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Channel log from 17 November 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 10:26 | <alkisg> Hi, I downloaded "openSUSE-13.1-DVD-Build0084-i586.iso" but I only see installation and rescue modes, isn't there a live mode available on that DVD?
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| 10:28 | Meh sorry wrong channel :)
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| 10:28 | But on the bright side, groupadd is available on opensuse too :D
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| 18:22 | <alkisg> vagrantc: debian, ubuntu, gentoo, fedora and opensuse all have useradd and groupadd... so, I'm committing the change, but without "non-unique", right?
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| 18:40 | <vagrantc> alkisg: and the same syntax?
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| 18:40 | <alkisg> vagrantc: yes, it's the same application exactly, they seem to have taken it from debian
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| 18:40 | <vagrantc> alkisg: without non-unique, it essentialls behaves the same as it does now?
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| 18:41 | <alkisg> The whole shadow package
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| 18:41 | <vagrantc> alkisg: well, that's good news, then.
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| 18:41 | <alkisg> I'm not sure if now it has a specific way that it works, or if it's semi-random... :)
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| 18:41 | I think it'd be better to define it from scratch
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| 18:42 | <vagrantc> i'm fairly sure it creates a new group if one already exists with the same gid ...
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| 18:42 | er, new gid
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| 18:42 | <alkisg> That's the --force without the --non-unique
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| 18:42 | But what about the other cases?
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| 18:43 | * vagrantc alreaady forgot | |
| 18:43 | <vagrantc> too busy trying to sort out u-boot in debian
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| 18:45 | * alkisg tests the old code instead of ...reading it... :) | |
| 19:00 | <alkisg> SERVER: uid=1014(angelos) gid=1014(angelos) groups=1014(angelos),126(vboxusers),1004(a2),1003(a1)
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| 19:00 | CLIENT uid=1014(angelos) gid=1014(g1014) groups=1014(g1014),261(vboxusers),1003(a1)
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| 19:00 | vagrantc: so the current code fails miserably in a lot of cases...
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| 19:00 | <vagrantc> oh, that's well known :)
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| 19:00 | <alkisg> It didn't create a gid for "angelos=1014" because one already existed,
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| 19:00 | <vagrantc> that it fails badly
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| 19:01 | <alkisg> it didn't create a group for 1004(a2) because another with gid=1004 existed etc
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| 19:04 | OK so to sum up, (a) if a group name exists, just use it, (b) if a gid exists, create the group with another gid
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| 19:05 | So that would behave differently than it does now, i.e. not "angelos:g1014", but "angelos:angelos" = "1014:1015random"
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| 19:06 | And hopefully that's the right thing to do, for tar etc to work correctly
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| 19:37 | <vagrantc> alkisg: the only right thing to do is make sure thee aren't differences across machines ... so it's just a question of what the least bad thing is
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| 19:37 | <alkisg> vagrantc: what do you mean "differences across machines"?
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| 19:38 | <vagrantc> alkisg: mismatched name/gid
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| 19:38 | <alkisg> File systems (e.g. NFS) or programs (e.g. TAR) that do ID mapping, would behave better with --non-unique
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| 19:38 | Those that do name mapping would behave better without it
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| 19:39 | <vagrantc> if you think there's a compelling reason to use --non-unique, let's try it :)
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| 19:39 | <alkisg> It makes code 3 lines shorter and it's just a bit more consistent :D
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| 19:40 | But other than that, I think we should wait for bug reports with actual use cases where --non-unique is prefered or not
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| 19:40 | * alkisg puts --non-unique back... :) | |
| 19:40 | <vagrantc> alkisg: would it be too much to ask to keep the codingstyle consistancy in a separate commit? :)
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| 19:41 | <alkisg> Meh. I think it's the 20th time I do that, you should have caught me doing so sooner :P
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| 19:42 | vagrantc: should I also cache/restore shadow and gshadow?
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| 19:42 | <vagrantc> no worries
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| 19:42 | <alkisg> And, sed them?
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| 19:42 | The previous code didn't; but I think we need to
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