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Channel log from 14 October 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:03 | <gnunux> hi
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| 02:19 | <alkisg> Good morning
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| 02:28 | <elias_a> alkisg: Hyvää huomenta!
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| 02:29 | <muppis> Have any experience from acroread in thins?
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| 02:34 | <elias_a> muppis: I believe we discussed this a week ago. What is the problem?
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| 02:35 | <muppis> elias_a, got signed PDF that don't open in Evince.
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| 02:36 | <elias_a> muppis: Is it thin client related problem, then? Does it open in a standalone Linux PC?
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| 02:40 | <muppis> It requires acroread to open correctly. Actually my question is, do I really need install that giant to chroot to get it working correctly fir FF..
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| 02:40 | s/fir/with/
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| 02:41 | <elias_a> muppis: If you are running FF as localapps you have to include Acroread to chroot AFAIK.
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| 02:42 | <muppis> Bummer.
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| 02:43 | <elias_a> There is a part of code missing that would make it possible to call programs on the server from a localapps browser.
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| 02:45 | muppis: See this thread in Finnish: http://lists.coss.fi/pipermail/educoss/2010-September/000542.html
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| 02:54 | muppis: Again - welcome to the list ;-)
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| 02:54 | The feature is under development according to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/412207
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| 04:49 | <asachs> Hi All, got LTSP 5 running a treat. Firefox with flash plugin is running as a local app wonderfully. How do we get local app firefox to use the servers pdf viewer (currently evince) when opening a pdf document ?
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| 04:50 | <elias_a> asachs: Can you read backlog of this channel?
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| 04:51 | <asachs> elias_a: i am sure i read the logs, was it recent of not so recent ?
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| 04:51 | <elias_a> This issue was discussed about 3 hours ago :)
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| 04:52 | <elias_a> 10:33 EST
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| 04:52 | or is it EEST?
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| 04:54 | <asachs> elias_a: hmm so the answer is "get coding to solve this problem" :)
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| 04:54 | <elias_a> asachs: Kind of, yes :)
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| 04:55 | I cannot code so I just spread the information...
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| 04:55 | <alkisg> Can't you just associate *.pdf with "ltsp-remoteapps evince" on the chroot?
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| 04:55 | <asachs> elias_a: well then what was looking like short task just got some teeth. i wonder where firefox gets its mime types from ...
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| 04:56 | <alkisg> From sharedmimeinfo and from /etc/mailcap - /etc/mime.types
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| 04:58 | <asachs> alkisg: thanks thats a great start :)
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| 04:59 | <alkisg> asachs: try remote apps first to see that that part it working , i.e. set REMOTE_APPS=True in lts.conf and from a localxterm try launching evince with: ltsp-remoteapps evince some_file
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| 04:59 | !localxterm
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| 04:59 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "localxterm" :: while sitting on a thin client, open a gnome terminal. In that, run: ltsp-localapps xterm. An xterm will open. That xterm runs locally, so any commands you enter there are executed directly on the client.
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| 04:59 | <alkisg> Then you just need to set the association in the chroot
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| 05:00 | <asachs> alkisg: remote apps are working for me
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| 05:01 | alkisg: all works from the local xterm - so i guess its just learning mailcap syntax :)
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| 05:01 | great stuff !
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| 05:01 | <alkisg> And sharedmimeinfo, in /usr/share/mime/packages/package.xml
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| 05:01 | I think firefox prefers that first
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| 05:02 | (you'd need to run update-mime-datebase after adding the .xml file there)
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| 05:02 | A "common-remoteapps-associations.deb" package could be handy for this use case...
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| 05:02 | <asachs> alkisg: wow thanks
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| 05:03 | alkisg: i guess ltsp could make some assumptions based on what is configured as a localapp
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| 05:05 | <alkisg> I have some debian/mime and debian/sharedmimeinfo files that could be used as templates for that. More in 30', bbl :)
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| 06:24 | <muppis> Any change get login working with smartcard ?
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| 06:32 | <Appiah> the same way you change the login to go to ldap (pam_ldap) you could change it to pam_whatever handling smartcards
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| 06:32 | never used that but smartcards to work for logging into linux
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| 06:32 | you could always try :)
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| 06:33 | <muppis> Founded one howto from forums. I'll try that. :)
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| 06:33 | <Appiah> wonder if LDM needs some tweaking..
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| 06:34 | <muppis> Does it use servers PAM anyway?
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| 06:34 | <elias_a> muppis: One example like that would be the fingerprint reader of Thinkpads and pam.
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| 06:35 | <muppis> elias_a, that would benice too.
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| 06:35 | be nice ..
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| 06:35 | <Appiah> hmm
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| 06:35 | <elias_a> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader
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| 06:36 | <muppis> elias_a, looks little outdated.
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| 06:37 | <elias_a> Well, worked last time I tried it.
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| 06:37 | <Appiah> when I experimented with mounting dirs at login I became prompted twice for the password (my fault) but this worked in the LDM
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| 06:37 | so if the client just supports the cardreader I dont think there wont be a problem
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| 06:37 | just try it on one of your servers and get the login working
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| 06:37 | after that try on the thin clients
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| 06:38 | <elias_a> Anotherhowto,which I have not tested: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkFinger
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| 06:52 | <pmatulis> is it possible to use multiple LIKE statements for a MAC-specified client in lts.conf?
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| 06:56 | <alkisg> I think so. I think the only restriction is recursion, it's limited to 4 levels or something like that.
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| 06:57 | <pmatulis> alkisg: thx, will try
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| 07:25 | <pmatulis> alkisg: no, multiple LIKE statements do not work. only the first is applied it seems. and neither can you do 'LIKE = group1, group2' (nor space separated)
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| 07:25 | alkisg: i didn't try recursive
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| 07:31 | alkisg: actually, scratch that. it does work
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| 07:31 | (multiple lines tested)
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| 07:37 | <rickogden> hi all
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| 07:38 | I don't think my LTSP set up is logging out cleanly when I click logout on the terminal server... it does log me out, but it doesn't run bash_logout
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| 07:39 | this is Ubuntu Lucid LTSP
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| 08:47 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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| 10:20 | <maslak> hello - I neeg some advice about smarcard login in ldm / ltsp...
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| 10:20 | need*
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| 10:20 | <highvoltage> good morning mgariepy :)
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| 10:20 | maslak: that sounds like a question for stgraber :)
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| 10:23 | <maslak> grr... shortcut's ;P
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| 10:31 | <Gadi> maslak: I don't think anyone has implemented smartcard login with ldm
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| 10:33 | you would need to start with ssh compiled with smartcard support and perhaps trying LDM_SSHOPTIONS = "-I <smartcard_reader>"
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| 10:33 | but, then the greeter will probably freak out on you
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| 10:33 | :)
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| 10:35 | <stgraber> Gadi: +1
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| 10:36 | <Gadi> stgraber: does that mean you're gonna code up smartcard support in LDM 3.0 ?
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| 10:36 | ;)
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| 10:36 | <stgraber> nope
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| 10:36 | <Gadi> lol
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| 10:36 | <stgraber> maybe Sotty will add that to his new ssh backend plugin though
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| 10:37 | <Gadi> maybe - if Scotty decides to come back to us
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| 10:37 | I think he's taken a job as Nanuck from the North
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| 10:37 | :)
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| 10:37 | <stgraber> I'm pretty sure I can make it work now if I patch a good part of the greeter (or extend the protocol) + configure SSH but that's still hackish and not very likely to work with whatever we implement as the new backend
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| 10:38 | Spoke to him on jabber recently, he's trying to find some time to contribute again (which was kind of hard for him over the last 6-8 months). Will be great having him at the hackfest.
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| 10:38 | <Gadi> yup
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| 10:38 | let's remember to tag him when we see him, so we don't lose him again
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| 10:38 | :)
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| 11:16 | <maslak> gr.. that doesn't sound good ;) it seems I'll need to write some kond of my own logon app... too much work to do ;)
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| 11:17 | I don't need to have login & pass screen it can be just image which shows to insert card and then do the rest via radius...
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| 11:17 | mine client hs such sollution on win and was interested if it's possible to move complete sollution into linux...
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| 11:18 | unfortunately ;(
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| 11:19 | maybe some of you - who are more oriented in this area could suggest me some sollution or try to figure it out - let's say it would be cnofigurable via lts.conf setting proper shell on selected tty ?
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| 13:48 | <staffencasa> I have a question for anyone. I tried installing the Ubuntu Maverick 10.10 and then installing ltsp, but when I use the --kiosk flag to build the client, X fails to run. It's a default install and I've changed nothing else, anyone have an idea?
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| 13:49 | Building the client without the kiosk flag works just fine.
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| 13:53 | <staffencasa> With the kiosk flag, it builds just fine, but does not run on the actual client machine. The error message cycles over and over but flashes out long enough for me to see that it's X but not exactly what it is. Could someone try it and see if it's not just me?
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| 14:04 | <vagrantc> grrrr...
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| 14:04 | people deleting revision history on the bzr branch.
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| 14:31 | <[GuS]> Guys, i've recenlty insalled LTSP5, built the client, configured, etc... when it starts, it loads the pxe but stopp at: "no DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found". What i am missing?
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| 14:33 | <johnny> bad pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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| 14:33 | <[GuS]> let me show you, i dont think is bad, since i've copied from another installation i made
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| 14:33 | and i cant figure out what i've missing
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| 14:34 | johnny: http://pastebin.com/xjM8NBNg
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| 14:36 | <johnny> i never used prompt and label
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| 14:36 | or append for that matter
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| 14:36 | so i can't comment
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| 14:36 | try setting a default tho
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| 14:47 | <[GuS]> well, in my other server is like this and works :S
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| 15:06 | <staffencasa> so whoever maintains those plugins like the kiosk one, I found my issue and it looks like a bug
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| 15:07 | <staffencasa> the file /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/kioskSession didn't exist
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| 15:07 | I copied one from an earlier version and that did it.
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| 15:11 | <johnny> i don't think peple use kiosk, file a ticket on launchpad
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| 15:11 | don't report it here
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| 15:11 | most people who were using kiosk either use fat client or local apps i guess
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| 15:45 | <vagrantc> kiosk is very different
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| 15:45 | it's not either kiosk or fat clients, it's a more restricted variation on fat clients
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| 15:46 | invented before fat clients came along, but still basically the same premise
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| 21:50 | <epaphus> hello.. new setup on ltsp based on the alternate cd. The client gets the dhcp IP but when it tries to get the image via tftp there is a timeout... could anybody enlighten me with a clue_
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| 21:50 | where to look for this issue
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| 21:55 | <pmatulis> epaphus: sounds like the client cannot contact the tftp server
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| 21:55 | epaphus: are you pointing to it from dhcp? is it really listening?
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| 21:56 | <epaphus> pmatulis, iam sure dhcp is working because its giving the right lease for the ip.
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| 21:56 | thats all i know
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| 21:57 | how can i check if tftp is running:?
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| 21:58 | <pmatulis> epaphus: did you follow the ubuntu LTSP docs? they're pretty good
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| 21:58 | <epaphus> pmatulis, i didnt.. i had a head start in the alternate cd.. and so iam list hehe
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| 21:59 | <pmatulis> epaphus: better do some reading then
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| 21:59 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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| 22:03 | <johnny> doesn't really matter
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| 22:03 | just make sure you don't have 2 dhcp servers
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| 22:04 | you can get a good lease from one, and then not have it tell you the right tfp server
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