IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 21 August 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:59 | <LaserJock> anybody alive over here?
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| 01:09 | <cyrenity> hi al
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| 01:10 | i ahve ubuntu dapper with ltsp 4.2
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| 01:11 | in ubuntu some machine monitor blinks so i add
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| 01:11 | [ws157]
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| 01:11 | X_MODE_0=1024x768
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| 01:11 | X_HORZSYNC=30-50
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| 01:11 | X_VERTREFRESH=50-60
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| 01:11 | in lts.conf file for that host
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| 01:11 | its hactic can i make profile for all to check GUI settings from global profile
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| 01:11 | <cyrenity> just as we have default
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| 01:11 | any idea
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| 01:12 | how ever i dont want to write for idividual clients
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| 03:15 | <mystafa> hi guys! i have another one question ;-)
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| 03:16 | what can i do to plug an usb flash at the client?
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| 03:16 | i don't have an lts.conf in the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc
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| 03:16 | version of ltsp - 5
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| 03:17 | <vagrantc> mystafa: linux distro ?
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| 03:18 | <mystafa> debian
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| 03:18 | <vagrantc> mystafa: dpkg -l 'ltsp*'
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| 03:18 | <mystafa> for what?
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| 03:18 | <vagrantc> well, i'd like to know what versions of the packages you have installed.
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| 03:19 | <mystafa> one sec
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| 03:19 | <vagrantc> if it produces a lot of output, please use the pastebot
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| 03:19 | !pastebot
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| 03:19 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 03:21 | <vagrantc> mystafa: or, better yet: dpkg -l 'ltsp*' | egrep ^ii
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| 03:22 | <mystafa> server - 0.99debian11
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| 03:22 | <cyrenity> hey
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| 03:22 | i need to have a profile
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| 03:22 | for lts.conf
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| 03:23 | <vagrantc> mystafa: could you just paste the output of the command ?
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| 03:23 | <ltsppbot> "mystafa" pasted "+++-=========================-" (3 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/283
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| 03:23 | <vagrantc> well, i should probably just go to sleep
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| 03:23 | <ltsppbot> "mystafa" pasted "ii ltsp-server 0.99debian11 Ba" (2 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/284
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| 03:24 | <mystafa> so?
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| 03:25 | <vagrantc> mystafa: first off, ltsp-utils and ltsp-server are incompatible ... ltsp-utils is for ltsp 4.x only. sorry we didn't catch that in time for etch release.
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| 03:25 | mystafa: we also didn't manage to upload ltspfs to debian in time for etch release...
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| 03:25 | <mystafa> and what i must do now?
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| 03:25 | <vagrantc> !debian
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| 03:25 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "debian" is is a GNU/Linux based operating system that makes an excellent LTSP server. You can find it at http://www.debian.org. for information about LTSP on debian see http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
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| 03:25 | <vagrantc> mystafa: check out the wiki pages above
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| 03:25 | mystafa: there should be a howto to use the backported LTSP related packages
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| 03:26 | <mystafa> i'll take the package from official repository
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| 03:26 | <vagrantc> mystafa: follow the howto, and your life will be simple.
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| 03:26 | <mystafa> ok... i will read it
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| 03:26 | ;)
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| 03:26 | i have a one more question
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| 03:26 | i don't have a lts.conf, but the client is booting ok
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| 03:27 | <vagrantc> yeah, LTSP 5 doesn't need an lts.conf unless you need to change the defaults.
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| 03:27 | <mystafa> where?
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| 03:27 | <vagrantc> ?
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| 03:27 | where what?
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| 03:28 | <mystafa> i wan't set LOCAL_DEV = Y .. where i must put it?
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| 03:28 | <vagrantc> /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 03:28 | create the file ...
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| 03:28 | first line should be [Default]
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| 03:28 | <mystafa> ok,i will try
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| 03:28 | thank you very musch
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| 03:28 | *much
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| 03:28 | <vagrantc> but it's LOCALDEV=Y
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| 03:28 | <mystafa> ok
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| 03:28 | <vagrantc> though with the backported packages, it automatically enables local devices if you have ltspfs installed
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| 03:29 | so you shouldn't need an lts.conf then either :)
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| 03:29 | <mystafa> http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP - there i can take an answer?
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| 03:29 | <vagrantc> yeah, check out the Howto
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| 03:29 | <mystafa> vagrantc, thank you! god bless you ;)
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| 03:30 | <ogra> vagrantc, up late ?
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| 03:30 | <vagrantc> ogra: yeah, saw someone off at the airport
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| 03:30 | <ogra> ah
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| 03:30 | <vagrantc> mystafa: the backport instructions are near the bottom
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| 03:30 | <mystafa> aha.. i see it
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| 03:33 | vagrantc must i install server? i have it... only a ltspfs?
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| 03:34 | <ogra> mystafa, ltspfsd needs to be on the client (in the chroot) ... not on the server
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| 03:35 | <vagrantc> mystafa: you need to install ltspfs on the server, and ltspfsd in the client. though ltsp-client depends on ltspfsd
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| 03:35 | <ogra> and ltspfs has to be on the server, it connects the daemon on the client
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| 03:35 | <vagrantc> well, the newer ltsp-client
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| 03:36 | <mystafa> ok.. i tell you: i have a working server now. not a standalone. must i do apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone?
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| 03:36 | <cyrenity> hey vagrant
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| 03:36 | <vagrantc> no
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| 03:36 | <mystafa> or only apt-get install ltspfs?
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| 03:36 | <cyrenity> i have a question'
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| 03:37 | <ogra> the latter
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| 03:37 | <vagrantc> mystafa: you can just install ltspfs
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| 03:37 | <mystafa> vagrantc ok!
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| 03:37 | <vagrantc> cyrenity: sorry, but i am going to sleep. you may as well ask your question anyways, so that others might be able to answer it.
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| 04:04 | <mystafa> i have installed ltspfs... where i can configure automount for cd and usb on the thinclients?
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| 04:15 | <ogra> its enabled by default if you have everything set up properly
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| 04:16 | you need these two packages installed in the right places, LOCALDEV=True in lts.conf and the user must be in the fuse group
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| 04:17 | tnen it will mount devices under /media/$USER/<devicname> in the desktop session
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| 04:17 | <mystafa> i set LOCALDEV=Y not TRUE,will it work?
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| 04:17 | <ogra> should, yes
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| 04:18 | well, the above is how it works on ubuntu, might be debian needs some extra steps (even though thats unlikely)
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| 04:18 | <mystafa> ok.. i will read more now
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| 04:19 | o! i put LOCAL_STORAGE = Y at the lts.conf,did i need it to mount devices on thinclient?
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| 04:19 | <ogra> no
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| 04:19 | only LOCALDEV is read by the client
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| 04:19 | <mystafa> ok
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| 04:19 | <ogra> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/DebugLocalDev might help a bit
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| 04:20 | <mystafa> big thx! i will learn it now
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| 04:21 | oh..i see. i don't have a fuse module loaded
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| 04:22 | <ogra> you need that only on the server though
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| 04:22 | <mystafa> yeah
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| 04:22 | i know
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| 04:22 | <ogra> yippie ....
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| 04:22 | * ogra dances | |
| 04:22 | <mystafa> ;-)
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| 04:22 | <ogra> no more fading with gnome-screensaver on thn clients ....
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| 04:23 | <mystafa> khm.. but i have all fuse contents installed.
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| 04:23 | how can i start it?
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| 04:24 | <ogra> well, modprobe fuse and put it in /etc/modules
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| 04:24 | modprobe will load it immediately, the modues file wil care for it on next boot
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| 04:24 | <mystafa> run modprobe fuse?
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| 04:24 | <ogra> yeah
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| 04:25 | <mystafa> at the `modules` add only `fuse`?
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| 04:25 | puted
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| 04:28 | <cyrenity> hey ogra
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| 04:28 | i have a question
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| 04:30 | <mystafa> i see that thiclient not in group `fuse`. i must put it there?
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| 04:31 | <cyrenity> i have ubuntu dapper with ltsp4.2
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| 04:31 | some of my thin clints seimesn monitors mostly wont get GUI
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| 04:31 | it blinks
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| 04:32 | so i add [ws157]
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| 04:32 | X_MODE_0=1024x768
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| 04:32 | X_HORZSYNC=30-50
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| 04:32 | X_VERTREFRESH=50-60
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| 04:32 | for every clint in lts.conf
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| 04:32 | can i make a profile so that i make a single entry for every lclient
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| 04:34 | <ogra> mystafa, the user you want to be able to have devices on his session needs to be in fuse ...
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| 04:35 | cyrenity, if the values are all the same you can just use a [Default] section
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| 04:36 | <Envite> Hello all from Spain
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| 04:36 | Hola a todos desde España
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| 04:37 | <mystafa> ogra i'll put him there... but usb flash not working yet. reading wiki ;-) must i have a strings on the /etc/fstab?
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| 04:37 | Envite hi
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| 04:39 | <ogra> mystafa, if you plugged in the device there shoud be something in the clients fstab ...
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| 04:39 | <cyrenity> well i read some where i can add a profile
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| 04:40 | <mystafa> ogra _should be_ or i must put it manually?
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| 04:41 | ogra there nothing at all
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| 04:52 | <ogra> mystafa, follow the steps on the wikipage and check one by one ... if yu plug in a (partitioned!) device, udev recognizes it and creates the line for it in the temporary fstab on the client
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| 04:53 | <mystafa> what it means - partitioned?
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| 04:53 | <ogra> it must be a partition table on the device
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| 04:53 | (ltspfs cant mount /dev/sdb but only /dev/sdb1)
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| 04:54 | <mystafa> hmm.. it works on the server
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| 04:54 | <ogra> or /dev/sdX
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| 04:54 | does it have a partiton table ?
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| 04:56 | <mystafa> how i can check it?
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| 04:56 | <ogra> fdisk -l <devicename>
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| 04:59 | <mystafa> agrh... server can't connect it.. says that some problems at libhal-storage
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| 05:01 | <ogra> if you do rhe fdisk command ???
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| 05:03 | <mystafa> ogra no... 'cause the server not connect it
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| 05:03 | now i'll try to plug cd
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| 05:03 | <ogra> it doesnt need to be connected for the fdisk command
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| 05:04 | <mystafa> where i can take a <devicename>?
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| 05:04 | <ogra> look at the end of the output of the dmesg command right after you plugged it in
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| 05:05 | it should talk about /dev/sdX
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| 05:05 | <mystafa> ok
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| 05:05 | <ogra> were X is a,b,c or d usually
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| 05:06 | <mystafa> hm...
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| 05:06 | dmesg says that it attached
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| 05:06 | <ogra> with which devicename ?
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| 05:07 | <mystafa> sda1
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| 05:07 | <ogra> ok, thats a partition name
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| 05:07 | <ogra> if it would only be sda it wouldnt work, so you can rule out that one
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| 05:07 | <mystafa> what should i do?
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| 05:09 | <ogra> plug it in to the client and look at the console at the dmesg command there as well for a start
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| 05:09 | <mystafa> ok
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| 05:09 | <ogra> you should see similar output
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| 05:11 | <mystafa> client dmesg doesn't say anything :(
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| 05:12 | <ogra> looks like your kernel has a problem then
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| 05:12 | (on the client)
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| 05:13 | <mystafa> but i build it from `ltsp-build-client`...and when it booting,i see that it has a supporting usb
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| 05:13 | <ogra> yu should see something like the listing in step 2 in the chroot debugging info on the wikipage
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| 05:13 | <mystafa> ok... i will read it again
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| 05:15 | hm.. one more thing.when i tell `dmesg` in the server. and when i tell it on the client. doesn't client take it (result) from a server?
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| 05:15 | like a `copy`
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| 05:17 | <ogra> no
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| 05:17 | thats why you have to do it on the client console (as the debug doc says)
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| 05:18 | <mystafa> in that way, client answer is normal.it's says what i see at the server
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| 05:18 | <ogra> good
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| 05:18 | <mystafa> but it nothing gives me ;)
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| 05:18 | <ogra> so while the device is plugged in you should see a line for it in /etc/fstab
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| 05:18 | cat /etc/fstab
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| 05:19 | ^^^ run that on the client console
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| 05:19 | you should see a line for /dev/sda1
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| 05:19 | <mystafa> no..it no there
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| 05:20 | <ogra> dpkg -l ltspfsd
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| 05:20 | run that on the client console
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| 05:20 | <mystafa> on the server?
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| 05:20 | ok
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| 05:20 | <ogra> it should return a line stating with ii
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| 05:20 | *starting
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| 05:20 | <mystafa> yes
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| 05:21 | <ogra> ps ax|grep ltspfsd
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| 05:21 | does that return a line ?
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| 05:21 | <mystafa> yeah
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| 05:21 | <ogra> hmm, so its running
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| 05:23 | smells a bit like debians udev rules are broken ....
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| 05:23 | <mystafa> i'm interested in one thing.. why server doesn't mount this flas?
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| 05:23 | *flash
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| 05:23 | <ogra> no idea, and unrelated to the client
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| 05:23 | <mystafa> ogra smell like i'am configured it not clean ;)
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| 05:24 | <ogra> well on the client the file /etc/udev/rules.d/88-ltsp.rules shoul dbe fired up by udev if the kernel detects the device ...
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| 05:24 | its responsible for the entry in fstab on the client
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| 05:25 | you cant configure anything at this level ... so i doubt its a configuration problem on your side
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| 05:25 | <mystafa> what i must do now? :|
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| 05:26 | <ogra> these rules are always used, the LOCALDEV variable only rules if ltspfsd starts or not
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| 05:26 | <ogra> wait fr vagrant to come back and run through it with him, i dont know whats debian doing there
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| 05:26 | <mystafa> ogra ok... thank's for helping!
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| 05:26 | <ogra> to me it smells like the rules file is broken or something
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| 05:28 | * ogra is appy he doesnt have such probs in ubuntu | |
| 05:28 | <mystafa> ;-)
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| 05:52 | <cliebow_> onats, betterlate than never..Ill be boatng today..but checking in once in a while..
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| 06:55 | <onats> hi cliebow,
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| 06:56 | i saw in the wiki of ltsp that you did implement a system using 2200s...
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| 06:56 | you there?
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| 07:01 | <cliebow_> yeah..for a minute..
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| 07:03 | <markit> 2200?
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| 07:05 | <cliebow_> yes 8363exx
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| 07:06 | one of those models is tokenring..best not get into that
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| 07:15 | <ian_> shit, i thought you could touch a chickatrice, but not a cockatrice
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| 07:17 | oh
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| 07:17 | hi
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| 07:55 | <onats> i saw some units here in our country, i think the model is DWR. it has a sticker of windows CE.
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| 07:56 | may i know how you set it up? the server, and the installation process?
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| 08:04 | <Guaraldo> good morning, all...
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| 08:57 | <Bog_> bill: so what software do you plan on using?
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| 08:57 | <bill_c> Bog_, openoffice, firefox, gimp, a few custom apps
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| 08:57 | <Ryudo> guaraldo
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| 08:57 | blz ?
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| 08:58 | <Bog_> bill: ok, thats on the server... but I still dont know how users connect to the server
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| 08:59 | <bill_c> Bog_, well with the pxe boot, the thin client will connect to the server by downloading a little bit of linux from the server (ltsp)
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| 08:59 | <Bog_> I dont care about the boot.
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| 08:59 | <bill_c> Bog_, if you want to connect from a windurs box (ick), can use nxclient, vnc, or cygwin
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| 08:59 | <Bog_> nxclient and whats the server?
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| 09:00 | <bill_c> freenx or nx server, installed on the terminal server
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| 09:00 | <sbalneav> Morning all.
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| 09:00 | <ogra> !s
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| 09:00 | <ltspbot> ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:00 | <sbalneav> Hey ogra!
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| 09:01 | Got the key exchange implemented last night. It's not working, I think I've got a bug somewhere, but the implementation was easy enough.
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| 09:01 | <ogra> if you manage it before beta thats fine ...
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| 09:01 | <sbalneav> I was also thinking, as an additional check, we could check the host we're trying to connect to, and if it's differenent from the SSH_CLIENT variable, that will reject as well.
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| 09:02 | <sbalneav> When's beta?
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| 09:02 | <ogra> archive is frozen for tribe5 anywa until thursday
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| 09:02 | <sbalneav> This Friday?
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| 09:02 | <ogra> 4 weeks iirc
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| 09:02 | <sbalneav> Phht, I'll have something going by today.
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| 09:02 | Man, is it a new tribe already?!!
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| 09:03 | <ogra> yeah :/
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| 09:03 | having two tribes in four weeks ...
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| 09:03 | which doesnt leave me much time for bugs :(((
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| 11:34 | <jammcq> hey kidz
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| 11:34 | * jammcq is STILL listening to sbalneav's voice mail | |
| 11:34 | <ogra> heh
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| 11:34 | <sbalneav> heh
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| 11:35 | <ogra> jammcq: <ogra> sbalneav, do you have any clue where to get a list with the oss drivers that are still needed for some clients ? ubuntu disabled all oss stuff and i want it re enabled but the kernel team needs a list ... i have kahlua on it so far ...
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| 11:35 | <jammcq> the only audio device I'm aware of being a problem is the sis 7019
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| 11:35 | <sbalneav> It wasn't THAT long
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| 11:35 | :)
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| 11:35 | <ogra> <ogra> the sis7019 source is sadly not licensed at all ... else i'd get it in :/
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| 11:35 | <jammcq> oh yeah, kahlua too
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| 11:35 | <sbalneav> I mean, I know I have a tendency to ramble a bit... :)
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| 11:35 | <jammcq> sbalneav: ramble? heh
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| 11:36 | <ogra> at least i managed to have all build requirements in the headers again so building sis7019 will at least be possible
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| 11:36 | <jammcq> ogra: that's at least helpful
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| 11:36 | <sbalneav> ogra: Wonder if who we'd contact to see if we could get the sis7019 licensed properly?
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| 11:36 | <ogra> sbalneav, no idea who put it on the ltsp wiki
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| 11:37 | * jammcq wonders what it would take to either 1) Find the author and get him to make it gpl friendly. or 2) Write an alsa driver for that chipset | |
| 11:37 | <ogra> i grabbed my source from there and modified it
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| 11:37 | jammcq, 2 would be preferred ... but as long as thats not there we need to resort to what we havce
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| 11:45 | <ogra> jammcq, any trident cards you know of the top of your head that cant be used with alsa ?
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| 11:48 | <JanetFLorida> can anyone tell me how to increase swap for LTSP clients?
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| 11:49 | <jammcq> ogra: me and etyack don't recall ever seeing a trident audio chipset
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| 11:50 | <ogra> well, there is a tridet oss driver apparently :)
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| 11:50 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 11:50 | <ogra> but if you dont recall ... i dont either ...
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| 11:51 | <JanetFLorida> can anyone tell me how to increase swap for LTSP clients?
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| 11:51 | <jammcq> JanetFLorida: using which version of LTSP ?
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| 11:52 | <JanetFLorida> 5 i think, the one in 7.04 edubuntu
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| 11:52 | <jammcq> ogra: any ideas?
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| 11:52 | <ogra> jammcq, i answered in #edubuntu already :)
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| 11:53 | create the file /etc/ltsp/nbdswapd.conf on the server
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| 11:53 | put SIZE=64 in there for 64MB swap per client ...
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| 11:53 | <jammcq> oh, sweet
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| 12:01 | <ogra> jammcq, anyway, i'll call it a day, if you or anyone else has any oss drivers coming to mind where no alsa equivalent exists, add comments on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/130330
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| 12:13 | <jammcq> prpplague: hey dave
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| 12:13 | <Ryudo> Janet
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| 12:13 | how you version ?
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| 12:13 | 5 or 4.x ?
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| 12:15 | <prpplague> jammcq: hey hey
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| 12:15 | jammcq: whats cookin?
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| 12:15 | <jammcq> umm, lunch
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| 12:16 | <prpplague> hehe
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| 12:16 | jammcq: whats new in TC world?
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| 12:17 | <jammcq> hmm, not so much
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| 12:17 | <jammcq> LTSP in Ubuntu is looking really good
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| 12:19 | <prpplague> jammcq: got ltsp on any cool devices lately?
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| 12:20 | <jammcq> hmm, not so much
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| 12:20 | <prpplague> http://www.amazon.com/Vtech-V-Smile-TV-Learning-System/dp/B00023JJOS
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| 12:21 | jammcq: that would be cute to run ltsp on
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| 12:39 | <kusznir> Hello: Is anyone here familiar with the NeoWare Eon clients & PCI video?
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| 12:40 | <kusznir> I'm trying to follow the suggestions on the neoware wiki page (onboard video sucks; use PCI video card), but whenever I install my PCI video card, I get no video.
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| 12:42 | <Guarald1> jammcq: is that possible to rotate monitor on LTSP 4.2 ?
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| 12:43 | <JanetFLorida> orga, i think the added SIZE=128 in nbdswapd.conf is configured correctly, but it didn't stop my X sessions from hanging, but now x login prompt restarts instead of a hang..., any suggestions
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| 12:43 | <Guarald1> jammcq: its a 3dfx vodoo 3 VGA
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| 12:43 | <JanetFLorida> orga, s/orga/ogra/ :)
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| 12:54 | <JanetFLorida> does anybody have input as to why LTSP X clients could crash?
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| 12:55 | <bill_c> what kind of crash? hard lock, reboot etc..
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| 12:57 | <JanetFLorida> the display and mouse froze, i increased LTSP swap file size from default (32m) to (64m), and now instead of freeze, after surfing pages of amazon images, the screen just returns to login prompt instead of freezing
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| 12:59 | bill_c, a firefox crash file did get created in /var/crash this time...
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| 13:00 | <bill_c> I would try taking swap up to 128m
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| 13:00 | I don't normally put less than 128m of ram in my thin clients
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| 13:01 | <JanetFLorida> 128m had same effect as 64m
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| 13:03 | i'm using a DevonIT 6030p w/128m ram internal...
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| 13:04 | <jammcq> Guarald1: it's possible to specify a full Xorg.conf file. in that file you can specify a rotate
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| 13:05 | bill_c: whoa!!! long time dude
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| 13:06 | <bill_c> jammcq, hey, yeah I keep thinking things will calm down... then boom
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| 13:07 | JanetFLorida, what screen size you doing?
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| 13:08 | <JanetFLorida> freeze happens on 1440x900, 800x600, 1280x1024, and is re-createable by viewing amazon catalog pages
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| 13:09 | <Ryudo> my terminals are freezing too janet
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| 13:09 | <JanetFLorida> at least i'm not alone :)
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| 13:09 | <Ryudo> when i'm open powerpoint apresentations and high resolution images
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| 13:09 | <bill_c> can you increase the video ram? Those are prolly using shared ram
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| 13:09 | <Ryudo> the terminal freeze :/, and i need reset it
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| 13:10 | <JanetFLorida> bill_c, where?
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| 13:10 | <bill_c> bios
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| 13:10 | <Ryudo> hom i'm icrease video ram in ltsp 5 ?
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| 13:10 | hum my terminals have 8 mb video memory
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| 13:10 | <JanetFLorida> ltsp thin terminals would use server bios for video mem?
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| 13:11 | bios of tc, not server?
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| 13:11 | <bill_c> you also might need to specify what the video ram is in the lts.conf, I've had some terminals not detect amount, and get cranky
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| 13:11 | <kusznir> JanetFLorida: No, terminals use bios of the terminal, not server.
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| 13:11 | <bill_c> yeah bios of tc
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| 13:12 | <Ryudo> bill_c
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| 13:12 | you know how parameter i need set in lts.conf of ltsp 5 for increase my terminal video memory ?
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| 13:12 | <jammcq> Ryudo: nothing
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| 13:12 | it's a HARDWARE/BIOS issue
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| 13:13 | <JanetFLorida> my bios has VGA Share Memory , options are 16m or 32m *32 default
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| 13:14 | <jammcq> if you choose 16m, it'll leave more for the thinclient
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| 13:14 | <JanetFLorida> my bios has AGP Aperture Size 4m-256m, default 64m
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| 13:14 | <jammcq> 16m should be plenty
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| 13:14 | <JanetFLorida> any guidance on AGP?
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| 13:15 | <jammcq> hmm, nope
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| 13:17 | <Ryudo> hum
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| 13:17 | I guess that the terminals are detecting incorrectly the memory video
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| 13:17 | it possibily its the cause of freezes ..i guess
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| 13:20 | <JanetFLorida> i wish i knew of a log i could review that might point to cause of freeze....
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| 13:20 | <Ryudo> sorry, but my english is sooo bad :D
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| 13:22 | <kusznir> Any hardware troubleshooting tips for a Neoware Eon 2000 that won't boot beyond the post beep when an Nvidia PCI card is installed?
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| 13:22 | (card works fine in regular PC; tried in 2 different neoware eon's)
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| 13:25 | <jammcq> kusznir: could be that the neoware doesn't supply the necessary voltages needed by the nvidia card
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| 13:26 | <jammcq> we had that problem win the T-150 thin clients. they only provide 3.3v and not 5.0v
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| 13:26 | so only certain pci cards would work in those machines
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| 13:26 | <kusznir> jammcq: any suggestions on how to test that?
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| 13:27 | <kusznir> jammcq: the newowares only supply 3.3V, but the nvidia card has the notches in the PCI connector in both places, which I thought meant its OK with either 3.3 or 5V.
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| 13:27 | <jammcq> hmm, dunno
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| 13:27 | i'm pretty sure it was nvidia's that we plugged into the T-150's and they didn't work
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| 13:29 | <kusznir> I see now on the box of the Nvidia card that it wants a 250W PSU; the neowares don't have that.
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| 13:29 | <EXP2> anyone else had same problem with terminals that have nvidia graphics. when user logs out, mouse pointer disappear...
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| 13:30 | <kusznir> EXP2: I have a lab of 20 workstations that don't have that problem, if that helps. LTSP4.2
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| 13:31 | i have 2 labs ubuntu 6.06/ltsp4.2 and 7.04/ltsp5... problem occurs in both
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| 13:31 | <kusznir> EXP2: have you tried the xorg settings to disable pointer acceleration and such?
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| 13:35 | you were talking about nvidia, so i asked if you have experienced same problems
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| 13:39 | <kusznir> I have not experienced that problem.
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| 14:38 | <prpplague> jammcq: that vtech vsmile is pretty interested, i've got linux hacking to one of that carts, you could put tftpboot on there
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| 14:44 | <jammcq> prpplague: you saying you have Linux running on that thing?
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| 14:44 | <prpplague> jammcq: yea, its arm based
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| 14:45 | <jammcq> heh
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| 14:45 | <prpplague> jammcq: arm720t
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| 14:45 | <jammcq> that's funny
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| 14:45 | <prpplague> jammcq: you know me, i love to hack the kids toys
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| 14:45 | <jammcq> poor kids
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| 14:45 | <prpplague> hehe
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| 14:45 | jammcq: i have a really nice linux distro for the pixter-multimedia
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| 14:46 | http://www.elinux.org/Pixter_Multimedia
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| 16:16 | <modster78> hi all
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| 17:01 | <jammcq> ogra: hey, after building a new kernel, what's the command to automatically update the grub config file ?
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| 17:02 | <vsx> highvolt1ge, little question, when i start nxclient under ltsp 4.1 he's arguing aboutn creating his directories, calling with HOME="/tmp/" && nxclient didnt helped
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| 17:02 | sorry highvolt1ge
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| 17:09 | <al> Separate tftp and nfs servers rootpath and rootserver get confused. nfsmount: need a path
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| 17:09 | Is there a different setting other than DHCP'S root-path for specifying the nfs root server?
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| 17:10 | The NFS requests seem to be going to the tftpserver. If I change next-server then the tftp requests go to the NFS server.
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| 19:07 | <al> Is there any place where I can gey ltsp3?
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| 19:43 | <monteslu_> hey guys, whatś the command to check the lts.conf from the client side ?
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| 20:52 | <LaserJock> anybody know how I can determine of my tftp server is working right
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| 20:52 | I'm getting- PXE-E32: TFTP open timeout
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| 21:20 | <ari_stress> morning
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| 21:28 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 21:50 | <jammcq> howdie kidz
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| 21:53 | <LaserJock> hi jammcq
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| 21:53 | <jammcq> hey LaserJock
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| 21:53 | how's that break from the ubuntu world going for you?
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| 22:09 | <LaserJock> heh
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| 22:09 | * LaserJock looks around | |
| 22:09 | <LaserJock> jammcq: I got a ClassmatePC dropped in my lap
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| 22:09 | jammcq: I'm presently trying to get it to load as a thin client from my *buntu laptop
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| 22:10 | <jammcq> hmm, that's pretty easy
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| 22:10 | I've done that
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| 22:10 | I had one for a while. I gave it to sbalneav to play with
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| 22:11 | <LaserJock> jammcq: yeah, except mine won't boot :(
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| 23:35 | <mystafa> hi to all!
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| 23:42 | <sbalneav> Hello
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| 23:42 | <mystafa> sbalneav hi
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