IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 16 March 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:17 | <Hyperbyte> !ltsp-pnp
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| 08:17 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 08:57 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm... looks like I need alkisg again. :)
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| 13:05 | <subsir> hi, all
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| 13:06 | I have pretty small knowledge of terminal server but am very curious to understan (especially Linux solutions)
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| 13:07 | at the moment my company would still require some windows workstations for office people and one thing from the homepage of ltsp caought my attention.
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| 13:07 | "LTSP workstations can run applications from Linux and Windows servers"
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| 13:08 | can anyone explain what that means?
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| 17:09 | <Henry_> I am very interested in experience in hardware needs for server capacity when using LTSP, e.g. I have a Dell PowerEdge 2950 with 2x CPU Intel Xeon (3.20GHz / Dual Core / FSB 1066MHz / Cache 2x2MB / TDP 130W / 64-bit Xeon 5060) and 32 Gb of memory (4GB Dual Rank (2R) PC2-5300F DDR2-667 ECC) than how many clients should I be able to host?
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| 17:09 | <vagrantc> what will they be running?
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| 17:10 | <Henry_> As a client? Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
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| 17:10 | <vagrantc> it's *highly* dependent on use-case...
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| 17:10 | <Henry_> I understand but a rough estimate is always nice ;)
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| 17:11 | General Office users, Ubuntu software right out of the box.
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| 17:11 | <vagrantc> well, multimedia is going to be difficult no matter how fast your server is
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| 17:11 | at least fr thin clients
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| 17:12 | <Henry_> Multi media excluded, LibreOffice en Firefox users
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| 17:12 | And Fat clients diskless
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| 17:12 | <vagrantc> oh, fat clients... it could probably handle thousands
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| 17:13 | <Henry_> Really?
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| 17:13 | That is fantastic
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| 17:13 | <vagrantc> maybe only hundreds...
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| 17:13 | <Henry_> Yeah CPU and Memory can be dealt with on the Fat client
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| 17:13 | <vagrantc> fat clients don't take much
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| 17:14 | the biggest slowdown will be the homedirs ... so you'll want a fast raid array
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| 17:14 | <Henry_> OMG they're gonna love this ;)
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| 17:14 | <vagrantc> if you're using the sshfs homedirs (the default), that might eat some CPU cycles
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| 17:15 | Henry_: how many were you hoping to support?
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| 17:16 | <Henry_> 50 will be enough
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| 17:16 | <vagrantc> Henry_: you'll also want a gigabit switch
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| 17:16 | <Henry_> 146GB 15K SAS 3G 3.5" Original Del in RAID 5
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| 17:16 | <vagrantc> 100MB on the clients might be fine, though
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| 17:16 | <Henry_> Everything is Gb network
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| 17:16 | Server even in bonding NICs
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| 17:17 | <vagrantc> what's your client hardware like?
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| 17:17 | <Henry_> Everyday kinda users really
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| 17:17 | 3 to 5 years old
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| 17:17 | pc
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| 17:17 | <vagrantc> multimedia should also be fine with fatclients, at least as good as it would run on the client hardware
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| 17:18 | though things like screen locking are a prolem on fat clients ... we're working on fixing that for the future
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| 17:18 | 12
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| 17:18 | <Henry_> 12 ?
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| 17:19 | <vagrantc> typo... new keyboard
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| 17:19 | <Henry_> When I install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on these fat clients it rus very well
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| 17:19 | rus = runs
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| 17:20 | But we want centralized management
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| 17:20 | * vagrantc nods | |
| 17:20 | <Henry_> The fast 146GB 15K SAS 3G 3.5" disks should be fast enough, wouldn't you think?
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| 17:21 | <vagrantc> one would hope
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| 17:21 | in the end, experimentation is the only thing that can provide real answers
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| 17:22 | <Henry_> I understand, but managers always want a business case up front :(
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| 17:23 | I will do a small pilot with one of these server as see what comes out of it, because I have a good feeling this just might work.
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| 17:24 | All users are in the same building.
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| 17:24 | On the same network 192.168.0.0/24
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| 17:24 | very straight forward
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| 17:24 | One last question...
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| 17:25 | It is possible to access the LTSP server from a remote location. I would think not, but you never know...
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| 17:37 | <vagrantc> it's as possible as any other computer
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| 17:37 | it's not really LTSP-specific
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| 17:38 | <bennabiy> Usually a different technology is used, such as x2go or such
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| 20:52 | <Guest97258> Hi
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| 22:48 | <pycoderf> hi all. can anyone help me figure out why my clients cannot log in to the mate desktop but ssh works
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