IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 7 March 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:38 | <gnunux> hi
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| 00:40 | <muppis> hi
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| 00:42 | <alkisg> Good morning #ltsp :)
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| 00:56 | <Appiah> morning
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| 01:02 | <vagrantc> and good night
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| 01:04 | <muppis> http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html ;)
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| 05:13 | <nothingman> hi, all
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| 07:29 | <andygraybeal> greetings, i wonder what it would take to have all my users use keys instead of passwords in ltsp environment. can i hand out USB jumpdrives with ssh keys on them?
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| 07:30 | or is there a better way?
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| 11:48 | <billybobby> morning everyone, i have installed an ltsp-server-standalone, and built a client environment, but the graphical manager still wont load?
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| 11:49 | <alkisg> What graphical manager? tcm?
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| 11:50 | <billybobby> ltsp-manager ?
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| 11:51 | <alkisg> It's unmaintained
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| 11:51 | <billybobby> so what do i need to do to get my terminal server working?
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| 11:52 | <alkisg> It should be working after you built a client environment
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| 11:52 | No need to a graphical manager for that
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| 11:52 | What do you get if you try to boot a client?
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| 11:54 | <billybobby> i "rdesktop" it and it just is a remote desktop connection
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| 11:55 | <alkisg> I don't understand your problem
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| 11:57 | <billybobby> it doesn't seem to be a terminal server, just a machine that refuses to shut down unless i use the command line by the way; and when i do launch the manager, it brings up a dialogue box saying "please select LTSP environment" and there's nothing in the dialogue box at all, so i guess there's something wrong
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| 11:58 | <alkisg> OK, let's start again
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| 11:58 | 1) Forget the ltsp manager. Don't run it again. Uninstall it.
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| 11:58 | <billybobby> OK, gimmie a second
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| 11:58 | <alkisg> 2) Try to boot a thin client from your LTSP server. Does it boot?
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| 11:59 | Btw, here are the basic steps you need to do to install an ltsp server: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 11:59 | <billybobby> how do you mean, "rdesktop" it or LAN boot?
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| 12:01 | <alkisg> Lan boot
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| 12:01 | That's what LTSP is for
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| 12:01 | Also, what program do you use for rdesktop?
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| 12:02 | because that's a windows program, you can't (normally) use it to connect to linux servers
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| 12:02 | Except if you mean VNC
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| 12:02 | <billybobby> the linux command line interface, i put "rdesktop the-awesome-server"
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| 12:03 | <alkisg> That is used to connect to windows servers
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| 12:03 | It won't work for linux servers
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| 12:03 | You need to read the docs for LTSP to get an overview about it, see the link at the irc topic above
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| 12:03 | <billybobby> what about the graphical 'terminal server client?'
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| 12:05 | <alkisg> There's no maintained graphical program to manage LTSP in Ubuntu
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| 12:05 | If you mean the gnome remote desktop program, again, that's not how you use LTSP
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| 12:05 | <billybobby> so if i LAN boot and plug the client and server into my network, the client will boot off the server just like that?
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| 12:05 | <alkisg> LTSP is for booting from local network
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| 12:06 | It's supposed to, yes
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| 12:06 | You can use remote desktop (vnc, freenx etc) in linux systems.
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| 12:06 | But that's not what LTSP is about
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| 12:06 | LTSP is for booting from LAN, and using remote X
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| 12:07 | <billybobby> OK, i don't have a thin client on me at the moment, i'll try it soon, do i have to set up my user accounts, or will the ones on the server be made available automatically?
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| 12:08 | <alkisg> The ones on the server. Do reads the docs so that you understand how it works a bit.
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| 12:09 | <billybobby> right, i'll read them now, i suppose i should have done that first, eh? instead of muddling my way through it?
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| 12:09 | <alkisg> Yup, and that page I linked above is a good start on how to get a system going in a few steps
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| 12:11 | <billybobby> yes, i actually read that one! problem was i already had the Ubuntu system installed, and it's not a dedicated server either, i want to keep using it and access it remotely too.
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| 12:11 | <alkisg> OK
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| 12:17 | <billybobby> i have a winodws CE based thin client here, will that boot through the LTSP server?
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| 12:18 | i mean work through it?
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| 12:18 | <alkisg> Is it x86?
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| 12:18 | Anyway you can just try it
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| 12:19 | <billybobby> i don't know, it only has a 700mhz processor
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| 12:19 | 128m of ram
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| 12:19 | <alkisg> It needs to be the same architecture as the chroot you've built
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| 12:21 | <billybobby> well, i don't think it's x64, so it must be, i'm fairly sure i built a 32bit chroot, because my server's 32bit, and i didn't tell it x64
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| 12:23 | <vagrantc> if you can configure the thin client to PXE boot, it will probably work with LTSP
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| 12:23 | weather it works well or not is another question
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| 12:23 | <nothingman> hi, all
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| 12:24 | <vagrantc> and only testing will reveal that
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| 12:24 | <nothingman> last week I was attempting to have android-x86 boot from a thin client
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| 12:27 | has anyone here ever tried that?
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| 12:28 | there's three image files on the iso, and I'm not sure if I'm going about it right
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| 12:33 | <billybobby> how can i configure my server as a dhcp server?
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| 12:50 | <NeonLicht> What distribution?
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| 12:57 | <nothingman> would it be easy enough to extract the squashfs file and run ltsp-update-image on that chroot?
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| 12:58 | <alkisg> It worked for me
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| 13:11 | <Dutch_Master> Hello
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| 13:12 | Quick question if I may.
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| 13:12 | I need to install a touch-screen driver (Quanta-touch) but where do I install it?
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| 13:13 | in the client chroot, on the server or both?
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| 13:15 | <nothingman> Dutch_Master: in the chroot, if you need to use it on a client
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| 13:15 | <nothingman> on the server only if you want to use it on the local terminal
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| 13:15 | <Dutch_Master> OK, thanks. Did try it, but that didn't work
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| 13:15 | perhaps I forgot to rebuild the image
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| 13:15 | <nothingman> well, you may need to edit some configuration file within the chroot
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| 13:16 | or else, yes, rebuild it
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| 13:16 | <Dutch_Master> I think I may start again from scratch, as the driver has some issues
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| 13:16 | <nothingman> editing the configuration file should essentially be the same as editing the local copy for the same program if it were installed on the server itself
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| 13:17 | <Dutch_Master> Yes, that makes sense. After all, the whole setup of LTSP is to have a client remotely run a session on the server, isn't it?
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| 13:22 | <nothingman> yes, although there's also an easy way to make a "fat client" image which runs on the client hardware
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| 13:22 | there seems to be a lack of distinction for some software as to what the local hardware is considered to be
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| 13:24 | <nothingman> for instance, with thin clients the only software "running" on the client is the X server (desktop) along with a basic linux and necessary tools/configuration
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| 13:26 | <Dutch_Master> The client is one of the thin clients of the LTSP commercial branch.
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| 13:26 | only has 512 MB RAM, IIRC
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| 13:27 | <nothingman> well, I've run the fat client image in 256
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| 13:28 | with Blender and Mozilla plus compiz
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| 13:28 | <Dutch_Master> Oh dear ;) I won't be that ambitous though ;)
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| 13:28 | ambitious even
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| 13:30 | The idea is to have a kiosk-like setup, for visitors to browse our website during a show
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| 13:31 | to prevent anyone performing some 'geeky' stuff I want the browser to be operated by touch only, no keyboard nor mouse
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| 13:32 | <nothingman> that was all using Nubae's script which is now part of Edubuntu
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| 13:32 | <Dutch_Master> not that there's much to grasp, the setup is stand-alone anyway (no internet connection, the website is on the server as well)
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| 13:33 | I'm using Debian (64 bit host, 32 bit client) so would that script work there too?
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| 13:34 | <nothingman> well, it was built with ltsp in mind, so it should be fairly cross-distro
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| 13:35 | the chroot would end up being Ubuntu-based, but other than that it should work
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| 13:35 | <Dutch_Master> OK, thanks once more ;-)
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| 13:40 | <alkisg> nothingman: Nubae's script isn't part of edubuntu, it's a different fat client implementation
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| 13:41 | <nothingman> I just meant that it was now included with edubuntu
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> It isn't
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| 13:41 | <nothingman> it sure is; I ran it on a base edubuntu install just weeks ago
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> A different, separate script is included in edubuntu
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| 13:41 | <nothingman> well, it works the same
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> Which wasn't developed by Nubae
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| 13:41 | <Dutch_Master> Oh, ok. Would it be recommended, seeing (elsewhere) it's not (officially) supported?
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| 13:41 | <nothingman> afaict
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| 13:42 | I apologize for being misinformed
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| 13:42 | I honestly thought it was one and the same
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| 13:42 | <alkisg> Dutch_Master: Nubae's implementation isn't officially supported, but the edubuntu implementation of fat clients is supported
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| 13:43 | <Dutch_Master> Both my host and client are Debian. I suppose it'll work, but I fail to see the benefits for my situation
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| 13:43 | <alkisg> Dutch_Master: the kiosk mode is something like a fat client implementation
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| 13:44 | So the kiosk mode should suit you fine if you want nothing more than a browser
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| 13:44 | <Dutch_Master> Ah? I didn't realise that?
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| 13:44 | <alkisg> It runs firefox locally
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| 13:45 | <Dutch_Master> Which is exactly what I want. Did get the part about the touch-screen I've talked about earlier?
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| 13:45 | Did you get.... (etc)
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| 13:46 | <alkisg> Well if you get it working with a debian usb installation, you should be able to get it working in a chroot too
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| 13:46 | Get the necessary steps for a normal installation first, and ask for any ltsp-specifics later
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| 13:49 | <Dutch_Master> So I should connect the screen to the server first, have it working there, then do it again in the chroot?
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| 13:50 | (I tried that, but failed so far. Probably user error, failing to rebuild the image)
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| 13:50 | (can't remember doing that...)
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| 14:23 | <hiex> hi
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| 14:23 | <Dutch_Master> hi
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| 14:23 | <hiex> is this place for linux z/OS development?
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| 14:23 | <Dutch_Master> I don't think so
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| 14:24 | but then, I'm not a developer...
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| 14:24 | <hiex> oh ok
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| 14:24 | <hiex> guess it isnt
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| 14:44 | <Dutch_Master> shamino is really on a revolving door connection ;-)
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| 15:20 | <alkisg> (10:49:49 PM) Dutch_Master: So I should connect the screen to the server first, have it working there, then do it again in the chroot? ==> No I just mean to find out how to get the screen working
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| 15:21 | E.g. you can also try to boot the client with debian on a usb stick
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| 15:27 | <Dutch_Master> Oh, you mean that way!
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| 15:27 | (sorry, was absent for a while)
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| 16:31 | <Dutch_Master> I'm off, thanks for the help so far!
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| 17:01 | <abeehc> [1;2A
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| 21:16 | <dude575> i install ltsp server but it doesnt seem to be work
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| 21:21 | help please
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| 22:23 | <dks123> Hello all
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| 22:24 | Has anyone tried LTSP 5.x on CentOS 5 or above versions?
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| 22:30 | <dks123> Is there any source for LTSP5.x available?I need to install it on CentOS 5.
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| 23:06 | <no_mind> my ltsp clients are running very slow. but speed on server is fine... how do I find the cause of slowness ?
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| 23:13 | <dks123> Hello all
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| 00:00 | --- Tue Mar 8 2011 | |