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Channel log from 23 January 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:34 | <erdinc> good morning aLL
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| 02:56 | <erdinc> hi ogra
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| 02:56 | <ogra> hi
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| 02:56 | <erdinc> how are u
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| 02:57 | <ogra> fine ... very busy, i'm in oslo at our development sprint ...
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| 02:58 | <erdinc> I see :)
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| 02:58 | all ubuntu devels joining it?
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| 03:19 | <wradyn> Has anyone had success installing LTSP on SuSE 10.1?
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| 03:22 | <ogra> erdinc, all employed ones, yes
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| 03:23 | <erdinc> as I know ubuntu has 60+ devel ?
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| 03:23 | <wradyn> Has anyone got LTSP working on SuSE 10.2
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| 03:24 | <ogra> only 16 of them are employees of canonical
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| 03:24 | wradyn, SuSE should support the old LTSP 4.2
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| 03:25 | <wradyn> I have tried to install that but there is loads of errors
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| 03:25 | <ogra> i'm not sure where the ltsp5 port stands as no SuSE dev seem to want to implement it yet
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| 03:27 | <erdinc> as know not implemented yet
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| 03:27 | <wradyn> I have noticed that. Anyway, I'll keep looking around . Cheers..
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| 03:29 | Thanks guys.
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| 03:29 | <ogra> i know some people are running 4.2 on SuSE ... so it should be possible to use it there ...
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| 03:31 | <erdinc> I'll finish 4.2 implementation on pardus soon if you think :)
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| 03:31 | <ogra> rather the 5.0 one :)
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| 03:31 | <wradyn> It's okay for now. I will install it on a Debian system for now and see how it goes.
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| 03:32 | <erdinc> yes 5.0 will be ready too after 4.2 :)
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| 03:33 | <ogra> erdinc, 4.2 is obsolete and wont be developed anymore (apart from bug/security fixes) do you really think it's worth putting time inot it ? (its way more work to implement it that to just start with 5.0)
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| 03:34 | <erdinc> but at least we should have a prototype for show
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| 03:35 | I got your point but when someone come there should be something working :)
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| 03:38 | <ogra> right ... but implementing 4.2 means you need to rebuild you whole system as a mini linux for the clients ... 5.0 means only using your existing packages ...
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| 03:38 | 4.2 is about 10x as much work ...
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| 04:41 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> good mornin'
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| 05:13 | <mhterres> morning guys
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| 05:13 | hi jammcq
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| 05:13 | jammcq, are you here ?
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| 05:59 | <SiCk> hi everyone/anyone i was just wondering if someone could give me a bit of advice, either where i'm going wrong or whatever... I've installed Edubuntu and everything seems to be configured OK, the Thin Client starts to boot, then gets to Compressing Linux... OK Booting the kernel, - Config: eth0 Hardware address xx:xx:xx mtu 1500 DHCP RARP and doesnt do anything after.. though does respond to keypresses... any ideas?
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| 06:01 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> SiCk: the boot is by PXE or ethx?
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| 06:01 | SiCk: by floppy
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| 06:01 | <ogra> SiCk, how do you boot the client ?
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| 06:01 | <SiCk> pxe
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| 06:01 | sorry
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| 06:01 | <ogra> hehm kaminski-ltsp-br beats me :)
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| 06:01 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> ogra: ;)
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| 06:02 | <cliebow> ??
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| 06:02 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> i think it can be the wrong boot image for the network card]
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| 06:02 | <ogra> SiCk, if you scroll up, do you see any errors ? (you shouldnt see any messages, usually usplash hides them, so that indicates an error)
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| 06:03 | do you see usplash at all (a picture with progressing bar ? )
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| 06:03 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> ogra: have the ltsp 5 bootsplash?
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| 06:04 | <ogra> kaminski-ltsp-br, edubuntu has it, yes ... ubuntu as well if you install the usplash theme package in the client chroot
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| 06:04 | dunno if the debian implementation uses it though
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| 06:04 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> ogra: ok ;)
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| 06:04 | <SiCk> ogra: yeah it starts showing the usplash, never progrresses though
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| 06:05 | i dont see any errors, the only things i see look pretty normal
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| 06:05 | <ogra> and then usplash goes away and you see white text on black ?
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| 06:05 | <SiCk> yep
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| 06:05 | <ogra> i.e. no ldm login ?
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| 06:05 | <SiCk> no, nothing
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| 06:05 | it is responding to keypresses though
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| 06:05 | <ogra> sounds suspicious like a nfs timeout or something ...
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| 06:05 | do you end up at a prompt ?
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| 06:06 | <SiCk> no, no prompt
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| 06:06 | <ogra> weird
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| 06:06 | <SiCk> i'm using a HP t5000 as a thin client if that's any help?
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| 06:07 | <ogra> i have to go for 1h now ... sorry ... be back in ~60min ....
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| 06:07 | <SiCk> no probs... look forward to hearing from you later.. haha
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| 06:07 | i'm at my wits end
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| 06:07 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> SiCk: if you were usin' debian, maybe i could help ;)
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| 06:08 | i don't know the edubuntu boot
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| 06:08 | <ogra> kaminski-ltsp-br, debian uses the ubuntu ltsp .... its the same apart from local device support ...
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| 06:08 | * ogra is now really gone | |
| 06:08 | <SiCk> dont say that, i've been through 2 flavours of ubuntu already
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| 06:08 | haha
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| 06:08 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> ogra: right....
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| 06:08 | SiCk: what's the last message you can see?
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| 06:09 | at the boot
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| 06:09 | <ogra> SiCk, remove quiet and splash from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default ... then you'll see more info
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| 06:09 | * ogra is now really *rally* gone | |
| 06:09 | <ogra> *really even
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| 06:09 | <SiCk> haha
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| 06:09 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> really really really
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| 06:10 | <SiCk> the last i see is IP-Config: eth0 hardware address xx:xx:xx mtu 1500 DCHP RARP
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| 06:11 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> SiCk: the PXE image is the correct to the thin client network card?
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| 06:13 | <SiCk> erm, i'm not totally sure, but it has to be if its getting this far right?
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| 06:13 | <cliebow> pxe needs a speific image?
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| 06:13 | <mhterres> hey guys, I have new information in my gdm problem
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| 06:13 | anybody wants to help me ?
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| 06:13 | <cliebow> marlon right?
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| 06:13 | give jammcq a chance to get a full head of steam 8~)
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| 06:14 | <mhterres> marlon ?
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| 06:14 | <cliebow> a pxe card should "just work" (except for two of mine giving me grief)
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| 06:15 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> SiCk: right... aminute
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| 06:15 | <cliebow> didnt jammcq refer to you as marlon..or am i screwing up again
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| 06:16 | <SiCk> haha okay
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| 06:16 | sorry for making things difficult
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| 06:16 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> SiCk: no prob
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| 06:17 | <mhterres> cliebow, marlon if mfdutra
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| 06:17 | hehehe
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| 06:17 | cliebow, I work with Marlon
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| 06:17 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> cliebow: right... the pxe "just work"... with the 'default' file on the pxelinux.cfg directory
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| 06:18 | <cliebow> except foor my two
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| 06:18 | 9~)
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| 06:18 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> SiCk: doesn't teh google help you?
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| 06:19 | <cliebow> SiCk:have you used ethereal to look the traffic over?
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| 06:19 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> cliebow: do you think the traffic may be the prob?
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| 06:19 | <SiCk> not one bit :(
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| 06:20 | google helped me as much as it could, got me at least booting off of pxe...
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| 06:20 | <cliebow> you can examine the packets to see what has happening
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| 06:21 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> right ;)
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| 06:21 | <SiCk> hmm good idea
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| 06:22 | gimme a min :)
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| 06:22 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> wireshark
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| 06:22 | <cliebow> i must say im not sure just what Is happening since i jumped in midstream..booking for school now so ill look in later
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| 06:22 | <SiCk> is there an apt-get for ethereal
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| 06:22 | ?
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| 06:22 | <mhterres> should be
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| 06:22 | looks for wireshark
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| 06:27 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> SiCk: have your server another station on boot?
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| 06:27 | a 'workin' boot'
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| 06:27 | <SiCk> i i can only find windows distros :(
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| 06:27 | god im slow today
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| 06:27 | what kaminski-ltsp-br ?
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| 06:27 | i dont understand
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| 06:28 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> SiCk: sorry for my english... lol
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| 06:28 | SiCk: another station with that the boot is OK
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| 06:29 | <SiCk> havetn actually tried another thin-cleint, if thats what you mean?
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| 06:30 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> SiCk: try another... the prob can be with the thin client model.... it's only a test
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| 06:31 | <SiCk> i cant type well at the moment either, i'm not seeing what im typing, bloody VNC to a home pc
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| 06:32 | i'll try another in a minute, need to run around and grab one
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| 06:43 | <SiCk> kaminski-ltsp-br: you there?
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| 06:43 | I get to Loading vmlinuz.... , Loading initrd.img..... then Ready.
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| 06:43 | and thats all
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| 06:43 | with the new client
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| 06:44 | before all that theres
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| 06:44 | trying to load: pxelinux.cfg/MAC
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| 06:44 | a few of those until it hits trying to load: pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 06:45 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> SiCk: hi
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| 06:45 | <SiCk> hey
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| 06:46 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> hm
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| 06:47 | <SiCk> just hit return a few times, its actually sitting at that message again
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| 06:47 | the IP-Config one
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| 06:47 | its just doing nothing when its ' booting the kernel. '
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| 06:49 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> SiCk: Uncompressing linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
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| 06:49 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> and nothing?
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| 06:49 | <SiCk> yep
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| 06:50 | then IP-Config under it
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| 06:50 | i do get the usplash for a couple of seconds before it hits this
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| 06:50 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> weird
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| 06:50 | <SiCk> very
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| 06:50 | i'd say more annoying than weird
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| 06:52 | we have loads of these sitting doing nothing.. its infuriating
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| 06:53 | the only thing it needs to do is boot and display a webpage in kiosk mode, any ideas?
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| 06:56 | <ogra> SiCk, do you have a dhcp server running apart from the one thats on the edubuntu server ?
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| 06:57 | <SiCk> yeah, but at the moment we have the server connected to the thin client directly to test
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| 06:57 | welcome back :)
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| 06:57 | <ogra> thanks :)
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| 06:57 | so you are sure there is no way another dhcp server could confuse the botin ?
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| 06:58 | <SiCk> no way at all
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| 06:58 | <ogra> *booting
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| 06:58 | hmm
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| 06:58 | <SiCk> we were having that problem with the pxe, as we have a RIS server running, but we made these 2 talk to each other instead
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| 06:58 | <ogra> physically ?
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| 06:58 | <SiCk> yep
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| 06:58 | <ogra> i.e. with a crossover cable or something like that
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| 06:58 | <SiCk> indeed
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| 06:59 | <ogra> ok
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| 06:59 | did the edubuntu install work properly ? no errors or something `
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| 06:59 | ?
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| 07:00 | <SiCk> nope, no trouble
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| 07:00 | <ogra> (and which release are you actually using ? )
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| 07:00 | <SiCk> the only thing i can think of is the image that the pxe is using is corrupted or wrong?
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| 07:01 | the latest edubuntu, downloaded last week
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| 07:01 | but im not sure how to go about changing the image.. or where it's located :S
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| 07:01 | <ogra> the release or the development version ?
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| 07:01 | <SiCk> i'm new to the whole ltsp scene
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| 07:01 | the release
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| 07:04 | <ogra> ok ... that should e edgy (6.10) then ...
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| 07:04 | s/e/be/
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| 07:05 | <SiCk> the only thing that's weird about these wee clients is that they're runing an odd processor
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| 07:05 | and yeah, edgy 6.10
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| 07:05 | <ogra> the image you get via tftp is located in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 for i386 systems ...
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| 07:05 | it's copied from /opt/ltsp/i386/boot
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| 07:06 | <SiCk> is there an image that's suitable for the client i have?
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| 07:06 | the hp t5000 ?
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| 07:06 | its only a little 400mhz thin client
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| 07:06 | 128meg ram
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| 07:07 | <mhterres> hey, I will change my question
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| 07:07 | anybody here is using LTSP with KDM ?
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| 07:07 | and using the server as a workstation ?
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| 07:07 | <ogra> SiCk, the image installed should be suitable for all clients
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| 07:07 | <SiCk> yeah.. thought so
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| 07:08 | <ogra> its compatible down to 486 systems ...
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| 07:10 | <SiCk> this thing is driving me insane :(
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| 07:10 | just want it to work *cry*
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| 07:10 | * SiCk breaks down | |
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| 07:16 | <SiCk> though this client does have linux built in
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| 07:16 | witha connection manager
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| 07:16 | with XDM, RDesktop and citrix
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| 07:17 | <mhterres> SiCk, what is the problem ?
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| 07:17 | SiCk, If you use PXE what is happening ?
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| 07:18 | <SiCk> uncompressing linux... OK
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| 07:18 | then nothing
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| 07:19 | <mhterres> and in the server, where it stops ?
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| 07:19 | can you see it in syslog ?
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| 07:19 | is it getting the IP via DHCP ?
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| 07:19 | <SiCk> yeah
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| 07:19 | does it log on the server too?
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| 07:19 | <mhterres> is it getting the image in tftp ?
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| 07:20 | <SiCk> when it pxe's in?
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| 07:20 | its getting the image yeah
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| 07:20 | i get the usplash etc
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| 07:20 | <mhterres> it is logged in syslog in the ltsp server
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| 07:20 | you can show us the last lines in syslog
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| 07:20 | <SiCk> 1 sec ill have a look
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| 07:22 | every few seconds its doing a DHCP OFFER
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| 07:22 | <ogra> SiCk, it logs on the server, but only after boot
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| 07:23 | (beyond the locally running DHCP indeed :))
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| 07:23 | <SiCk> and the disover
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| 07:23 | discover*
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| 07:23 | <ogra> right
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| 07:23 | but we already know that you have an IP ... and recieved the kernel and initramfs via ftfp
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| 07:23 | *tftp
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| 07:24 | <SiCk> indeed
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| 07:24 | its offering 10.5.19.100
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| 07:24 | which is last in the range i gave it
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| 07:24 | <ogra> so either the problem is in the initramfs or the nfs mount is failing
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| 07:24 | <SiCk> i gave it 10.5.19.1 - 100
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| 07:24 | <ogra> for the latter you should see an error anywhere in the backlog on the screen
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| 07:25 | did you switch off splash and quiet ?
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| 07:25 | you should see a lot more then ...
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| 07:25 | <SiCk> no, how do i do that again? sorry
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| 07:27 | <ogra> <ogra> SiCk, remove quiet and splash from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default ... then you'll see more info
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| 07:27 | * ogra pats copy'n paste | |
| 07:27 | <SiCk> haha
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| 07:27 | 1 sec
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| 07:28 | <SiCk> here goes nuffin
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| 07:28 | <ogra> like ?
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| 07:28 | you cant edit the file ? it doesnt boot ? your server died ?
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| 07:29 | sky is falling ?
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| 07:29 | <SiCk> oh, sorry, naw its just a bad saying
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| 07:29 | ummmm, everything is normal
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| 07:29 | by the looks of it
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| 07:29 | its finished at [17179578.340000] drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver
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| 07:30 | no errors that i saw
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| 07:31 | <SiCk> last thing it loaded was the mouse... im checking it without
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| 07:32 | without i get:
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| 07:32 | [17179577.704000] eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0xC5E1
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| 07:34 | <ogra> weird
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| 07:34 | there must be *something* somewhere
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| 07:35 | <SiCk> its still doing its famous DHCP Discover and Offer
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| 07:37 | back in an hour or so
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| 07:37 | thanks so far guys!
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| 07:38 | <mhterres> bye
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| 07:38 | ogra, do you know about some problem with KDM and LTSP ?
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| 07:39 | <ogra> mhterres, i'm here all the time and see you asking since three days :) i'D have answered already if i had an idea ;)
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| 07:39 | <mhterres> hehehehe, sorry
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| 07:39 | :-(
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| 07:40 | <erdinc> what kind problem
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| 07:40 | <ogra> in ubuntu we dont use XDMCP at all, so my knowledge of that is rather sparse
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| 07:41 | <erdinc> in pardus we use it :)
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| 07:41 | <mhterres> erdinc, if I logoff in a client, the screen in server goes blank and I need to press CTRL+ALT+F7 to return to X
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| 07:41 | it is very annoying
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| 07:41 | <ogra> mhterres, which distro ?
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| 07:41 | <erdinc> which kde ?
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| 07:41 | 3.5.5?
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| 07:42 | <mhterres> Ubuntu, but I`m using the ltsp 4.2, cause if we use 5, the keyboard does not work in X in client
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| 07:42 | 3.5.2
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| 07:42 | <ogra> mhterres, oh ?
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| 07:42 | <mhterres> dapper
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| 07:42 | <ogra> did you report that ?
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| 07:42 | <mhterres> no, I discover it yesterday
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| 07:43 | I read about something similar in debian implementation, and they have a solution, but I did not try it
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| 07:43 | <ogra> please report it, so i can dig into it ... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
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| 07:43 | (if you pick ltsp as the packagename it will automatically get into my queue)
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| 07:43 | <mhterres> erdinc, and if I use gdm, if I logoff in a thin client, the gdm parent is killed, and the first gdm client becames the parent, so nobody else can login
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| 07:44 | very odd
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| 07:44 | <erdinc> interesting
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| 07:45 | <ogra> mhterres, 4.2 will be obsolete very soon, focusing to get 5 working for you would probably be cleverer
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| 07:45 | if there is a fix anywhere already, i'll immediately add it to the dev version ...
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| 07:45 | <mhterres> I think so, but this keyboard problem is worst than the kdm problem
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| 07:47 | <mhterres> bug reported
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| 07:47 | <ogra> doesnt it work at all ?
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| 07:48 | ah, great
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| 07:48 | ten i'll handle it via LP
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| 07:48 | <mhterres> sometimes numeric characters work
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| 07:48 | and the console acts strange
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| 07:48 | I can't login
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| 07:48 | very strange
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| 07:49 | erdinc, do you have a similar scenario that is working
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| 07:49 | ?
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| 07:49 | <ogra> usb/ps2/AT ? which kind of plug ?
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| 07:49 | <erdinc> no I didnt
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| 07:49 | I tried usb and ps2
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| 07:49 | also kdm
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| 07:49 | <mhterres> ps2
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| 07:49 | usb don't work too
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| 07:50 | <ogra> sounds like a kernel prob with the input stack ...
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| 07:50 | or xorg ...
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| 07:50 | <mhterres> erdinc, the most interesting part of this is that it is working here in another network with edgy
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| 07:50 | <erdinc> usb very interesting
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| 07:50 | <mhterres> ogra: xorg
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| 07:51 | <ogra> mhterres, do you have an lts.conf ?
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| 07:51 | <mhterres> ogra: but the console is having a strange behaviour too
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| 07:51 | yep
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| 07:51 | a simple one
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| 07:51 | <ogra> could yu try without it ?
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| 07:51 | *you
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| 07:51 | <mhterres> in ltsp 5 ?
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| 07:51 | <ogra> yep
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| 07:51 | <mhterres> hmmm, I'll have to install it again
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| 07:51 | <ogra> ltsp5 doesnt need an lts.conf file
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| 07:51 | oh ok ...
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| 07:51 | <mhterres> Hmmm, so how can I set the specific things for clients ?
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| 07:52 | <ogra> the lts.conf in ltsp is only used to override autodetected values
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| 07:52 | s/ltsp/ltsp5/
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| 07:52 | <mhterres> but in case of a local paralel printer, how can I set it ?
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| 07:52 | <ogra> well, you use an lts.conf :) but by default it should autodetect everything ...
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| 07:52 | <mhterres> I have this case in this client
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| 07:52 | <ogra> (apart from keymap etc indeed)
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| 07:52 | <mhterres> Hmmm, ok
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| 07:52 | I'll reinstall the ltsp5
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| 07:53 | one moment, I'll make a backup of my ltsp 4.2 :-)
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| 07:53 | <erdinc> :)
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| 07:53 | <mhterres> ogra, ltsp 4.2 boot is much more faster
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| 07:54 | <ogra> right ... thats one drawback of ltsp5, we use default initramfs and services ... 4.2 has a lot of modified stuff
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| 07:54 | <mhterres> I know
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| 07:54 | <ogra> its a tradeoff to be able to use all the distros default packages
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| 07:55 | in ubuntu upstart will solve that completely in the future
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| 07:55 | mmm, sexy ....
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| 07:55 | http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/testtcm.png
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| 07:56 | <mhterres> ogra, I was waiting more from upstart
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| 07:56 | <ogra> there is no upstart yet ...
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| 07:56 | <ogra> all that is there is only a replacement for init
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| 07:56 | <ogra> the services all need to be switched before you really can see any benefit
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| 07:56 | <sep> ogra, is that a combined user and lts.conf admin tool ?
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| 07:57 | <mhterres> ogra, Edgy is using upstart
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| 07:57 | <ogra> sep, its for managing current connections
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| 07:57 | <mhterres> ogra, I understand now
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| 07:57 | <ogra> but limited to ldm logins atm
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| 07:57 | <sep> just wondering on the group thing.
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| 07:58 | <erdinc> ogra in ubuntu vlc has a static link to ffmpeg?
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| 07:58 | <ogra> erdinc, not that i know of
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| 07:58 | <erdinc> Im dealing with vlc now :)
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| 07:58 | anyway
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| 07:58 | <ogra> sep, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StudentControlPanelSpec it's defined in the spec
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| 07:59 | teachers wanted to be able to group the userlist
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| 07:59 | erdinc, err, sorry, i misread that as vnc
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| 07:59 | erdinc, for questions about vlc, ping crimsun in #ubuntu-devel, he maintains it
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| 08:00 | <erdinc> thanx :)
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| 08:01 | <mhterres> I'm installing it
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| 08:09 | <vanya> hello! any quick (or not so quick :) ) howto on nas on ltsp 4.2 ?
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| 08:14 | <mhterres> ogra, installed
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| 08:14 | I'm starting the client
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| 08:25 | without lts.conf the client goes direct to console
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| 08:25 | no X
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| 08:25 | now, no keyboard :-(
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| 08:25 | lunch time
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| 08:25 | see you
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| 08:26 | if you can take a look in that, I appreciate
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| 08:26 | <ogra> mhterres, do yu use edgy ?
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| 08:26 | or dapper ?
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| 08:26 | <mhterres> dapper
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| 08:26 | <ogra> dapper had a bug that made you switch consoles manually on slow net connections
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| 08:26 | try ctrl-alt-f7
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| 08:26 | there should be an X screen
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| 08:26 | i can tell you the fix for that ...
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| 08:27 | <mhterres> the X miss ?
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| 08:27 | without lts.conf ?
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| 08:27 | <ogra> you cant log in on console on a thin client, there are no user accounts and root is locked for security reasons
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| 08:27 | look if there is a login manager on console 7 now ...
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| 08:27 | without lts.conf, yes
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| 08:29 | <mhterres> fix for this ?
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| 08:29 | yep
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| 08:29 | I saw
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| 08:29 | let me delete the lts.conf
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| 08:29 | great
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| 08:29 | with CTRL+ALT+F7 works
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| 08:29 | how can I fix this ?
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| 08:29 | yes
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| 08:29 | great
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| 08:30 | how can I fix the CTRL+ALT+F7 bug ?
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| 08:30 | <ogra> one second
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| 08:30 | <mhterres> ok
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| 08:31 | <ogra> edit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client
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| 08:31 | find the line:
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| 08:31 | /etc/init.d/usplash start
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| 08:31 | change start to stop
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| 08:31 | reboot the client ....
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| 08:31 | done
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| 08:32 | err, in dapper its defaulted to stop ... change it to start ... sorry
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| 08:32 | <mhterres> Ok
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| 08:33 | I'll try
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| 08:33 | <jammcq> g'morning
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| 08:34 | <ogra> hey jammcq
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| 08:36 | <mhterres> hi
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| 08:36 | <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! I had to reinstall the edubuntu server due to a hd crash, all is going quite well, but I still have a problem: some client boot well, otros stop with a Busybox shell saying: "/bin/sh/: can't access tty; job control turned off", and waiting for a command. Any hint what could be the reason? thank you!
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| 08:38 | <erdinc> hey jammcq
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| 08:38 | <jammcq> hey
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| 08:39 | <mhterres> jammcq, ltsp 5 in dapper worked for me
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| 08:39 | now that ogra help me with a little bug
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| 08:39 | thanks guy
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| 08:39 | s
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| 08:39 | <jammcq> using LDM ?
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| 08:40 | <erdinc> ogra I export LDFLAGS with -lxvidcore, this vlc is crazy :)
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| 08:41 | jim did you get, I sent you a mail like a day ago I guess
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| 08:41 | <jammcq> erdinc: yeah, about an announcement?
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| 08:41 | <erdinc> yep
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| 08:41 | <jammcq> yep
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| 08:41 | <mhterres> jammcq, using default login manager
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| 08:41 | I guess gdm :-)
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| 08:41 | <jammcq> default is LDM
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| 08:41 | <mhterres> hmmmm
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| 08:41 | great
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| 08:42 | but ldm don't use ssh ?
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| 08:42 | <jammcq> yes, it uses ssh
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| 08:42 | <cliebow_> jammcq:dont suppose there are pxe version differences or anything?
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| 08:42 | <mhterres> but do I need ssh ?
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| 08:42 | :-)
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| 08:42 | <jammcq> cliebow_: well, there are some. some older machines have buggy PXE implementations
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| 08:43 | <ogra> mhterres, all features we develop in ubuntu are using ldm ... you can switch to gdm and xdmcp, but will loose functionallity
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| 08:43 | <jammcq> mhterres: well, I dunno, do you?
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| 08:43 | <mhterres> jammcq, hehehehe
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| 08:43 | ok, I'll use ldm
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| 08:43 | but if I use gdm can I boost my performance ?
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| 08:45 | I'll change my ltsp for edgy ltsp this afternoon
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| 08:45 | <cliebow_> like old intel cards?
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| 08:45 | <mhterres> great, It resolve my keyboard problems
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| 08:45 | <jammcq> cliebow_: old intel cards should be fine
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| 08:45 | <cliebow_> mhterres:just set aside 4.2
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| 08:45 | <mhterres> yep
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| 08:46 | <cliebow_> ill check over the configs..lord i wish thet'd move dhcp to linux and scrap winblows
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| 08:52 | <mhterres> how can I login in the console ???
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| 08:54 | <ogra> oyu need to create users ... or use an ldap client in the thin client env ...
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| 08:55 | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd
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| 08:55 | * SiCk waves | |
| 08:55 | <ogra> ^^^ will set a rootpw
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| 08:55 | <SiCk> the annoyance is back again
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| 08:56 | <cliebow_> Intel UNDI. PXE-2.0 (Build 067)
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| 08:58 | <mhterres> I'm very happy
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| 08:58 | :-D
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| 09:03 | question: if ltsp uses ldm, why it is not a required package ?
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| 09:07 | * erdinc bye aLL | |
| 09:07 | <erdinc> see you at night
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| 09:07 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 09:07 | <cliebow_> Scottie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:08 | <ogra> mhterres, it is a required package
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| 09:08 | by ltsp-client
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| 09:08 | <mhterres> no
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| 09:08 | <mhterres> it is recommended in edgy
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| 09:09 | I'm installing right now
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| 09:09 | <ogra> Depends: lsb-base, nbd-client, ldm | sdm-terminal | x-display-manager
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| 09:09 | thats the depends line of ltsp-client
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| 09:09 | <ogra> you wont see that anyway, since installing ltsp-client directly would break your server up to needing a reinstall
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| 09:10 | so ltsp-client isnt installable on normal systems
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| 09:10 | <mhterres> ltsp-server-standalone
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| 09:10 | <ogra> what about it ?
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| 09:10 | <mhterres> hmmm, I need the ltsp-client, ok
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| 09:10 | <ogra> no
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| 09:10 | you dont
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| 09:10 | ltsp-build-client needs it ...
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| 09:11 | (the script building your client env)
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| 09:11 | <mhterres> I understand
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| 09:12 | <ogra> ltsp-client has varoius initscripts that would break if not used on a thin client ...
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| 09:15 | <Panora200> hi all
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| 09:15 | <mhterres> hi
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| 09:15 | <Panora200> hi wonder what has happened to the contribs/ section in ltsp's homepage
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| 09:18 | *i wonder heeh
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| 09:20 | <jammcq> you can still get to the old home page
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| 09:21 | on the LTSP wiki, there's a link on the left side of the page
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| 09:21 | it says 'Old LTSP Homepage'
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| 09:42 | <mhterres> ogra, the sound configuration and usb configuration changed in ltsp 5 ? Or Do I need to use lts.conf to config this stuffs ?
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| 09:43 | <ogra> thats something you do with lts.conf ...
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| 09:43 | <mhterres> great
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| 09:44 | <ogra> add a default entry for sound ....
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| 09:44 | SOUND=True
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| 09:44 | <mhterres> just this ?
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| 09:44 | <ogra> and for local devices: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices
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| 09:44 | yep, just this under the [default] line
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| 09:45 | <mhterres> great
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| 09:52 | <irule_> hi
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| 09:54 | <irule_> hello
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| 10:00 | <mhterres> how can I set a different root server in dhcp ?
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| 10:01 | ltsp is getting root-server as local server, when it is not
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| 10:04 | how can I change it
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| 10:04 | ?
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| 10:07 | <irule_> option root-path "192.168.1.100:/opt/ltsp/i386";
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| 10:07 | could this be it?
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| 10:08 | <mhterres> no
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| 10:09 | it's getting the root server as localhost, so for examples it's getting
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| 10:09 | 192.168.1.1:192.168.1.100:/opt/ltsp/i386
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| 10:14 | <vanya> trying to setup local devices on clients. what is lbus and where can I get it on Gentoo?
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| 10:16 | <Panora200> jammcq, thanks checking..
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| 10:16 | <irule_> please read this, mhterres http://gentoo-wiki.com/LTSP_Configuration
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| 10:17 | <vanya> irule_, thanks
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| 10:17 | <irule_> you are welcome
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| 10:20 | <irule> !rdesktop
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| 10:20 | <ltspbot`> irule: Error: "rdesktop" is not a valid command.
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| 10:21 | <efra> Mornign everybody
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| 10:21 | <irule> huh? why do I get a grays screnn with an X cursor when trying out rdesktop?
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| 10:21 | 4.2u2
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| 10:27 | <mhterres> irule, my problem is another
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| 10:29 | <joaocep> hello people!
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| 10:29 | <irule> hi
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| 10:29 | <joaocep> i need a little help
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| 10:30 | i necessite configure's pc's in ltsp mode, but dont access my usb pendrive
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| 10:30 | i need a source of sources.list debian with ltsp-usb and ltsp-floppy
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| 10:30 | or packages
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| 10:33 | nobody help?
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| 10:35 | <mhterres> anybody can help me with the dhcp question ?
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| 10:36 | <sbalneav> mhterres: remove the ip address from the root path
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| 10:36 | <mhterres> I removed
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| 10:36 | so he assumed the server is local
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| 10:36 | <sbalneav> Have you restarted dhcpd?
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| 10:36 | <cliebow_> ogra: from a g4 running edgy id simply did ltsp-build-client and got a /opt/ltsp/powerpc: this seem kosher??
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| 10:36 | <mhterres> but my nfs should be mounted in another server, not the same of dhcp
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| 10:36 | this is the problem
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| 10:36 | <sbalneav> hm
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| 10:36 | Then I'm not sure.
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| 10:37 | <joaocep> hmmm powerpc.. hm
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| 10:37 | what a problem ?
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| 10:37 | <mhterres> it a feature from ltsp5 , cause it works in 4.2
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| 10:37 | hi sbalneav
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| 10:37 | :-)
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| 10:38 | <sbalneav> I don't think ltsp5 supports a different nfs server from the dhcp server yet.
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| 10:38 | Unless it's a different dhcp option that I'm not aware of.
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| 10:38 | <mhterres> ltsp 4.2 support it
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| 10:39 | <jammcq> it's GOT to
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| 10:39 | <sbalneav> ltsp5 != ltsp 4.2
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| 10:39 | <jammcq> that's a critical thing
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| 10:39 | <joaocep> ohhh, but a image of ltsp need a commom server of dhcp+bootp+ltsp
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| 10:39 | <mhterres> I tried to modify the initramfs.conf but not works
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| 10:39 | jammcq, I think so
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| 10:40 | <mhterres> sbalneav, are you coming to Brazil again ?
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| 10:40 | :-)
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| 10:40 | <ogra> mhterres, i'm not aware of that problem yet ...
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| 10:40 | but to be honest i havent tried with a separate nfs server yet
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| 10:40 | <mhterres> ogra: I need to use a differente nfs server, not the same of the dhcp
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| 10:41 | <ogra> cliebow_, you nfs mount /opt/ltsp in rw mode from the ltsp server to the client before you run ltsp-build-client
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| 10:41 | <joaocep> i'm brazilian
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| 10:41 | <ogra> after building and unmounting you run ltsp-update-kernels on the server
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| 10:41 | <mhterres> joaocep, I imagine, are you work for Correios ? :-)
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| 10:41 | <ogra> mhterres, yes, i see what you wrote above
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| 10:41 | <mhterres> hmm, ok, sorry
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| 10:41 | <ogra> nobody has reported that to me yet ...
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| 10:42 | and i wasnt aware there is a problem ... i'll try to fix it in feisty ...
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| 10:42 | (or at least reproduce it first)
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| 10:42 | <mhterres> ogra, where can I change to rootserver dont get the localhost server ?
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| 10:43 | <joaocep> no, i working in ULBRA Campus
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| 10:43 | <mhterres> joaocep, Canoas ?
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| 10:43 | <joaocep> canoas
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| 10:43 | <mhterres> nice
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| 10:43 | are u using ltsp in Ulbra ?
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| 10:43 | <joaocep> brazilian? speek portuguese?
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| 10:43 | msn?
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| 10:43 | <mhterres> yep
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| 10:43 | <ogra> mhterres, it should work with adding the ip to the root-server line ... if it doesnt its a bug that i dont know of yet (as i wrote in my last three lines)
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| 10:43 | <mhterres> mhterres@hotmail.com
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| 10:43 | there is no root-server line :-)
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| 10:43 | it is not an dhcp option
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| 10:44 | <cliebow_> k
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| 10:44 | <ogra> root-path i mean
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| 10:44 | sorry i'm very busy and shouldnt even be on irc
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| 10:44 | <mhterres> don work
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| 10:44 | <ogra> mhterres, it should work with adding the ip to the root-path line ... if it doesnt its a bug that i dont know of yet (as i wrote in my last three lines)
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| 10:45 | <mhterres> Any idea of how can I fix it ?
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| 10:45 | <ogra> no
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| 10:45 | <ogra> nobody has reported that to me yet ...
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| 10:45 | <ogra> and i wasnt aware there is a problem ... i'll try to fix it in feisty ...
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| 10:45 | <ogra> (or at least reproduce it first)
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| 10:45 | *sigh*
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| 10:47 | <cliebow_> ogra:cant jhust tar this one then..
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| 10:49 | <ogra> cliebow, sure
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| 10:49 | <cliebow_> sorry to bother you..
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| 10:59 | <mhterres> back to 4.2 :-(
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| 11:41 | <jernst> hello, I have a problem with my HP thinclient : it crashes the X server (on the thin client) when using opengl (glxgears, wine)
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| 12:00 | <jernst> Is it because of driver or video memory ?
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| 12:01 | <jammcq> jernst: what model is the HP ?
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| 12:02 | <jernst> t5125 (http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/12454-321959-89307-338927-89307-472257.html)
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| 12:04 | I have an older PC and it can run wine without crashing. (wine links to opengl libs and it crashes even if you don't actually use it on the HP)
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| 12:12 | <jerns1> jammcq: I was disconnected I think... It is a t5125 (http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/12454-321959-89307-338927-89307-472257.html)
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| 12:16 | <mhterres> almost done: now a final question
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| 12:16 | anybody knows is there some problem to run dosemu in a thin client ?
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| 12:16 | <Gadi> no problem
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| 12:16 | <mhterres> locally is working fine, but in the client is a problem
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| 12:16 | <Gadi> I have a client who uses it
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| 12:16 | <mhterres> "attempt to access private resource denied"
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| 12:17 | Gadi, any tips ?
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| 12:17 | <Gadi> actually runs a dos app off of a Novell Netware box over ncpfs
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| 12:17 | lol
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| 12:17 | and now can access it remotely
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| 12:17 | what a world
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| 12:17 | mhterres: hmm... dont think there was much to change from an LTSP point of view
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| 12:17 | <mhterres> hmm, in my case I need to use it localy
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| 12:17 | locally
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| 12:18 | <Gadi> other than if you use printing, you may need individual user conf files for printer
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| 12:18 | <mhterres> yes, I know
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| 12:18 | <jammcq> jerns1: have you added the settings mentioned on the LTSP wiki
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| 12:18 | <Gadi> locally? running on the client and not the server?
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| 12:19 | hmm... then, it should be even more like a fat client
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| 12:19 | but, it works if you push it back from the server, as well
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| 12:22 | <jerns1> jammcq: which ones ?
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| 12:22 | <jammcq> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Clients#T5125
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| 12:24 | <jerns1> jammcq: thanks I didn't find it before, because I was reading the muekow docs, I will try and I'll tell you if it works
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| 12:25 | <jammcq> jerns1: are you using LTSP-5 ?
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| 12:26 | <jernst> jammcq: yes I am. Why ?
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| 12:26 | <jammcq> that option may not work
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| 12:26 | but give it a try
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| 12:26 | ogra's not here right now to find out if it's supported
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| 12:27 | <jernst> jammcq: is there another way to force this option if it doesn't work ?
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| 12:37 | <mhterres> Gadi, no I didn't explain myselt correctly
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| 12:38 | I need to run the app in the server and in the thin clients
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| 12:38 | and the application is in the server HD
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| 12:39 | <g333k_work> Hi, I have configured all services in ltsp 4.2 but xdmcp still appears as not running, why?
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| 12:39 | <mhterres> Gadi, and the error was The error was 'BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)'.
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| 12:40 | g333k_work, what is happening ?
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| 12:41 | <g333k_work> mhterres, shouldnt appear all services enabled and running?
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| 12:41 | <mhterres> no
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| 12:42 | gdm something appear like not running
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| 12:42 | sometimes
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| 12:42 | :-)
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| 12:44 | <g333k_work> mhterres, I just see a X in the middle of the screen
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| 12:45 | <mhterres> hmmm
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| 12:45 | firewall maybe ?
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| 12:45 | <g333k_work> mhterres, noup
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| 12:45 | <mhterres> xdmcp is enabled ?
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| 12:46 | <g333k_work> mhterres, ltspadmin says that yes
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| 12:46 | <mhterres> hmm, o
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| 12:46 | k
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| 12:46 | have you tried to look what is happening in syslog ?
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| 12:48 | <g333k_work> mhterres, I run gdm manually
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| 12:49 | <mhterres> but when the client tries to connect you can see some info in server syslog
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| 12:49 | maybe there you can find the problem
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| 12:49 | <Gadi> g333k_work: netstat -anp|grep :177
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| 12:49 | on the server
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| 12:50 | that will tell you if gdm is listening
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| 12:50 | <mhterres> yes
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| 12:50 | <Gadi> mhterres: I don't understand the error
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| 12:50 | <g333k_work> Gadi, no results
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| 12:50 | <Gadi> then, it is not
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| 12:50 | go into a session, and enable xdmcp through the gui
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| 12:50 | <mhterres> Gadi, neither I do
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| 12:51 | <g333k_work> Gadi, how?
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| 12:51 | <mhterres> Gadi, locally in the server there is no problems, but this error appear when I'm trying to run in the client
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| 12:51 | <Gadi> mhterres: you get that on the client running dosemu on the server?
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| 12:51 | <mhterres> yes
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| 12:51 | <Gadi> g333k_work: do you use gnome?
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| 12:51 | mhterres: it may depend on the app
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| 12:51 | <g333k_work> Gadi, xfce
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| 12:51 | <mhterres> g333k_work, open /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and look for the [XDMCP] entry
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| 12:51 | <Gadi> g333k_work: xubuntu?
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| 12:52 | <mhterres> there you enable the XDMCP that must be Enabled=false
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| 12:52 | <Gadi> mhterres: there's a better way
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| 12:52 | <mhterres> Gadi, There is no app, just the Freedos
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| 12:52 | <g333k_work> mhterres, xdmcp is enabled there
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| 12:52 | <Gadi> because that wont survive an upgrade
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| 12:52 | <mhterres> Gadi, off course :-)
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| 12:52 | <Gadi> mhterres: thats weird
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| 12:52 | <g333k_work> Gadi, well ubuntu and I installed the xfce pkgs manually
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| 12:52 | <mhterres> Gadi, I know
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| 12:52 | <Gadi> actually, I do remember for my dos app, I needed real dos
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| 12:52 | not freedos
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| 12:52 | but, that was the app I was running
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| 12:53 | g333k_work: well, you can run: gdmsetup from a terminal window
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| 12:53 | or: gksudo gdmsetup
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| 12:53 | or: System > Administration > Login
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| 12:53 | if you have that in the menu
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| 12:54 | <g333k_work> Gadi, then?
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| 12:54 | <Gadi> go to Remote tab
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| 12:54 | and change to: "Same as Local"
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| 12:54 | then, close
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| 12:54 | <mhterres> Gadi, new information
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| 12:54 | <Gadi> then, logout
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| 12:54 | <mhterres> dosemu is running, but I need xdosemu (dosemu -x)
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| 12:55 | <Gadi> 1 sec
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| 12:55 | brb
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| 12:58 | <Gadi> mhterres: yeah, I think I remember something like that - like the Ubuntu package for xdosemu was messed up, or it was made without x support....
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| 12:58 | * Gadi remembers using a breezy package on dapper | |
| 12:58 | <Gadi> or some such
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| 12:58 | it was a while ago
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| 12:59 | <mhterres> Gadi, but if don`t have the X support, would not run in server too
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| 12:59 | <Gadi> ah, true
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| 12:59 | so, you can run dosemu on the client but not xdosemu?
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| 12:59 | is that the issue?
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| 13:00 | <mhterres> Gadi, yep, because the app uses some characters that in terminal looks ugly
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| 13:01 | <BilboFett> greetings
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| 13:02 | where can I read the startup log for Fedora?
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| 13:04 | <Gadi> mhterres: do you have this in dosemu.conf: $_X_mitshm = (off)
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| 13:04 | <mhterres> and ?
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| 13:04 | <g333k_work> Gadi, nothing, I have the same problem
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| 13:05 | <Gadi> g333k_work: is anyone logged in?
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| 13:05 | <BilboFett> G A D I @!!!!!!!!
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| 13:05 | <g333k_work> Gadi, the server
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| 13:05 | <Gadi> yeah
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| 13:05 | is anyone on the server?
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| 13:05 | BilboFett: hey. try: dmesg
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| 13:05 | <g333k_work> Gadi, nobody can log to the server because they stop when logging the X
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| 13:06 | <Gadi> g333k_work: great: do this: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
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| 13:06 | er, sudo
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| 13:06 | sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
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| 13:06 | <cliebow_> g33k_work:you getting grasy screen with x?
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| 13:06 | <g333k_work> Gadi, I did taht
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| 13:06 | <Gadi> mhterres: is that line in your dosemu.conf?
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| 13:06 | <g333k_work> cliebow_, yep
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| 13:06 | <Gadi> g333k_work: after making the change in the gui?
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| 13:07 | <g333k_work> Gadi, yep... I'm rebooting the server
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| 13:07 | <Gadi> ok
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| 13:07 | <mhterres> Gadi, I'll take a look
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| 13:07 | <BilboFett> dmesg gadi
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| 13:07 | hmmm
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| 13:07 | <Gadi> BilboFett: no - on the server
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| 13:07 | dmesg
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| 13:07 | at a terminal
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| 13:09 | <cliebow_> g333k_work:be sure in lts.conf you arepointing to a server with gdm running..oops this is ubunti?
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| 13:09 | <g333k_work> cliebow_, it is working now... omg!
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| 13:10 | <cliebow_> of course it iseth
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| 13:10 | <g333k_work> Gadi, I configured autologin in gdm.conf but it seems to omitting changes in gdm.conf right?
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| 13:10 | <BilboFett> Gadi, heh :)
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| 13:14 | <mhterres> Gadi, $_X_mitshm = (off)
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| 13:14 | is there
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| 13:16 | <BilboFett> Gadi do I need to run dmesg from the server to see what happend at bootup on the server itself?
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| 13:16 | <g333k_work> Can somebody help me to make gdm.conf apply my changes?
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| 13:23 | <mhterres> g333k_work, gdm continues not listen in 177 ?
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| 13:30 | <dan__t> How do you guys deal with hostname to IP mappings for clients?
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| 13:30 | bind mixed in with some dhcpd hackery, or hosts, or what?
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| 13:34 | Is there a command around that will show me which user is logged into which X display?
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| 13:35 | or, rather, which usernames are connected on which displays as X clients.
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| 13:38 | <g333k_work> mhterres, I got this ouput: udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:177 0.0.0.0:* 5223/gdm
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| 13:40 | <mhterres> correct
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| 13:41 | <g333k_work> mhterres, so why is it not applying my changes in gdm.conf ?
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| 13:41 | <mhterres> what changes ?
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| 13:41 | <g333k_work> mhterres, I edited gdm.conf to enable autologin
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| 13:41 | <mhterres> hmmmmmm
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| 13:42 | Now the remote login is working /
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| 13:42 | ?
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| 13:42 | <g333k_work> mhterres, but gmd acts like if I dindt do nothing
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| 13:42 | <mhterres> AutomaticLoginEnable=true in gdm.conf ?
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| 13:44 | <g333k_work> mhterres, yep
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| 13:45 | [daemon]
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| 13:45 | AutomaticLoginEnable=true
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| 13:45 | AutomaticLogin=/usr/bin/autologin.sh|
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| 13:45 | TimedLoginEnable=true
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| 13:45 | TimedLogin=/usr/bin/autologin.sh|
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| 13:45 | TimedLoginDelay=5
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| 13:45 | [security]
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| 13:46 | AllowRemoteAutoLogin=true
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| 13:47 | <PaSurf> I am running debian and have looked at the packages offered through aptitude. There are lots. Which would best be suited for a network of say 50 machines?
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| 13:48 | <dan__t> Which ones do you need?
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| 13:49 | <PaSurf> dan_t: yes. There are ltsp-x-server with different options. We are just starting out, but want to get the correct one...
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| 13:50 | we dont need sound.... are looking at running open office and other applications... Possibly with a ubuntu desktop
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| 13:50 | <dan__t> Ok, then install them :)
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| 13:51 | I don't quite understand your question I don't think. You'r asking basically which applications should be installed on your machine, no?
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| 13:51 | <g333k_work> Oh my god everything is a mess here!!! now when I do gdm restart my server freezes in a black screen
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| 13:51 | damm!
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| 13:52 | <PaSurf> ok, so there are packages like ltsp.x.xserver-p9000 and mach64 mono, etc... w32... what do these packages mean.. fbdev...
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| 13:52 | <dan__t> erm, they're essentially tools that ltsp uses to boot a client machine
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| 13:52 | <PaSurf> which packages for ltsp are necessary for a basic install, or do I need to install a single package then add the ones based on need? Is there a "mother" package?
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| 13:53 | <dan__t> until the point where it can connect to the server via x
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| 13:54 | <PaSurf> do you have a source for the download where I can get these packages for debian?
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| 13:54 | right now they are showing up as virtual packages...
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| 13:54 | <dan__t> what's that
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| 13:55 | <PaSurf> in debian there are apt sources where you point your machine at a location. You get an idea of what packages the server on the other end has, and when you need a specific package you can down load it from that machine
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| 13:56 | basically I get my security updates from one place, and general packages like mysql and apache2 from another...
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| 13:56 | sometimes certain sites (sources) offer packages specifically for debian. If I can connect to the site I can us aptitude to install the packages...
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| 14:02 | <cliebow_> dan__t:i have a command you can use to see who is on what ws
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| 14:02 | <cliebow_> as robbed bodily from Teachertool
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| 14:05 | <dan__t> heheh
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| 14:07 | <cliebow_> leem see...netstat -t -e|grep X11|sed -e ..hell i cant ype that..wait a sec
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| 14:08 | <dan__t> heh ok.
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| 14:12 | <cliebow_> netstat -t -e | grep x11 | sed -e 's/ \+/ /g' -e 's/:/ /g'"
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| 14:12 | last quote is bad
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| 14:13 | in ubuntu there is a kludge errr "fix"
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| 14:15 | <mathesis> i have problem with sicn out limit in monitor
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| 14:15 | the monitor is syncmaster 551v samsung
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| 14:15 | howto config the sync the montitor 551v?
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| 14:17 | <dan__t> Thanks, cliebow.
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| 14:17 | I'll look into sorting.
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| 14:19 | <sbalneav> mathesis: What version of LTSP are you using?
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| 14:19 | <dan__t> And how are you guys assiging hostnames to IPs to clients and such?
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| 14:19 | Which method is preferred.
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| 14:20 | <sbalneav> either /etc/hosts or named works fine.
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| 14:20 | <dan__t> ok.
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| 14:20 | <g333k_work> Can somebody help me to make gdm.conf apply my changes?
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| 14:20 | <dan__t> Then it's just as much as assigning IPs via DHCP based on mac address, from there on out, right?
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| 14:21 | <dan__t> I think I need to start putting vtys on client machines so I can get info like IP, MAC, etc etc.
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| 14:23 | <sbalneav> g333k_work: What changes?
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| 14:25 | dan__t: You still need dhcpd to assign the ip address to the machine.
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| 14:25 | <dan__t> Yeah.
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| 14:25 | That's what I'm saying.
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| 14:25 | <sbalneav> g333k_work: hello?
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| 14:27 | <g333k_work> sbalneav, I'm setting up autologin feature
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| 14:28 | sbalneav, I edited gdm.conf like that :
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| 14:28 | [daemon]
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| 14:28 | AutomaticLoginEnable=true
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| 14:28 | AutomaticLogin=/usr/bin/autologin.sh|
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| 14:28 | TimedLoginEnable=true
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| 14:28 | TimedLogin=/usr/bin/autologin.sh|
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| 14:28 | TimedLoginDelay=5
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| 14:28 | [security]
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| 14:28 | AllowRemoteAutoLogin=true
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| 14:28 | <cliebow_> dan__t:why dont you just ssh in once they are running?
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| 14:29 | <dan__t> Because I don't know a clients IP :)
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| 14:30 | <cliebow_> hosts should compare ip and hostname..i have like library 1 hamilton3 littlegto
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| 14:32 | <BilboFett> hello
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| 14:33 | <dan__t> Hi.
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| 14:33 | <sbalneav> g333k_work: So, have you restarted gdm?
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| 14:33 | What OS are you on?
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| 14:34 | <BilboFett> well I guess my district wants to do K12LTSP on something other than Fedora now
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| 14:34 | <g333k_work> sbalneav, yep
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| 14:34 | sbalneav, ubuntu + xfce
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| 14:34 | sbalneav, ltsp 4.2
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| 14:35 | <sbalneav> What file did you add it to?
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| 14:35 | <cliebow_> k12ltsp on ubuntu
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| 14:36 | <BilboFett> cliebow, thats what you recommend?
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| 14:36 | because they were looking at ubuntu
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| 14:36 | <sbalneav> g333k_work: What file did you add these commands to?
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| 14:36 | <cliebow_> BilboFett:not sure my recommend means much..but i LOVe ubuntu
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| 14:37 | <sbalneav> BilboFett: Edubuntu would be what you're looking for, but out of curiousity, why do they NOT want fedora?
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| 14:37 | <BilboFett> does it offer all the same things that you get in Fedora, childsplay, tuxmath, all that kind of stuff?
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| 14:37 | sbalneav, they say Fedora is getting way too bloated
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| 14:37 | <g333k_work> sbalneav, I add a file to /usr/bin/autologin.sh
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| 14:38 | sbalneav, this file contains:
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| 14:38 | #!/bin/bash
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| 14:38 | HOSTNAME=`echo ${DISPLAY} | cut -f1 -d: | awk -F . {' print $1 '}`
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| 14:38 | echo $HOSTNAME
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| 14:38 | exit 0
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| 14:39 | sbalneav, I followed the same procedure to my old ltsp server and it worked well, I dont know why I'm having problems now
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| 14:39 | <BilboFett> no comment brother sbalneav?
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| 14:39 | <sbalneav> g333k_work: you need to add those conf instructions to /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
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| 14:40 | BilboFett: No, I just wondered why they wanted to switch from Fedora to Ubuntu.
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| 14:40 | However, "too bloated" seems like a bad reason.
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| 14:40 | <g333k_work> sbalneav, and leave gdm.conf like ltspadmin left? or to both files?
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| 14:40 | <sbalneav> Unless the school division only has 2 gig disks :)
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| 14:41 | <BilboFett> "although Fedora is the most popular, it is also the most bloated" to quote
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| 14:42 | I think he means as far as too many processes, too many dependencies, a growing over-complexity
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| 14:42 | <g333k_work> sbalneav, it works now, thanks buddy
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| 14:47 | <sbalneav> BilboFett: Certainly, I like the debian based distros, and Ubuntu specifically.
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| 14:47 | But for me, the issue wasn't bloat so much as ease of package management.
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| 14:48 | the apt package manager seems, to me at least, do a much better job of managing dependencies, and resolving them, than rpm did.
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| 14:57 | <mathesis> sbalneav: ltsp4.2
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| 14:59 | <sbalneav> mathesis: You worked on this yesterday, right? What did you try?
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| 15:11 | <mathesis> sbalneav: i hava a server ltsp4.2 with 2 thin clients at home
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| 15:12 | the client 1 ist working goo
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| 15:12 | <mathesis> the client 2 had problem with monitor
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| 15:12 | sycn out limit
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| 15:12 | only with monitor 15 inch
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| 15:13 | the 2 thin/client work good with the monitor 17 inch
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| 15:13 | <sbalneav> What have you put for the "X_HORZSYNC" and X_VERTREFRESH values in lts.conf?
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| 15:13 | <mathesis> yes i do
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| 15:13 | wait
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| 15:14 | check my lts.conf
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| 15:14 | http://pastebin.ca/325952
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| 15:14 | ws252
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| 15:16 | <sbalneav> That's way too low for the verical refresh
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| 15:16 | You've only got 30-54
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| 15:16 | that's not even 60hz
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| 15:16 | <mathesis> yes
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| 15:16 | <sbalneav> try 30-75
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| 15:17 | <mathesis> vert or horz
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| 15:18 | <sbalneav> ummm
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| 15:18 | I said "vertical"
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| 15:18 | so that would be it.
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| 15:18 | <mathesis> and horizontal?/
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| 15:19 | <mathesis> in the manual its
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| 15:19 | <sbalneav> I didn't say anything about horizontal, so you don't need to touch it.
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| 15:21 | <mathesis> Synchronization horizontal 30 khz to 54 khz automatically and Vertical 50 hz to 120 hz automatically Max. Resolution 1024x768 , Video dot rate 65 mhz
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| 15:21 | <mathesis> horizontal sync positive/negative
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| 15:21 | <sbalneav> From your paste
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| 15:21 | <mathesis> vertical sync positive/negative
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| 15:22 | its the gui of the monitor
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| 15:22 | <sbalneav> X_VERTSYNC = 30-54 X_HORIZSYNC = 50-120
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| 15:22 | <sbalneav> Now there's several problems here
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| 15:23 | <mathesis> yes ido
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| 15:23 | <sbalneav> 1) If what you typed for the manual is correct, them you've reversed the settings.
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| 15:23 | <mathesis> #
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| 15:23 | X_VERTSYNC = 30-54
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| 15:23 | # X_HORIZSYNC = 50-120
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| 15:23 | its fine
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| 15:23 | <sbalneav> 2) it's not X_HORIZSYNC it's X_HORZSYNC
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| 15:24 | <sbalneav> So, according to what you typed from the manual, you need:
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| 15:24 | X_HORZSYNC 30-54
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| 15:24 | <mathesis> ok
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| 15:24 | <sbalneav> X_VERTREFRESH = 50-120
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| 15:24 | sorry, X_HORZSYNC = 30-54
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| 15:36 | <mathesis> sbalneav: sync out limit
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| 15:38 | <sbalneav> paste your lts.conf file please
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| 15:42 | <mathesis> oks
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| 15:45 | <mathesis> http://pastebin.ca/326127 sbalneav
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| 15:45 | its problem only the monitors 15 inches
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| 15:46 | with the 17 inch workin fine the clients
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| 15:46 | <sbalneav> yes, you've said that already.
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| 15:46 | Try it at a lower resolution.
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| 15:46 | Add X_MODE_0 = 800x600
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| 15:47 | oh for pete's sake
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| 15:47 | <mathesis> X_MODE_0 = 800x600
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| 15:47 | <sbalneav> Did you read what I pasted?
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| 15:47 | You didn't, did you?
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| 15:48 | Oh, wait that was the old one that was wrong
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| 15:48 | <mathesis> the line X_MODE_0 = 800x600 its fine the line
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| 15:48 | <sbalneav> never mind, my bad.
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| 15:48 | right.
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| 15:48 | <mathesis> its the client w252
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| 15:48 | ws252
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| 15:48 | <sbalneav> I know
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| 15:49 | set X_MODE_0 = 800x600
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| 15:49 | see if it will come up on that
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| 15:49 | <mathesis> http://pastebin.ca/326127
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| 15:49 | <sbalneav> so it doesn't come up on 800x600
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| 15:50 | <mathesis> in ws252
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| 15:50 | <sbalneav> remove the X_MODE_0 line.
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| 15:50 | see if it will come up in 1024 by 768 then.
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| 15:51 | <mathesis> oks
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| 15:51 | remove X_MODE_0 =800x600
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| 15:51 | ?
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| 15:52 | <sbalneav> yes
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| 15:56 | <mathesis> sbalneav: igual
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| 15:57 | sync out limit
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| 15:58 | http://pastebin.ca/326147
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| 16:00 | <mathesis> the proble i when try Xorg in the thin-client
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| 16:00 | the problem i when try Xorg in the thin-client
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| 16:01 | <sbalneav> ok, well, try the solutions on the following page:
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| 16:02 | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ModeLinesForOldMonitors
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| 16:02 | comment out the X_HORZSYNC and X_VERTREFRESH lines.
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| 19:46 | <chupacabra> http://www.stateoftheuniondrinkinggame.com/
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| 21:22 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 22:45 | <chupacabra> yo
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