have accomplished the biggest physical breakthrough in the history of mankind ;-)
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| 13:47 | <MWALTERS> I still think there are other opportunities for thermal "loss", in areas that don't effectively radiate into the room being heated... or not radiated... convected? Can't remember the right word...
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| 13:48 | I mean, I guess eventually it will no matter what
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