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Channel log from 3 June 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 09:07 | <denisesball> anyone know why my NIC (Broadcom BCM5780 w/tg3 driver) isn't working in lucid but works fine in debian 5?
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| 09:07 | <alkisg> As a thin client? Or on a standalone pc?
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| 09:08 | <denisesball> this is going to be the thin client server
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| 09:08 | <alkisg> So, it isn't working when you boot that pc as a thin client? Or when you boot a normal, installed ubuntu?
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| 09:09 | <denisesball> i just installed ubuntu ltsp server on this server with the card. it couldnt configure it during the install, and post-install i still cant get it going
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| 09:09 | <alkisg> Got it.
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| 09:09 | <denisesball> but i tried the debian installer and it worked fine
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| 09:11 | would the ubuntu server iso be better than using the ubuntu alternate?
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| 09:12 | <alkisg> Nah..
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| 09:12 | <denisesball> well this really sucks
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| 09:12 | <alkisg> sudo lspci -vv -nn | less => see under your card which module it uses
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| 09:12 | <denisesball> just fyi i'm getting "recieve_packet failed network is down" when trying dhclient on the interface
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| 09:13 | the NIC is orange too, not green, but i know the cable/switch are fine. the debian installer had no prob
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| 09:13 | <alkisg> Ah, so the module is loaded but then it fails? hmm well that's beyond my module skills :)
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| 09:14 | <denisesball> yeah the tg3 module like i said above
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| 09:15 | and the newest one on broadcom's site is from march, so you'd think it would be up to date
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| 09:16 | * alkisg has BCM5787M and it's working fine... | |
| 09:16 | <denisesball> tg3 module?
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| 09:16 | <alkisg> Yeah
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| 09:17 | <denisesball> wtf
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| 09:17 | dhclient also says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Function not implemented"
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| 09:24 | <denisesball> added a pci-X nic and it works no problem. gonna see if updates help i guess
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| 09:32 | <denisesball> alkisg: i think i'm having some irq issues
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| 09:33 | i see "disabling irq X" in the logs all over
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| 09:34 | and i dont think ive had to troubleshoot irq issues in 10 years
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| 09:54 | <denisesball> alkisg: make anything of this? http://pastebin.com/j9HSZRvM
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| 09:57 | <alkisg> No, no idea. Did you try what it proposes? "(try booting with the "irqpoll" option)"
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| 09:57 | (i.e. press e on grub...)
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| 09:57 | <denisesball> not yet
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| 10:39 | <denisesball> alkisg: if you are curious, BIOS upgrade took care of it!
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| 10:39 | that was frustrating to say the least
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| 10:44 | <cliebow> nice catch
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| 10:45 | <denisesball> haha, when all else fails - UPGRADE! right?
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| 10:45 | * alkisg hates hardware/pci/bios problems, has had too big a share of those :-/ | |
| 10:46 | <cliebow> for me one thing is fixed and two break
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| 10:47 | <denisesball> yeah i have days like that for sure
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| 14:08 | <alkisg> stgraber: could we put ltsp-chroot to /usr/sbin like debian does?
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| 14:36 | <rad4Christ> Is there any reason I should look to try to implement nx into ltsp booting? I have a coworker stating we should try to use nx to use lees bandwidth per client. Is this doable?
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| 14:39 | <thunsucker> rad4Christ: are you having bandwidth problems? another solution would be to run fat clients
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| 14:40 | <rad4Christ> thunsucker: actuallty, still testing the server. I havent' even rolled it out to a full lab. that's why I was wondering before I go into finding out how.
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| 14:41 | I'm planning to run fat clients with FF and OOo running locally.
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| 14:41 | <cliebow> rad4Christ, you need to access the server from distance?
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| 14:41 | on the wan?
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| 14:41 | <thunsucker> rad4Christ: how many clients you going to have?
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| 14:42 | <rad4Christ> This will all be on LAN, running 115 clients loadbalanced on 4 servers.
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| 14:43 | Initially, testing will be on 25 clients on one server until I've got it all worked out.
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| 14:43 | <thunsucker> rad4Christ: honestly I would skip the nx, don't think it's intended for lan
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| 14:43 | <rad4Christ> We're replacing all labs in a public MS/HS , so we're really stoked, but want to get it right.
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| 14:43 | <dobber_> http://www.epiacenter.com/pictures/news/2006/computex06/gigabyte/100_4518.JPG
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| 14:44 | <rad4Christ> This is what we're using: http://aceraspirerevo.com/
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| 14:46 | <cliebow> nx is great across the wan..but there is so much squashing and inflating in nx it takes its toll
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| 14:48 | <dobber_> rad4Christ it even have a remote control, cool
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| 14:50 | <rad4Christ> There's a $20 mount to mount these to the back of an LCD, making them pretty ideal for MS/HS labs and libraries.
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| 14:51 | Also, on Ubuntu 10.04 I cannot find a lts.conf file.
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| 14:51 | Is it not used/created by default?
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| 14:53 | <dobber_> rad4Christ /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/
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| 14:53 | it's there
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| 14:54 | <thunsucker> rad4Christ: if not, it's not required
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| 14:54 | <rad4Christ> Well, is there anywhereI can download a sample one for LTSP5 so I can play with the settings?
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| 14:54 | <vagrantc> lts.conf has been optional for quite some time
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| 14:55 | the *only* reason it's still included is people panic when it's not there.
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| 14:55 | <denisesball> its not included in default 10.04
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| 14:55 | ive had to create it manually every time
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| 14:56 | <cliebow> rad:thers hould be an lts_parameters zipped file there somewhere..used to be
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| 14:56 | <thunsucker> rad4Christ: I would start here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/ltsp/files/Docs-Admin-Guide/LTSPManual.pdf/download
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| 14:56 | <alkisg> denisesball: you can also run `man lts.conf` and see the commands there.
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| 14:57 | <denisesball> alkisg: i know, i wasnt asking, just letting vagrantc know its not there so people panic
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| 14:57 | <alkisg> denisesball: sorry, I meant to post that for rad4Christ.
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| 14:57 | <thunsucker> maybe it would be a good idea to include a blank one
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| 14:57 | <denisesball> i think so
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| 14:58 | <thunsucker> that says #I'm blank by default :) but feel free to edit me
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| 14:58 | <denisesball> alkisg: also:
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| 14:58 | termserver1:~$ man lts.conf
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| 14:58 | No manual entry for lts.conf
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| 14:59 | <alkisg> sudo apt-get install ltsp-docs
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| 14:59 | !lts.conf
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| 14:59 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "lts.conf" :: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 14:59 | <alkisg> or that ^^^
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| 14:59 | <denisesball> (i think that package should also be downloaded by default)
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| 14:59 | <alkisg> Hmm yeah it'd be a good idea to file a bug report to get it to "recomments" of ltsp-server.
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| 15:00 | <dobber_> i've never used ltsp prior to 5.2 and i had no problem folowing the documentation. i created lts.conf without wondering
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| 15:01 | maybe you should clarify this in 4 to 5 transition
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| 15:01 | <vagrantc> even people who started with ltsp5 hesitate to create something fresh rather than simply edit something that's already there.
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| 15:02 | <denisesball> definitely, i would assume im just looking in the wrong place
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| 15:03 | <dobber_> vagrantc true
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| 15:03 | <rad4Christ> Thanks guys! One last thing for today.
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| 15:04 | for localapps, do I still need to create custom shortcuts in order to tell the client to run it locally, or if it is install lcally to the image, will it automatically run locally?
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| 15:05 | <vagrantc> rad4Christ: there's an lts.conf option to automatically enable it in xdg menus, which gnome uses
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| 15:05 | LOCALAPPS_MENU or some such
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| 15:05 | <dobber_> i had to make a custom shortcut for my local apps
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| 15:06 | <rad4Christ> vagrantc: basically like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPLocalAppsJaunty
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| 15:07 | <vagrantc> i haven't really used it anywhere, merely set it up to test that it works on debian
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| 15:08 | <rad4Christ> OK
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| 15:08 | <alkisg> man lts.conf ==. LOCAL_APPS_MENU: boolean, default False
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| 15:08 | <rad4Christ> Thanks for the help, now off to another client!
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| 15:12 | <PMantis> What's up my homies?
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| 15:13 | Hmmm, looks like Gadi and ogra are the only nicks I recognize. LOL
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| 15:15 | #xfce hasn't been helpful so far. Anyone here know how to eliminate the desktop icons for all users of an LTSP server on Xubuntu?
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| 20:41 | <jammcq> hey all
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