IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 10 August 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:53 | <mittfran> good morning all
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| 06:54 | can you help me out with ltsp and citrix ica client?
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| 06:54 | played a lot with it but doesn't run as it should
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| 07:03 | anybody there?
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| 07:03 | who
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| 07:35 | <Hyperbyte> Hey mittfran :)
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| 08:57 | <Hyperbyte> Hey mittfran :)
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| 09:40 | <bakytn> Hello there! Can you help to chnage the splash screen? :D I"m totally confused. Because I tried all possible methods like changing /usr/share/ldm/themes/ubuntu png's etc
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| 09:44 | <Hyperbyte> For starts, don't modify existing ones, but create a new theme dir
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| 09:44 | Something like /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/themes/bakytn/
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| 09:45 | In there, copy all files from the 'ltsp' theme, and modify them to your liking
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| 09:46 | Then specify "LDM_THEME=bakytn" in your lts.conf
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| 09:46 | Run ltsp-update-image
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| 09:46 | And then reboot client. :)
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| 09:46 | <bakytn> @Hyperbyte thank you sir, will get back with the results in a couple of minutes
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| 09:46 | <Hyperbyte> The LDM login screen should then be your custom theme.
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| 09:46 | <bakytn> Mya I use
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| 09:47 | <bakytn> May I use jpg files for bacgrkound?
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| 09:47 | <Hyperbyte> Of course, if you're actually talking about the splash screen (the Ubuntu screen that appears -before- the login prompt, that'll be a different story alltogether)
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| 09:47 | No. PNG, and make sure you use the correct filenames (case sensitive).
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| 09:47 | <bakytn> got it! and sure, I mean the splash screen..whent he actual username input is shown
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| 09:48 | <Hyperbyte> The login screen. :) The splash screen is what appears before login.
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| 09:48 | <bakytn> ah..I was talking about the login screen..
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| 09:48 | sorry for confusing
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| 09:49 | <Hyperbyte> No worries, I didn't get confused. :) Just for your info. :)
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| 09:53 | <bakytn> @Hyperbyte sir! yo rock! :D worked! :D
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| 09:55 | Guys!! Is anybody had problems with local printers? Local USB flash drives are working but I can't get my local USb printer working. It's not even recognizing it. How can I debug?
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| 09:55 | *did anybody had
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| 09:58 | <muppis> bakytn, get terminal in client and check is there anyone listenin port 9100.
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| 10:04 | <bakytn> @muppis ok sir, one moment
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| 10:06 | @muppis I can't log into the clients shell, Interesting. I tried admin passwords. May be I should enter some default login/password?
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| 10:07 | <Hyperbyte> bakytn, by default, there is no password.
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| 10:07 | !screen_02 | echo bakytn
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| 10:07 | <ltsp> bakytn screen_02: to get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN.
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| 10:07 | <muppis> bakytn, there's no one. Try run ltsp-localapps xtrem at servers terminal.
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| 10:07 | Or that one ^
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| 10:09 | <bakytn> WHen I am clicking Alt+F2 I'm just seeing blinking cursor on the black page. However when I'm trying to Alt+f1 I'm seeing login prompt and tried various combinations like root without password etc.
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| 10:09 | moment
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| 10:10 | <muppis> Check that url and do that for first, then you get root shell at screen 2
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| 10:11 | <Hyperbyte> bakytn, that's normal. There is no root password, which means root login will never work on the client. SCREEN_02=shell in your lts.conf will force an already-logged-in root prompt on display 2 of the client.
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| 10:12 | <bakytn> @Hyberbyte ok reading the link @ltsp provided. I think most of my questions answered there
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| 10:13 | <Hyperbyte> Good. :)
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| 10:20 | If the local printer works and is configured correctly in lts.conf, the LTSP client will act as a print server on port 9100. Cups on the server should then interface with that.
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| 10:20 | <bakytn> @Hyperbyte, ok, debugging (I successfully logged to screen_02 as root)
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| 10:20 | <Hyperbyte> netstat -lpn | grep 9100
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| 10:21 | <muppis> Process listening that port is jetpipe.
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| 10:21 | <Hyperbyte> If that command returns anything with 'jetpipe' in it, then the client bit works and you need to configure the server (although that should be done automagically as well I believe).
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| 10:22 | If not, look at
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| 10:22 | !lts.conf | echo bakytn
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| 10:22 | <ltsp> bakytn lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
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| 10:22 | <bakytn> lsusb shows the printer however grep 9100 returning empty line
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| 10:22 | it's Canon LBP 1120
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| 10:22 | <Hyperbyte> Little bit down there's a 'printer parameters' section.
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| 10:23 | You didn't set anything yet for your printer in lts.conf I assume? :)
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| 10:24 | <bakytn> ok, let me check something. I think I 'm near the solution
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| 10:24 | <Hyperbyte> By the way, you should set the lts.conf setting based on mac address, so it's not set on -all- clients. The lts.conf manpage link above has the answers.
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| 10:25 | <bakytn> @Hyperbyte yes I set per mac address, and yes, I previously set some parameters PRINTer related
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| 10:29 | <bakytn> @Hyperbyte so it won't be recognized as local usb printer right? I should then add it as network printer?
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| 10:41 | <Hyperbyte> Start with the netstat -lpn | grep 9100 on screen 2 on the client
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| 10:41 | As long as that doesn't work, there's no point in starting with CUPS configuration.
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| 10:42 | <bakytn> I attached the local pritner and specified the thin clients IP and added it as a network printer. WOrked!!!!
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| 10:42 | Thank you very much guys!!!! @Hyperbyte, @ltsp @muppis
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| 10:42 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm, out of curiousity, does netstat -lpn | grep 9100 give any output yet?
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| 10:43 | <bakytn> @Hyperbyte ok let me do all he stuff again, I'm curious too :)
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| 10:43 | *the stuff
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| 10:46 | <bakytn> it's returning LISTEN
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| 10:46 | <Hyperbyte> And is it jetpipe or inetd that's listening?
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| 10:46 | <bakytn> I think the problem came from my misunderstanding of how it should work! I didn't know that it should be considered as a network printer. I was trying to add it as local printer and that was the primary reason of my concerns
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| 10:47 | it is jetpipe
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| 10:47 | <Hyperbyte> Ah
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| 10:47 | Okay. :)
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| 10:47 | <bakytn> sorry guys..but I have another...the most important and final question about LTSP (typing)
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| 10:48 | <Hyperbyte> Don't feel sorry, that's what this channel is for. :P
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| 10:48 | Completely offtopic to your issues, but how are you using LTSP? In what environment, and with how many clients?
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| 10:49 | <bakytn> We are planning to use 100 thin clients from the start
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| 10:49 | and then move to more and more
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| 10:49 | using Linux Mint 11 and latest Ubuntu's LTSP build's
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| 10:50 | it's for our local government structure, they were using Windows
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| 10:50 | now I am moving them to Open Source solutions like LTSP
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| 10:50 | the authenticatoin is going through Samba4 working as primary Domain Controller
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| 10:50 | working just great.
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| 10:51 | and the final issue I'm experiencing is about the video. It renders very slow! But if I change video output to "XV" it works extremely smooth!! However here comes the problem
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| 10:52 | if I try to do any activiy on the windows while the movie is playing...whole session crashes
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| 10:52 | I can't tell people "hey please don't do anything while you are wathcing movies" or I am having to set output to "x11"
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| 10:53 | <Hyperbyte> Do you have LDM_DIRECTX=True in lts.conf?
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| 10:53 | <bakytn> yes I have
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| 10:53 | but I think this is not coming from network nor from cpu loads
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| 10:54 | I think this is coming from drivers
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| 10:54 | it is very strange
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| 10:54 | <Hyperbyte> What video player are you using?
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| 10:54 | <bakytn> Interesting thing is that it doesn't dpeend on video player, I tried VLC, Mplayer, Banshee
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| 10:54 | absolutely the same behaviour
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| 10:55 | with "XV" everything si quite smooth but crashes with X11 it's slow but doesn't crash :)
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| 10:55 | I tried to use my PC as a thin client and it works great with XV and other drivers.
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| 10:56 | I guess this is coming from my Thin Client's video controller or something
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| 10:57 | <Hyperbyte> Are you running the video as a local app?
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| 10:57 | *video player
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| 10:58 | <bakytn> currently there are no local apps in my envrionenment
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| 10:59 | do you think I can try with local apps? is it really possible to launch movie player as a local app?
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| 10:59 | <Hyperbyte> Sure, you can launch anything as a local app
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| 10:59 | Added bonus is that the video won't transfer over network.
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| 10:59 | Imagine if 10 people start to watch a video at the same time
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| 11:00 | <Hyperbyte> It'll bring your network to it's knees.
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| 11:01 | <bakytn> yes but I was planning to store al lthe media including mp3 songs in the samba shares
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| 11:02 | I think I also hvae to play with X settings and set specific driver, but not sure how to do it
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| 11:03 | <Hyperbyte> !lts.conf | echo bakytn
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| 11:03 | <ltsp> bakytn lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
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| 11:03 | <Hyperbyte> See XSERVER
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| 11:04 | <bakytn> yes, two things I will try to do. 1) play with XSERVER 2) install player(s) as a local apps
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| 11:04 | thank you guys!
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| 11:05 | <Hyperbyte> You're welcome. :) I assume as payment for the support you have received today, you'll stick around in this channel and help others? ;-)
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| 11:06 | <bakytn> yes, will do! I now know something about LTSP and surelly can help others.
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| 11:06 | <Hyperbyte> Hehe
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| 11:06 | <Hyperbyte> Plus you can learn a lot more by sticking around here. Lots of useful knowledge passes by this channel. :)
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| 11:07 | <bakytn> @Hyperbyte 100% I was searching for it..I tried to use mailing lists but IRC is really much much more efficient and even more fun.
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| 11:07 | <Hyperbyte> Yeah. :)
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| 11:08 | Looking forward to your next question. ;-)
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| 11:09 | <bakytn> ;)
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| 11:13 | <Hyperbyte> So what part of government are you setting up LTSP for?
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| 11:13 | What department?
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| 11:14 | <bakytn> I am from Kyrgyzstan
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| 11:14 | it's in Central Asia near Kazakhstan (Borat's house) and China )
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| 11:15 | I can't tell the exact government structure currently because
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| 11:15 | this IRC is logged )
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| 11:15 | I can tell you by email if you want
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| 11:20 | <Hyperbyte> Nah, that's ok. :)
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| 11:23 | <Hyperbyte> I just sent you a private message by the way on IRC
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| 11:45 | <Hyperbyte> mhm
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| 14:39 | <redi> hi I need to enable "LDM_DIRECTX" to "yes". Is there any "howto" for it? Because I cant google any :/
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| 14:40 | BTW Ubuntu 10.04
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| 15:13 | <knipwim> !help lts.conf
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| 15:13 | <ltsp> knipwim: Error: There is no command "lts.conf".
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| 15:13 | <knipwim> !lts.conf
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| 15:13 | <ltsp> knipwim: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
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| 15:13 | <knipwim> !lts.conf | echo redi
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| 15:13 | <ltsp> redi lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf.
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| 15:13 | <Hyperbyte> knipwim, they left already
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| 15:14 | <knipwim> oh yes
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| 15:14 | doh
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| 15:14 | <Hyperbyte> And they're quite silly as well... Google search for "LDM_DIRECTX" returns 5510 results.
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| 15:33 | <knipwim> !seen vagrantc
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| 15:33 | <ltsp> knipwim: vagrantc was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 3 days, 5 hours, 59 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: * vagrantc waves
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| 15:35 | <knipwim> stgraber: would it be oke to move the 001-set-dist plugin from common to Ubuntu, Debian and Altlinux?
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| 15:35 | since those are the only distros using $DIST
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| 21:39 | <abeehc> wow i can't help but rub update-alternatives the wrong way
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| 21:40 | <Hyperbyte> Hey bakytn :)
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| 21:41 | <bakytn> @HyperByte hey sir :D just came back
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| 21:41 | <Hyperbyte> :)
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| 21:41 | Alkis!
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| 21:41 | Hey hey hey! :)
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| 21:41 | <alkisg> Hi Hyperbyte, hi all
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| 21:41 | <Hyperbyte> bakytn, I'm gonna be away from keyboards in the next few days, until next monday. I'll be in Norway on vacation. Others will probably help you though if needed. :)
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| 21:42 | <bakytn> @Hyperbyte currently no help is needed, hoping to help others, but right now I was going to sleep it's too early here already (3:00AM)
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| 21:42 | * alkisg wishes happy vacations to Hyperbyte | |
| 21:42 | <bakytn> see you...
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| 21:42 | <Hyperbyte> Byebye. :)
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| 21:43 | Thanks!
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| 21:59 | * vagrantc waves from cascadia | |
| 22:02 | * Hyperbyte opens Google Maps | |
| 22:03 | <Hyperbyte> Wait.
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| 22:03 | That's your home, isn't it? :P
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| 22:12 | <abeehc> sounds like a mountain range i see daily
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| 22:13 | forget update-alternatves; LDM_THEME wins
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| 23:57 | <warren> Anyone know how to set the default keyboard layout for clients?
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