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Channel log from 18 November 2019 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:08 | <alkisg> eddyTV: there was a similar change in ubuntu docker containers, where they switched to --no-install-recommends, which is actually against debian policy recommendations
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| 06:09 | You can see the results; it's like you need to maintain the list of dependencies yourself; it doesn't sound good
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| 06:09 | It would be better if you could use --no-install-recommends *just* for lightdm, not for all the system
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| 07:45 | <enoch112> goo morning!
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| 07:45 | good*
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| 07:45 | <alkisg> 'morning enoch112
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| 07:46 | <enoch112> still no luck with applying this: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1386161&sid=d7e491583d9ae3a7eda0524c37fd6452#p1386161
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| 07:46 | I had high hopes but maximum clients at the same time are around 11-15
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| 07:46 | <alkisg> I'm guessing you mean that this isn't the solution to your problem...
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| 07:46 | <enoch112> only 12 are shown in epoptesthough
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| 07:46 | yes
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| 07:46 | <alkisg> Yeah, start with monitoring journalctl when booting the 15th client
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| 07:46 | <enoch112> I will try now
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| 07:47 | <alkisg> There are *millions* of things you could try; but this isn't the right approach, it would take ages
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| 07:47 | You should focus on detecting the problem, not guessing it
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| 07:47 | <enoch112> you're absolutely correct
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| 12:37 | <tarzeau> is ltsp5 or ltsp recommended with ubuntu 20.04 LTS? what about debian buster or bullseye?
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| 12:38 | and ltsp server now will be linux only, right?
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| 12:39 | what about ldm?
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| 12:39 | <uumas> ltsp19 is recommended for all new setups as ltsp5 is mostly unmaintained at this point.
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| 12:39 | Ltsp has always been linux only. Ldm isn't used in the new ltsp. It uses a pam module for authentication.
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| 13:25 | <douglas_br> Hello!
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| 13:46 | <alkisg> Hi douglas_br
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| 13:47 | tarzeau: bulleye already has the new ltsp, and so will ubuntu 20.04 in a couple of weeks or so
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| 13:49 | <tarzeau> alkisg: i know that sid and 20.04 (proposed) have it, but bullseye certainly doesn't have it according to https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ltsp also only for sid listed at https://packages.debian.org/sid/ltsp
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| 13:50 | but yeah i can understand you want the new one quickly
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| 13:50 | <alkisg> tarzeau: ah sorry it needs a few days to get from unstable to testing
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| 13:50 | <tarzeau> will it work without dnsmasq ?
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| 13:50 | <alkisg> We have a page that describes isc-dhcp-server
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| 13:50 | Also, tftpd-hpa can be used,
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| 13:51 | and an external dhcp server etc can also be used
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| 13:51 | It's just that dnsmasq is that some `ltsp xx` commands support
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| 13:51 | If one installs something else, he'd need to provide a configuration file for it...
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| 13:51 | <tarzeau> you're also using the debian/control Vcs fields wrong
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| 13:52 | <alkisg> Which part?
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| 13:52 | I think I just copied what vagrant had in epoptes there
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| 13:52 | <douglas_br> mini pcs (not raspberry pi) can be used for LTSP clients? what does processors start from? I did see some AMD E-something I do not like amd series c e not good and Intel J....so what the best choice to start from for clients?
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| 13:52 | <tarzeau> https://sources.debian.org/src/ltsp/19.11-1/debian/control/ lines 9 and 10
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| 13:52 | <alkisg> tarzeau: yeah I meant, what would be the correct values there?
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| 13:53 | !cheap-client | echo douglas_br:
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| 13:53 | <ltspbot> douglas_br: cheap-client: https://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-c_11262/?attr=2081-1279
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| 13:53 | <alkisg> You can also use raspberries for ltsp clients
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| 13:53 | <tarzeau> and you should not ship debian/ with upstream tarballs
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| 13:53 | alkisg: something with salsa.debian.org ;)
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| 13:54 | not with network boot though?
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| 13:54 | <alkisg> tarzeau: I know that normally, debian packaging is done separately, but afaik, it's supported to have upstream ship a debian dir
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| 13:54 | (03:54:03 PM) tarzeau: not with network boot though? ==> which part, raspberries? Sure, they do support netbooting
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| 13:54 | <tarzeau> not the 1, 2, and 4 :)
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| 13:54 | <alkisg> And now ipxe starts supporting raspberries too
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| 13:55 | I do have rpi 2, 3 and 4 booting from ltsp19
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| 13:55 | I don't have 1 because I don't have rpi1 :)
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| 13:56 | <douglas_br> owww ltspbot these clients works fine?
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| 13:56 | <alkisg> douglas_br: ltspbot is still a bot, not a human
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| 13:56 | * alkisg guesses the new "ltspbot" name, vs the old "ltsp", doesn't help much :/ | |
| 13:57 | <alkisg> douglas_br: we use the ltspbot program to keep notes
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| 13:57 | And then show them to irc users
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| 13:57 | <douglas_br> I am stupid heehhee
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| 13:58 | <enoch8585> alkisg so I'm about to file a bug upstream regarding the flickering/blanking DP monitor, but I have no clue what to provide and what do write
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| 13:58 | <douglas_br> right alkisg
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| 13:58 | <alkisg> (03:53:31 PM) tarzeau: and you should not ship debian/ with upstream tarballs => also there, why not? IMHO it would be best if there were *no* debian packagers, just upstream packagers shipping a debian dir, and I'm trying to make my own packages that way
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| 13:59 | <enoch8585> I'm currently stadning here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/xrandr/issues
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| 13:59 | is that even the right place to be?
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| 13:59 | <alkisg> enoch8585: I would do this: install debian testing, which is the latest famous distribution that supports i386, in a usb stick or disk, boot your pc with just a dp screen so that people aren't confused by dual screens etc, and then file it in freedesktop
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| 14:00 | enoch8585: well not xrandr, but xorg, yes, it's the correct place
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| 14:00 | <douglas_br> alkisg you recommend use raspberry pi or is better slim pc clients
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| 14:00 | <tarzeau> alkisg: the point is upstream packagers often get things wrong :) they should concentrate on the software
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| 14:00 | <alkisg> enoch8585: find the intel drm part
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| 14:00 | * enoch8585 is looking around in Gitlab | |
| 14:00 | <alkisg> tarzeau: I'm 100% against that thought. Linux would be a better place if upstream did the packaging.
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| 14:01 | douglas_br: slim pc. They're 20-50 times faster than raspberries
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| 14:01 | <tarzeau> and if upstream does it only with dockerfile? appimage? snap? flat? rpm? deb?
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| 14:01 | <alkisg> tarzeau: no no no. They would be normal debian maintainers, with all the bells and whistels
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| 14:01 | <tarzeau> or upstream can't make binaries for sparc64?
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| 14:02 | <alkisg> E.g. simon that creates dnsmasq is also debian maintainer
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| 14:02 | You don't need to kick him and put another maintainer in his place
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| 14:02 | As long as he cares about debian AND upstream, he's the ideal person
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| 14:03 | About docker/snap/flat/rpm/deb etc, hopefully at some point a single file will be able to build all targets
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| 14:03 | Sure, that will take a long time, because distro maintainers aren't the upstream maintainers
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| 14:03 | For some reason the focus there is all wrong
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| 14:04 | <enoch8585> here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel ?
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| 14:05 | <alkisg> enoch8585: I believe so
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| 14:06 | enoch8585: have a local debian testing (it can even run over the network if you don't want to spend a usb stick / disk) there for weeks/months until this is resolved,
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| 14:06 | to be able to test whatever they tell you to, build packages, apply patches etc
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| 14:08 | <tarzeau> well i'm sorry redhat hat to reinvent a package manager, 3 years after debian already had dpkg adding complexitiy in linux binary package distribution
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| 14:08 | meanwhile canonical and a bunch of others did make it even worse
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| 14:09 | <alkisg> tarzeau: true; but why did you start with "debian", and not something like appdata, which doesn't mention "redhat"?
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| 14:09 | <tarzeau> appdata? freedesktop.org ?
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| 14:09 | <alkisg> If debian opted for package metadata, instead of packaging policy, that metadata could be easily reused for other packaging
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| 14:09 | Yes
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| 14:09 | <tarzeau> nobody forbids you reuseing debian metadata, or?
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| 14:10 | even now (or 10 years ago) debian metadata was easy to re-use
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| 14:10 | i've done it for some deb2soliars-pkg packaging
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| 14:10 | and deb2freebsd-ports
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| 14:10 | <alkisg> They don't intent to be distro-agnostic, they weren't designed for that
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| 14:10 | <tarzeau> did anyone else design it to be portable? no if you ask me
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| 14:11 | <alkisg> But anyway, what's done is done; I prefer to steer things to what I feel is best for the community, within the bounds of what I am allowed to do
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| 14:11 | <tarzeau> chocolatey, machomebrew, freebsd, everyone is using their own meta data
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| 14:11 | <alkisg> So, e.g., I uninstall snapd right after installing ubuntu
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| 14:11 | Right,I don't suggest that those do things better
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| 14:11 | <tarzeau> we're also getting rid of snapd :)
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| 14:11 | <alkisg> But, if all upstream including packaging info, of the same format, then distributions could start using that
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| 14:11 | <tarzeau> and building our own chromium packages in our own reprepro repository
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| 14:12 | it's just that not all software is only for linux
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| 14:12 | <alkisg> There can be a windows/ dir too
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| 14:13 | In my ideal world, a packaging/ dir would have the common info, and debian/ or windows/ etc dirs would have OS or distro specific info
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| 14:13 | And in many cases, they wouldn't be needed, packaging/ would be enough
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| 14:14 | And all those would be maintained upstream, shipped in .tar.gz, and excluded from the distros at build time
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| 14:15 | makefiles work in windows too, making packaging work in windows isn't too weird
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| 14:15 | <tarzeau> there's no such ideal world
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| 14:15 | people moved to qmake meanwhile
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| 14:15 | <alkisg> But we can push towards it, even in little baby steps
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| 14:15 | <tarzeau> cmake i mean
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| 14:15 | my ideal world doesn't have systemd :)
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| 14:15 | <alkisg> Ah, I do love that part
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| 14:16 | It minimizes diversity!
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| 14:16 | <tarzeau> it just breaks stuff and makes debugging hard (for me)
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| 14:16 | <alkisg> After spending hundreds of hours just for making the software run in *other distros*, one starts to hate diversity
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| 14:16 | <enoch8585> alkisg sorry, I have no history here in freenode, could you please try to find that link I sent regarding this issue? It was a link to bugs.launchpad something something
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| 14:16 | <alkisg> (04:04:37 PM) enoch8585: here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel ?
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| 14:16 | <enoch8585> no
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| 14:16 | a while back
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| 14:16 | like last week
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| 14:17 | it described my issue and steps to repoduce
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| 14:17 | <alkisg> http://devs.ts.sch.gr temporarily holds irclogs
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| 14:17 | Go there and search for what you mean
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| 14:17 | <enoch8585> perfect
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| 14:17 | thanks
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| 14:17 | <alkisg> enoch8585: it helps a lot if you use the same username
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| 14:17 | I.e. drop the number there
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| 14:18 | You can then search "what enoch said", instead of "what enoch<randomnumber> said"
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| 14:18 | Same for private message logs; if you talk to someone, they can see their log from you
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| 14:22 | <enoch8585> found it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1574617
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| 14:23 | <alkisg> enoch8585: I"m not sure that helps, people there are even saying about bad cable quality. Btw, did you try with another DP cable, to make sure that this isn't to blame?
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| 14:23 | It's also marked duplicate from a bug that stopped after 4.13 kernel
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| 14:24 | <enoch8585> alkisg haven't tried another cable yet
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| 14:24 | so they won't update old kernels?
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| 14:24 | as4.10 is the only one that works it seems
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| 14:24 | <alkisg> enoch8585: you tested with 5.x and it didn't work, so what I mean is that this is NOT YOUR bug
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| 14:24 | You have another bug
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| 14:24 | <enoch8585> ok
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| 14:25 | <alkisg> Spend 5€ and test the cable first; if it works, it would help a lot in solving the bug
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| 14:25 | And test another dp monitor if possible
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| 14:26 | Borrow one if you have to
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| 14:27 | <enoch8585> yeah, will file this bug here so it's out there at least. feels like a mounting to file, this one as I don't have a clue (you did the debugging)
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| 14:28 | <alkisg> If you're not willing to test all these (other monitor, cable, latest debian os), don't bother filling it, it won't help
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| 14:28 | If upstream asks you about feedback, and you take a couple of months to respond, they'll just ignore you after that
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| 14:29 | <enoch8585> I am willing, just want to get this over with (filing)
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| 14:29 | https://pastebin.com/pcK8v64Y
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| 14:29 | that's what I was thinking to file
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| 14:29 | not very much to go on
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> A proper filing is *after* testin monitor, cable and latest drm
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| 14:30 | Right, you said it yourself, "not very much to go on" => will put your issue in a "meh, bad reporter" state
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| 14:30 | <enoch8585> true
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| 14:31 | then better not posting it
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| 14:31 | at all
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> Right
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| 14:31 | Do the tests first, THEN post it
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| 14:31 | monitor, cable, debian testing
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| 14:31 | <enoch8585> but, I don't even know which command to run to debug it properly, you did all that :)
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> Don't run any commands
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| 14:31 | <enoch8585> dmesg
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| 14:32 | journalctl
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| 14:32 | syslog
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| 14:32 | <alkisg> Do those 3 tests above, then just paste dmesg and xorg.log to them
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| 14:32 | <enoch8585> etc
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| 14:32 | <alkisg> Nothing more
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| 14:33 | <enoch8585> ok, tried different monitors already some wont boot at all
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| 14:33 | boot/show anything
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| 14:33 | so, cables
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| 14:33 | right
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| 14:33 | will do that
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| 14:34 | any recomendations regarding cabeling?
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| 14:34 | cables*
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| 14:36 | <douglas_br> its possible clients have access to windows vm in ltsp server?
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| 14:38 | <alkisg> enoch8585: no
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| 14:38 | douglas_br: yes
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| 14:40 | <douglas_br> right
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| 16:03 | <woernie_> hello again, my Networkprinters now work fine on the fatclients. On one fat-client i have a usb printer. I can install it and use it, but on reboot of that cleint it doesn't have the usb printer anymore. Any hints?
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| 16:05 | <alkisg> !printer
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| 16:05 | <ltspbot> printer: Quick how-to: RCFILE_01="/usr/sbin/jetpipe /dev/usb/lp0 9100 &" in lts.conf, reboot client, then go to server's add printer dialog, and specify network printer → jetdirect → ltsp123.local
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| 16:05 | <alkisg> woernie_: that one ^
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| 16:05 | I.e. you expose that printer from the client to the server, then all clients (including this one) see it
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| 16:09 | <woernie_> thanks
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| 16:10 | <alkisg> np
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| 17:28 | <Shah> Hi, I just did an apt-get update on my ubuntu 16.04 system and LTSP stopped working, I was being directed to busybox, I noticed in syslog that dnsmasq was not starting with error log "the port is already in use", I found that this port was being used by tftpd, so I stopped tftpd and then I was able to see tty1 login, but now I am stuck here, found
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| 17:28 | this in syslog "cannot bind to local IPv4 socket: Address already in use" for tftpd, appreciate for any help please, thanks here is my ltsp-infoserver information:No LSB modules are available.Distributor ID: UbuntuDescription: Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTSRelease: 16.04Codename: xenialserver packages:un ldm-server <none>un ltsp-client-core <none>un ltsp-docs
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| 17:28 | <none>ii ltsp-server 5.5.7-1ubuntu1un ltsp-utils <none>un ltspfs <none>packages in chroot: /opt/ltsp/i386ii ldm:i386 2:2.2.18-1un ldm-themes <none>ii ldm-ubuntu-theme 2:2.0.47un ldm-ubuntu-themes <none>ii ltsp-client:i386 5.5.7-1ii ltsp-client-core:i386 5.5.7-1ii ltspfsd 1.4-2ii ltspfsd-core:i386 1.4-2found: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conffound:
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| 17:28 | /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conffound image: /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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| 17:30 | <alkisg> !paste
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| 17:30 | <ltspbot> paste: To avoid channel flooding, please upload text longer than 3 lines to http://paste.debian.net. Don't forget to paste the resulting URL here.
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| 17:30 | <alkisg> Shah: I think the first thing to do would be to update both the server and the chroot with the greek schools ppa
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| 17:30 | !greek-schools-ppa
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| 17:30 | <ltspbot> greek-schools-ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ supports LTS Ubuntu releases with newer LTSP versions, bug fixes etc
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| 17:30 | <alkisg> That said, why do you have both tftpd-hpa and dnsmasq installed?
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| 17:31 | I can have a look via VNC, if you want
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| 17:31 | !vnc-dide
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| 17:31 | <ltspbot> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 17:31 | <Shah> alkisg thank you for reply, actually you had setup this for me a couple of years back
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| 17:31 | <alkisg> Without the greek schools ppa? Strange :)
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| 17:32 | OK, let's VNC so that I take a quick look
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| 17:32 | <Shah> thank, sending
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| 17:32 | sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr
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| 17:32 | ok
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| 17:40 | <alkisg> Shah: you installed too many programs from PPAs and broke apt :)
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| 17:42 | <Shah> hm :(
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| 17:43 | <alkisg> Also, apt upgrade is wrong, use apt full-upgrade
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| 17:43 | apt upgrade prevents proper upgrading
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| 17:43 | (it blocks new packages)
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| 17:44 | <Shah> <3 thank you, also please please do let me know your email, I lost somewhere and now when I saw your nickname I thought it might be you but was confused to ask directly :)
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| 17:45 | <alkisg> alkisg at gmail
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| 17:47 | <Shah> ah great now I found it, Thu, Jan 5, 2017, 9:32 AM from contact at raza.gr :)
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| 17:54 | <Shah> alkisg I see that I didn't reply last email , I was gone for good from Athens, but returned and went into other things, I'll save the address now and send you in email, I also need few guys to hire in Athens, maybe you have some contacts
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| 17:57 | <uumas> alkisg: apt upgrade does install new dependencies. It just refuses to delete previously installed, conflicting packages.
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| 18:25 | <alkisg> Shah, i'll be back in 20 mins
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| 18:26 | <Shah40> ok
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| 18:26 | I got disconnected and reconnected as Shah40
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| 18:47 | <alkisg> 400 package updates :D
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| 18:49 | <Shah40> its a development server , a lot of test cases X-P
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| 18:50 | mostly it was not being used almost a year now
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| 18:52 | <alkisg> Maybe you should just reinstall using ltsp19 then
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| 18:52 | the new ltsp
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| 18:57 | <Shah40> I thought that would be too much hassle to upgrade ubunt/ltsp
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| 18:58 | p.s I have fixed apt-get update & apt-get upgrade by removing broken ppa
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| 18:58 | <alkisg> eh, you need 2 hours updates :D
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| 19:04 | <Shah40> :O
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| 19:13 | <alkisg> Shah40: ok, try to boot a client
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| 19:15 | <Shah40> it is booting to tty1
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| 19:17 | <eu^205215175117> Hi alkisg I think the update to ltsp19.11 re-wrote that line I put somewhere (!) so that the loop devices didn't interfere with remote access and shutdown with epoptes. Sorry I thought I wrote it down but there has been lots of juggling on my end these last few weeks... Do you recall this?
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| 19:18 | I looked for irclogs but am not finding it, and I've not yet put it on the wiki.
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| 19:18 | OH! -- dgroos here...
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| 19:19 | <alkisg> Haha
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| 19:19 | eu^205215175117: yeah it would help a lot if you ran: /nick dgroos
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| 19:19 | :)
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| 19:19 | <eu^205215175117> :-P
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| 19:21 | <alkisg> Shah40: I think while you were trying to fix it, you added dnsmasq options anywhere, even in lts.conf :)
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| 19:21 | I removed them, they were inappropriate
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| 19:21 | dgroos1: I don't remember what line you're talking about, mention a bit more background story there...
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| 19:21 | <dgroos1> bell just rang... going into teacher mode
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| 19:22 | <alkisg> ok
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| 19:22 | <Shah40> @alkisg eistai theos
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| 19:22 | <alkisg> Shah40: all ok now?
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| 19:22 | :D
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| 19:22 | <dgroos1> Will do but probably too late, tomorrow perhaps
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| 19:22 | <alkisg> irclogs are temporarily hosted at devs.ts.sch.gr
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| 19:22 | <Shah40> when are you coming in Athens for beers? O:3
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| 19:22 | <alkisg> It'll be back to irclogs.ltsp.org in a few days
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| 19:23 | Shah40: I'd be 200 Kg if I drunk a beer for each time I helped someone :)
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| 19:24 | <Shah40> haha
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| 19:24 | one question, remember last time you disabled me 2nd monitor , is it possible to run 2 monitors on this thin client?
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| 19:24 | it has 2 dvi outputs
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> I don't see why not
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| 19:33 | <Shah40> couldn't find second cable to connect other monitor right now, I will let you know how it goes
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| 20:34 | <dgroos> alkisg: The problem: sometimes can't log out a user w/epoptes or logout is very slow.
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| 20:35 | Commonly happens if someone was logged into an ltsp19 client, the client locks due to inactivity (and esp if there is a popup window on the screen from eg firefox saying, do you really want to quit).
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| 20:37 | I'll check irclogs, probably wasn't made by my 'dgroos' user, but the web nick.
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