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Im trying to make the pcspeaker to be off on the client but nothing seens to work.. any ideia ?
im creating a new file inside /etc/modprobe.d/ called local with the parameters install pcspkr /bin/true to try to solve the problem to the clients
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cdealer__, look at the blacklist file in teh chroot, add a line "blacklist pcspkr" to it, then you need to run update-initramfs -u, exit the chroot and run ltsp-update-kernels
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ogra: I did what I said and make a ltps-update-image and the client pcspkr was turned off...
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otavio: i'm not sure what's causing the pt_BR translation to break ... when i updated the es translation, the lintian warning from lintian.debian.org went away ...
otavio: but when i run lintian on my own builds, it's fine ...
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otavio: i think the man page issue affects ldm as well ... let's do an upload there fixing the manpage issue, add the debian-maintainer header, and set the priority to medium ....
otavio: if it migrates to testing before ltspfs does, it will break local device support anyways ...
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guys, any idea of a tool to find out which vendor ID a client sends?
I'm trying to debug a new PXE image and it complains that it doesn't receive its TFTP file
I use dnsmasq, with the following options:
supposedly wireshark (a.k.a. ethereal) can help with that
that sounds like what it should be, in theory, at least
i should start testing with dnsmasq
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Q-FUNK: yeah...wireshark should show you option 43 or 60 or something
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otavio: uploaded ltsp, should i wait on ldm to make sure the fix actually works?
otavio: and is it ok to make ldm urgency medium?
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ok, it seems that dnsmasq produces dhcp that some PXE implementations don't like. switching to dhcp3-server suddenly made this work.
however, still no X
but at least now I get something on bootup, which is a good start :)
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otavio: well, i sent you an ldm upload email - not sure if we should actually upload till we can verify that it fixed the issue with ltsp.
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any hint for debuging why X might fail to launch?
Q-FUNK: have you made any modifications to lts.conf ?
I don't use any
this is a fresh chroot for Gutsy
the only change is that I installed newer packages for xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg-video-amd (both known to work fine on a normal Gutsy)
Q-FUNK: does it produce an error message when it fails? does it try to start X, and then switch back to console?
I think it tries to start it, since I hear the monitor making the click it usually does when it tries to change to X
but I'm back to a blinking cursor right after
Q-FUNK: set in lts.conf SCREEN_07=ldm and SCREEN_08=shell ... reboot the thin client, and then switch to vt8 and check /var/log/*
alternately, you can set a root password and rebuild the image ...
ok.. it seems that /etc/dhcp3/ is no longer the location used for dhcpd.conf
vagrantc: about dnsmasq, it seems that when it passes the dhcp options, it misses an end of line character that some fuzzy PXE implementations don't like. various threads exist on the subject, as reported by $searchengine, but upstream never bothered to fix it.
it's probably trivial to fix
i think i've only used it in situations where i'm always sending all options ... haven't tested the conditional stuff much
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i need some help
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ok, finally got X, except that the colors are really weird and moving the mouse over the ldm preference icon makes X crash
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i have configured a sip phone in the thin clients but the sound i hear in the client is poor
on the other side they listen to me fine
can anybody help me?
bartolomeo80: remote sound is going to have higher latency
bartolomeo80: best option would be to run the sip phone on the client itself, but that isn't exactly a trivial task at this point.
the strange thing is that i play an mp3 song and it sounds perfectly
latency doesn't matter as much when it is streaming one direction
but you're dealing with both a microphone and a speaker ... so the timing becomes more important
is this still supported?
Q-FUNK: i don't think by that name ...
can i use 2 sound cards?
bartolomeo80: well, the timing is still going to be an issue.
so, must i improve performance in the server ?
bartolomeo80: like i said before ...
bartolomeo80: you probably need to run the sip phone software on the thin-client itself, not on the server.
bartolomeo80: it is not a trivial task.
wolud you tell me wher to find the info to do that?
there isn't much information, really...
bartolomeo80: which linux distro and version are you using?
or 7.04 ?
has anyone set up ltsp as kiosks with a time limit of some sort?
ok ... you have two basic approaches ... run all the applications on the thin client ...
bartolomeo80: that option is not terribly difficult if you can use an anonymous, unauthenticated user that doesn't need to save data anywhere.
bartolomeo80: the other option is to make local application support work, which is a work in progress and as far as i know not really working yet.
stillflame: like, pay per hour sort of things?
not for pay, but yeah.
just to prevent people from hogging the public terminals...
right, one hour per person limit... it would need either a user database, or an admin enabling terminals for one hour at a time, i guess.
vagrantc: i really apreciate your help; i'll tell you if i can make it work. bye
i think i may just recommend they use a signin sheet or something, instead.
stillflame: well, you could try the modified honor system approach ... have an X application running in the background that gives a 15, 5 and 1 minute warning and then logs the user out ...
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ah, right. are there examples (or even debian packages in etch) of those?
not off the top of my head, but it probably wouldn't be too hard to write one
maybe you could do it with italc ... ?
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stillflame: i think the tricky part is having some way to check for idleness, and then starting over from 0 ...
certainly would be a nice application to have ...
and many people have requested the time limit stuff before
more for pay by the hour sort of things ...
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hi, anybody about using debian?
debian + gnome that is
what do you need to know
do you use gksu with sabayon and other System scripts?
System | Administration links that is
haven't used sabayon at all
do you have any others in there that use gksu ?
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if so, try starting one of them , type your password, and then close it
and then open it again
see if the busy pointer takes awhile
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i haven't really used gnome much- i only periodically use it to test ltsp
i notice a bug in ubuntu, wanted to see if it was present in debian.. since other distros use other methods than gksu
something goes wonky with startup-notification
the mouse pointer stays busy, just wondering if i need to point the bug elsewhere
Q-FUNK: definitely appears to work with VirtualBox's PXE support and dnsmasq ... probably the workaround would be to default to PXE if nothing else is defined ...
at least i obsoleted some of the debian patches to sabayon ;)
vagrantc: how do we configure pixel depth during LTSP startup? do we run Xorg -depth ?
the X log shows that X somehow falls back to 8-bit, instead of using the -amd driver's native 24-bit.
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Q-FUNK: by default, it generates /etc/X11/xorg.conf using Xorg -configure, and then tweaks xorg.conf
Q-FUNK: look at the client's /usr/lib/ltsp/configre-x.sh
and it tries to get the maximum depth of the monitor+chipset from where? DDC?
Q-FUNK: you're reaching into the limits of my knowledge on the subject :)
hehe, ok :)
the basic jist is Xorg configure's itself, and we tweak the configuration file from there
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vagrantc: what sort of tweaks?
Q-FUNK: read the code
most of the X_* settings in lts.conf, though
just a bunch of sed ...
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otavio: that definitely worked, so you can go ahead and upload ldm too
otavio: just looked at the amd64 .deb for ltsp built by a buildd, and it had the manpages.
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vagrantc: would you have time to sponsor an upload?
Q-FUNK: i can only upload ltsp and ltspfs
and when otavio uploads ldm, i'll be able to upload that too :)
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