IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 20 February 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:48 | <autoditac> hi. is it possible to export other than usb-storage devices from the thin client to the users session, e.g. usb based chipcard terminals?
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| 04:53 | http://www.libchipcard.de/
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| 05:22 | <maarek> hi, anyone have flash player or firefox lag in ltsp?
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| 05:22 | my firefox takes for som users like 30-70% cpu usage, and slows the other users alot down
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| 05:22 | like a lag or smtg
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| 05:23 | seems like its related to flash. as with sites with alot of flash, the cpu usage goes up really much.
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| 05:48 | <jhp> Hi, I've got a little problem. I'm trying to create a config for a system that is different from the big batch, and should therefor not read the default config. But it seems that it takes the default config anyway. Is it correct that if you define an alternate config that it takes the default config and extents this with the options from the alternate config?
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| 05:48 | I use LTSP 4.x
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| 05:49 | It's a Fedora 7 system with ltsp-utils installed and from that I have build the LTSP config.
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| 06:08 | <whiskey29_> hey everybody
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| 06:09 | tobe honest this is my firs irc chat after about 11 years ;)
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| 06:34 | <johnny> ls
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| 09:19 | <alumno02> hi
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| 09:19 | i havent sound in clients, i use edubuntu 7.10
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| 10:35 | <daya> Does anyone have tried to build lstp without nfs as in edubuntu 7.10 in Debian etch or leeny
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| 10:35 | sorry lstp ---> ltsp
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| 11:46 | <cesar_> ..
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| 11:50 | <cesar_> ups
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| 11:50 | sorry
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| 11:52 | <ogra_cmpc> is your cat male or female ?
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| 11:52 | :)
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| 12:05 | <rockas> hello all!
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| 12:07 | <rockas> is it possible to setup diskless server and add 1 more hdd and preform different installation of distro for each different diskless workstation, and chroot that instead of real server?
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| 12:10 | <ogra_cmpc> thats something we do with the ubuntu livecd on conferences ... there is a howto on the ubuntu wiki for that somewhere
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| 12:11 | <ogra_cmpc> but since that depends on ubuntu boot technology i have no clue how much you have to do for other distros
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| 12:12 | <rockas> well at least thats a start :)
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| 12:12 | can you please point me to howto please
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| 12:12 | <ogra_cmpc> no, you need to search, i dont have it here
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| 12:13 | wiki.ubuntu.com
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| 12:13 | <rockas> or at least tell what keywords to search on it :) i would gladly do so
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| 12:13 | <ogra_cmpc> livecd netboot or so
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| 12:15 | <rockas> cool just quick question,
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| 12:16 | <rockas> is that howto related for ltsp setup aswell right
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| 12:16 | <ogra_cmpc> nope
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| 12:17 | but the server side setup is very similar
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| 12:18 | <Gadi> hey, ogra_cmpc: what did you wind up using for a browser on the cmpc?
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| 12:18 | still ff?
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| 12:18 | <ogra_cmpc> heh
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| 12:18 | w3m currently :P
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| 12:19 | <Gadi> seriously?
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| 12:19 | <ogra_cmpc> ff3 works ok but eats all ressources ... no way to have mail, xchat and browser running at the same time
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| 12:19 | if you use it standalone its fine though
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| 12:19 | <Gadi> ff3 better than ff2?
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| 12:19 | <ogra_cmpc> aeons better
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| 12:20 | i also wrote my own little browser in XUL recently
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| 12:20 | <Gadi> is there a gutsy deb for it?
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| 12:20 | <ogra_cmpc> sadly not ready for promotion yet
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| 12:20 | <Gadi> (ff3 - that is)
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| 12:20 | <ogra_cmpc> nope
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| 12:20 | ad you ff3 is a lot more
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| 12:21 | you need xulrunner and friends as well
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| 12:21 | <Gadi> ?
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| 12:21 | <ogra_cmpc> its not monpolithic anymore
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| 12:21 | <Gadi> hmm
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| 12:21 | so, not exactly a drop-in replace?
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| 12:22 | is it stable ?
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| 12:22 | ie do plugins and add-ons and such work
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| 12:22 | <ogra_cmpc> yeah
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| 12:23 | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LightBrowser
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| 12:23 | did i show you that one ?
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| 12:24 | toook me a sunday afternoon to write, uses all firefox plugins and eats less than 10M without pages loaded
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| 12:24 | <cliebow_> Arrrrrrrrghhhhhh
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| 12:24 | <Gadi> cute
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| 12:24 | <ogra_cmpc> xul is cool !
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| 12:24 | <Gadi> can I steal it?
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| 12:24 | :)
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| 12:24 | <ogra_cmpc> if i upload the code :P
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| 12:24 | * Gadi is looking for a nice kiosk-style browser | |
| 12:25 | <Gadi> looks perfect
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| 12:25 | <ogra_cmpc> well
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| 12:25 | <rockas> heya you mean on this links ?
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| 12:25 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
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| 12:25 | <ogra_cmpc> it cant open additional windows or tabs
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| 12:25 | on purpose
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| 12:25 | that gets problematic on somewites
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| 12:25 | *some sites
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| 12:25 | <Gadi> ah
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| 12:26 | <ogra_cmpc> it also has no download handler (yet) and no actions defined for right click
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| 12:26 | <Gadi> well, thas perfect
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| 12:26 | * Gadi would want to get rid of those | |
| 12:26 | <Gadi> but, having multiple windows/tabs would be useful
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| 12:27 | <Gadi> especially for sites that want to open them
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| 12:28 | <cliebow_> what is -R switch for patch?
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| 12:29 | <Gadi> cliebow_: its if the patch was created new-> old instead of old->new
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| 12:30 | <cliebow_> ohhh thanks..
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| 12:31 | i see why it is wonky now
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| 12:32 | <ogra_cmpc> Gadi, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LightBrowser/lightbrowser.tgz
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| 12:32 | needs at least xulrunner-1.8
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| 12:33 | * Gadi just installed ff3 | |
| 12:33 | <Gadi> seemed to drop in just fine
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| 12:33 | :)
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| 12:33 | <ogra_cmpc> well, the beta isntr supposed to touch your ff2 data yet
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| 12:34 | <ogra_cmpc> (apart from copying bookmarks)
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| 12:34 | and the ssl cert handling *really* sucks
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| 12:34 | <ogra_cmpc> at least for self signed certs where you need an exception
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| 12:35 | <Gadi> Error: Gecko MinVersion requirement not met.
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| 12:35 | <ogra_cmpc> for what ?
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| 12:35 | <Gadi> lightbrowser
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| 12:35 | <ogra_cmpc> lightbrowser
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| 12:35 | ah
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| 12:35 | dpkg -l xulrunner ?
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| 12:36 | <Gadi> just installed it
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| 12:36 | <ogra_cmpc> i thought gutsy had 1.8
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| 12:36 | <Gadi> ii xulrunner 1.8.1.4-2ubunt XUL + XPCOM application runner
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| 12:36 | <ogra_cmpc> MinVersion=1.9b1
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| 12:36 | ah
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| 12:37 | i changed that
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| 12:37 | it should run with 1.8
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| 12:37 | <Gadi> ok, me tries
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| 12:37 | <ogra_cmpc> just edit the application/ini
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| 12:37 | application.ini
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| 12:37 | <Gadi> cute
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| 12:37 | that works
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| 12:38 | <ogra_cmpc> i'm also just falling in love with balsa on the cmpc
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| 12:40 | * ogra_cmpc has currently the slickest little desktop he can imagine on the cmpc ... sadly only one of the apps i run here is not in universe ... | |
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| 12:41 | <Q-FUNK> cmpc?
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| 12:41 | <ogra_cmpc> Q-FUNK, classmate
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| 12:42 | <Q-FUNK> ah yes
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| 12:43 | <Q-FUNK> here, we actually have a design ready for a laptop that would boot off coreboot and would be more "adult" in intent than the OLPC.
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| 12:43 | <ogra_cmpc> 800x480 screen ... only 256M and a CPU that has no L2 cache
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| 12:43 | <Q-FUNK> the main issue is finding enough firm orders to justify producing it.
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| 12:43 | <ogra_cmpc> which means it sometimes behaves like 133MHz
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| 12:43 | i love the cpmc design
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| 12:44 | <Q-FUNK> right. what we have as a desing is a lot more potent than that, CPU-wise.
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| 12:44 | <ogra_cmpc> since i got the dev device i use it actually every day
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| 12:44 | <Q-FUNK> aye
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| 12:44 | <ogra_cmpc> just make sure to rather spend money on more ram than CPU speed
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| 12:45 | <Q-FUNK> no problem with that
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| 12:45 | <ogra_cmpc> that thing here would likely run better with a 500MHz cpu with L2 cache and 512M ... and still cost the same i guess
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| 12:45 | <Q-FUNK> probably
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| 12:45 | ok, bbl
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| 12:46 | cat /dev/beer
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| 12:46 | <ogra_cmpc> goood idea !!!!
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| 12:47 | <Gadi> u aint kiddin about the ssl cert handling
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| 12:47 | so much for single click simplicity
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| 12:47 | but, I do like the mac-style combobox rendering
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| 12:47 | <ogra_cmpc> of the url field ?
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| 12:48 | or where
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| 12:48 | <Gadi> no, on pages with comboboxes
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| 12:48 | <ogra_cmpc> ah
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| 12:48 | <Gadi> or "pulldowns"
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| 12:48 | <ogra_cmpc> well, it just uses the gtk theme
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| 12:48 | <Gadi> or "select" fields
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| 12:48 | yeah, thats new
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| 12:48 | <ogra_cmpc> that patch is ages old
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| 12:48 | i used it in warty
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| 12:48 | <Gadi> my ff2 doesnt do that
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| 12:48 | <ogra_cmpc> but couldnt confince our ff maintainer
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| 12:49 | the original patch is for 1.5
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| 12:49 | <Gadi> ah
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| 12:49 | guess they pushed it upstream?
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| 12:49 | <ogra_cmpc> yeah
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| 12:49 | since the beginning
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| 12:49 | butg upstream didnt really care for quite some time
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| 12:50 | ff3 is awesome if it comes to scaling
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| 12:50 | <Gadi> the url pulldown takes some getting used to
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| 12:50 | but, I sppose its nice
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| 12:50 | <ogra_cmpc> the ur pulldown makes me mad
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| 12:50 | <Gadi> lol
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| 12:50 | <ogra_cmpc> about 30% of the time i go to the wrong pages
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| 12:51 | <Gadi> scaling as in zoom in/out?
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| 12:51 | <ogra_cmpc> if youre no mouse addict and click on the list its pretty bad
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| 12:51 | yeah
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| 12:51 | ctrl+/-
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| 12:51 | it scales the complete page including the images
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| 12:51 | <Gadi> ah
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| 12:51 | <ogra_cmpc> ff2 only scaled fonts
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| 12:52 | * Gadi never uses the zoom | |
| 12:52 | <ogra_cmpc> well
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| 12:52 | <Gadi> but, its neat
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| 12:52 | <ogra_cmpc> i'm on a classmate
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| 12:52 | comes in very handy if you quickly want to see the whole page :)
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| 12:53 | <Gadi> so, is the whole of lightbrowser in lightbrowser.jar?
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| 12:53 | <alumno04> hi
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| 12:53 | <ogra_cmpc> Gadi, well, and application.ini and the lightbrowser script
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| 12:54 | <alumno04> I use edubuntu 7.10 (ltsp5), i havent sound in clients
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| 12:54 | I have SOUND=yes flag in lts.conf
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| 12:54 | <ogra_cmpc> not needed
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| 12:54 | <alumno04> but it still doesn't work
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| 12:55 | <ogra_cmpc> are your users in the audio group ?
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| 12:55 | <alumno04> yes they are
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| 12:55 | <Gadi> take SOUND=yes out
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| 12:55 | <alumno04> ok, then reboot a client to test it, right?
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| 12:55 | <Gadi> yup
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| 12:55 | <alumno04> ok, wait
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| 12:55 | <Gadi> also, are you running KDE?
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| 12:56 | * ogra_cmpc wouldnt expect kde when being told edubuntu :) | |
| 12:56 | <Gadi> ogra_cmpc: #1 rule of supporting users: assume nothing
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| 12:56 | <alumno04> im running ldm with icewm, so light
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| 12:57 | <ogra_cmpc> aha
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| 12:57 | <Gadi> (read: assume the opposite of what you expect)
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| 12:57 | see
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| 12:57 | :)
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| 12:57 | <alumno04> Do i comment that too-> SOUND_DAEMON=pulse ?
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| 12:57 | <Gadi> yes
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| 12:57 | <ogra_cmpc> both isnt needed
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| 12:57 | <Gadi> both arent needed
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| 12:58 | neither is needed
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| 12:58 | the girl aint worth it
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| 12:58 | * ogra_cmpc ponders a note in lts.conf for gutsy #### DONT USE THIS FILE AT ALL !!!! EVER !!! IT WILL EAT YOUR FIRSTBORN !!!!! ##### | |
| 12:58 | <ogra_cmpc> ERR
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| 12:59 | hadry indeed
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| 12:59 | <Gadi> heh
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| 12:59 | <alumno04> ok, client booting...
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| 12:59 | * ogra_cmpc cant spell today | |
| 13:00 | <ogra_cmpc> Intrepid Ibex ....
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| 13:00 | (training for next release :P)
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| 13:00 | <Gadi> no way
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| 13:00 | <ogra_cmpc> sure
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| 13:00 | <Gadi> say it aint so
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| 13:00 | <ogra_cmpc> he announced it 2h ago
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| 13:00 | <Gadi> omg
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| 13:00 | <ogra_cmpc> on itchy iguana as we all hoped
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| 13:00 | <Gadi> somebody has to put a stop to this
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| 13:00 | <ogra_cmpc> *no
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| 13:03 | <Gadi> oh! I can open 2 lightbrowser instances
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| 13:03 | thats cool
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| 13:03 | so, there's the new window sort of
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| 13:03 | :)
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| 13:03 | <ogra_cmpc> heh
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| 13:04 | well, first you need to teach it to take commandline args :P
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| 13:04 | else opening a new win will only get you home
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| 13:05 | <Gadi> shouldn't be too much hacking for that
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| 13:05 | <ogra_cmpc> no, indeed
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| 13:05 | <Gadi> this is actually perfect for my needs, if I can get it to open a new window
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| 13:05 | <ogra_cmpc> another day with the code would make it feature complete i think
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| 13:05 | <Gadi> does it handle popups at all?
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| 13:05 | <ogra_cmpc> nope
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| 13:06 | <Gadi> even tho they are javascript
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| 13:06 | <ogra_cmpc> i wanteld to have a lock mode that disables the 'add bookmarks' and 'quit' buttons
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| 13:07 | <Gadi> ah, I see - it opens in the same window
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| 13:07 | thats not altogether bad
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| 13:07 | <alumno04> Gadi: now volume in totem is deactivated in clients
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| 13:08 | <Gadi> alumno04: start slow: open a terminal window and run: aplay <some wav file>
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| 13:09 | <ogra_cmpc> even better oaste the content of your .asoundrc.asoundconf and the outout of the env command to the pastebin
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| 13:09 | <alumno04> ok
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| 13:09 | <ogra_cmpc> s/oaste/paste/
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| 13:09 | !pastebot
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| 13:09 | <ltspbot> ogra_cmpc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 13:10 | <Gadi> weird - it says it added the bookmark, but the bookmark is nowhere to be found
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| 13:10 | <alumno04> Gadi: *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused
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| 13:10 | aplay: main:545: error al abrir audio: Conexión rechazada
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| 13:11 | <Gadi> alumno04: what type of thin client is it?
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| 13:11 | perhaps the driver for the sound card did not load properly
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| 13:11 | <ogra_cmpc> Gadi, i use the firefox infrastructure, might be it needs a mkdir -p or so
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| 13:11 | <alumno04> ebox, is diskless, sis chipset, sis7019 soundcard
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| 13:11 | <ogra_cmpc> i havent looked into that yet
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| 13:12 | <Gadi> alumno04: I dont believe there is a driver for sis7019 in the kernel
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| 13:12 | <ogra_cmpc> no, there isnt
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| 13:12 | not in kernel 2.6 at all
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| 13:13 | <alumno04> humm, it should be the problem? since in tty1 i do lspci|grep audio and i get that info
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| 13:13 | humm I see...
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| 13:13 | <ogra_cmpc> yes, thats your prob
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| 13:13 | no driver, no sound
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| 13:14 | <alumno04> ok, thanks a lot!, now i've tried to compile but i got errors
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| 13:14 | <ogra_cmpc> there is some (not legally licensed) oss driver code floating around in the net for that chipset ... but your mileage may vary
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| 13:14 | <alumno04> hummm
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| 13:15 | sis7019-oss-driver_0.1.orig.tar
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| 13:15 | <Gadi> yeah, Ive got a tarball for that driver from 2003
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| 13:15 | <ogra_cmpc> Gadi, for 2.4
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| 13:15 | the 2.6 code stopped working after 2.6.16
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| 13:16 | <Gadi> yup
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| 13:16 | 2.4
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| 13:16 | dont know if it works - I have no eboxes
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| 13:16 | <ogra_cmpc> heh
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| 13:16 | <Gadi> I compiled it as a favor for someone for LTSP 4.something
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| 13:16 | <alumno04> i got this file, but when i tried to compile, i got errors:
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| 13:16 | <Gadi> at some point
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| 13:17 | <alumno04> ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.
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| 13:17 | include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing.
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| 13:17 | Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it.
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| 13:17 | <ogra_cmpc> i had it working with 2.6.18 at some point
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| 13:17 | but on the ebox it was so choppy it wasnt worth the effort
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| 13:17 | the thing is that its oss
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| 13:17 | which isnt properly mintained in the kernel anymore
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| 13:17 | <Gadi> can those boxes use sb ?
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| 13:18 | * vagrantc wonders if a usb sound device wouldn't work | |
| 13:18 | <ogra_cmpc> nope
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| 13:18 | vagrantc, it would\
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| 13:18 | <alumno04> i do make oldconfig && make prepare and i got: a LOT of errors like:
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| 13:18 | scripts/basic/fixdep.c:107:23: error: sys/types.h: No existe el fichero ó directorio (filename doesn't exist)
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| 13:19 | <ogra_cmpc> you are missing header files
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| 13:19 | <alumno04> wow... i downloaded from synaptic..
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| 13:20 | i'll try again..
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| 13:20 | * vagrantc waits impatiently for the new ldm uploads to hit unstable | |
| 13:20 | <ogra_cmpc> did you add anything exciting i should care about ?
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| 13:21 | <vagrantc> ogra_cmpc: not much
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| 13:21 | <ogra_cmpc> (my checkout was on the 12th)
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| 13:23 | <alumno04> it compiled :)
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| 13:24 | <vagrantc> ogra_cmpc: i applied your patch to only ask passwords once, some minor improvements to LDM_THEME, dropped the date from the timestring (gadi), entry fields aren't editable while displaying status messages (gadi), ip address displayed in the greeter gets passed to ldm ...
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| 13:24 | <alumno04> but it didn't install: make: *** No hay ninguna regla para construir el objetivo `install'. Alto. :/
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| 13:24 | (there's not rules to build...
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| 13:24 | <vagrantc> ogra_cmpc: er, ip address from ldm gets passed to the greeter (rather than a different implementation of get_ip in the greeter that's got eth0 hard-coded)
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| 13:25 | ogra_cmpc: so, they're all niceities, but probably nothing major
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| 13:26 | <ogra_cmpc> well, i like them, i'll pull that in as patch
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| 13:26 | you didnt merge the drop of -X ?
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| 13:26 | <vagrantc> ogra_cmpc: yeah, didn't merge that yet. i haven't found an explanation why it's needed.
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| 13:27 | * vagrantc looks at Gadi | |
| 13:27 | <ogra_cmpc> you have a timegap between the first and second ssh call
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| 13:28 | <vagrantc> and this does... ?
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| 13:28 | <ogra_cmpc> if the first one has the -X you already have DISPLAY set to the proxy
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| 13:28 | so everything that gets executed bewtween the two ssh calls will have a differnt display set
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| 13:28 | <vagrantc> ah
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| 13:29 | * vagrantc has always wondered how ~/.Xauthority is handled for LDM_DIRECTX | |
| 13:29 | <ogra_cmpc> the -X in the second call only has impact on the behavior of consolekit
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| 13:29 | which is actually started by sshd
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| 13:30 | so it gets the display value handed over from ssh, not from the commandline
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| 13:30 | <vagrantc> ogra_cmpc: so, based on this ... should we or shouldn't we merge gadi's patch? :)
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| 13:30 | <ogra_cmpc> we shouldnt
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| 13:31 | <ogra_cmpc> without -X consolekit gets no display at all
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| 13:31 | * vagrantc waves to Ryan52 | |
| 13:31 | <ogra_cmpc> and in the end all displays we use point to the clients :6.0
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| 13:32 | either through a proxy to through xauth
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| 13:32 | i agree that we should probably restrict to a single -X call :)
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| 13:32 | but i need to do more CK tests before ... whioch i didnt have time for yet
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| 13:42 | <Gadi> hey, sorry
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| 13:42 | reading history
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| 13:45 | does keeping -X and setting DISPLAY make it go direct?
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| 13:45 | * Gadi thinks it would | |
| 13:45 | <Gadi> in which case, that patch is unnecessary
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| 13:46 | <alumno04> in client filesystem, if i need to put a new .ko module, where i have to put?
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| 13:46 | <Gadi> but, I thought ogra brought it up in the first place bec people said driectx on feisty was better than directx on gutsy
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| 13:46 | and that was the reason
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| 13:47 | <cliebow_> wow everyone dyslectic has become
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| 13:48 | <alumno04> ok, i did it :)
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| 13:56 | <vagrantc> Gadi: well, i haven't ever applied your patch and i've used LDM_DIRECTX very successfully ... so...
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| 13:56 | <Gadi> ah, good
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| 13:56 | then, nm
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| 13:56 | :)
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| 13:56 | <vagrantc> heh :)
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| 13:56 | <ogra_cmpc> Gadi, the complaints were about flash :)
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| 13:57 | that doesnt need to be directx related
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| 13:57 | <Gadi> ohh....
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| 13:57 | <ogra_cmpc> (i thought iu told you that)
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| 13:57 | <Gadi> communication breakdown
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| 13:57 | * Gadi pulls banana out of his ear | |
| 13:59 | <cliebow_> heh!
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| 14:00 | at least not two ears..
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| 14:00 | at least not the Same banana
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| 14:16 | <Gadi> hey, ogra: does ur lightbrowser honor local prefs?
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| 14:16 | or does it only grab prefs from the default preferences folder?
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| 14:19 | <ogra_cmpc> the latter
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| 14:19 | the functions are wrapped by xulrunner already, i saw no need to write my own
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| 14:19 | <Gadi> right - well I can wrapper an argument that sets the default home to the passed URL
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| 14:19 | :)
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| 14:20 | <ogra_cmpc> right
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| 14:21 | * ogra_cmpc wonders who of the two of us is the native english speaker | |
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| 14:21 | * Gadi speaks IM | |
| 14:21 | <ogra_cmpc> Gadi, the man who can wrapper
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| 14:21 | :P
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| 14:22 | <Gadi> hey - wrapper's a tech term
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| 14:22 | :)
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| 14:22 | <ogra_cmpc> heh
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| 14:22 | we have a device called wobbler in germany (actually a sinus generator)
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| 14:22 | not sur eits called like that in en as well
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| 14:23 | <Gadi> you mean a function generator
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| 14:23 | (otherwise it sounds like ur manufacturing noses)
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| 14:24 | <ogra_cmpc> no, its a device with tubes :)
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| 14:24 | used by radio engineers
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| 14:24 | <Gadi> ah - audio oscillator
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| 14:24 | <ogra_cmpc> yeah
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| 14:25 | <Gadi> what made HP rich
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| 14:39 | <cliebow_> hardy artwork is ROcking!
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| 14:40 | the chicken is awesome!
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| 14:42 | <ogra_cmpc> oh, i didnt upgrade today, did they add it
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| 14:42 | i guess thats supposed to be a heron :)
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| 14:43 | <stgraber> yes and it really looks like a Heron, well done
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| 14:45 | <ogra_cmpc> i saw the previews
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| 14:45 | i'll se3e it tomorrow ... i'm to lazy to go to the offic now
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| 14:49 | <cliebow_> Gadi:you havnt got vmware running in hardy have you??
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| 14:49 | <Gadi> nope - and gotta run
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| 14:49 | ciao folks
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| 15:07 | <K_O-Gnom> http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/demo/ <-- nettes demo ... und für 1257,14€ auch nicht zu teuer für nen keyboard
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| 15:09 | <vagrantc> K_O-Gnom: no hablo aleman
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| 15:13 | <cliebow_> man dpkg
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| 15:13 | oops
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| 15:13 | <ogra_cmpc> vagrantc, time you learn it ...
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| 15:14 | <vagrantc> ogra_cmpc: once i'm somewhat competant in spanish and portuguese
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| 15:15 | <K_O-Gnom> vagrantc: sry wrong chan ... the sentence means its for 1257,14€ not to expensive for a keyboard :-D
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| 15:15 | <cliebow_> vagrantc:how to see dependencies for a pkg?
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| 15:15 | <vagrantc> cliebow_: apt-cache show PKG
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| 15:16 | cliebow_: apt-cache show PKG | egrep ^Dep
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| 15:16 | <cliebow_> thank you!
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| 15:20 | <jhp> Hi, I've got a little problem. I'm trying to create a config for a system that is different from the big batch, and should therefor not read the default config. But it seems that it takes the default config anyway. Is it correct that if you define an alternate config that it takes the default config and extents this with the options from the alternate config?
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| 15:21 | It's a Fedora 7 system with ltsp-utils installed and from that I have build the LTSP config.
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| 15:21 | I use LTSP 4.x
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| 17:13 | <warren> case "$MODE" in
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| 17:13 | commandline)
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| 17:13 | add_option "kickstart" "`eval_gettext "Path to kickstart file"`" "advanced" "true"
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| 17:13 | add_option "cachedir" "`eval_gettext "Path to chroot-creator cachedir"`" "advanced" "true"
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| 17:14 | how am I supposed to pass options to ltps-build-client from the command line?
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| 17:14 | I tried ltsp-build-client --cachedir /path/to/something
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| 17:14 | and it ended up calling it "true"
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| 17:21 | <Al-Khouli> hi guys, i want to perform benchmarking on LTSP, does anyone have any idea about tools and ways that might be of a benefit ??!
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| 21:14 | <warren> hmm
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| 21:14 | /usr/lib/ltsp/ is going to be a problematic thing for ltsp-client
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| 21:14 | it violates packaging guidelines of fedora
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| 21:14 | I know it is hard coded in many places though
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| 21:15 | I'll just package it this way for now
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| 21:15 | The reason it violates packaging guidelines is because you can't assume /usr/lib is always to be used
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| 21:16 | it could be /usr/lib64
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| 21:20 | hmm, fedora doesn't use start-stop-daemon
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| 21:27 | <warren> Hmm, the initscripts are pretty much unusable for us
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| 21:27 | we do things in different ways
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| 21:27 | I guess I should just write them from scratch
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| 21:30 | <chup> y'all see the eclipse?
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| 21:31 | <warren> where does jetpipe get installed?
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| 21:31 | or does jetpipe belong in its own package?
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| 21:43 | <RyanRyan52> chup: it was kewl :P
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| 21:46 | <chup> too cloudy here
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