IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 5 December 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:36 | <rakesh> hi
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| 07:36 | <Guest76826> r u there
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| 09:06 | <alkisg> !socat
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| 09:06 | <ltsp> socat: One way to share a console with a remote person is: [local pc] forward port 5500; apt-get install socat; socat tcp-listen:5500,keepalive=1 stdio,raw,echo=0 [remote pc] apt-get install socat screen; socat SYSTEM:"sleep 1; exec screen -xRR ra",pty,stderr tcp:REMOTE-IP:5500 & screen -l -S ra
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| 09:22 | <rickogden> morning
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| 09:22 | <alkisg> Good morning
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| 09:22 | <rickogden> I'm aware that if I do a poweroff -fp it doesn't cleanly close the NBD connection, but poweroff does
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| 09:22 | can I run a command to manually close the NBD connection before poweroff -fp?
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| 09:23 | <alkisg> Supposedly the /usr/share/ltsp/nbd-disconnect code does just that
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| 09:23 | But maybe the ubuntu hooks are wrong for that file...
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| 09:24 | <rickogden> thanks, I'll give it ago
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| 09:24 | <alkisg> I.e. it should work automatically
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| 09:24 | Without you doing anything
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| 09:24 | <rickogden> ah ok
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| 09:24 | even if you do a force poweroff?
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| 09:24 | <alkisg> No
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| 09:25 | <rickogden> as I need to do poweroff -fp otherwise the client shuts down and but doesn't actually power off the machine
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| 09:25 | so I've replaced /sbin/poweroff with my own script on the client
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| 09:26 | (which simply calls poweroff with the -fp switch)
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| 09:26 | <alkisg> Then the ubuntu hooks are wrong, nbd-disconnect isn't called and need to be fixed
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| 09:26 | <ogra_> alkisg, poweroff -fp wont call anything
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| 09:27 | it will force the kernel to power down immediately
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| 09:27 | <alkisg> ogra_: yup
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| 09:27 | (11:24:42 πμ) rickogden: even if you do a force poweroff?
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| 09:27 | (11:24:45 πμ) alkisg: No
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| 09:27 | That's why I said "no" there
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| 09:27 | <ogra_> so there is nothing to fix :)
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| 09:27 | <alkisg> nbd-disconnect is called on normal shutdown
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| 09:27 | We no longer do poweroff -fp
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| 09:27 | That's rickogden's customization
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| 09:27 | <ogra_> rickogden does in his script
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| 09:27 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 09:28 | <ogra_> and it works if he uses normal poweroff
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| 09:28 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 09:28 | <ogra_> so nothing is broken :)
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| 09:28 | <alkisg> Nope
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| 09:28 | There are 2 issues
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| 09:28 | 1) poweroff should work
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| 09:28 | 2) the nbd connection should be closed
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| 09:28 | nbd-disconnect should handle both of them
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| 09:28 | <rickogden> sorry, I'm horribly confused now
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| 09:28 | <alkisg> The ubuntu hooks are wrong so nbd-disconnect isn't called so (1) doesn't work
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| 09:29 | And with his solution, (2) doesn't work
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| 09:29 | So Ubuntu needs fixing
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| 09:29 | * ogra_ doesnt see where nbd-disconnect doesnt work above | |
| 09:29 | <alkisg> ogra_: it doesn't get called on the poweroff upstart event
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| 09:29 | While it should
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| 09:30 | Or, on the nbd-client service being stopped
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| 09:30 | <rickogden> since the shutdown doesn't work for me, and Ubuntu is broken, shouldn't I manually call nbd-disconnect?
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| 09:31 | <alkisg> rickogden: a patch for ubuntu needs to be found, and then you'd just need to use that in your installation...
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| 09:31 | <ogra_> if the machine doesnt power down, it means that an upstart job didnt return so all other following jobs stay in wait
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| 09:31 | find the offending job ...
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| 09:31 | <alkisg> ogra_: it's not just that
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| 09:32 | Some NICs prohibit poweroff if they're in up state (!)
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| 09:32 | Anyway, /me needs to do some remote support for some teachers here, later... :)
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| 09:32 | * ogra_ waves | |
| 09:32 | <ogra_> ... and goes to a meeting himself
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| 09:33 | <rickogden> thanks for your help guys
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| 12:44 | <pc01> i have this problem
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| 12:45 | the epoptes GUI doesnt shaw the clients
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| 12:46 | i have tried all what i could fined on the web about this with out succession
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| 19:05 | <vagrantc> !greekschoolsppa
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| 19:05 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'greekschoolsppa', but I do know about these similar topics: 'greek-schools-ppa'
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| 19:05 | <vagrantc> !greek-schools-ppa
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| 19:05 | <ltsp> greek-schools-ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ supports LTS Ubuntu releases with newer LTSP versions, bug fixes etc
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| 21:15 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: what packaging replaced your old one?
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| 21:35 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: i don't use launchpad
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| 21:35 | bennabiy: i think alkisg tried to set up another mirror
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| 21:36 | but probably failed with the wrong url or something
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| 21:36 | <alkisg> Yeah, I think I had to upload the whole packaging branch manually the last time
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| 21:37 | * alkisg would prefer it if the debian/ folder was upstream in ltsp-trunk... but that's a long story :D | |
| 21:38 | <vagrantc> alkisg: it was originally, but then wtogami got grumpy about it, and at the time it was actually technically difficult to do in debia anyways.
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| 21:38 | <alkisg> wtogami has fedora packaging files upstream though :)
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| 21:39 | <vagrantc> although i find some annoying issues with packaging in upstream... it's kind of hard to work with which branching a version from upstream.
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| 21:39 | the sad news is i don't have the skill with bzr to re-merge the debian dir again.
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| 21:40 | without loosing history
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| 21:40 | since the current packaging is a fork which removed and renamed a messload of files.
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| 21:41 | TONs of merge conflicts.
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| 21:41 | <alkisg> vagrantc: btw since you're using launchpad for the code, why not do the same for the packaging too? Are there any advantages to using debian.org there?
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| 21:41 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i prefer to use debian infrastructure for debian work
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| 21:42 | also, historically, launchpad wasn't even open source, although that changed a few years ago finally :)
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| 21:42 | * alkisg would really like to be able to use launchpad recipes to build the latest ltsp/ldm etc, but unfortunately that's not easily possible now... | |
| 21:43 | <vagrantc> i can't find the mirroring options anymore
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| 21:43 | alkisg: i also liked having redundancy with having it both on launchpad and on debian infrastructure
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| 21:43 | the mirroring was (nearly) perfect for that...
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| 21:44 | although the delay in mirroring was somethings annoying
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| 21:44 | launchpad has some wack git importing features... hmmm.
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| 21:48 | <bennabiy> thank you
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| 21:49 | vagrantc: which virt tech do you see as better, xen, kvm or other?
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| 21:49 | using debian as the base
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| 21:49 | I am in the process of migrating a few of our physical servers to virt, and have experimented with both xen and kvm.
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| 21:52 | <alkisg> vagrantc: https://code.launchpad.net/ltsp/+new-import
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| 21:52 | <vagrantc> bennabiy: i've mostly been using libvirt with the kvm backend
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| 21:52 | alkisg: how'd you find it?
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| 21:52 | <alkisg> vagrantc: from my #launchpad logs :D
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| 21:52 | Google failed me...
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| 21:52 | <vagrantc> launchpad itself failed me...
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| 21:53 | <alkisg> OK there's a link there: https://help.launchpad.net/VcsImports
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| 21:56 | * alkisg created https://code.launchpad.net/~alkisg/ltsp/ltsp-debian-packaging ... | |
| 21:56 | * vagrantc wouldn't be surprised if alioth.debian.org URLs change again soonish | |
| 21:57 | <vagrantc> looks like i just re-added mine
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| 21:59 | <alkisg> vagrantc: if you plan to add ldm/ltspfs too, I'll remove my imported branches...
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| 21:59 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yeah, can.
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| 21:59 | <alkisg> ty, /me deletes...
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| 21:59 | <vagrantc> alkisg: though maybe wait till i actually do :)
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| 22:00 | <alkisg> Hehe, if you don't have them when I'm about to test 14.04, I'll create my own copies then
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| 22:04 | <vagrantc> huh. don't have a mirror of ltspfs-debian-packaging
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