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Channel log from 4 May 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:20 | <ogra> knipwim, yes it should work with every distro either if you put it into /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-client.conf or use the --config option to point to another file
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| 07:23 | <ogra> knipwim, it is handles by the 001-load-configuration-file in the common plugin dir (putting plugins into that dir makes it automatically used on all distros)
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| 07:23 | *handled
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| 08:25 | <NeonLicht> hello everybody
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| 08:25 | alkisg, did you look up on the 2003 server configuration for the time out setting?
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| 08:26 | <alkisg> Hi NeonLicht. I tried to have a look, but my vbox windows 2008 installation had expired :(
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| 08:26 | I'm sure I've used that, though...
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| 08:26 | <NeonLicht> oh, I see
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| 08:27 | do you remember what was supposed to add to the rdesktop script on the LTSP chroot to solve the problem? I think I'll give it a try, but I would appreciate if somebody who knows about it could give me an idea of what to look for or read of to modify the script
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| 08:27 | <NeonLicht> somebody told me it was necesary to make a wait loop or something lke that...
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| 08:29 | <alkisg> NeonLicht: that would be easy, there already is an rdesktop script, you just need to call rdesktop in a loop so that the X server doesn't get restarted on each timeout...
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| 08:30 | <NeonLicht> alkisg, you mean a while loop, so that the "rdesktop" command is inside the while loop?
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| 08:31 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 08:31 | NeonLicht: here: cat /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/rdesktop
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| 08:32 | <Gadi> while :; do /usr/bin/rdesktop -u '' $* ; done
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| 08:32 | <NeonLicht> the relevant line on the /srv/ltspb/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/rdesktop seems to be xinit $xinitrc /usr/bin/rdesktop ${RDESKTOP_OPTIONS} -- ${DISPLAY} vt${TTY} ${X_ARGS} -br >/dev/null
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| 08:32 | ooppsss... you already was giving me that info, hehe :-)
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| 08:35 | <NeonLicht> I'm trying, let see what it does -)
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| 08:36 | <Gadi> NeonLicht: you want to make a separate script with the while loop
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| 08:36 | and then change that relevant line you posted to call that separate script
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| 08:36 | instead of /usr/bin/rdesktop
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| 08:37 | <NeonLicht> Gadi, I've made a copy first and edited the copy, yes, thank you :-)
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| 08:37 | Gadi, and I've called the modified copy on lts.conf, of course
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| 08:37 | <Gadi> no
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| 08:37 | just keep lts.conf the same
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| 08:37 | oh, I see
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| 08:38 | you copied the screen script
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| 08:38 | to be safe
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| 08:38 | <NeonLicht> yes, I've copied the script into a new one to try it out with just one thin client
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| 08:38 | <Gadi> still, you need a script in addition to the screen script
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| 08:38 | to have the wrapper code in it
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| 08:38 | <NeonLicht> I'm not a very experience coder, I just do some PHP, HTML, CSS, and SQL... but I have a lot of sysadmin experience and always make copies of file before modifying them :-)
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| 08:39 | Gadi, I see, because it is behavying the same way as before :-(
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| 08:39 | <Gadi> right.
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| 08:39 | here:
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| 08:39 | <NeonLicht> ko, so the loop needs to be around the script call, not whithin the script itself?
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| 08:40 | <Gadi> make a script in: /srv/ltspb/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/wrappers/rdesktop
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| 08:40 | <NeonLicht> s/ko/ok
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| 08:40 | <Gadi> make it a two-liner for now:
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| 08:40 | #!/bin/sh
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| 08:40 | <NeonLicht> is the wrappers subdir supposed to exist? (it doesn't)
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| 08:40 | <Gadi> while :; do /usr/bin/rdesktop -u '' $* ; done
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| 08:40 | no
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| 08:41 | but, we'll make it
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| 08:41 | to be clean
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| 08:41 | :)
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| 08:41 | <NeonLicht> ok, done
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| 08:41 | <Gadi> otherwise, you might mistake it for a screen script
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| 08:41 | great
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| 08:41 | <NeonLicht> I see
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| 08:41 | <Gadi> now chmod +x
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| 08:41 | so it is executable
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| 08:41 | then, edit your copy of the rdesktop screen script to run:
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| 08:42 | /usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/wrappers/rdesktop
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| 08:42 | <NeonLicht> $ ls -lh /srv/ltspb/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/wrappers/rdesktop
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| 08:42 | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 56 may 4 15:35 /srv/ltspb/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/wrappers/rdesktop
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| 08:42 | :-)
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| 08:42 | <Gadi> instead of /usr/bin/rdesktop
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| 08:43 | <NeonLicht> ok, done -)
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| 08:43 | <Gadi> great!
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| 08:43 | now you should be able to test
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| 08:43 | and you can expand on that wrapper script as needed
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| 08:43 | personally, I have a very complex one
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| 08:43 | <NeonLicht> Gadi, last thing... I call the modified copy of the rdesktop script from whithin lts.conf, right?
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| 08:43 | <Gadi> no
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| 08:44 | lts.conf's SCREEN_XX points to scripts in the screen.d/ dir
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| 08:44 | so you just use the name of the copy of the screen script
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| 08:44 | you always call a screen script - not a wrapper
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| 08:44 | thats why we made a 'wrappers' directory - so you wouldn't get confused
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| 08:44 | <NeonLicht> Gadi, that's it, so I chage "SCREEN_08=rdesktop -k es my.2003.server" to "SCREEN_08=modified-rdesktop -k es my.2003.server"
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> right
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| 08:45 | <NeonLicht> I've got confused now... I don't understand why I'm suppossed to call te same script then
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| 08:45 | <Gadi> because modified-rdesktop calls the wrapper
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| 08:46 | <NeonLicht> I would think that I should called my modified script instead of the original one
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> right
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| 08:46 | you should
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| 08:46 | <Gadi> just dont call the wrapper straight
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| 08:46 | <NeonLicht> ah, ok, I though you told me the oppopsite, sorry -)
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| 08:46 | * Gadi is often a source of confusion | |
| 08:46 | <Gadi> :)
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| 08:47 | <NeonLicht> ok, ok, not the wrapper, but the new script... rebooting the thin client....
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| 08:47 | hahaha
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| 08:47 | well, I'm not familiar with the LTSP script yet, and am not native English speaker, so all that (included me) can be sources of confusion as well XD
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| 08:49 | <Appiah> any smart way to make clients that's been waiting on the logon screen for like 1 hour without anyone touchin it , reboot?
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| 08:49 | <NeonLicht> I must have made a mistake somewhere, becouse now the Xserver starts, the pointing X shows up, and the the Xserver stops, it goes back to the console and X runs again, again and again
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| 08:49 | <Gadi> Appiah: add an "at" script?
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| 08:49 | <Appiah> check the xorg log
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| 08:49 | Gadi: "at" script?
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| 08:50 | <Gadi> Linux still has "at", right?
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| 08:50 | * Gadi checks | |
| 08:50 | <Gadi> :)
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| 08:50 | <Appiah> "at, batch, atq, atrm -- queue, examine or delete jobs for later execution"
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| 08:50 | kind of like ummm cron?
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| 08:50 | <Gadi> yeah
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| 08:51 | you can say at 1 hour from now do x
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| 08:51 | <Appiah> can i but in some kind of statement? I dont want to reboot every hour
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| 08:51 | just every inactive hour!
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| 08:51 | <Gadi> so, you could write an ldm init script that says: at 1 hour from now if a certain file does not exist, reboot
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| 08:51 | and then you can have an ldm login script create the file
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| 08:52 | something like that
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| 08:52 | <NeonLicht> Gadi, I must have made a mistake somewhere, becouse now the Xserver starts, the pointing X shows up, and the the Xserver stops, it goes back to the console and X runs again, again and again
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| 08:52 | <Gadi> NeonLicht: pastebot the two scripts
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| 08:52 | !pastebot
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| 08:52 | <ltspbot`> Gadi: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 08:53 | <NeonLicht> Gadi, is pastebot a code pasting web site, maybe?
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| 08:53 | SourceForge, it seems?
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| 08:53 | <Gadi> NeonLicht: see above
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| 08:53 | click there
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| 08:53 | <NeonLicht> mmmhhhh.. IRC bot
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| 08:54 | copy'n'paste, I don't like clickable URLs on irssi :-)
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| 08:54 | <ltsppbot> "NeonLicht" pasted "/srv/ltspb/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/wrappers/rdesktop" (2 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/316
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| 08:55 | "NeonLicht" pasted "/srv/ltspb/i386/usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/modified-rdesktop" (12 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/317
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| 08:56 | <NeonLicht> this pastebot is cool, yes :-)
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| 08:56 | <Gadi> there's the problem
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| 08:56 | in modified-rdesktop, delete: /srv/ltspb/i386
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| 08:56 | that is where the script lives from the point of view of the server
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| 08:56 | not the runtime OS
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| 08:56 | <NeonLicht> I see
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| 08:57 | <Gadi> it should just be: /usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/wrappers/rdesktop
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| 08:57 | <NeonLicht> now : $xinitrc /usr/share/....
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| 08:57 | <Gadi> right
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| 08:57 | <NeonLicht> I see now, yes :-)
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| 08:57 | <Gadi> give that a whirl
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| 08:57 | at some point, you'll prolly want to expand the wrapper script to handle errors and such
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| 08:57 | so you can debug problems more easily
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| 08:58 | but, this should be a good start if all is well
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| 08:58 | <NeonLicht> that's interesting, yes
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| 08:58 | at the moment I just need my co-workers not to go back to full worstations and work on this nice thin clients :-)
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| 08:58 | <Gadi> hehe
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| 08:59 | <NeonLicht> ok, now the logins to a W2003 server, an XP workstation and the LDM to the LTSP show up on this thin client on F7, F8 and F9 respectively :-)
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| 09:00 | I go to LDM (F9) now and wait to see if the f*k*ng WinBugs don't show up at all XDD
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| 09:01 | the next thing to do is to set up another LTSP server as a fail over in case the first one breaks at some point :-)
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| 09:01 | Gadi, thanks a lot for your help, also to alkisg, of course :-)
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| 09:02 | gotta go to the toilet now while waiting, hehe, brb
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| 09:03 | <Gadi> no problem
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| 09:04 | <NeonLicht> mmmhhhh... still at the LDM (F9), hehe, this looks promising XDDD
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| 09:05 | I'd love to understand why the while loop stops the problem I had; would you care to explain it to me, if you've got the time, Gadi, please?
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| 09:05 | <Gadi> sure
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| 09:05 | so, Windows drops connections that are sitting at a login screen after a certain period of time
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| 09:06 | to my knowledge, this is immutable
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| 09:06 | <NeonLicht> yes
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| 09:06 | <Gadi> and built into the OS
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| 09:06 | but, alkisg begs to differ, and I am anxious to know if he's right
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| 09:06 | :)
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| 09:06 | anyhow,
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| 09:06 | <NeonLicht> yes, he does, hahaha
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| 09:06 | <Gadi> when that happens, rdesktop exits
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| 09:06 | <NeonLicht> I see
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| 09:07 | <Gadi> in the original screen script,
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| 09:07 | rdesktop is called directly from xinit
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| 09:07 | which means that when rdesktop exits, xinit exits
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| 09:07 | <Gadi> when xinit exits, the Xserver exits
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| 09:07 | <NeonLicht> I see, yes
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| 09:07 | <Gadi> when the Xserver exits, the session is restarted
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| 09:07 | so the Xserver is restarted
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| 09:08 | * alkisg wasn't looking - Gadi, I'm 100% sure I actually used rdesktop with not timeouts and with no scripts | |
| 09:08 | <NeonLicht> understood
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| 09:08 | <Gadi> when the Xserver starts, it grabs the focus of the vt
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| 09:08 | <alkisg> But I don't have any windows server versions around to test... :(
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| 09:08 | <Gadi> so, it switches the vt from the one that your user is using to the one that X is starting on
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| 09:08 | <NeonLicht> hhehe, alkisg :-)
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| 09:08 | <alkisg> I may have had messed with the registry to do it, but I'm sure I did it
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| 09:09 | <Gadi> thats what you were seeing
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| 09:09 | <NeonLicht> which gives the nasty behaviour I was having, yes
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| 09:09 | <Gadi> by running rdesktop in an infinite loop, xinit no longer exits with rdesktop
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| 09:09 | it respawns within X
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| 09:09 | <NeonLicht> I'l keep bodering you from time to time, alkisg, until we really figure it out XDDD
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| 09:09 | <Gadi> so, you avoid the vt switching
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| 09:10 | if you sit at the rdesktop screen, you will notice it flicker every 20 mins or so
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| 09:10 | <alkisg> NeonLicht: sure, maybe in the summer I'll get some time to test it again
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| 09:10 | <Gadi> when the connection is dropped and it reconnects
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| 09:10 | <NeonLicht> that's the part I don't understand, Gadi, why runing it on the loop it stops restarting the X server
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| 09:10 | <Gadi> because xinit calls your wrapper
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| 09:10 | so, when rdesktop dies, the while loop says "restart it
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| 09:11 | (rdesktop that is)
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| 09:11 | but, from xinit's point of view, the process that it runs (the wrapper) never exits
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| 09:11 | <NeonLicht> I see, Gadi
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| 09:12 | I think I've got it now, hehe, I'll re-read it to make sure, jeje
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| 09:12 | thanks a lot for the kind explanation, also, Gadi :-)
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| 09:12 | <Gadi> np
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| 09:12 | I wish my german were better
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| 09:12 | or at least my yiddish
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| 09:12 | :)
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| 09:13 | <NeonLicht> Gadi, a better German of yours would not help us much unless mine was also much, much better than it is XDDD
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| 09:13 | I'm Spanish, Gadi :-)
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| 09:13 | <Gadi> ah
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| 09:13 | the licht through me off
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| 09:14 | asi, comprendo un poquito mas espanol que aleman
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| 09:14 | <NeonLicht> I see, it does to many people, haha, "Neon Licht" is a great song of "Kraftwerk"
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| 09:14 | that's were my nick (and also "name" and "realname") come from :-)
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| 09:15 | s/come/somes
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| 09:15 | s/somes/comes
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| 09:15 | XDD
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| 09:17 | <NeonLicht> mmhmhhhh... I've just made a huge jump on my chair, since I've seen some "movement" on the thin client script I'm testing the wrapper on... I've though it was one of the WinBugs boxen bodering again... but it was the screen going black for the powering management XDDD
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| 09:17 | it seems to be really fixed, Gadi :-)))
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| 09:17 | <Gadi> great
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| 09:17 | :)
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| 09:18 | <NeonLicht> yes, it's really great, again thaks a lot! my co-workers (I didn't care myself, since my thin client only has LDM, and no rdesktop) are going to be really happy about it to be fixed tomorrow
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| 09:28 | Gadi, do you think it makes sense to also add a wrapper to the "ldm" script? I've had it show up this morning once 'cause the home directories where not available for some minutes (changing location on the data server) and so a login atempt has failed
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| 09:29 | I don't think it will happen very often, as with the Windows boxen, with which was happening every couple of minutes
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| 09:32 | <Gadi> NeonLicht: probably not worth it
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| 09:32 | and with ldm, respawning X is important for security reasons
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| 09:32 | <NeonLicht> I see, Gadi :-)
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| 09:32 | <Gadi> to ensure that there are no malicious Xatoms floating around
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| 09:32 | :)
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| 09:33 | <NeonLicht> it will boder us so unfrequently, anyways...
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| 09:33 | <NeonLicht> what a release seying the LDM on screen all the time, really XDDD
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| 09:36 | <prpplague> jammcq: what's cookin boss man?
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| 09:48 | <rjune> !g
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| 09:48 | <ltspbot`> rjune: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:48 | * Gadi waves to rjune | |
| 09:49 | <Gadi> 1 sec - I really need some caffeine
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| 09:51 | <rjune> heh
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| 10:24 | <telenieko> Hi ppl. havin setup LTSP on Debian. What is my best option for providing acces to off-site users? (those connecting from home)
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| 10:25 | something as easy to use as the MS's Remote Desktop client would be nice ;)
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| 10:25 | <NeonLicht> telenieko, X, or NX, perhaps; in any case, unrelated to LTSP, right?
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| 10:26 | <telenieko> NeonLicht: no idea, just asking in case somebody already had deployed something ;)
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| 10:26 | as NX is not available in Debian and other options require much more setup on the client side than just running some icon ;)
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| 10:26 | <NeonLicht> I use VNC with the "via" option to encript the traffic through ssh, but if there are many people accesing the server, maybe NX or just plain X would be better
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| 10:27 | telenieko, FreeNX is on Debian, I don't like it very much, but it is there
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| 10:28 | <telenieko> Is there someway to run the VNC servers "on-demand" ? All I've seen makes me run the vncserver *first*, with a fixed geometry and then connect to it. But then I have to allocate a display for every user
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| 10:29 | <NeonLicht> long time ago I read something about VNC-on-demand, but never tried it myself or research any more
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| 10:29 | <telenieko> I google for it, thanks for the pointers ;)
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| 10:31 | <NeonLicht> no problem, let me know what you end up using :-)
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| 10:46 | <roxan> hi, link to ltsp server and client requirement will be highly appreciated.
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| 10:47 | <alkisg> roxan, see the topic here, there's a link to the docs
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| 10:49 | <telenieko> NeonLicht: I setup GDM with XDMCP enabled and added: "5901 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/bin/Xvnc Xvnc -inetd -query localhost -once -geometry 1024x768 -depth 16 securitytypes=none" to my inetd.conf
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| 10:50 | That will be enough for now ;)
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| 10:57 | <Mip5> Morning Folks
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| 10:58 | epsas - I have done that for other boxes, but these are new, and I'd like to make them work well.
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| 10:58 | Is there a way to install nvidia drivers for use with thin clients? I'm not actually sure how to try it.
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| 11:03 | <epsas> you will have to add the kernel module and the accelerated drivers to the ltsp image
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| 11:06 | <alkisg> The nvidia drivers overwrite some opengl libraries, so I've heard that they should be used only when _all_ clients have nvidia cards. Either that, or a different ltsp image just for them...
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| 11:14 | <Mip5> epsas - thanks
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| 11:15 | <epsas> alkisg - that is a good point
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| 11:15 | <Mip5> alkisg - I didn't realize that they'd do that. Most of the machines at this site will be nvida
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| 11:33 | <Mip5> alkisg - would it be hard to do a different image for a different set of machines?
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| 11:35 | <alkisg> Mip5: No, I think some people did that already
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| 11:36 | But you need to differentiate them by their mac address (e.g. in dhcpd.conf)
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| 11:46 | <Mip5> alkisg: Well - I'm open to that. Can you point me to some documentation on that?
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| 11:47 | <epsas> Mip5 - let us know how you progress if you end up doing this
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| 11:47 | i am curious myself
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| 11:47 | <Mip5> Definitely. So far it's looking like I'll have some time to get on this today.
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| 11:47 | <alkisg> Mip5: installing nvidia, using 2 images or specifying mac addresses in dhcpd.conf?
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| 11:47 | <Mip5> Alkisg: All of the above - I was going to clarify that
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| 11:48 | <alkisg> Ooops ok I can try to help but if anyone want too help here, be my guest...
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| 11:48 | Which nvidia driver do you need?
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| 11:49 | <Mip5> I'll double check. The mobo is asus-m2n68-am se2
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| 11:49 | <alkisg> E.g. sudo chroot <your chroot>, then apt-get install nvidia-glx-96 (for olders cards)
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| 11:49 | See the discription of the nvidia-glx-* packages to match your cards
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| 11:50 | <Mip5> Cool - now should I set up the segregated list of clients first, so I don't hose my existing clients video configs?
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| 11:51 | <alkisg> Ah right, make a second chroot first - copy the existing one...
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| 11:51 | (btw, which distro is that?)
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| 11:52 | <Mip5> edubuntu 8.04
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| 11:53 | Kind of obvious question here - sudo cp -a /opt/ltsp /opt/ltsp-nvidia to make a copy of the chroot?
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| 11:54 | <alkisg> I think so, and then you do e.g. sudo ltsp-update-image --base /opt/ltsp-nvidia
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| 11:55 | (I mean later when you actually want to update the image, not now...)
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| 11:57 | <Mip5> okay - I've actually got two servers. One I'm currently using, and another I'm setting up for a 2nd install at another site. It's the 2nd one that requires the nvidia drivers. I'm going to fire up that 2nd machine, create a test vlan, and hack that one. I'll be back in a bit. Thanks for all our help.
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| 12:16 | <Lumiere> I thought that ltsp had the ability to use a different x config based on the config of the client
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| 12:23 | <epsas> Lumiere - there is also the issue of client opengl libraries
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| 12:24 | <Lumiere> epsas: you should be able to have both there
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| 12:24 | and use the right onw
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| 12:27 | <epsas> it's done by switching symlinks in the stock distribution, no?
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| 12:27 | <knipwim> ogra: thanks for the reply
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| 13:52 | <treyh> hi guys
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| 13:59 | <Cranky> in ubuntu ltsp it does not appear that firefox is getting terminated when the user logs out
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| 13:59 | when the user attemtps to log back in, it tells the user that the firefox is already runnin
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| 14:09 | <Mip5> Cranky - I haven't had this problem. However I've seen it when more than one station is logged in as the very same user.
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| 14:14 | alkisg - Not sure if you're still there, but I'm wondering about installing software in the chroot environment in general.
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| 14:14 | <alkisg> Mip5: why does that worry you?
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| 14:15 | <treyh_> i'm trying to map the ltsp client's cdrom with rdesktop
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| 14:15 | anyone had any experience with that
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| 14:15 | Gadi you around?
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| 14:16 | <Mip5> alkisg - I've just launched aptitude in the chrooted environment and see the nvidia driver I'd like to install.
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| 14:16 | Installing software in there that way makes sense to me, but there's a lot about this that I don't understand.
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| 14:17 | <alkisg> ...and see that it also installs dkms and 30 mb of other software? ;)
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| 14:18 | <treyh_> anyone have any experience with using wireless cards?
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| 14:18 | <Mip5> Right - ;-) - Updating the chroot environment, ie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UpdatingChroot looks more involved (mounting proc, etc)
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| 14:18 | <Mip5> So I wondered whether this was a different process
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| 14:20 | <alkisg> Not really, but look at the commands one by one. The first 5-10 commands create backups, sources.list etc, you don't have to do this every time
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| 14:20 | You need from there and below: export LTSP_HANDLE_DAEMONS=false
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| 14:20 | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386; mount -t proc proc /proc ; apt-get update && apt-get install nvidia-glx-96
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| 14:21 | ...and of course the ltsp-update-image commands below. :)
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| 14:21 | <Mip5> okay - cool. It looks like my video card is "new" GeForce 7025, so I'm thinking I need the nvidia-glx-new
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| 14:22 | Thanks a bunch. The director just came in and is requesting a walk and a cup of coffee - so I'll be back in a bit.
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| 14:22 | <alkisg> Heh, ok, bye bye :)
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| 14:35 | <epsas> Mip5 - hopefully you don't get fired!!!
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| 14:35 | heh, j/k
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| 14:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> !pastebin
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| 14:46 | <ltspbot`> _UsUrPeR_: "pastebin" is try !pastebot
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| 14:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> !pastebot
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| 14:46 | <ltspbot`> _UsUrPeR_: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 14:47 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey guys
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| 14:48 | could someone take a look at this LTS.conf (yes, it's from kiwi, but should still apply) and tell me why I have two clients getting the settings I specifically assigned to a mac address?
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| 14:48 | <ltsppbot> "_UsUrPeR_" pasted "lts.conf attempt to define separate TC settins" (20 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/318
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| 14:52 | <_UsUrPeR_> anyone? :/
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| 15:01 | <pmatulis> is firefox 3 LTSP-friendly in the sense of not consuming more and more client memory for cached images?
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| 15:04 | * pmatulis goes to ask in #firefox | |
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| 15:23 | <Lns> pmatulis: it is improved for that, amongst other things (which you may need to manually configure) such as those documented at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Firefox3Optimize (for ubuntu anyway, should be portable though)
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| 15:27 | <pmatulis> Lns: thanks for that. i'm also trying to see how XRAMPERC actually works
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| 15:28 | does this parameter close down *any* X application that is consuming a certain % of ram?
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| 15:28 | <Lns> pmatulis: yes
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| 15:28 | <pmatulis> Lns: k, one app using the %, not a combination of apps?
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| 15:28 | <Lns> correct
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| 15:28 | <pmatulis> Lns: thanks again
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| 15:28 | <Lns> designed to kill runaway apps without killing your X session
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| 15:29 | glad to be of help =)
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| 15:31 | <Lumiere> Lns: so how often does that xramperc kill a working app?
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| 15:31 | <Lns> Lumiere: how often? ...Whenever it exceeds the % you have set
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| 16:13 | <Mip5> alkisg - I updated the chroot and installed the nvidia driver, and the client now shows a graphical login! Yeah!
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| 16:14 | <alkisg> Mip5: nice! I'm not sure if you need to specify XSERVER=nvidia or any modules though, are you sure that it was nvidia that got loaded and not nv?
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| 16:14 | <Mip5> I looked at my lts.conf file, and can see that I need to specify nvidia (it's currently set as XSERVER-vesa. I'm googling the setting for this card - I can't recall what it's supposed to be like.
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| 16:14 | lsmod should show me whether nvidia is now loaded, right?
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| 16:15 | actually - lsmod | grep nvidia doesn't find anything
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| 16:15 | <alkisg> Well so you installed the nvidia driver but you aren't using it...
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| 16:16 | Try XSERVER=nvidia for this client
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| 16:17 | <Mip5> Yeah...just tried that, and it's back to the black screen
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| 16:19 | I'm going to look in the logs. I'm thinking that I need to see nvidia as an installed module before I can have my lts.conf file specify it's use (and it doesn't look like it's loading).
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| 16:22 | <alkisg> Mip5: here's my lts.conf part:
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| 16:22 | [00:50:FC:98:CC:31]
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| 16:22 | XSERVER=nvidia
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| 16:22 | MODULE_01=nvidia
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| 16:22 | X4_MODULE_01=glx
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| 16:22 | Try adding the same lines
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| 16:23 | <Mip5> Cool - So I should specify those lines in my default stanza, right (since all of my clients are going to be using the same graphics card)?
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| 16:23 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 16:27 | <Mip5> no dice - still showing the dreaded black screen...
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| 16:27 | <alkisg> OK, see the x logs in the client
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| 16:31 | <Mip5> alkisg - can you remind me how to enable a console login on a thin client?
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| 16:32 | <alkisg> SCREEN_02=shell
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| 16:32 | SCREEN_07=ldm
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| 16:32 | <Mip5> thanks
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| 16:33 | <alkisg> (or apt-get install sshd in the chroot)
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| 16:33 | (openssh-server)
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| 16:34 | <Mip5> neat! I never thought of that!
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| 16:38 | so .... the console window is blinking - I can't keep it on steadily
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| 16:38 | <alkisg> The x server is restarting...
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| 16:39 | Maybe you could try with both screens=shell and then start x manually? But you'll need to see the exact command line from a working client...
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| 16:40 | <Mip5> alkisg - cool. I'll try that. Thanks again for all your help today!
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