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Channel log from 17 June 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:47 | <cyberorg> bcg, ./configure --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/...
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| 07:12 | <gudbes> hello
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| 07:13 | i try to install lpst on my debian ... but i have a problem with the pxe connection
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| 07:14 | PXE-T02 : Option negotation failure file not found or inaccessible ?)
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| 07:14 | PXE-E3C : TFTP Error - Access Violation
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| 07:17 | I think that my problem is in the dhcpd.conf (bad way) but i change everything but not working
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| 07:24 | <quinox> try checking the tftp logs
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| 07:26 | for me it's "grep tftp /var/log/syslog"
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| 07:32 | <gudbes> hi quinox i watch it now ^^
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| 07:34 | the log with grep tftp is blank
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| 07:39 | <quinox> does it use the correct IP address for tftp booting?
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| 07:40 | you can also try "grep tftp /var/log/*" to see if they are stored in some other file
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| 07:58 | <alkisg> quinox: which tutorial did you use for the installation? Which tftp server are you using? dnsmasq or tftpd-hpa?
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| 07:58 | *sorry, gudbes
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| 08:02 | <gudbes> hi alkisg .... i used your tuto and the debian tuto on the website "https://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto"
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| 08:02 | <alkisg> When you say "my tutorial", do you mean this?
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| 08:02 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 08:02 | <ltsp`> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 08:04 | <gudbes> yes
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| 08:04 | <alkisg> OK then I assume you have dnsmasq installed. What's the output of this command? su -; ltsp-info
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| 08:04 | Put it to pastebin
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| 08:08 | <gudbes> https://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
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| 08:08 | oups :/
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| 08:08 | https://paste.debian.net/971810/
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| 08:10 | <alkisg> Well, my tutorial doesn't include chroots; you have 3 chroots
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| 08:10 | <bcg> cyberorg: sure, I know configure parameters. The problem was that top level makefile was using prefix for so files, plugins-level makefile used libexecdir for same so files.
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| 08:10 | forcing libdir = libexecdir in configure is The Wrong Way.
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| 08:11 | <alkisg> gudbes: what's the output of this command? But run it as root: netstat -nap | grep :69
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| 08:11 | <bcg> Fixing makefiles to use same libdir define in both places is correct...
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| 08:13 | <gudbes> alkisg : I will restart my install with your tuto only and i say you when i have a problem ... it's more easy no ?
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| 08:13 | <alkisg> gudbes: how many clients will you have? What is their CPU and RAM?
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| 08:14 | <bcg> alkisg: should I use launchpad's bug tracker for merge requests?
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| 08:14 | <alkisg> bcg: yes
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| 08:15 | bcg: try to separate those that affect common code, with those that only affect rhel code
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| 08:15 | <gudbes> 2 clients with core 2 duo and 4go
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| 08:15 | <alkisg> bcg: because it'll be much easier to accept rhel code without much review, if it doesn't touch any common files
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| 08:15 | bcg: while common code will need review, and e.g. there aren't many that will be reviewing makefile changes...
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| 08:16 | gudbes: why did you select jessie instead of stretch or ubuntu 16.04?
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| 08:16 | <bcg> i'll create ldm request first, it's easier.
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| 08:16 | <alkisg> ok
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| 08:17 | <gudbes> alkisg: because i love debian ^^
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| 08:17 | <alkisg> bcg: and it would be nice if we had one user that could test your code. I think there was some mike here asking about it? It would be nice if we had a "works for me too" from someone
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| 08:17 | gudbes: and that means that you want the old debian and not the new one?
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| 08:18 | Stretch is the new debian, you got Jessie
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| 08:18 | <gudbes> jessie is stable stretch is testing
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| 08:19 | <alkisg> https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2017/20170527
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| 08:19 | Stretch was in RC4 a month ago
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| 08:19 | I.e. it'll be out in less than a month or so
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| 08:20 | The installer currently might be the same as the one in the time of the release
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| 08:20 | So using an old debian and an old ltsp at this point doesn't sound good
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| 08:21 | Anyway, it's your call; just don't expect software devs to bother with old software bugs
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| 08:22 | If you want to do the ltsp-pnp setup, you would need to delete your chroots
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| 08:22 | <bcg> alkisg: I've created lot of small commits in ltsp. All commits starting with "Redhat" are rhel specific and touches only Redhat subdirs., There are couple for common code too. So it should be simple to review. But ldm first, ltsp later.
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| 08:22 | <alkisg> OK
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| 08:22 | <gudbes> alkisg: https://www.debian.org the download is in version 8.8
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| 08:23 | <alkisg> gudbes: did you read anything from what I said? :/
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| 08:23 | In a couple of weeks, the download there will be debian 9
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| 08:23 | And you'll have the old version because you didn't want to try the new debian, when it's going to be released in a couple of weeks
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| 08:24 | Anyways, I'm not here to convince you on which debian to use; use whatever you like
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| 08:24 | <gudbes> alkisg: ok i will testing the new version ;)
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| 08:29 | i download now the version 9 and i install after ... i take your tuto and i come back if i have a problem
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| 08:30 | alkisg: thank you for your help :)
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| 08:30 | <alkisg> np
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| 08:36 | <bcg> alkisg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1698523 for ldm.
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| 08:37 | <alkisg> bcg: very nice; unfortunately I can't really review this as it involves makefiles etc, hopefully sbalneav will have some time to review it
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| 08:42 | <bcg> sbalneav: ping? :-)
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| 08:45 | <alkisg> Sometimes sbalneav is active... sometimes he doesn't respond for months... :/
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| 08:45 | <bcg> In https://git.launchpad.net/~bcgss/ltsp/+git/ltsp-rhel7/log/?h=master there seems to be 8 non-redhat commits, two of them are whitespace-removals.
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| 08:47 | <alkisg> I don't think other distros use a "mock" chroot; wouldn't that too be rhel specific?
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| 08:47 | <bcg> Yes, but it touches common code.
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| 08:48 | <alkisg> vmlinuz-hmac too
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| 08:48 | <bcg> Same again.
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| 08:48 | <alkisg> Ah ok, it's a labelling issue; you say "Redhat" only when it doesn't touch common code
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| 08:49 | <bcg> Yes. "Redhat" for redhat subdirs.
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| 08:50 | <alkisg> Sure, that's fine. Personally if I could get a "works for me too" from anyone, I'd commit all of them.
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| 08:50 | Otherwise I'd have to look into them to some more detail...
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| 08:51 | bcg: where are you located, if you don't mind me asking?
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| 08:51 | <bcg> I'll have to create rhel-packaging repo with rpm spec files etc before you can get "works for me too" from mike.
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| 08:52 | I'm in Turku, Finland.
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| 08:52 | <alkisg> Cool, similar timezone with me :)
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| 08:52 | It would make it hard for you to attend an ltsp bts (sprint) though :D
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| 08:52 | <bcg> Similar or -1h I guess. 11:52 now.
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| 08:52 | <alkisg> Same here
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| 08:53 | sbalneav: are we going to do an ltsp sprint/bts in debconf17 in montreal? at least 3 ltsp devs will be there!!!
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| 13:03 | <gudbes_> alkisg: For information : In the session Installation in the command apt-get install there is Twice the packet dnsmasq
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| 13:04 | <alkisg> gudbes_: if you're talking about "ltsp-config dnsmasq", this is a separate line that is not part of apt-get install
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| 13:04 | Also note that these are ubuntu instructions, so e.g. you won't have ldm-ubuntu-theme in debian
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| 13:05 | <gudbes_> ok :/ isorry :):)
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| 13:11 | <gudbes_> the command add-apt-repository don't working but i think because i use debian
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| 13:13 | <alkisg> Indeed
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| 13:16 | <gudbes_> https://paste.debian.net/971842
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| 13:17 | <alkisg> Where in the tutorial it says to install yaboot?!
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| 13:17 | <gudbes_> the command /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels display it
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| 13:18 | <alkisg> it says "if you need it"
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| 13:18 | <gudbes_> but i don't need it maybe ?
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| 13:18 | <alkisg> You don't have a mac, so you don't need it, yes
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| 13:18 | <gudbes_> ;)
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| 13:18 | <alkisg> And that's why it's not there in the tutorial
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| 13:19 | <gudbes_> I thought it was a mistake to cause the add-apt-repository command that does not work at home
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| 14:22 | <gudbes_> alkisg: i finished my install but my thin pc wan't boot to pxe
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| 14:22 | https://paste.debian.net/971847
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| 14:23 | in the tuto i haven't /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 mais amd64 it's a problem ?
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| 14:25 | <alkisg> You said the client is 64bit, right?
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| 14:25 | Then it's not a problem, no
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| 14:26 | gudbes_: I don't have much time to help via chat; do you want remote support? I have a few minutes...
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| 14:26 | !vnc-dide
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| 14:26 | <ltsp`> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 14:26 | <gudbes_> ok
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| 14:26 | it's a vm
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> Did you set it to bridged networking?
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| 14:27 | If it's NAT, it can't provide DHCP services...
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| 14:27 | <gudbes_> it's ok
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| 14:28 | root
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| 14:28 | <alkisg> I think you're using kvm in nat mode
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| 14:29 | <gudbes_> kvm ?
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> What VM is this?
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| 14:29 | VirtualBox? Vmware? KVM?
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| 14:29 | <gudbes_> virtualbox
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> What is your host? Windows?
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| 14:29 | <gudbes_> no debian
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| 14:29 | <alkisg> OK, vnc from the host
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| 14:29 | !vnc-dide
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| 14:29 | <ltsp`> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 14:30 | <alkisg> Do you know the difference between NAT and Bridged modes?
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| 14:30 | You have NAT, you need bridged to have an LTSP server in a VM
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| 14:31 | Your client, is it VM or real?
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| 14:32 | <gudbes_> vm
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| 14:32 | for testing
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| 14:32 | <alkisg> Can you test with real client?
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| 14:34 | gudbes_: run the SERVER VM again
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| 14:35 | <gudbes_> ip fix is runnig on my vm
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| 14:35 | <alkisg> login
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| 14:42 | gudbes_: ok, the main problem was that you were trying in a VM without knowing what NAT/bridged modes are
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| 14:42 | <gudbes_> wonderful
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| 14:42 | :)
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| 14:42 | <alkisg> :)
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| 14:42 | <gudbes_> thank you very very much
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| 14:42 | <alkisg> No problem, closing vnc...
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| 14:42 | <gudbes_> i understand my error :)
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| 14:43 | <alkisg> That's a good start!
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| 14:43 | <gudbes_> thank you !!!!!!
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