00:00 | <johnny> somebody else came in here with that i think
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00:00 | hopefully it will be fixed soon
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00:08 | <deblen> johnny:is it bug?
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00:10 | <johnny> i think so..
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00:10 | i don't use debian, so i'm not sure
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00:10 | but i know somebody else had the same problem
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00:10 | come back later when some of debian folks may be about
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00:12 | <deblen> johnny, ltsp-build-client --extra-mirror=http://ftp.se.debian.org/ lenny main
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00:12 | /usr/sbin/ltsp-build-client: unrecognized option `--extra-mirror=http://ftp.se.debian.org/'
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00:12 | LTSP Build Client usage:
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00:13 | what is error in this command?
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00:14 | <deblen> cyberorg, how to use ltsp-build-client --extra-mirror command for debian lenny??
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00:15 | <cyberorg> deblen, see here http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
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00:16 | <deblen> cyberorg, i am missing something..i am referring same link
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00:16 | <johnny> deblen, i don't use debain
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00:16 | <cyberorg> deblen, usage is under "5. When building a chroot, you'll need to tell it to use the backport sources: "
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00:16 | <deblen> cyberorg, #ltsp-build-client --extra-mirror http://ftp.se.debian.org/ lenny main
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00:16 | /usr/sbin/ltsp-build-client: unrecognized option `--extra-mirror'
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00:16 | <johnny> but you can try ltsp-build-client --help
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00:21 | <deblen> johnny, cyberorg ..like ltsp4.2 can i get ltsp-utils5.0 from net. i dont want to follow debian method ..i like configure using ltspadmin command
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00:22 | <johnny> no.. there is no ltsp-utils that works
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00:22 | with ltsp 5
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00:22 | it's distro agnostic now..
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00:23 | <cyberorg> deblen, not for debian, for suse we have something similar that configures all the required services/config files
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00:23 | <deblen> johnny, it means new ltsp5.0 is common to all it is differant for differant distro..
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00:23 | <cyberorg> on ubuntu and debian there is not much to do as things work almost out of box
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00:24 | <deblen> cyberorg, ltsp4.2 was quite good just 1 command to configure i.e ltspadmin
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00:27 | <johnny> i can't even get it to work on my own computer :)
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00:27 | i tried
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00:27 | no audio there either, can't figure out how to see my sink
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00:27 | i just see null output
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00:51 | <deblen> johnny, who can help me regards debian?
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00:51 | <johnny> vagrantc
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02:28 | <deblen> johnny,cyberorg,when client is trying to use tftp then server syslog getting message tftp:client does not accept options
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02:28 | <cyberorg> deblen, ignore those
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02:28 | <deblen> client is not getting kernel to boot from server
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02:28 | couldnot find kernel
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02:29 | image linux
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02:29 | <cyberorg> deblen, you'll have to wait for vagrantc to come online :)
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02:29 | <deblen> cyberorg, even i am manually giving path of kernel then also same error as couldnot find kernel image
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02:29 | <lejo> deblen: are the files available in the tftp server directory?
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02:30 | <deblen> lejo,yes
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02:30 | <lejo> e.g /tftpboot/kernel-image
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02:30 | deblen: are the permissions ok?
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02:30 | <deblen> lejo : i changed all permission to nobody
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02:30 | as owner
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02:30 | <cyberorg> hi lejo :)
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02:31 | <deblen> lejo:what permission require?
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02:33 | <lejo> heyhey cyberorg
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02:33 | deblen: just make sure the tftp server proc can read the files
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02:39 | <deblen> lejo :how to make sure?
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05:58 | <amol1> cyberorg,where can i get source sode of ltsp5?
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05:58 | codde
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06:04 | <cyberorg> bzr branch https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp-trunk
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06:14 | <amol1> cyberorg, what is ltspfs-trunk and mkdst-trunk?
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06:14 | <cyberorg> amol1, other components of ltsp
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06:15 | <amol1> cyberorg, is it require to install on server with above given bazar linked code?
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06:16 | <ogra> amol1, mkdst is what we use to roll tarballs for distro packages
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06:16 | amol1, you also want ldm-trunk and probably ltspfs
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06:16 | <cyberorg> amol1, you would need to understand what part is installed where otherwise you can completely damage your server
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06:17 | like installing client stuff on the server by mistake
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06:17 | hi ogra
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06:17 | <amol1> cyberorg, ogra please guide me to configure LTSP from source on BOSS
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06:18 | cyberorg, what source i have to install and first on server?
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06:18 | <ogra> amol1, for that you better use the debian packges and check whats missing
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06:18 | the plain source doesnt help you without the packaging
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06:18 | <cyberorg> amol1, you'd need vagrantc's help there, he is debian maintainer
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06:19 | <amol1> ogra, i used debian lenny packages but it is giving error as ltsp_chroot: No such file or directory
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06:20 | <ogra> amol1, you didnt use the debian lenny packages, you used the BOSS packages, no ?
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06:20 | leany would create the file
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06:20 | <amol1> cyberorg, ogra :today i newly installed boss and installed ltsp related packages from lenny
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06:21 | cyberorg, ogra still getting same problem of ltsp_chroot
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06:22 | cyberorg, ogra :for ltsp4.2 on clent side TFTP Prefix is showing but only it is not able to find kernel
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06:22 | client
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06:23 | <amol1> TFTP Prefix is /ltsp/2.6.16.1-ltsp-2/
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06:24 | <cyberorg> amol1, wait for vagrantc
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06:24 | <ogra> ltsp_chroot requires a proper lsb_release setup pounting to debian as distro
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06:24 | <amol1> cyberorg, ogra :in ltsp4.2 if i can able to get kernel at client then almost LTSP will work at client side
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06:24 | <ogra> amol1, nobody can help here with 4.2 ... its to old
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06:24 | wait for sbalneav to show up, he probably can (though i'm not sure he likes to)
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06:27 | <amol1> sbalneav:hi
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06:27 | <ogra> amol1, he is on a US timezone, that will likely take some hours
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06:27 | <stgraber> amol1: don't expect an answer before 2 or 3 hours :)
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06:27 | <ogra> hey stgraber :)
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06:28 | <stgraber> hey ogra
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06:28 | <amol1> ogra, if you help me for 4.2 i will be happy to work with LTSP
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06:28 | <ogra> amol1, i cant ... i dont know much about 4.x ... its 3 years old, nobody touched t since
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06:30 | <amol1> ogra, but it is working on BOSS only problem is towards client kernel getting'
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06:30 | <ogra> amol1, i dont *want* to work on 4.x
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06:33 | (its a pain)
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06:36 | <amol1> ogra: i want only one help i.e. why not image is getting detected for client..any how it is up to all helping for 4.2 or not but for me on boss only 4.2 getting worked somewhat as compare to 5.0
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07:39 | <snaphappi> hi all, I'm having a problem with my ubuntu 8.04.1 ltsp install. it's the "ipconfig: eth0: SIOCGIFINDEX: No such device" bug, with the Marvell/Sky2 eth controller. if I put in a 2nd Realtek PCI eth controller, the client boots fine. but I can't get the client to PXEboot from the Realtek. can anyone here help?
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08:23 | <cyberorg> snaphappi, you may need to build the initrd with sky2 driver
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08:37 | <jammcq> g'morning friends
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08:38 | <rjune> howdy jammcq
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08:46 | <cyberorg> hi jammcq
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09:06 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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09:08 | <Gadi> !s
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09:09 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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09:09 | <Gadi> rjune: !!
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09:09 | et al
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09:09 | <rjune> Gadi!
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09:10 | <Gadi> rjune: can I borrow a couple o bucks - I want to buy Lehman Brothers - lol
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09:10 | <rjune> I can spare ya a fiver
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09:10 | <Gadi> couldn't resist - good morinin
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09:10 | that ought to cover it
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09:10 | <sbalneav> I think I got fiddy cents
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09:10 | <Gadi> :)
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09:10 | <sbalneav> I'll chip in.
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09:10 | <Gadi> cool - LTSP bails out the universe
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09:11 | we're gonna be wishing that supercollider really did suck the world into a black hole
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09:11 | :)
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09:12 | <cyberorg> Gadi, it already did, just not in our dimension ;)
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09:14 | <sbalneav> http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
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09:14 | <ogra> pfft
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09:14 | it will only be able to in 6 months or so anyway
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09:15 | <Gadi> wait - your 6 months or my 6 months
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09:15 | or is that 6 months as seen from a train
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09:15 | <ogra> the supercollider's 6 :)
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09:15 | <sbalneav> It will never be able to. Particles with higer TeV's have been observed in nature than the LHC will ever be able to produce.
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09:15 | <Gadi> ah - which is like 6 million years in relativistic terms
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09:17 | <ogra> Gadi, well, thats totally relative :)
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09:17 | <sbalneav> I lay awake worrying about a lot of things at night, but the LHC's not one of 'em
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09:17 | <rjune> Gadi: jew's have a different six months then the rest of the world?
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09:17 | <sbalneav> For a scary read:
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09:17 | <Gadi> rjune: only when we ride trains
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09:17 | <ogra> backwards :)
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09:17 | <sbalneav> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-energy_cosmic_ray
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09:17 | <rjune> sbalneav: can that make me into mr fantastic?
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09:17 | <sbalneav> A proton (!) hit the earth with the engery of a baseball travelling at 55 mph
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09:18 | It was like 10^20 electron volts, or the like.
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09:18 | <rjune> yeah
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09:18 | I saw taht.
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09:18 | <jammcq> it's not the volts that'll kill ya.... it's the Amps
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09:18 | <Gadi> yeah - just watch that you don't step in a puddle
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09:19 | * ogra sighs about hal-input | |
09:20 | <Gadi> does anyone know if you can have one unionfs inside another?
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09:20 | <ogra> why inside ?
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09:20 | <Gadi> ie, ((fs1+fs2) + fs3)
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09:21 | <ogra> you can just crete a three way union
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09:21 | <Gadi> I want to mount (fs1+fs2) to one directory
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09:21 | <ogra> easier than stacking them
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09:21 | <Gadi> and then union that to another mountpoint
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09:21 | <ogra> and dont use unionfs
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09:21 | its obsolete
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09:21 | <Gadi> so that I can take a squashfs snapshot of the smaller union
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09:21 | <ogra> aufs is what you want nowadays
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09:22 | <Gadi> ogra: I don't come into your office and tell you what coffee to drink :)
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09:22 | <ogra> well, unionfs will valsh from the kernel packages soon
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09:22 | <Gadi> some of us have existing dev platforms that don't change every 6 mos
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09:22 | <ogra> *vanish
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09:22 | .oO(what am i typing today)
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09:22 | <Gadi> heh
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09:22 | <ogra> hardy ships aufs
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09:22 | use it :)
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09:23 | <ogra> at least for scripts etc :)
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09:23 | <Gadi> when I get to the point where hardy is stable enough for me...
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09:23 | ouch
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09:23 | :)
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09:23 | <ogra> pfft
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09:23 | btw, what about your cleanup on login script ?
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09:23 | is that stable enough to put it into a SRU =
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09:23 | <Gadi> ?
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09:23 | <ogra> ?
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09:24 | <Gadi> catch me up
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09:24 | <ogra> that excessive pkill thingie
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09:24 | <Gadi> I wasn't in on the beginning of our conversation
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09:24 | oh
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09:24 | should be
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09:24 | it's not even on by default
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09:24 | <ogra> i think my users would like to see it in hardy ... there is a loud and long thread about hanging apps again
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09:24 | <Gadi> you need to enable it in lts.conf
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09:25 | <ogra> thats fine
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09:25 | <Gadi> so, might as well throw it in
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09:25 | and get people testing it
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09:25 | <ogra> as long as they dont install third party crap that perists forever in their package DB
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09:25 | <Gadi> btw: bug in elographics driver in hardy
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09:25 | <ogra> yes, saw that
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09:25 | bug me about it again before 8.04.2
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09:26 | so we have it on the updated CD
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09:26 | <Gadi> ok - well the driver has a bug report
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09:26 | hopefully they'll fix it
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09:26 | <ogra> did you SRU it ?
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09:26 | <Gadi> the line in configure-x.sh I already removed
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09:26 | <ogra> (propose for hardy and subscribe ubuntu-sru)
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09:26 | <Gadi> hmm..
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09:26 | lemme see
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09:26 | <ogra> do that, so they'll have it on their radar
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09:27 | feel free to sub. me as well so i dont forget about it
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09:27 | sadly i'm totally sucked in by ubuntu-mobile atm
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09:27 | need to get a working image for touchscreen netbooks :/
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09:28 | and the silly hal-input keymapping for special keys simply doesnt do what i want
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09:28 | <jammcq> has everybody made their travel arrangements for BTS ?
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09:29 | <Gadi> not yet - but JetBlue has a neat deal
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09:29 | if you book this week
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09:29 | <jammcq> well
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09:29 | <Gadi> so, I will be trying to get that done
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09:29 | <jammcq> hmm, Gadi booking early?
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09:30 | <ogra> Gadi, oh, btw, did you develop/test your volume patch on ubuntu ?
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09:30 | i fear you get a lot of races with that
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09:30 | depending on the HW
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09:31 | since the 80% hardcoded volume for all devices is set by udev ... and that depends on the speed of the HW and when it registers the device
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09:31 | <Gadi> ogra: on gutsy it works fine
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09:31 | <ogra> did you test that on hardy?
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09:31 | i dont care about gutsy
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09:31 | <Gadi> no - but I run it in an init.d script (well after udev)
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09:31 | <ogra> i refuse to keep two released distros up to date
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09:32 | that has nothing to do with "before/after" initscripts
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09:32 | udev adds the device if it finds the time to ... independently of the initscript
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09:33 | gutsy didnt even have the handling in udev
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09:33 | our alsa upstream guy only added that in hardy afaik
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09:33 | <Gadi> well, then having pulseaudio in an init script is also a race condition ;)
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09:33 | because it also depends on udev loading the sound driver
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09:33 | er, you know what I mean
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09:33 | <ogra> indeed
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09:33 | <Gadi> I don't think it is a problem
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09:34 | <ogra> and we have probs with that on very fast clients
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09:34 | <Gadi> really?
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09:34 | wow
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09:34 | <ogra> stgraber opened a bug about it a while ago
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09:34 | yours adds a second stop gap
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09:34 | <Gadi> woo hoo!
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09:35 | <ogra> ideally we could just modify the hardcoded values ...
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09:35 | but that would brea the ubuntu desktop setup
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09:35 | (which assumes that the values are only used on first boot ever for which 80% hardcoded are fine)
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09:36 | from the alsa POV a thin client is never booted more than once though ...
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09:36 | since its always a virgin install for it
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09:37 | <Gadi> the day my thin clients lose their virginity....
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09:37 | <ogra> heh
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09:37 | <Gadi> it better not be to a fat client
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09:37 | <Nubae> lol
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09:37 | <Gadi> not that there's anything wrong with that
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09:37 | <laga_> i heard someone say they needed to "deflower" their wiki. it was a mediawiki and that comes with a flower in the logo ;)
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09:38 | <ogra> heh
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09:38 | <Gadi> well, we are starting to have a lot of systems that don't act sequentially
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09:38 | but, they should all have "depends" mecahnisms
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09:39 | I am sure we can find the right place for it
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09:39 | <laga_> upstart? :)
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09:39 | <Gadi> a perfect example
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09:39 | <laga_> if that *ever* gets deployed
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09:40 | <ogra> laga_, its used any deployed since over a year
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09:40 | feel free to port the initscripts :)
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09:40 | <laga_> ogra: i know. but nothing really uses all the awesome stuff it can do
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09:41 | which is a shame
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09:41 | <ogra> mobile does
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09:41 | all over the place
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09:41 | <laga_> and AFAIk there are some changes which need to happen
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09:41 | oooh.
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09:41 | <ogra> since its so much faster
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09:41 | <laga_> where can i get that? :)
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09:41 | much faster? got numbers?
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09:41 | <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mobile/releases/hardy/
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09:53 | <sbalneav> ogra: You know, I just had a thought as I was walking into work this morning.
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09:53 | Unusual, me thinking.
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09:54 | But...
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09:54 | I've been taking this for granted, and "just doing it", but I wonder if other people are running into this, and this is the cause of the "ltsp sux" stuff:
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09:54 | Is trackerd running for all the clients as they log in?
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09:55 | <ogra> no
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09:55 | it has to be switched on explicitly
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09:55 | <sbalneav> OK, I uninstall it as a matter of courese
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09:55 | <ogra> there is a gconf key for that
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09:55 | <sbalneav> ok
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09:55 | <ogra> that defaults to false sinc eteh last trackerd desaster :)
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09:56 | <laga_> *shiver*
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09:58 | <amol1> sbalneav,hi
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09:59 | sbalneav, i am trying to configure ltsp in debain based distro
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09:59 | sbalneav, i am getting error as Invalid Release file, no valid components
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10:02 | <Nubae> amol1: use ltsp 5
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10:02 | <amol1> Nubae, yes i am using ltsp5
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10:03 | <Ryan52> amol1, are you using your own mirror? or an official one?
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10:03 | <amol1> Nubae, i am using BOSS for what ltsp still not yet configured
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10:04 | Ryan52,i am using packages.bosslinux.in
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10:04 | <amol1> official
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10:04 | <Nubae> are you sure the boss packages are the official ltsp debian packages?
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10:04 | <Ryan52> you need to use debian...
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10:05 | <amol1> Nubae, i have taken ltsp packages from debian lenny
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10:05 | <Nubae> boss is sorta debian with localisation for India
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10:05 | so where are u getting that error then?
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10:05 | <sbalneav> amol1: If you've got things set up correctly with your package manager, apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone should install ltsp5
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10:06 | if it doesn't, then you've got problems with your repos.
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10:06 | <Nubae> if the boss packages have the correct ltsp versions
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10:06 | <amol1> sbalneav,ltsp5 got installed properly
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10:06 | <Ryan52> amol1, you need to tell it to use the different componenets and dists. are you doing that?
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10:07 | <amol1> Ryan52, after installing ltsp from debian lenny pool i hace changed some files /usr/share/ltsp/plugin/ltsp-build-client
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10:08 | which solved some problems .i.e. not connecting to debian connecting to bosslinux.in
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10:09 | <sbalneav> amol1: ok, so if it installed correctly, you should be able to do a ltsp-build-client
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10:09 | <cyberorg> amol1, cp -r /usr/share/ltsp/plugin/ltsp-build-client/Debian /usr/share/ltsp/plugin/ltsp-build-client/`lsb_release -i -s`
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10:10 | that might fix one issue at least
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10:11 | <amol1> cyberorg, that also i did
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10:11 | cyberorg, so i solved ltsp_chroot related problem but not getting release related prob
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10:12 | <cyberorg> amol1, ok, have patience wait for vagrantc ;)
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10:12 | <Nubae> amol1: sounds like you're close though ;-)
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10:13 | <amol1> Nubae, thanks to you all if it works then i can make proper document for LTSP on BOSS
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10:13 | <Ryan52> amol1, can you add an echo somewhere (where it calls debootstrap) in ltsp-build-client to see the debootstrap command that it's actually running?
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10:14 | <amol1> Ryan52,can you paste ltsp-build-clientso that same i can use and test
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10:16 | <Ryan52> just use the one in /usr/sbin/ltsp-build-client
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10:17 | <amol1> Ryan52, it is echoing properly..
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10:18 | Ryan52, i got echo output on display
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10:29 | <amol1> Ryan52, how it is checking release file which is on server to system
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10:30 | <Ryan52> amol1, you should wait for vagrantc :P
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10:31 | <amol1> Ryan52, when he usually joins?
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10:33 | <_UsUrPeR_> g'morning all
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10:36 | <amol1> _UsUrPeR_, gud morning
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10:37 | * _UsUrPeR_ is installing Fedora core 10-alpha and Intrepid Ibex alpha now. | |
10:38 | <_UsUrPeR_> gotta get a head start on LTSP support :P
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10:41 | <ogra> _UsUrPeR_, dont expect to much from the ibex yet ... i didnt have much time to shake out all the bugs ... and we swithed the whole X input model to hal
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10:42 | amol1, did you ask the BOSS devs for updating the packages as vagrantc asked you ?
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10:42 | having a doc is noce bot will leave all the other BOSS users that use the ancient ltsp5 version BOSS shps stand in the rain
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10:42 | *ships
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10:43 | they should really upgrade from the 6 month old lenny packages
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10:43 | <Gadi> so, it appears that you cannot do ((f1+f2) + f3) with unionfs, but you can have two separate mounts with: (f1+f2) and (f1+f2+f3) at the same time
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10:43 | not that anyone here cares much
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10:44 | :)
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10:44 | <amol1> ogra, i not contacted to boss developer to change but after doing all changes if it works i will suggest them what to change and where to change
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10:44 | <ogra> Gadi, i still dont get why you dont just create a three way union
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10:44 | <Gadi> I use unionfs to push out updates
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10:44 | of my embedded OS
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10:44 | <ogra> amol1, that will still leave out all the fixes vagrantc added over tim e in debian
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10:45 | <Gadi> so, there is always a factory squashfs image as the base
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10:45 | and then a unionfs update overlay
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10:45 | <amol1> vagrantc, hi good morning
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10:45 | <ogra> amol1, please file a bug in the BOSS bugtracker so they are at least aware they use insecure packages with 6 month old bugs
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10:45 | <vagrantc> amol1: morning indeed :)
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10:45 | <Gadi> so, I squash the overlay
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10:45 | <vagrantc> egads.
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10:45 | <amol1> ogra, yes i will make it
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10:46 | <vagrantc> amol1: your version of ldm is probably one of the versions with *HUGE* security holes.
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10:46 | <amol1> vagrantc, i have installed newly boss 3.0 and connected to debian lenny installed ltsp5
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10:46 | <ogra> Gadi, mount the squashfs ina union with a tmpfs, do your updates, run a mksquashfs ... whats the prob ?
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10:47 | <Gadi> ogra- because I need the updates to be cumulative
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10:47 | <vagrantc> amol1: that working ok?
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10:47 | <Gadi> so, I need a tmpfs + old_update
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10:47 | <ogra> Gadi, right
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10:47 | <amol1> then did some changes in /usr/share/ltsp/plugin/ltsp-build-client/Boss/
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10:47 | <Gadi> and squash that
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10:47 | <ogra> thats what i described above
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10:47 | <Gadi> which is my (f1+f2)
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10:47 | <amol1> where i copied all Debian files and edited it to boss
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10:47 | <Gadi> plus the base, is (f1+f2) + f3
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10:48 | <amol1> vagrantc, i am getting error as Invalid Release file, no valid components
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10:48 | * ogra thinks Gadi thinks around corners here | |
10:48 | <vagrantc> amol1: have you tried a plain lenny install yet? :)
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10:49 | <Gadi> :)
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10:49 | <amol1> vagrantc, you mean to say complete lenny OS installation?
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10:49 | <Gadi> prolly
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10:49 | <Nubae> heh
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10:49 | <vagrantc> amol1: well, if you want a working LTSP, debian lenny is in pretty good shape.
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10:50 | <amol1> vagrantc, i have installed but i want to use LTSP in BOSS..
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10:50 | <Nubae> ogra: are there any mobile tablets being sold with mid pre-installed?
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10:50 | <ogra> Nubae, no idea, i dont work in the oem team :)
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10:51 | <amol1> vagrantc, there is no much more differance between debian and boss
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10:51 | <vagrantc> amol1: apparently there is...
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10:51 | <Nubae> k I'll google around some
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10:51 | <ogra> you can install mobile on any MID device with mccaslin or lpia arch
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10:51 | <vagrantc> amol1: otherwise it would just work.
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10:51 | <ogra> i.e. i develop on a samsung Q1Ultra atm
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10:51 | which is rather priecey
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10:51 | <Nubae> yeah
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10:52 | <amol1> vagrantc, yes you are right like some change i have done i.e security-mirror
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10:52 | <Nubae> well I checked out an image, and it looks real nice... worth getting a mobile device for
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10:53 | <amol1> vagrantc, please help me to solve problems of LTSP in boss
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10:53 | <vagrantc> amol1: how about this: install a debian lenny chroot, build the ltsp chroot there, and install it on your BOSS server.
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10:53 | <_UsUrPeR_> ogra: yeah, I'm definitely having some problems getting it up and running
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10:53 | <amol1> vagrantc, if boss developer are missing something i will tell them to change as well
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10:54 | <vagrantc> amol1: it seems like they are missing 8 months of updated packages ...
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10:54 | amol1: LTSP is highly dependent on a working host distribution... so if that's broken, then LTSP isn't going to work.
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10:56 | <amol1> vagrantc, actually i was getting some errors regarding chroot
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10:56 | now that some how solved
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10:56 | * vagrantc thanks magic | |
10:56 | <amol1> vagrantc, getting error about Release file
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10:58 | <vagrantc> amol1: i don't have energy to put towards BOSS. every time i have, i've spent hours and hours just trying to get correct information to diagnose a problem that was fixed in debian months and months ago.
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10:58 | <ogra> _UsUrPeR_, CONFIGURE_X=False in lts.conf helps ;)
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10:58 | <_UsUrPeR_> ogra: great, thanks
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10:58 | <amol1> vagrantc, thanks..
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10:59 | <vagrantc> amol1: since debian lenny is in freeze, and could release any month now, it seems like it would be a good time for BOSS developers to update their packages.
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10:59 | * ogra grins about "any month" | |
11:00 | <vagrantc> ogra: last i heard, it was september :)
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11:00 | * vagrantc grins too | |
11:00 | <ogra> yeah
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11:00 | <amol1> vagrantc, yes they will update but i am using debian lenny pool and boss os
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11:01 | <vagrantc> amol1: which could break even more things.
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11:01 | <ogra> ugh ...
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11:02 | * ogra watches the news ... coffins floating in galveston | |
11:02 | <vagrantc> amol1: unless BOSS is only very minor changes from *current* debian lenny, mixing packages is likely to break.
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11:02 | <amol1> vagrantc, can you tell me this error E: Invalid Release file, no valid components means what??
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11:03 | <vagrantc> amol1: first, get me some versionm information:
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11:03 | !vers
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11:03 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: Error: "vers" is not a valid command.
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11:03 | <vagrantc> !ver
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11:03 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "ver" is to get version info on debian/ubuntu (please use the pastebot): COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'ltsp*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2}/^ii/{print $3}' ; COLUMNS=200 dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2}/^ii/{print $3}'
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11:03 | <amol1> vagrantc, if they upgrade lenny pool then also same problem i have to face i.e upgraded lenny pool but base as BOSS os
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11:04 | <vagrantc> amol1: well, then it sounds like they have made some bad design decisions.
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11:04 | amol1: what is in BOSS that's not in Debian?
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11:05 | amol1: if BOSS doesn't have the resources to keep up a proper fork, then they should really integrate into Debian directly.
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11:05 | <ltsppbot> "amol1" pasted "output" (8 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/73
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11:06 | <amol1> vagrantc, BOSS is upcoming linux in indian government
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11:06 | <Nubae> http://www.mobilx.hu/wibrain-b1-le-linux-angol-umpc.html comes with ubuntu and isnt too badly priced
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11:07 | <amol1> vagrantc, they are not now upto mark as per standard but after some experiance they will be good debian based distro in india
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11:07 | <vagrantc> amol1: are BOSS's release files signed?
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11:08 | <amol1> vagrantc, signed means? gpg file?
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11:08 | <vagrantc> amol1: yes, a Release.gpg file
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11:08 | <amol1> vagrantc, http://packages.bosslinux.in/boss/dists/tejas/
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11:09 | * vagrantc wonders what indian developers are doing in texas | |
11:09 | <Nubae> hmmm how is MSI getting their XP for just 17 euros
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11:09 | <amol1> vagrantc, Release.gpg file is available there
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11:09 | <Nubae> dell and others are all 100 euros extra for XP, but MSI is just 17 euros more
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11:09 | very strange
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11:10 | <vagrantc> amol1: signature is bad.
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11:10 | <amol1> vagrantc, bad ??
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11:11 | <vagrantc> amol1: what it looks like to me is they used Debian's GPG signature but they've since changed the Release file. so the gpg verification is totally broken.
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11:11 | <amol1> vagrantc, so how they should create Release.gpg file for boss?
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11:12 | vagrantc, command?
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11:12 | <vagrantc> amol1: like i said, BOSS is so broken i really can't help.
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11:12 | <vagrantc> amol1: they're trying to create a fork of debian without knowing what they're doing.
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11:13 | amol1: they're basically doing what ubuntu does, but without the know-how and manpower to make it work.
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11:14 | <amol1> vagrantc, yes but parent has to guide child..like that ..you all can help them
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11:15 | <Nubae> hp mininote looks really nice (120gig drive even)
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11:15 | <vagrantc> amol1: well, first thing is the child should stop re-inventing the wheel.
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11:15 | <cyberorg> amol1, as all distros are trying to make their stuff work well, they do not have resources to troubleshoot and help others that have branched many months back
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11:16 | <vagrantc> amol1: main recommendation would be to get changes integrated into debian, and only change the minimal things to get it to work.
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11:16 | <cyberorg> and linux distros are very fast moving target, many many things get fixed since boss branched, debian just cannot help fix all of those issues all over again
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11:16 | <Nubae> isnt boss just indian localisation?
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11:17 | surely that already exists in regular debian
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11:17 | <vagrantc> Nubae: well, there's nearly as many localizations in india as the rest of the world, so i don't know what it has that debian doesn't :)
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11:18 | <Nubae> ah :-) the micro localisation stuff... still they could add it to debian
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11:18 | probably easier than reinventing the wheel as you say
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11:18 | <vagrantc> that's my suggestion
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11:19 | <amol1> vagrantc, cyberorg ..ok i will convey your message to boss developer
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11:20 | <vagrantc> amol1: look at the debian-edu project, which is 99% debian, with a few small changes above and beyond that.
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11:20 | amol1: though it took several years to get to 99%
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11:21 | <amol1> vagrantc, if they change Release.gpg ,my error will get solved?
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11:21 | <vagrantc> amol1: *maybe*
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11:21 | <amol1> vagrantc, sorry to make you trouble..
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11:22 | <vagrantc> amol1: you can try with --accept-unsigned-packages, but it will still break later in the process.
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11:22 | <amol1> that to support old debian lenny distro
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11:22 | * ogra grins about the "parent has to guide child" statement ... | |
11:22 | <vagrantc> amol1: since they're not using the Release.gpg files, they should just delete them.
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11:22 | <ogra> i wonder what debian would tell us if we stated that :)
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11:22 | <vagrantc> amol1: then --accept-unsigned-packages would work
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11:22 | <amol1> vagrantc, --accept-unsigned in ltsp-build-client command?
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11:23 | <vagrantc> amol1: yes.
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11:23 | amol1: but the proper thing would be to generate proper Release.gpg files.
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11:23 | <amol1> vagrantc, ok i will inform to them either change or delete it..
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11:23 | now in india it is night ..surely they will do tommarow
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11:24 | <vagrantc> amol1: what it looks like to me is they took a snapshot of the debian archive, and then tweaked it, which then made the gpg signatures invalid.
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11:25 | <amol1> vagrantc, yes you are correct they are trying first copy debian as it is then customize..
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11:26 | vagrantc, i am trying ltsp on boss because since it can work on ubuntu then it should work on boss as well
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11:26 | * Nubae drools... http://www.mobilx.hu/gigabyte-m528-mid.html | |
11:26 | <Nubae> look how cute and small it is
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11:27 | <amol1> vagrantc, cyberorg ogra Nubae ..thanks for help goodnight ..see you tommarrow
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11:28 | <ogra> Nubae, i think thats actually one you can buy with ubuntu-mid but i'm not sure
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11:28 | <Q-FUNK> howdy how
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11:29 | <Nubae> how awsome is that... running ubuntu on a device you can snuggly fit in your pocket
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11:29 | <Q-FUNK> yup. just like a dbe63 :)
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11:30 | <ogra> Q-FUNK, not really ... gigabyte bought warrens powerbutton :P
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11:30 | <Q-FUNK> :-P
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11:31 | <Nubae> http://www.umpcportal.com/products/product.php?id=162 - that seems to be coming soon, looks like ubuntu too (moblin at least)
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11:31 | <sbalneav> But is it a 10-gigawatt supercolliding superbutton?
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11:32 | <Q-FUNK> just imagine a beowulf cluster of warren buttons
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11:32 | <vagrantc> !s
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11:32 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11:33 | <sbalneav> Morning vagrantc!
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11:33 | <ogra> Q-FUNK, you could tunr off the world if you have enough nodes connected i bet
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11:34 | <Q-FUNK> is that a black hole clustering then?
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11:35 | <ogra> rather y2k becoming reality i guess
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11:35 | <Q-FUNK> y2warren
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11:35 | :-P
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11:35 | <ogra> lol
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11:36 | <Q-FUNK> a pity LTSP hackfests never get organized on this side of the peco (or at least, outside USA). would be nice to meet him and the rest of the crew.
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11:37 | <Nubae> yeah, jammcq wants to set one up though
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11:37 | for us euros...
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11:37 | <rjune> that would be cool.
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11:37 | I bet ragnar would be all over that.
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11:37 | <Q-FUNK> even canada would be acceptable. just as long as it's not held on the homeland absurdity soil.
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11:38 | <Nubae> hehehe, the land of hockey moms
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11:38 | <rjune> you mean like britain?
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11:38 | <vagrantc> talk of a shindig in brazil next year
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11:38 | <Q-FUNK> brazil would be cool
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11:38 | <sbalneav> Q-FUNK: You organize one, I'll come :)
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11:38 | <Q-FUNK> maddog is all over there already
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11:38 | sbalneav: would Estonia be exotic enough of a place for an LTSP hackfest?
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11:39 | <Nubae> heh hows the weather there btw... here in Vienna its close to freezing
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11:39 | <Q-FUNK> artec could easily provide meeting space for a weekend and hotels here are relatively cheap.
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11:39 | plus, the artec office has its own sauna, which is a nice way to end a day's worth of hacking
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11:39 | <vagrantc> Q-FUNK: mostly, it's a matter of if people can come ... get enough people willing to go, and LTSP hackfest it is.
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11:40 | at lkeast, that's my take on it.
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11:40 | <Q-FUNK> sounds good. I'll take initiative and ask management then. beyond the upcoming one this month, is any hackfest scheduled now?
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11:41 | i.e. does ltsp.org have an events calendar I could peruse and add an event to?
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11:46 | <ogra> Q-FUNK, i was thinking about doing one by teh end of next year how about arctec doing one at the begining ?
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11:47 | <Q-FUNK> sure
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11:47 | easter weekend?
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11:47 | winter vacation week?
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11:50 | ogra: where did you have in mind for yours? germany? do you think you could convince suse.de to sponsor and host, especially if it could get them back in the family?
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11:51 | <ogra> i have no connection to any suse people in germany (and dont really feel like i want to :) )
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11:51 | the ones i know from suse.de dont work there anymore
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11:52 | <Q-FUNK> ok, so canonicla event and where?
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11:53 | <ogra> no canonical event
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11:53 | i would do it at my house ...
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11:53 | <Q-FUNK> oh :)
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11:53 | <ogra> we have a hotel nearby
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11:53 | <Q-FUNK> sounds good, then
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11:53 | <ogra> and i have about 200sqm here
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11:53 | <Q-FUNK> :D
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11:54 | <cyberorg> Q-FUNK, jbrockmeier@novell.com ;)
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11:54 | <ogra> with a 40sqm room we could abiuse as meeting place
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11:54 | <Q-FUNK> cyberorg: noted
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12:03 | <rjune> cyberorg: you work for novell?
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12:03 | <cyberorg> rjune, nope
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12:03 | <Q-FUNK> cyberorg: sent
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12:04 | <cyberorg> rjune, i work on opensuse ltsp
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13:31 | <jcastro> ogra: around?
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14:06 | <Guest49464> IDENTIFY jr23451
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14:06 | hehe
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14:06 | luckily..
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14:23 | <jammcq> heavy bummer.... Richard Wright of Pink Floyd has died :)
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14:36 | <johnny> so.. who is selling thin clients that are capable of running firefox/flash locally?
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14:42 | <Q-FUNK> we do
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14:43 | but then those would be called thick clients
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14:46 | <johnny> the term around here for that has been low fat :)
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14:46 | <Gadi> your mama's thin client's so fat...
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14:47 | <johnny> Q-FUNK, you're far away from the USA tho , aren't you?
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14:47 | <Gadi> when she runs an application - it's in triplicate
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14:47 | <johnny> hello Gadi
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14:47 | * Gadi waves | |
14:47 | <Gadi> ... as he tries his thin client standup routine
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14:50 | * vagrantc has always objected to "low fat clients" | |
14:51 | <vagrantc> i think that term came from non-native english speakers.
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14:51 | <laga_> what's your suggestion?
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14:52 | <vagrantc> not so interested in a naming discussion, really. though i prefer diskless workstations ...
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14:52 | <johnny> but that's the name of a company :)
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14:52 | <vagrantc> but conceptually, it's more accurate.
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15:37 | * Lns thinks thin-clients with some localapps should be called 2% | |
15:39 | <_UsUrPeR_> lns, the real question is: what percentage is whole milk?
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15:39 | 3%?
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15:41 | <Lns> _UsUrPeR_: lol...not sure!
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15:41 | "I see you're drinking 2 percent. Is that cuz you think you're fat? Because you're not... you could be drinking whole milk if you wanted to."
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15:57 | <Armagnac> Hi everybody
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15:57 | <cliebow> jammcq:check it out..no errors...new keyboard
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15:58 | <Armagnac> I need some help with LTSP on Ubuntu, a problem with the X's
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15:58 | <cliebow> Armagnac//;spit it out..ogra et al are around
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15:58 | <Armagnac> well
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15:59 | I installed a Ubuntu server,
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15:59 | later I installed ubuntu-desktop on it
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15:59 | LTSP also
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15:59 | <cliebow> k
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15:59 | <Armagnac> the clients boot ok, but they dont start the Xs
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15:59 | <jammcq> cliebow: wow
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15:59 | <Armagnac> I follow a tut on FatThinClients
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16:00 | so I chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
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16:00 | <jammcq> cliebow: check it out: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ByTheSea2008
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16:00 | <cliebow> what video chip??
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16:00 | jammcq:sure will..
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16:00 | <rjune> Lns: does 2% mean that the milk is 2% fat? or that 98% of the fat has been removed?
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16:01 | <Armagnac> intel I think
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16:01 | <Lns> rjune: sorry..i'm not a milk expert :p
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16:01 | <Armagnac> I just make X to check if there were some error but no
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16:01 | <Lns> maybe try #milk ;)
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16:01 | <cliebow> jammcq:cool!!! really looking forward to seeing you and Scottie..gotta twist vagrants arm ;-]
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16:02 | <jammcq> yeah, and others. so far, me and scotty are the only people signed up
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16:03 | <cliebow> Armagnac:i think ogra would suggest you lok at the x log on the client
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16:03 | <sbalneav> So, basically, all the good looking people are coming, is what you're saying then.
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16:03 | <Armagnac> you mean /var/log/syslog???
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16:03 | <cliebow> You BET!
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16:03 | <jammcq> heh
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16:03 | <Armagnac> or /var/log/Xorg.0.log???
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16:03 | <jammcq> "all the good" or "both of the good" ?
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16:03 | <cliebow> Armagnac:no..yes
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16:03 | Xorg.0.log
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16:03 | <Armagnac> wich one?
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16:03 | ok
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16:04 | <mistik1> Man I would love to go but I dont think I'll be able
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16:04 | <cliebow> we need mistik1!!!
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16:04 | <jammcq> mistik1: we'd love to have you again
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16:04 | <mistik1> I'd love to see Chuck and Dave
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16:04 | <jammcq> but not me and scotty?
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16:04 | <sbalneav> :)
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16:05 | <mistik1> Oh I've seen you guys much more than they
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16:05 | <jammcq> i see
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16:05 | but you wouldn't be opposed to seeing us, right?
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16:05 | <mistik1> I can still hear you and Scotties voices, I cant remember Dave and Chuck
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16:06 | of course not :)
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16:06 | <sbalneav> Mine's quite nasal.
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16:06 | <jammcq> it's not nasal, it's just canadian
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16:06 | <rjune> eh?
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16:06 | <mistik1> hehe
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16:06 | rjune: You going this year too?
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16:06 | <vagrantc> jammcq: would it be feasible to catch a ride with you and scotty?
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16:07 | <jammcq> vagrantc: sure, you want us to swing by Oregon and pick you up?
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16:07 | <vagrantc> that's about 1/3rd of the way there :)
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16:07 | jammcq: heh.
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16:07 | <jammcq> cuz we'd do it
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16:08 | well, i'd have to trade in the suburban for a prius
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16:08 | <vagrantc> jammcq: it was more of a "maybe i can finnagle myself that far and coast the rest of the way"
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16:08 | <Gadi> yo mama's thin client's so fat ... the only thing it can run is a weight watchers program
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16:08 | <vagrantc> anyways... gotta run
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16:08 | <jammcq> Gadi: still trying, eh?
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16:08 | <Gadi> jammcq: tough crowd
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16:08 | :)
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16:08 | <sbalneav> jammcq: Maybe we should have started in San Fran, dipped the back wheels in the ocean, and headed cross country picking people up, and park with the front wheels in the ocean in Bah Hahbah
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16:08 | <jammcq> sbalneav: don't tempt me
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16:08 | <Gadi> mistik1: you can ride with me, if I drive it
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16:09 | <mistik1> argh!!, let go of my arm Gadi
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16:09 | ;)
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16:09 | * sbalneav highhats for Gadi's jokes | |
16:09 | <sbalneav> Ba-dum-bum
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16:09 | <jammcq> don't forget to tip your waitress
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16:10 | <sbalneav> We'll be here all week, folks
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16:10 | <jammcq> so, guy walks into a bar
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16:10 | says "Hey, where can I find a thin client?
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16:11 | bartender says: stick around till closing time, they ALL start looking thin
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16:11 | <sbalneav> Ba-dum-bum
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16:11 | <mistik1> haha
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16:11 | <jammcq> me and Gadi are going on the road
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16:11 | kinda like Abott and Costello
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16:12 | <mistik1> I'll catch you when your tour reaches Jersey
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16:12 | <Q-FUNK> thelma and louise
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16:12 | <cliebow> mistik1:ill look west at sunrise,,prhas you can see the sun shining off my bald spot
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16:12 | <jammcq> Mork and Mindy
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16:12 | <sbalneav> So, a thin client, an existentialist philosopher, and an axe murderer walk into a bar...
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16:12 | <cliebow> hahah
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16:12 | <jammcq> oh jeez
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16:12 | <cliebow> fells like old timme with the Scottmeister
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16:13 | guess the keyboard Doesnt help that much
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16:13 | <mistik1> cliebow: Dont worry I've got plenty more grey now, I also have enough hair for us both :)
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16:13 | <sbalneav> Nice to see cliebow's keyboard's still wonky too :)
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16:13 | <cliebow> hehe
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16:13 | <mistik1> Man we need to donate a updated website to dave
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16:13 | <monteslu> moquist, you around
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16:13 | ?
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16:13 | <jammcq> heh
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16:14 | * jammcq thinks that mistik1 and vagrantc should room together. kinda like 2 peas in a pod | |
16:15 | <johnny> i'm not sure if i can afford the price for the rooms atm.. hopefully that will change
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16:15 | <mistik1> jammcq: I dont know if you guys want me there, I may want to program localapps in Java :)
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16:15 | <jammcq> mistik1: you may arrive thinking that way...
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16:16 | but you'll go home with a new attitude, i'm sure of that :)
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16:16 | <mistik1> I dont know man, It may be a toss up
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16:16 | <rjune> mistik1: no.
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16:56 | <moquist> monteslu: am now
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17:00 | <monteslu> moquist!
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17:01 | <monteslu> hey, you ever have an id2entry.bdb go corrupt?
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17:01 | <moquist> sure
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17:02 | I keep lots of slapcat output files around for slapadd restoration
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17:02 | actually...I don't use smbldap anymore. so I used to do that.
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17:02 | <monteslu> hah
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17:02 | well, I uh sorta don't have an ldif backup
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17:02 | <moquist> ew :(
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17:03 | <monteslu> I think I'm screwed. I might just be rebuilding this thing
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17:03 | <moquist> bdb has some restoration utilities...but yeah, you might be rebuilding.
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17:03 | did you use the smbldap installer to set things up?
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17:03 | <monteslu> I'm finding that all things sleepycat have almost no documentation
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17:03 | <moquist> if so, and if it was a sufficiently recent version, it set up ldif backups for you.
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17:03 | <monteslu> moquist, yeat but it was way back on FC5
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17:04 | where would it have put the ldifs?
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17:04 | <moquist> /var/smbldap-backups
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17:04 | also check for /etc/logrotate.d/smbldap-ldif-backups
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17:06 | <monteslu> if i have them could i use them to rebuild the whole /var/lib/ldap ?
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17:06 | <moquist> yep
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17:06 | something LIKE this (this may blow up your satellite, do not blame me, etc.):
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17:07 | mv /var/lib/ldap /var/lib/ldap.2008.09.i-like-ice-cream
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17:07 | (fricking fairpoint lost my 'Net connection just then)
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17:07 | mkdir /var/lib/ldap; chmod ldap:ldap /var/lib/ldap
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17:08 | cp /var/lib/ldap.2008..../DB_CONFIG /var/lib/ldap
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17:08 | slapadd < /some/backup/file.ldif
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17:08 | <warren> Q-FUNK: good idea for branding of the button!
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17:08 | * warren is in horrible post-op pain | |
17:09 | <monteslu> moquist, I got one from a week ago!
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17:09 | im saved
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17:11 | <moquist> yay!
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17:12 | * moquist is glad he built that feature | |
17:14 | <monteslu> strange thing now though. I
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17:14 | I've made a copy of that file into my home and an "ls" is hanging
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17:14 | that box might be in trouble :(
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17:14 | <moquist> are you an LDAP user?
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17:15 | <monteslu> i'm on that box as root
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17:15 | <moquist> if you are an ldap user...oh. well, if ls is trying to look up ownership details of files in that dir, then it might be unhappy
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17:15 | you may want to consider booting a livecd, mounting root, and chrooting in to finish this up
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17:16 | I have done it on live systems without rebooting, though.
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17:16 | with 2k users. :p
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17:17 | <monteslu> have about 10 of those gzip ldifs in there
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17:17 | all empty
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17:17 | all about 20 bytes zipped, but unzip to empty
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17:18 | <moquist> !
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17:18 | ah, gzip was performing lossless expansion.
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17:18 | that makes me think that slapcat has been failing for quite a while...how long has this box been running?
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17:19 | <monteslu> weeks, maybe months
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17:19 | <moquist> uptime says?
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17:19 | <monteslu> oh, i've restarted a few times today
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17:20 | <moquist> heh; k
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17:20 | <monteslu> so, the error on startup tells me that id2entry is hosed
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17:20 | but, that i can use a -u to get past it :)
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17:20 | <moquist> maybe there's a bdb util that can fix that.
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17:21 | <monteslu> so i edit the init script accordingly
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17:21 | <moquist> or maybe you should just get past it and then run slapcat
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17:21 | <monteslu> and it starts, but doesn't reallyw ork
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17:21 | ahh, good idea
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17:21 | though maybe its really dying just my init script is finishing ok
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17:24 | yeah it was just my init script
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17:24 | slapcat is still telling me my id2entry is corrupt
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17:26 | slapd_db_dump is able to dump that bdb file, but I don't know how to use slapd_db_load to try and bring it back in
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17:27 | there doesn't seem to be any documention on those utilities
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17:30 | * moquist nods about the lack of documentation | |
17:30 | <monteslu> its incredible. It must have gotten worse with oracle's acquisition
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17:30 | <moquist> I never used any of those utilities b/c they were so opaque, and because LDIF backups were so much easier.
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17:31 | <monteslu> I think I have only one recourse now. To build a new ldap server and move the home directories
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17:31 | I'm thinking 6.06
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17:31 | using your script
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17:31 | then I just need the teacher to recreate the accounts
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17:32 | this is an absolute nightmare
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17:32 | i gotta quit volunteering to help
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17:33 | I have a phone meeting with my real job in an hour and a half, I've spent the whole day here. And the school is still down
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17:34 | that or try and figure out the file format for bdb files and fix my id2entry in a hex editor in the next half hour
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17:38 | <monteslu> there has to be another way
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17:46 | <johnny> so.. who does the thin client selling here that can run local apps? :)
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17:49 | <monteslu> screw it.
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17:49 | no ldap this year
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17:49 | i'm just copying contents on to one server
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17:49 | these new servers are big anyway
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17:56 | * cliebow cliebow looks at backups for his six smbldap aschools.... | |
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18:05 | <monteslu> cliebow, you have another full time gig?
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18:05 | i know, i know its no excuse
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18:06 | but I really hosed myself. And I have to get them back up asap
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18:06 | quickest way would be on a single system right now
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18:06 | <cliebow> monteslu, umm..yeah..sort of...wish i could help you..
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18:07 | monteslu, you mean homedirs and all on one server
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18:08 | <monteslu> yeah, kinda
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18:08 | they've need to do grades and stuff tomorrow
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18:08 | <cliebow> omg
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18:09 | <mighty-d> Hi
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18:09 | <cliebow> mhey!
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18:09 | <monteslu> like, i said, this is an absolute nightmare
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18:09 | <mighty-d> im having troubles with a nvidia (video) based client
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18:09 | <cliebow> mighty-d, i amSO far behind i'd only screw you up
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18:10 | <mighty-d> im running hardy, and i did apt-get install nvidia-glx-new on the chroot, i tried to set a xorg.conf.nvidia but so far i only get a blank blinking screen
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18:10 | cliebow: what do u mean?
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18:10 | <cliebow> i am no help these days
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18:11 | <mighty-d> been bussy?
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18:11 | :P
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18:11 | <cliebow> yeah fixing freaking ib ooks
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18:11 | <mighty-d> lol
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18:12 | <cliebow> we lost our cracjerjack network guy in the SPring.
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18:12 | so the school's solution was..hire an administrator
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18:13 | <mighty-d> and im pretty sure it is not a sysadmin
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18:13 | ?
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18:13 | <cliebow> yup
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18:13 | wouldnt know a network if one fell in front of her..
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18:14 | <mighty-d> network: to fix a tennis net
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18:15 | <cliebow> i am a boat skipper in the summer..so ii only go in three days a week anyway..
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18:15 | i run from school to school the other three dasys
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18:23 | <snaphappi> hi, im having problems with the Marvell eth controller on my ltsp client. it keeps crashing on pxeboot.
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18:23 | i have this file on my system: /opt/ltsp/i386/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/net/sky2.ko
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18:24 | does that mean that the driver is installed and part of the pxeboot image?
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23:29 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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23:33 | <johnny> scotty
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23:33 | howdy
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23:35 | <sbalneav> Heya
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23:36 | So, I've prolly got 1/2 hour worth of brain power left in the day.
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23:36 | Look at LTSP docs, or go play Portal
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23:38 | <mistik1> Sounds like the perfect time to start writing a new program :)
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23:39 | sbalneav: You're still with legal aid right?
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23:39 | <sbalneav> Yup.
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23:39 | <mistik1> cool
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23:39 | <sbalneav> I'll be there 'till I retire, or they fire me. :)
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23:39 | <mistik1> heh
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23:40 | Its seems I'm been pulled into the CA direction
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23:40 | <johnny> that looks like a good org
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23:40 | go sbalneav
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23:40 | <mistik1> At least for the last 1.5years all my work is comming from up there
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23:41 | <sbalneav> Our economy hasn't tanked.... yet.
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23:42 | <mistik1> yea, I'm getting work mostly out of Alberta and thier economy seems to be doing grand
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23:42 | I hear they are having a major labor shortage
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23:43 | <johnny> would be fun to do something with ltsp.
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23:43 | <mistik1> From what I hear businesses up that way advertise help wanted more than thier products
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23:44 | johnny: I find it hard to believe I was pulled so far away from an LTSP based business
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23:44 | I would not have dreamed such 3 years ago
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23:44 | <johnny> what are you up to now?
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23:45 | i'm a web developer by trade
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23:45 | so not even at all related to ltsp.. i just happen to do ltsp at our store
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23:45 | <mistik1> I find myself coding for food mostly these days
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23:45 | <johnny> since i joined that collective
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23:46 | <mistik1> I recently put togather a content filter systems being used in some schools in Alberta, also doing some wed evelopment
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23:47 | lots of AJAXy type stuff
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23:48 | <sbalneav> Well, night, off to bed..
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23:48 | <mistik1> gnight sbalneav
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23:49 | I think I'll make an early night of it too
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23:49 | johnny: take it easy man
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23:54 | <johnny> night
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