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| 04:44 | <alkisg> Good morning all
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| 04:45 | laro: yes it's quite possible that UEFI is to blame, if you installed via CSM on a GPT disk without preparation
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| 08:08 | <rac_> Good afternoon,
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| 08:08 | anyone can help me ?
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| 08:09 | lts.conf ubuntu 16.04, LDM_SESSION="gnome-fallback" not respone,
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| 08:09 | error messages "gnome-session-fallback not found
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| 08:10 | <alkisg> rac_: do you have gnome-flashback, or are you using mate?
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| 08:12 | <rac_> I use a gnome-flashback,
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| 08:12 | <alkisg> rac_: ls /usr/share/xsessions
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| 08:12 | What's the output?
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| 08:16 | <rac_> gnome-flashback-compiz.desktop ubuntu.desktop gnome-flashback-metacity.desktop
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| 08:17 | I've tried to change the lts.conf DM_SESSION="gnome-flashback"
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| 08:18 | the client blank not respone
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| 08:18 | <alkisg> Put LDM_SESSION="gnome-flashback-metacity"
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| 08:19 | <rac_> ok, i will try,
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| 08:32 | <rac_> alkisg: a good solution, thank you very much
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| 08:32 | You are very helpful,
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| 15:07 | <Julienf> Hello!
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| 15:07 | Hey Alkisg I've installed Ubuntu Mate 16.04 and followed the steps of this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 15:08 | I've got everything working out of the box, it's amazing
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| 15:08 | but my first guess is that it started as a FAT client by default, is that normal ?
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| 15:23 | <Julienf> Ooops, after a simple reboot I know have a tftp timeout issue... any idea ?
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| 15:30 | I now have*
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| 15:35 | <vagrantc> make sure your tftp server is running ... i've seen tftpd-hpa fail to start randomly ...
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| 15:35 | or are you using dnsmasq?
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| 15:35 | * vagrantc really ought to push for dnsmasq as the preferred option for Debian stretch release... | |
| 15:37 | <Julienf> I'm using dnsmasq with my router as the DHCP
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| 15:37 | let me check tftp
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| 15:38 | I'm using dnsmasq with my router as the DHCP
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| 15:38 | <vagrantc> is dnsmasq telling it which server to boot from? by default, it tells the clients to boot from the dnsmasq server
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| 15:39 | <Julienf> mmm tftpd-hpa.service not found
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| 15:39 | <vagrantc> dnsmasq can function as a tftp server
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| 15:40 | one very common problem if your DHCP is not your LTSP server is the client will try to boot from the DHCP server, not the LTSP server, unless you've configured your DHCP server to tell it to boot from the LTSP server.
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| 15:41 | <Julienf> well on the PXEboot screen I can see the server's IP address to be correct
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| 15:41 | I've restarted dnsmasq
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| 15:41 | let me try
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| 15:42 | hmmm no luck, the Boot server IP is correct
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| 15:42 | but tftp is not locating the boot images...
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| 15:42 | <vagrantc> what tftp server are you using on the LTSP server?
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| 15:43 | <Julienf> well I'm not really sure of which one is being used
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| 15:43 | here is what I installed
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| 15:43 | apt-get --yes --install-recommends install dnsmasq ltsp-server-standalone ltsp-client ldm-ubuntu-theme
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| 15:44 | <vagrantc> probably dnsmasq ... have you configured dnsmasq to be a tftp server? is dnsmasq running?
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| 15:44 | look in /etc/dnsmasq.conf and /etc/dnsmasq.d/*
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| 15:45 | <Julienf> the line enable-tftp is commented in the dnsmasq.conf
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| 15:45 | but then the question is how come it worked before I rebooted the ltsp server ?
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| 15:46 | <vagrantc> are there any /etc/dnsmasq.d/*.conf files?
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| 15:46 | <Julienf> yes a ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf
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| 15:47 | <vagrantc> probably ran ltsp-config dnsmasq at some point...
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| 15:47 | is enable-tftp set in there?
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| 15:47 | <Julienf> yup
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| 15:47 | <vagrantc> and then, is dnsmasq running?
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| 15:47 | <Julienf> installation step of this page
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| 15:47 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 15:48 | first answer, yes enable-tftp is uncommented in the conf file
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| 15:49 | is dnsmasq running ? I restarted it with the service dnsmasq restart command
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| 15:49 | the terminal returns immediatly with no acknowledgement
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| 15:50 | <Julienf> I'm not sure this answers your question
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| 15:50 | <vagrantc> pgrep -l -a -f dnsmasq
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| 15:50 | or: service dnsmasq status
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| 15:52 | <Julienf> according to the service status comment dnsmasq is running
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| 15:52 | according to pgrep, I get a pid
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| 15:53 | I'm rechecking the main conf file for dnsmasq
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| 15:53 | the conf-dir=/etc/dnsmasq.d line is commented
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| 15:54 | <vagrantc> that's odd.
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| 15:54 | <Julienf> isn't it...
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| 15:54 | I'm restarting the service after uncommenting the line including .conf files in this directory
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| 15:55 | <vagrantc> or not... hmmm.
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| 15:56 | <Julienf> You have something in mind ?
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| 15:56 | what I think is odd is that it worked perfectly before I rebooted
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| 15:56 | <vagrantc> what version of dnsmasq do you have installeD?
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| 15:57 | <Julienf> and I just rebooted because epoptes was rejecting my user from running it (I had to restart so the user was properly added to the group)
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| 15:57 | dnsmasq verion 2.75
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| 15:57 | <vagrantc> ok, it's normal for those lines to be commented out ... maybe they're enabled by default now.
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| 15:58 | <Julienf> how can I know if the conf files is loaded in dnsmasq ?
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| 15:59 | <vagrantc> check /var/log/syslog
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| 15:59 | look at the output of: pgrep -l -a -f dnsmasq
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| 16:00 | looks like /etc/default/dnsmasq is configured to enable /etc/dnsmasq.d/ reading in it's commandline arguments
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| 16:00 | a little confusing that it's also an option listed in /etc/dnsmasq.conf ...
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| 16:02 | <Julienf> ohh wait
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| 16:02 | it seems I have two pid from pgrep
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| 16:02 | <vagrantc> "pgrep -l -a -f dnsmasq" should have a line with "-7 /etc/dnsmasq.d/...."
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| 16:03 | <Julienf> it does for the second pid
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| 16:03 | I dunno if it's normal but both PIDs reference the same bin
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| 16:03 | * vagrantc forgets | |
| 16:03 | * vagrantc boots up some ltsp servers to check | |
| 16:05 | <vagrantc> oh, not using dnsmasq on these servers...
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| 16:06 | <Julienf> Ok I tried to stop the dnsmasq service
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| 16:06 | the second PID is gone
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| 16:06 | but the first one (without the "-7 /etc/dnsmasq.d/" line in it) stays alive
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| 16:07 | <Julienf> this one seems to load its configuration from /etc/NetworkManager/dnsmasq.d
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| 16:07 | <vagrantc> ah, networkmangler strikes again
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| 16:07 | !networkmanager
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| 16:07 | <ltsp`> Error: "networkmanager" is not a valid command.
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| 16:07 | <vagrantc> !nm
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| 16:07 | <ltsp`> Error: "nm" is not a valid command.
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| 16:07 | <vagrantc> hrm.
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| 16:07 | alkisg might know more about weather that still needs to be disabled or not
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| 16:08 | <Julienf> do you suggest I try to stop the NetworkManager service ?
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| 16:08 | <vagrantc> well, that will most likely bring down your networking ...
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| 16:08 | <Julienf> ahhh :-)
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| 16:08 | then let's keep this one happy
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| 16:09 | <vagrantc> this is on ubuntu 16.04 ?
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| 16:09 | i'm not sure what the recommended network configuration on ubuntu for LTSP is these days...
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| 16:10 | i've been experimenting with using network-manager on debian, but it seems really buggy compared to just using ifupdown.
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| 16:10 | since an LTSP server should generally be statically configured networking, network-manager might be overkill ...
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| 16:10 | <Julienf> yes I'm on ubuntu mate 16.04 64 bits
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| 16:10 | I see
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| 16:11 | and yes, my ltsp server is being assigned it's IP by the router
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| 16:11 | * vagrantc attempts to summon alkisg | |
| 16:11 | <Julienf> I've allocated its IP so it doesn't change
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| 16:11 | <vagrantc> or anyone who actually uses ubuntu :)
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| 16:14 | <Julienf> I'm thinking that if I uncomment the config line in the dnsmasq conf file
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| 16:14 | then maybe networkmanager will run dnsmasq with the right conf file
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| 16:14 | and it will work properly
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| 16:14 | it's a theory though
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| 16:14 | let me give it a try
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| 16:18 | well I actually have two pids of dnsmasq at startup...
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| 16:21 | ok I think I nailed it
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| 16:21 | at boot two dnsmasq services are running
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| 16:21 | one spawned by network manager which takes its configuration from it's own files
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| 16:21 | and one which is the dnsmasq service itself
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| 16:21 | * alkisg got summoned... | |
| 16:21 | <Julienf> for a certain reason at reboot the Network Manager service has priority
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| 16:22 | <Julienf> if I just restart dnsmasq
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| 16:22 | <alkisg> Julienf: the nm-spawned dnsmasq should have been disabled by the ltsp-pnp page instructions
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| 16:22 | <Julienf> the new service gets the priority and it then works
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| 16:22 | well I'm quite sure I've followed all the steps
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| 16:22 | <alkisg> What's the output of this? dmesg | grep Break
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| 16:22 | Do you see any lines there?
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| 16:23 | <Julienf> yes, it returns that it will break the nbd-client.service/start
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| 16:24 | actually that it's been Breaking ordering cycle by deleting job nbd-client.service/start to be precise
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| 16:24 | <alkisg> OK, run this: sudo dpkg-divert --rename --divert /etc/nbd-client.init /etc/init.d/nbd-client
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| 16:24 | Then undo everything you've done to correct the issue, if you did anything,
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| 16:24 | and reboot the server
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| 16:25 | <Julienf> all I did was to uncomment a line in the dnsmasq.conf file, I'll recomment it
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| 16:26 | <alkisg> After it reboots, check that ping 8.8.8.8 works, and that there's only one dnsmasq running, and that dmesg | grep Break returns nothing
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| 16:26 | <Julienf> ok rebooting now
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| 16:27 | but alkisg to which section of this page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp) do you refer to when you say that the NetworkManager dnsmasq should be disabled ?
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| 16:28 | <alkisg> Paragraph dns issues, solution #1 of 2
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| 16:28 | <Julienf> well that's what confused me
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| 16:28 | I followed solution 2
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| 16:28 | and I though it was either 1 or 2
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| 16:29 | <alkisg> OK then you would have 2 dnsmasq instances running
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| 16:29 | <Julienf> yes that's the case
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| 16:29 | now dmesg returns nothing
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| 16:29 | <alkisg> But in my experience dnsmasq sometimes doesn't like not binding 0.0.0.0
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| 16:29 | <Julienf> but I still have two PIDs for dnsmasq
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| 16:29 | <alkisg> So if it's the same to you, follow solution one instead
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| 16:29 | If you want to keep solution 2, np we can still troubleshoot it if it needs troubleshooting
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| 16:31 | I.e. check if it works now
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| 16:32 | <Julienf> I'm finding this: Stop NetworkManager running it's own Dnsmasq $ sudo cp /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf.pkg $ sudo cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf \ | sed -e 's/dns=dnsmasq/#dns=dnsmasq/' \ > /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf $ sudo restart network-manager
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| 16:33 | do you think that can work ?
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| 16:33 | <alkisg> Are you talking about something outside the ltsp-pnp page?
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| 16:33 | <Julienf> yes
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| 16:33 | <alkisg> If so, please don't do it, no
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| 16:33 | <Julienf> ok
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| 16:33 | because at reboot the tftp time out
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| 16:34 | but when I restart dnsmasq it works immediately
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| 16:34 | <alkisg> Does it still timeout?
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| 16:34 | <Julienf> yes it does
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| 16:34 | and my guess is because two instances of dnsmasq are running
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| 16:34 | <alkisg> OK. Then solution #2 is still problematic due to another dnsmasq bug
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| 16:34 | So, follow solution #1 instead
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| 16:34 | <Julienf> one from NetworkManager that doesn't contain the right configuration but has priority at reboot
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| 16:35 | another one from dnsmasq alone that is correct but doesn't have priority
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| 16:35 | <alkisg> I mention the bug report at the bottom of the ltsp-pnp page
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| 16:35 | They listen in different interfaces
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| 16:35 | So they're compatible
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| 16:35 | The problem is that dnsmasq's implementation of "bind-interfaces" or "bind-dynamic" has some issues still
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| 16:36 | <Julienf> but then why when I restart the dnsmasq service (service dnsmasq restart) the PXE boot succeeds right away ?
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| 16:36 | <alkisg> Because then it sees the interface and correctly binds to it
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| 16:36 | <Julienf> I see
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| 16:36 | and do I need the dnsmasq that is being run by the NetworkManager ?
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| 16:36 | <alkisg> Undo solution #2, do solution #1
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| 16:37 | I can't describe it better than that
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| 16:37 | You'll end up with only one dnsmasq
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| 16:37 | <Julienf> with solution 1 will I be able to use my router as the DHCP server ?
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| 16:37 | <alkisg> (that will bind to 0.0.0.0 so it won't have the bind-dynamic issues)
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| 16:38 | With either solution
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| 16:38 | <Julienf> ok
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| 16:38 | so I remove the DNSMASQ_EXCEPT=lo from /etc/default/dnsmasq and I follow solution 1
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| 16:39 | <alkisg> And remove DNS_SERVER from lts.conf too
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| 16:39 | <Julienf> yup
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| 16:44 | <Julienf> ok restarting now...
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| 16:45 | * alkisg added a note about solution #1 being the suggested one, and about dpkg-divert nbd-client. | |
| 16:46 | <Julienf> on PID as you said and it contains a reference to the dnsmasq.d conf directory
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| 16:46 | <Julienf> let me check tftp is picking up correctly
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| 16:46 | <alkisg> Julienf: when you have a minute, do comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/+bug/1487679
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| 16:46 | I.e. that it affects you to, it sometimes deletes nbd-client (and some other times network-manager so no networking at all), etc
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| 16:46 | Without additional comments there, it'll take a very long time to get it solved
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| 16:48 | <Julienf> I will, but i'm affraid my problem is not solved yet
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| 16:48 | tftp is still timing out
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| 16:48 | <alkisg> Julienf: grep -r bind /etc/dnsmasq.d
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| 16:48 | Do you have some file mentioning "bind-interfaces" or "bind-dynamic"?
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| 16:48 | E.g. lxc or libvirt or whatever...
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| 16:48 | (not commented out, of course...)
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| 16:49 | <Julienf> yes I do
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| 16:49 | <alkisg> Which file?
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| 16:49 | <Julienf> I have 1.ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf 2. network-manager twice
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| 16:50 | <alkisg> Can you pastebin the whole output of that grep command?
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| 16:51 | <Julienf> http://pastebin.com/dtazbGG6
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| 16:51 | * alkisg hates the ubuntu-specific patches that cause more harm than do good | |
| 16:51 | <alkisg> OK, comment out this one: /etc/dnsmasq.d/network-manager:bind-interfaces
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| 16:52 | Then reboot and check if it works
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| 16:52 | <Julienf> rebooting
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| 16:53 | testing tftp
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| 16:55 | and it worked!
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| 16:55 | <alkisg> !learn alkisg-todo as document bind-interfaces
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| 16:55 | <ltsp`> The operation succeeded.
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| 16:56 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I think I'll make all those part of ltsp-config dnsmasq, if you don't mind!!! :D
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| 16:56 | Stupid ubuntu hackish patches for local resolver...
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| 16:57 | <Julienf> I'll be able to continue playing with this new toy thx!
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| 16:57 | by the way quick question, it seems the laptop booted as a fat client by default
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| 16:57 | is that normal /
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| 16:57 | ?
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| 16:57 | <vagrantc> if it has enough ram
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| 16:58 | <alkisg> >400 => fat, <400 => thin, configured by FAT_RAM_THRESHOLD=value in lts.conf
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| 16:58 | * vagrantc thought it was much higher than that | |
| 16:59 | <vagrantc> alkisg: as long as it doesn't break anything on debian :)
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| 16:59 | alkisg: and i guess i'll need to test it.
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| 16:59 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 16:59 | <Julienf> ok so basically if I want to force it as a thin client (to test the overall user experience as a thin) I just increase this value
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| 16:59 | <alkisg> Or set LTSP_FATCLIENT=False
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| 17:00 | <Julienf> ok
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| 17:00 | no need to rebuild the image when editing this file, correct ?
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| 17:00 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i'm really convinced it's time to default to dnsmasq... was thinking of doing another LTSP upload soonish to make that happen
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| 17:00 | <alkisg> yup
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| 17:00 | vagrantc: if you don't mind, it'd be much better to push bug fixes only for a few months,
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| 17:00 | because as long as we do that, I'm able to upload to ubuntu
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| 17:01 | When we start adding features or changing defaults, I'll have to start cherrypicking, which i'm not going to do,
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| 17:01 | <vagrantc> alkisg: how many few months?
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> so end users will need to use the ppa
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| 17:01 | <vagrantc> alkisg: and, with that in mind, and proposed bugfixes for the immediate future?
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> Whatever doesn't hurt debian much
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| 17:01 | <vagrantc> er, any proposed
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| 17:01 | <alkisg> Well, those dnsmasq issues are bugfixes
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| 17:02 | And I've already committed some after the last release
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| 17:02 | <vagrantc> alkisg: the debian freeze has proably been pushed back to early 2017
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| 17:02 | <alkisg> Then let's please delay small changes that add features for a while, we can add them later, right?
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| 17:03 | <vagrantc> alkisg: sure.
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| 17:03 | <alkisg> I'm sure that in September I'll need to push a lot more bugfixes, when schools will start using 16.04
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| 17:04 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i'm genrally fine with cherry-picking fixes ... it's my typical workflow as freeze approaches
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| 17:04 | <alkisg> I really don't like cherry-picking, when I'll have to do that again in Ubuntu/LTSP, it'll be time to start pushing to the PPA again :)
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| 17:05 | I'll gladly test ltsp-trunk even in 10.04 if I have to, but I don't like maintaining multiple branches
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| 17:06 | (well, as long as the new releases are compatible, of course)
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| 17:06 | <vagrantc> september is definitely getting a bit late to make *no* upstream uploads for debian... but i hear you.
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| 17:07 | <alkisg> vagrantc: I probably didn't express myself correctly
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| 17:07 | I want us to make a lot of debian uploads
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| 17:07 | I don't want new features in them though
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| 17:07 | As then they won't match the ubuntu microreleases policy and I won't be able to easily upload them to 16.04
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| 17:08 | So we can have ltsp 5.5.8 or even 5.5.20 released to debian and synced to 16.04, as long as they're bug fix releases
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| 17:09 | <vagrantc> don't have any major new features in mind, though i did really want to default to dnsmasq.
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| 17:09 | alkisg: i guess i can default to dnsmasq in debian without changing the default in ubuntu
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| 17:09 | <alkisg> If you said that 2 weeks ago, we'd have that in 16.04 as well :)
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| 17:10 | Or you can commit that change in October, no?
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| 17:11 | (or in any case as later as you can, e.g. summer)
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| 17:16 | <Julienf> hello again
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| 17:16 | I just started the same station as a thin client for test purpose
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| 17:17 | and I have a small terminal window always there on the top left corner just beneath the menu
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| 17:17 | is that normal ?
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| 17:17 | <alkisg> That's tilda or something, some smart terminal from the mate desktop
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| 17:18 | I'm sure there's a way to disable it
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| 17:18 | <Julienf> ohh ok
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| 17:18 | It's just surprising that when running as a fat client
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| 17:18 | that wasn't there
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| 17:19 | I'll see how to disable it
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| 17:19 | final question (just to make sure), if I want to start installing softwares what's the best approach ? I run a session on the desktop install what I need and then rebuild the image and voila ?
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| 17:21 | <alkisg> You login to the server normally via GUI, install software normally, and finally run ltsp-update-image -c /
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| 17:29 | <Julienf> I'm starting to love this already!
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| 17:29 | by the way
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| 17:29 | thin clients have very reasonable performance
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| 17:29 | it's actually hard to spot a difference with Fat
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| 17:29 | when it comes to screen responsiveness
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| 17:30 | <alkisg> ...with 1 client
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| 17:30 | <Julienf> I started two for the test
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| 17:30 | <alkisg> Try full screen youtube on both of them
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| 17:30 | On 10, you'll see 2 fps
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| 17:30 | <Julienf> hahaha it's a workstation
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| 17:30 | <alkisg> While on 10 fats, 30 fps
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| 17:30 | <Julienf> they are not supposed to watch youtube videos
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| 17:31 | or at least not all together
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| 17:31 | <alkisg> Are they supposed to scroll windows all together?
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| 17:31 | <Julienf> yeah
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| 17:31 | <alkisg> Scrolling needs the same bandwidth
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| 17:31 | <Julienf> well I'll keep the config as is
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| 17:31 | if the machine is good for FAT then it'll run FAT
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| 17:31 | otherwise thin
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| 17:32 | now I have two items left on my checklist
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| 17:32 | 1. Connect to FreeIPA ldap
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| 17:32 | 2. Make it run on a Raspberry PI to test perfomance and see if viable
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| 17:33 | any chance you have some documentation to connect Ubuntu to FreeIPA 4.3 ?
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| 17:33 | <alkisg> Nope
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| 17:34 | <vagrantc> free as in beer?
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| 17:34 | <Julienf> haha
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| 17:34 | yes
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| 17:34 | * vagrantc isn't much for IPAs | |
| 17:35 | <Julienf> well to be honest I've made some googling and that was the recos I could get
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| 17:35 | for a directory system
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| 17:35 | I'm not a sysadmin myself, learning as I go
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| 17:37 | <alkisg> What other clients do you need to connect to that directory?
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| 17:37 | For ltsp clients, the passwd at the ltsp server is enough..
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| 17:38 | <Julienf> well I want to make them work with other debian, centos and OSX server machines
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| 17:38 | but I'll keep that in mind as a start for a few users
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| 17:38 | so they can test the waters and get back to me with softwares they would need
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| 17:38 | one quick question related to PXE boot
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| 17:38 | any idea how to let mac computers boot from PXE ?
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| 17:39 | I have a bunch of old mac mini I would like to boot as LTSP clients
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| 17:39 | <vagrantc> it's been a while since i've tried, but i did fight with network booting on macs a couple years ago
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| 17:40 | i think the apple motto is making simple things hard, and making random things easy.
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| 17:41 | <Julienf> hahaha
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| 17:41 | and you forgot another essential, make cheap things expensive!
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| 17:41 | <vagrantc> oh, yeah.
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| 17:42 | <Julienf> well for iOs development that's still inevitable, maybe swift will change that
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| 17:43 | <vagrantc> Julienf: basically, network booting macs is really hard using mac boot services, and harder if you want to do it with a linux boot server ... but not impossible
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| 17:44 | <Julienf> when you say hard, do you mean it's better to buy other piece of hardware ?
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| 17:46 | <vagrantc> depends on your resources
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| 17:47 | Julienf: you might find something useful to decipher out of: https://github.com/freegeek-pdx/netboot-config
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| 17:51 | <Julienf> Thanks for that, I'll check this out
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| 17:53 | <vagrantc> i don't think i ever got x86 macs network booting linux
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| 17:53 | but if they're the older powerpc mac mini, the yaboot configs might be useful ... presuming powerpc works at all in recent distros
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| 17:54 | Julienf: i'd focus on other things before getting those working, though ... it ate several weeks of my time and still didn't have it working well.
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| 17:55 | <sigmar> holas
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| 17:55 | * vagrantc waves | |
| 17:56 | <Julienf> hmm
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| 17:56 | well you are right, it's not my top priority now
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| 17:56 | I already have other stations I can recycle
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| 17:56 | and that's what I'll be focusing on
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| 17:57 | by the way, as you suggested YouTube video full screen is crappy when running as ThinClient on a 100Mbits network card
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| 17:57 | but on a 1Gbit network card it's super smooth
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| 17:58 | anyways I kept the fat clients config when possible
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| 17:58 | <sigmar> español
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| 17:58 | <Julienf> Thanks for everything, LTSP really rocks, wondering why there aren't more people using it
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| 17:59 | Ola sigmar, no habla ingles ? no creo que hay alguien que habla spanol aqui
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| 17:59 | y mi espanol no esta perfecto :-)
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| 18:00 | dice que necessitas ? a lo mejor te puedo ayudar
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| 18:00 | <sigmar> referente a epoptes
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| 18:01 | <Julienf> si ?
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| 18:01 | <sigmar> como hacer un chat interno en una intranet
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| 18:02 | tambien como transferir archivos en las computadoras conectadas
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| 18:03 | <Julienf> bueno, no se si puedo hace un chat interno con epoptes y tambien no creo que este possible transferir archivos
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| 18:03 | me voy a preguntar los experts aqui
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| 18:03 | <vagrantc> pienso que no es posible con epoptes.
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| 18:03 | <Julienf> hahaha so you speak spanish
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| 18:04 | <vagrantc> a veces
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| 18:04 | <Julienf> que chido!
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| 18:04 | <vagrantc> olvido mucho
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| 18:04 | <Julienf> tengo que salir! (mi tambien)
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| 18:04 | hasta luego
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| 19:14 | <laro> hello
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| 19:15 | alkisg: laro: yes it's quite possible that UEFI is to blame, if you installed via CSM on a GPT disk without preparation
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| 19:15 | How can I prepare the disk to install ubuntu 32bit_
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| 19:17 | or should I give up ltsp-pnp and go standalone_
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| 19:17 | ?
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| 19:59 | <alkisg> laro: ltsp-pnp or standalone is not related to the inability to install ubuntu
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| 19:59 | if you don't install ubuntu first, how are you going to install ltsp standalone later?
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| 20:00 | There are many wiki pages with instructions on how to enable csm mode and install ubuntu 32 bit on gpt
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| 20:00 | and of course you can format to mbr if you prefer
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| 20:01 | And if your clients are 64bit, you can also install 64bit and use ltsp-pnp there as well
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