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Channel log from 1 March 2007 (all times are UTC)
| 00:28 | <mathesis> vagrantc: instale ltsp 4.2 en ubuntu edgy y todo perfecto
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| 00:28 | debian me da problemas ltsp
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| 00:29 | <vagrantc> lo siento ...
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| 00:30 | <mathesis> vagrantc: estoy pensando en migrar a ltsp5 con debian etch
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| 00:31 | <vagrantc> mathesis: que problemas tiene con ltsp y debian etch ?
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| 00:32 | <mathesis> ltsp 4.2 nfs and tftp en debian etch
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| 00:32 | cuando tienes tiempo para ayudarme a configurar ltsp5 en debian etch?
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| 00:33 | <vagrantc> no se. no mucho ... quisas a domingo o sabado en la noche
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| 00:33 | <mathesis> sabado en la noche
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| 00:33 | ok
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| 00:34 | vagrantc: necesito un counter time para ltsp5
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| 00:34 | <vagrantc> pero, tiene otro proyectos quiero tarbahar ...
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| 00:35 | <mathesis> you have busy sunday?
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| 00:36 | <vagrantc> nothing specific ... i might actually work on new ltsp packages for debian, there are a couple remaining bugs i'd like to fix.
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| 00:37 | i've also started playing with debian-live's network boot ... its very cool.
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| 00:38 | <mathesis> debian-live ltsp5?
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| 00:39 | <vagrantc> debian-live can be used as an alternative to ltsp
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| 00:50 | <astroboy> vagrantc: speaking of bugs .. I'm still getting msgs from ltsp-build-client that various mirrors are corrupt due to "E: Couldn't find these debs: locales
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| 00:50 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 00:50 | ".
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| 00:51 | What is debian-live ?
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| 00:51 | <vagrantc> and i'm still clueless
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| 00:51 | i don't tend to get those kinds of errors ...
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| 00:51 | <astroboy> It's not personal ..
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| 00:51 | <vagrantc> all i can say is "it works for me" which i know isn't particularly helpful ... i'm perplexed that you would continue to get those errors ...
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| 00:52 | <astroboy> It seems to be a consistent error across at least five NZ, Aus, & US mirrors ..
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| 00:52 | <vagrantc> debian-live was originally started to make live CDs based on debian (derived from ubuntu live cd code), but has been extended to also support network boot
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| 00:53 | astroboy: and you've removed /opt/ltsp after each time ?
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| 00:53 | <astroboy> Umm .. no
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| 00:53 | <vagrantc> you said you did the other day, after i said to do that :P
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| 00:53 | <astroboy> Hmm ..
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| 00:54 | Right now, I can't remember what I did ..
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| 00:55 | <vagrantc> at any rate .. removing the /opt/ltsp/* directories usually helped me in the rare cases where i got those kinds of problems
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| 00:55 | <astroboy> I'll try that. 'rm /opt/ltsp*' and ltsp-build-client ..
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| 00:56 | <vagrantc> astroboy: well, that will also remove your ltsp-4.2 installs , if you have them ...
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| 00:56 | astroboy: all you need to do is "rm -rf /opt/ltsp/*"
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| 00:57 | though if you don't care about the other ltsp installs, that's fine too ... just didn't want you obliterating anything needlessly
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| 00:57 | <astroboy> At the mo I've got *both* ltsp-4.2 & ltsp versions. Your'e right - it's confusing the issue.
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| 00:58 | <vagrantc> as long as they're in separate directories, it shouldn't be a problem
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| 01:07 | <astroboy> I have a lot of doc's refusing to delete as "Read-only fs" but no /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf .. but I do have one for ltsp-4.2
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| 01:07 | .. so I'll run ltsp-build-client again
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| 01:08 | <vagrantc> you only create an lts.conf if you need it in ltsp5
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| 01:08 | i.e. if you need to change the default autodetected settings
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| 01:08 | <astroboy> It's an *option* ? That's a good idea.
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| 01:08 | Cool ..
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| 01:17 | I hate to be a downer, but it looks like this ..
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| 01:17 | NOTE: adding default dist and components to security mirror:
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| 01:17 | http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
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| 01:17 | /usr/sbin/debootstrap: line 328: /opt/ltsp/i386/debootstrap/debootstrap.log: Read-only file system
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| 01:17 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 01:17 | * vagrantc suspects this has nothing to do with ltsp | |
| 01:19 | <vagrantc> astroboy: so ... is /opt/ltsp/i386 a read-only filesystem?
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| 01:22 | <astroboy> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2007-03-01 19:55 ltsp
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| 01:22 | <vagrantc> touch /opt/ltsp/foo
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| 01:23 | as root ...
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| 01:23 | <astroboy> C'est vrai .. touch: cannot touch `/opt/ltsp/foo': Read-only file system
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| 01:23 | Hrm ..
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| 01:24 | <vagrantc> you maybe have filesystem or hardware errors and linux decided best not attempt to write anything anymore
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| 01:24 | is /opt/ltsp on it's own partition, or the same as / ?
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| 01:25 | <astroboy> Yeah .. I got a lot of strange messages along those lines after < rm -rf /opt/ltsp/* > .. I don't like forcing things.
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| 01:26 | opt is on /
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| 01:27 | Should I change permissions on ltsp .. ?
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| 01:28 | It's a new Etch install & I'm just finding my around the system.
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| 01:29 | <vagrantc> you have some serious problems- quite possibly a failing hard drive, or if you're lucky, just a freak corrupted filesystem.
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| 01:34 | <astroboy> I might try rebooting .. if I don't get in, I'll reinstall.
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| 01:34 | vim /etc/apt/sources.list
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| 01:34 | Error detected while processing /usr/share/vim/vim70/debian.vim:
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| 01:34 | line 55:
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| 01:34 | E483: Can't get temp file name
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| 01:34 | .. and so on.
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| 01:35 | It's now a recurring error .. previously did not happen. There are worse things ..
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| 01:35 | Tomorrow .. I'll sleep on it.
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| 01:44 | No Vim ..
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| 01:45 | <vagrantc> astroboy: powerbutton, then sleep, eh? :)
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| 01:47 | <astroboy> Shortly .. I'll try getting some use out of the net while I'm up.
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| 01:48 | <vagrantc> astroboy: i guess, i'm just saying that because continuing to run in that state could cause hardware damage ...
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| 01:49 | <astroboy> I'm not getting any strange noises from the box. OTOH, / is on the oldest drive ..
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| 01:49 | Cheers.
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| 01:58 | <`Kiliko> How can i get my usb stick working? i have install ltspfsd on my server and
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| 01:58 | How can i get my usb stick working? i have install ltspfs on my server and __ltspfsd__ on the client
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| 02:05 | <sepski> have you done all of these ? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/LocalDeviceLtspfs or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices
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| 02:45 | <astroboy> Heh, heh .. I'm back ..
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| 02:47 | I wiped out 'etc' in /opt/ltsp/i386 ..
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| 02:48 | .. but that's what vagrantc wanted ..
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| 02:53 | I'm running ltsp-build-client
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| 02:58 | .. so far its working and seems to be retrieving a lot of base files
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| 02:59 | .. such as adduser, base-passwd, bash .. alphabetical
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| 03:02 | <`Kiliko> sepski, Yes i have dont it, but it wont showup for me. there must be somting more todo to get it working.
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| 03:16 | <astroboy> .. huge number of libs ..
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| 03:20 | <astroboy> Hola, Mol0ToV .. !
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| 03:21 | <MoL0ToV> hola astroboy
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| 03:21 | ?
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| 03:21 | :)
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| 03:21 | <astroboy> You've missed all the fun ..
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| 03:21 | <MoL0ToV> whats appening?
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| 03:21 | :)
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| 03:23 | <astroboy> My system seems to be rebuilding itself after 'rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386*' .. at one stage I thought I'd have to reinstall
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| 03:24 | I'm running 'ltsp-build-client' & its retrieving & validating base pkgs .. at one stage before reboot I had lost vim [holds breath] ..
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| 03:29 | <astroboy> Aaaaargh .. [again] .. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times.
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| 03:29 | I
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| 03:30 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 03:30 | Good night folks.
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| 03:32 | <MoL0ToV> :)
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| 03:32 | here is 10:29am
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| 03:32 | lool
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| 03:32 | :)
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| 03:34 | someone has experience with etherboot?
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| 03:34 | i have a problem, tracing the net, a udp dhcp request e reply are sent and received
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| 03:35 | but etherboot still print "No IP address"
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| 05:15 | * kaminski-away is back | |
| 05:15 | kaminski-away is now known as kaminski-ltsp-br | |
| 05:15 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> hola
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| 06:41 | <MoL0ToV> boys, someone know if exist a specific chan for ethereal?
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| 06:41 | etherboot, sorry
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| 06:56 | <osl> hello, i have 3 ltsp servers, but two of them are not running gdm on remote clients!, both gdm and kdm tried, and listinig to port 177, im running debian etch on all of them, any idea how to debug this?
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| 07:00 | <osl> im getting Xlib: connection to "192.168.0.88:1.0" refused by server, Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key in /var/log/kdm.log
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| 07:02 | and im using X load balancing
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| 07:06 | <osl> please ...
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| 07:07 | <a5benwillis> osl
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| 07:08 | <osl> i dont have xhost on the client to do something like xhost + or similar
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| 07:08 | yes a5benwillis
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| 07:08 | <a5benwillis> I dontknow anything about your error but I wanted to tell you to stick around. Its still early. Someone will see your question and have some ideas.
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| 07:08 | <osl> :) thank you a5benwillis :) i hope ill be able to
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| 07:09 | * osl has to do a demonstration ... pretty soon, sorry for being pushy | |
| 07:11 | <a5benwillis> does your client exist in /etc/X).hosts?
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| 07:11 | does your client exist in /etc/X0.hosts
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| 07:13 | <osl> um
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| 07:13 | one minute
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| 07:13 | <a5benwillis> may not exist in your distro
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| 07:13 | <osl> on which machine? the master server?
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| 07:13 | <a5benwillis> yes
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| 07:13 | <osl> or all of them
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| 07:14 | dont have such a file
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| 07:14 | <a5benwillis> ok
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| 07:16 | <sepski> osl, with debian etch, and ltsp muekow you should run ldm on the thinclients
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| 07:16 | not gdm or kdm
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| 07:16 | <osl> hmmm
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| 07:16 | <sepski> osl, did you make the ltsp chroot using the debian etch ltsp packages ?
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| 07:17 | <sepski> if yes, you can install ldm inside the chroot.
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| 07:17 | <ogra_> it will be installed
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| 07:17 | <erdinc> hi everyone
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| 07:17 | <osl> sepski, no, i used the 4.2 packages from ltsp.org
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| 07:17 | <ogra_> if he used ltsp-build-client
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| 07:17 | thats different then
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| 07:17 | <sepski> osl, oh then you can forget everything i said
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| 07:18 | osl, the ltsp in etch is based on ltsp5
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| 07:18 | <a5benwillis> osl: I tried to help until the others got here. Itold you they would know what to do :-)
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| 07:18 | <osl> hehe :) thanks a5benwillis
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| 07:48 | <a5benwillis> ping ogra
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| 07:52 | does a user need to be a membor ofa special group to log into ltsp(edubuntu)?
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| 08:01 | <a5benwillis> cliebow: Are you here this morning?
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| 08:05 | <erdinc> hi everyone
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| 08:07 | <a5benwillis> erdinc: Hi
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| 08:09 | <ogra_> a5benwillis, no
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| 08:10 | <erdinc> hi ogra_ whats up
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| 08:10 | <a5benwillis> ogra_: I finally got ssh andNCP authentivationto work!!
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| 08:10 | now Im tryingto get a client to login.
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| 08:11 | <ogra_> make sure your ssh keys are up to date ....
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| 08:11 | <a5benwillis> I thought the "enable access to fuse fylesystem" had to be checked.
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| 08:11 | <ogra_> if in doubt just runn sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 08:11 | no, thats for local devicde access
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| 08:12 | nothing you need for a plain login
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| 08:12 | <a5benwillis> I did that. User stillgets to a black screen with the little rotating circle and hangs
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| 08:12 | in student control panel I even see the user listed.
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| 08:12 | <ogra_> check .xsession-errors of that user
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| 08:13 | likely something in the session cant run
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| 08:13 | if it doesnt return immediately to the login screen, the ltsp and ldm sides are fine ... must be the users session
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| 08:15 | <a5benwillis> error
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| 08:16 | "Theapplication 'x-session-manager'lost its ocnnection to the display localhost:11.0; most likely the X server was shut down or you killed/destroyed the application.
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| 08:16 | <ogra_> did you hit ctrl-alt-backspace at some point =
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| 08:16 | ?
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| 08:16 | <a5benwillis> no
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| 08:16 | <ogra_> hmm
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| 08:17 | the homedir of that user is ok and writeable for all apps he starts ?=
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| 08:17 | <a5benwillis> well. once the black screen sits there for 5 mins Ive beenkilling the connection
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| 08:17 | <ogra_> ah
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| 08:17 | that the message then
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| 08:17 | *that's
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| 08:18 | <a5benwillis> cd bl
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| 08:18 | oops wrong window....
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| 08:18 | <ogra_> what about the users home ? if you log in as that directly on the server it all works ?
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| 08:18 | <a5benwillis> let me try
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| 08:19 | <ogra_> it rather looks like either something with the account is wrong or gnome-session doesnt work right
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| 08:19 | <a5benwillis> users home gets mapped to there novell home directory
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| 08:19 | but its writable because the xsession logs were there
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| 08:19 | <ogra_> and they have full write access to them ?
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| 08:19 | including no probs with dotfiles ?
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| 08:20 | <a5benwillis> .bash_history
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| 08:20 | .Xauthority-c
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| 08:20 | .xsession-errors
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| 08:21 | <ogra_> ok
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| 08:21 | <a5benwillis> those are the files that are there
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| 08:22 | <ogra_> its weird that you dont see more errors there
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| 08:25 | <a5benwillis> trying local login now
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| 08:28 | <osl> hello
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| 08:29 | demo done... with 1/3 clients :(
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| 08:29 | and i still cant figure out what the problem is
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| 08:34 | <osl> im watching the kdm and gdm logs, it seems they are not even trying to connect to the servers
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| 08:36 | <lapinmalin> Hello everybody
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| 08:41 | <intengu> using intergrated ltsp on xubuntu - how do you config ltsp-build-client to use cdrom then fetch missing packages from the internet
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| 08:42 | any ideas ladies & gentlemen
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| 08:43 | <a5benwillis> intengu: Haveyou configured your repositories?
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| 08:45 | <intengu> e5benwillis: yes this is what I type ltsp-build-client file:///media/cdrom (do not know what else to type to say fetch extra packages from the net)
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| 08:45 | <a5benwillis> it may be differentin xubuntu
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| 08:46 | Start by clicking on Applications-> System-> Synaptic Pacake Manager and enter your password.
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| 08:47 | Then click Settings-> Repositories and from here you can add or edit Installation Media
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| 08:48 | <intengu> a5benwillis: but in building ltsp chroot you use ltsp-build-client, but do not know what option to use to say fetch extra from the net
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| 08:48 | <Gadi> intengu: try editing: /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-client.conf
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| 08:49 | <a5benwillis> Ah, I understand the question now. Soorry
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| 08:49 | <intengu> Gadi: what do I enter
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| 08:50 | <Gadi> I think you can add a line like: MIRROR="file:///media/cdrom" or EXTRA_MIRROR="file:///media/cdrom"
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| 08:51 | something along those lines
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| 08:51 | ogra or vagrantc would know best
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| 08:52 | <intengu> Gadi: are they here
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| 08:52 | <Gadi> !seen ogra_
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| 08:52 | <ltspbot> Gadi: ogra_ was last seen in #ltsp 30 minutes and 17 seconds ago: <ogra_> its weird that you dont see more errors there
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| 08:53 | <Gadi> intengu: does that file exist?
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| 08:53 | also, is there a "man ltsp-build-client"?
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| 08:53 | perhaps there are more clues
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| 08:53 | I dont have an install handy atm
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| 08:55 | <intengu> Gadi: there is a man, but cannot figure howto do it (able to install from cdrom)
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| 08:56 | ogra_: any ideas on ltsp-build-client problem?
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| 08:56 | <Gadi> intengu: actually, copy the URL from the cdrom line in your /etc/apt/sources.list (assuming its the ubuntu cdrom)
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| 08:56 | and use that for MIRROR
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| 08:57 | in ltsp-build-client.conf
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| 08:57 | that might work
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| 08:57 | (ie. cdrom:)
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| 08:57 | <a5benwillis> Does "Unable to lock the ICE authority files" mean anything to you guys?
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| 08:57 | Error in~/.xsession-errors file
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| 08:59 | <Gadi> a5benwillis: there is a /tmp/.ICE-unix/ file that the session manager uses
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| 08:59 | if you had trouble with auth as I know you have,...
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| 08:59 | <intengu> Gadi: will try that, btw if i mention cdrom, then url will they be executed in that fashion
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| 08:59 | <a5benwillis> Gadi: Its looking for a file thats in the user home directoruy
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| 09:00 | <Gadi> ah, there's also an ~/.ICEauthority
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| 09:00 | file
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| 09:00 | <a5benwillis> thats the one it cant lock
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| 09:01 | <Gadi> perhaps the same user is already running a session?
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| 09:01 | I would start clean and pkill -u <user>
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| 09:02 | intengu: perhaps if you make the CDROM the mirror and http the extra_mirror
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| 09:03 | <intengu> Gadi: thanks
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| 09:16 | <erdinc> is there anyone who speaks malay here?
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| 09:19 | <lapinmalin> gadi : hello, have you found my lts.conf in pastin.com ?
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| 09:20 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: can you post the link to it again (sorry)
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| 09:24 | <lapinmalin> It's OK. Here is the link : http://pastebin.com/890705
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| 09:26 | * Gadi waits as slow pastebin.com loads | |
| 09:26 | <a5benwillis> We need a new pastebin. It sucks
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| 09:27 | <Gadi> heh, ah ok, lapinmalin this is how I usually do it....
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| 09:27 | SCREEN_02 = "rdesktop -a 16 -k fr -f -d GLOBAL -r sound:local -r disk:USB=/tmp/drives -r disk:drives=/Drives"
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| 09:28 | comment out RDP_OPTIONS
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| 09:28 | comment out HOTPLUG = Y
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| 09:28 | (not needed for 4.2)
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| 09:29 | comment out MODULE_01 = "usb_storage"
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| 09:29 | (udev should handle that)
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| 09:29 | I dont know what "ALLOW_UNKNOWN_USB" is...
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| 09:30 | oops - add the RDP_SERVER ip to the end of that SCREEN_02 line
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| 09:30 | <Gadi> and comment out RDP_SERVER
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| 09:30 | * Gadi HATES RDP_OPTIONS and RDP_SERVER | |
| 09:30 | <Gadi> what if you want to rdp connections on ur thin client?
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| 09:30 | so non-versatile
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| 09:31 | so: SCREEN_02 = "rdesktop -a 16 -k fr -f -d GLOBAL -r sound:local -r disk:USB=/tmp/drives -r disk:drives=/Drives 192.168.178.206"
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| 09:31 | <lapinmalin> I don't understand your question : what if you want to rdp connections on ur thin client?
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| 09:32 | <a5benwillis> ping Ogra
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| 09:32 | <Gadi> yeah - say you had 2 WTS and you wanted screen_01 to go to 1 and screen_02 to go to the other
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| 09:32 | the best way to do that is put all the parameters on the SCREEN_0X = lines
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| 09:33 | not with the RDP_X parameters
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| 09:33 | thats why RDP_X parameters are ugly imho
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| 09:34 | <cliebow_> Gadi:if xorg log shows no devices detected is that a BusID prob or a driver prob?
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| 09:34 | <lapinmalin> OK, i understand !
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| 09:35 | <Gadi> cliebow_: no "input devices"? or no "devices"?
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| 09:35 | <cliebow_> no devices
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| 09:35 | detected
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| 09:35 | <Gadi> most likely a config under the device section
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| 09:35 | try not specifying busid
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| 09:35 | you shouldnt need to
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| 09:36 | <cliebow_> should i randomly try other drivers..or randomly try other BusID?
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| 09:36 | ok
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| 09:36 | <Gadi> vesa should always work
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| 09:36 | with always in quotes ;)
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| 09:36 | <cliebow_> actually i did..this seems to be sunffb
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| 09:36 | <Gadi> this is ur sun box?
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| 09:37 | <cliebow_> heh..yes "No hardware left behind"
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| 09:37 | <Gadi> welcome to the wonderful world of proprietary hardware
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| 09:37 | Sun's hardware is another beast
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| 09:37 | from a console, you should be able to run: X :1 -pciscan
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| 09:37 | <cliebow_> seems all i do is proprietary...netvista apple this pos
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| 09:37 | <Gadi> or some such
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| 09:37 | <lapinmalin> i've modify my lts.conf with the new line SCREEN_02 and commented out the other. It's exactly the same problem. I see the name of my usb as a directory and this directory is empty
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| 09:38 | <Gadi> but, maybe its not pci
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| 09:38 | <cliebow_> scanpci
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| 09:38 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: you should only be redirect /Drives
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| 09:38 | not /tmp/drives
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| 09:38 | /tmp/drives will always only show the directory
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| 09:39 | <cliebow_> Heh Psycho PCI Bus Module
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| 09:39 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: whats supposed to happen is this:
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| 09:39 | <cliebow_> unknown card 0x1227/0006 3d labs Permedia 2d+3d
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| 09:40 | trying glint driver
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| 09:40 | <Gadi> you plug in the drive -> udev on the client informs lbuscd and creates an empty dir in /tmp/drives -> lbuscd informs lbussd -> lbussd mount /Drives/<mntpnt> to /tmp/drives/<mntpnt> using ltspfsd
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| 09:43 | <lapinmalin> OK, i understand.
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| 09:47 | <cliebow_> unknown card 0x1227/0006 3d labs Permedia 2d+3d
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| 09:48 | unknown card 0x1227/0006 3d labs Permedia 2d+3d
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| 09:48 | whoops
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| 09:49 | im progressed to "domainoutofrange
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| 09:51 | <lapinmalin> but the pb is nothing is mounted /Drives/<mntpnt>
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| 09:52 | <Gadi> right. which means that lbuscd is not talking to lbussd
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| 09:52 | what happens if you drop into a shell on the thin client,
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| 09:52 | kill all lbussd instances
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| 09:52 | and run /etc/rc.d/lbussd_bg
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| 09:53 | <lapinmalin> i'll try
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| 09:53 | <Gadi> then, try reinserting the USB
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| 10:00 | <lapinmalin> i kill all processes lbussd. Then i run /etc/rc.d/lbussd_bg, the result is : shell-init:could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: no such file ou directory
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| 10:03 | <Gadi> thats odd
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| 10:03 | <Gadi> do: cd /
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| 10:03 | then run the command
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| 10:05 | <a5benwillis> For anyone thats been following my NCP authentication trials.
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| 10:05 | I can log in and have the user authenticated, their account is created automatically and their netware home directory is mounted.
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| 10:05 | But
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| 10:06 | The last issue I have is thatit takes two log ins for the user to get a session.
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| 10:06 | On the first log in the useris created and .xauthority and two other "." files are created
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| 10:07 | <lapinmalin> ok, the command run.
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| 10:07 | <lapinmalin> But nothing in /Drives
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| 10:07 | <a5benwillis> The user gets sent back to the login screen (LDM)
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| 10:07 | <lapinmalin> and the script is a daemond as : /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/sbin/lbussd
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| 10:08 | <a5benwillis> On the second log in all of the .gconf, .gnome etc ate created and the user logs all the way in properly.
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| 10:08 | Anyone havea clue as to why that happens?
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| 10:13 | <cliebow_> if X:1 -scanpci gives 128:1:0 for a video card shouldnt that be usable as a BusID in xorg.conf
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| 10:20 | <lapinmalin> no more idea ?
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| 10:20 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: so, now if you unplug/plug the usb, and do ls /Drives its still empty?
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| 10:21 | <lapinmalin> YES
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| 10:21 | <Gadi> and lbuscd is running, too, right?
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| 10:22 | <lapinmalin> YES
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| 10:22 | yes : /usr/bin/perl - w /usr/sbin/lbussd
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| 10:22 | <Gadi> how about ls /dev/fuse
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| 10:25 | <lapinmalin> nothing in ls /dev/fuse
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| 10:26 | <lapinmalin> because /dev/fuse is a file !
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| 10:37 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: right - it should be - just making sure it exists
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| 10:37 | because that means that fuse loaded properly
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| 10:38 | Im not sure what the issue is
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| 10:38 | it should work
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| 10:45 | <cliebow_> xf86DomainIo:domain out of range..any one care to explain?
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| 10:53 | <lapinmalin> pfff. Do i have miss something ?
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| 11:03 | i have to leave. i will come back tomorrow... BONSOIR
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| 11:05 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hi.. have a question with this problem post here yesterday but i guess all yours were aways... he.. so read again here.. http://pastebin.ca/377126
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| 12:06 | <a5benwillis> I need to set the "UserAuthDir in gdm.conf totemp. This file doeasnt exist under the ltsp chroot does it?
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| 12:06 | Changing it in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf wont effect the LDM clients will it?
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| 12:08 | <mistik1> no
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| 12:09 | <a5benwillis> How can I make a similar change to the ldm clients? The problem is that all of the files are created in their network home directories now.
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| 12:09 | By changing that path I can store itin a temp directory on the server, this works great at the console login with gdm.
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| 12:10 | <mistik1> I dont know
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| 12:10 | <a5benwillis> maybe orga will see the question.
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| 12:12 | <a5benwillis> mistik1: Im still cleaningup some final issues with my ncp/nds logins
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| 12:12 | <mistik1> cool
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| 12:14 | <cliebow_> mistik1:any good commands to enumerate scsi devices on a system?
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| 12:15 | <mistik1> umm
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| 12:15 | donno
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| 12:15 | what do you mean by enumerate anyway?
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| 12:15 | <a5benwillis> will the real mistik1 please stand up!
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| 12:15 | lol
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| 12:15 | <mistik1> hehe
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| 12:16 | cliebow_: what exactly are you trying to do?
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| 12:16 | <cliebow_> i have abox with 4 drives and a scsi cable which hooks to this ssun box running ubuntu..but haavnt a clue if that is a raid array
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| 12:17 | or seperate drives or what
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| 12:17 | <mistik1> well what are the device names?
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| 12:18 | <cliebow_> i dont know...is htere a way to contact the scsi controller and have it say what is hooked to it
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| 12:18 | lspci shows 4 scsi controllers
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| 12:18 | <mistik1> dmesg should give you a good idea
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| 12:19 | You said the system is running ubuntu, therefore there must be an /etc/fstab
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| 12:19 | I would prolly dump dmesg to a file and get to reading
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| 12:20 | <cliebow_> hmm..makes sense..fstab "looks " all commented out except for cdrom
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| 12:25 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hey
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| 12:25 | <cliebow_> i don think it sees the secondary drive box at all...so i keep on experimenting
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| 12:25 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> http://pastebin.ca/377126
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| 12:25 | what i do with that?
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| 12:48 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cliebow_: r u there?
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| 12:49 | <a5benwillis> Does anyone know what the chroots equivilent of /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf is
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| 12:50 | <cliebow_> hmmm'
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| 12:51 | <a5benwillis> was that hmm for me?
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| 12:51 | <cliebow_> yeah...
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| 12:51 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> http://pastebin.ca/377126
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| 12:51 | <cliebow_> well ldm runs in the chroot
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| 12:51 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> please.. any suggestion?
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| 12:51 | <cliebow_> looking..
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| 12:51 | <a5benwillis> Surely there has to be one or something similar
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| 12:58 | <cliebow_> doesnt look like it..
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| 12:59 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cliebow_: can u help me with my pastebin?
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| 13:00 | <cliebow_> ill look..prob not 8~)
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| 13:00 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> can't help?
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| 13:00 | <cliebow_> i can look..but prob wont be any help
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| 13:01 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ahh
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| 13:01 | wel. :| somebody here can help?
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| 13:01 | or know what happen ..
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| 13:01 | i gueess is trouble to share devices by nfs
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| 13:01 | :|
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| 13:02 | <cliebow_> nfs?
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| 13:02 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i guess..
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| 13:03 | <cliebow_> i think you are talking about usinfg a floppy via local devices in ltsp 4.2?
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| 13:03 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yes
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| 13:03 | my 1st cliente start ok
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| 13:03 | my 2nd
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| 13:03 | start ok with floppy dev
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| 13:03 | but show at desktop
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| 13:03 | <cliebow_> and the floppy icon shows on the desktop
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| 13:03 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> floppy(1) from client 1
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| 13:03 | yes
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| 13:04 | and client3 boot ok and have floopy (1) from 2dn client
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| 13:04 | and 1st client have
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| 13:04 | floppy(1) from 2 and floppy(2) from 3 client
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| 13:04 | and.. etc etc
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| 13:04 | to client (n)
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| 13:04 | so.. I try to umount
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| 13:04 | said error
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| 13:04 | because only root can use fstab
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| 13:04 | :S
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| 13:04 | to umount floppy
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| 13:05 | and fstab have
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| 13:05 | biblioteca:~# cat /etc/fstab | grep fd0
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| 13:05 | /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
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| 13:05 | flash drives(pendrives) and CD(s) .. mount and umount ok
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| 13:05 | not show all thats of icons...
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| 13:07 | <cliebow_> is it the boot floppy that shows? or is it floppies inserted after bootup..
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| 13:08 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> no..
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| 13:09 | just will be appears. when clients is inn in to gdm system
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| 13:09 | when login to gnome
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| 13:13 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> so?
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| 13:13 | no idea?
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| 13:13 | :|
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| 13:14 | <cliebow_> i dont..i am having a hard time translating..
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| 13:15 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uff
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| 13:15 | my english is bad :|
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| 13:15 | <str4nd> my london lankuake is pad too!
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| 13:17 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> if someone of dev of ltsp speak spanish my life would be better O:)
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| 13:21 | <cliebow_> i understand
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| 13:29 | <a5benwillis> Ping Ogra
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| 13:29 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cliebow_: can i see your fstab of fd0?
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| 13:29 | <str4nd> < ogra> pong
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| 13:30 | <a5benwillis> Ahathere you are.
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| 13:30 | Im trying to do something similar to changing the UserAuthDir in gdm.conf. Can this be done in LDM?
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| 13:31 | .
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| 13:31 | ok, maybe that wasnt him lol
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| 13:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hey
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| 13:47 | why /opt/ltsp-4.2/i386/etc/fstab -> /tmp/fstab and that file is empty inside?
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| 13:51 | cliebow_:
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| 14:09 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: can u help with some problem?
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| 14:09 | Gadi: have 15 clients and all show 15 floppys icons
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| 14:11 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: try this: sudo gconf-editor
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| 14:11 | go to: apps > nautilus > desktop
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| 14:11 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: i'm by remote shell
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| 14:11 | <Gadi> uncheck volumes_visible
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| 14:12 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uhmmmmm
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| 14:12 | <Gadi> then have the users logout and log back in
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| 14:12 | so, do: ssh -X ;)
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| 14:12 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> -X ?
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| 14:12 | <Gadi> are you on a linux box locally?
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| 14:13 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> no
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| 14:13 | <Gadi> how do you get the remote shell?
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| 14:13 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i have to pass 1st of Layer3 router :)
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| 14:13 | <Gadi> putty?
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| 14:13 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> from L3
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| 14:13 | ssh directly
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| 14:13 | i login into L3
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| 14:13 | then
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| 14:13 | login into server ltsp
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| 14:14 | <Gadi> ah, I see
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| 14:15 | so, the router can do ssh?
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| 14:15 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yes
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| 14:15 | but don't think to make -X
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| 14:15 | <Gadi> how do you log into the router? web browser?
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| 14:16 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> by telnet
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| 14:16 | <Gadi> thats an interesting and insecure setup ;)
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| 14:16 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> why insecure?
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| 14:17 | <Gadi> telnet transfers your password in cleartext
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| 14:17 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ahh
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| 14:18 | i c :)
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| 14:18 | well..
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| 14:18 | my problem
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| 14:18 | <Gadi> there's a command line tool called gconftool-2 to make the changes I suggested, but I dont usually do it that way, so I would need the syntax
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| 14:18 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> when i logged into ltsp-server
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| 14:18 | what i do?
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| 14:18 | <Gadi> well, there's a program to configure Gnome called gconf-editor
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| 14:19 | it's a bit like a group policy editor in the Windows world
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| 14:19 | you can modify most of the way Gnome and Gnome apps behave there
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| 14:19 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uhmm
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| 14:19 | i see now in my box
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| 14:19 | <Gadi> and, if you run it as root (sudo) you can make changes and set them to be global for all users
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| 14:20 | so, one of the things is a setting that makes volumes visibile on the nautilus desktop
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| 14:20 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> that place not show nothing
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| 14:20 | <Gadi> go to: apps > nautilus > desktop
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| 14:21 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i'm there
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| 14:21 | <Gadi> then scroll down on the right side
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| 14:21 | at the bootom, you should see a checkbox with volumes_visible
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| 14:21 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> nothing!
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| 14:21 | <Gadi> you have nothing on the right side?
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| 14:21 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> nope
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| 14:22 | <Gadi> thats strange
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| 14:22 | what distro are you on?
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| 14:22 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> let me explain better
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| 14:22 | debian etch ltsp-4.2
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| 14:22 | look
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| 14:22 | yesterday i forgot to clients
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| 14:22 | can use devices local
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| 14:22 | so i made adduser(1 to 15) fuse
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| 14:22 | so NOW works fine
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| 14:23 | BUT when in the morning start navigation room
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| 14:23 | start server ok
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| 14:23 | start all client
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| 14:23 | and when i logging into gnomed
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| 14:23 | 1st client start ok
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| 14:23 | and show floppy devices icon
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| 14:23 | ok
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| 14:23 | when i logging 2nd client
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| 14:23 | appears 2 floopys devices icons in both
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| 14:23 | when i logging again to 15 client
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| 14:23 | so have 15 floppys devices icons
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| 14:24 | thats my problem now
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| 14:24 | so appears.. floppy floppy(1) floppy(2) ... floppy(15)
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| 14:24 | and .. works.. because all use floppy
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| 14:24 | whe u click onlsy floppy works fine
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| 14:25 | <Gadi> ah, i found a discussion about this problem: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=115221913400003&r=1&w=2
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| 14:25 | maybe it helps
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| 14:25 | ?
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| 14:25 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> fine. let me check
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| 14:27 | <a5benwillis> Anyone know what would cause a thin client to hang when logging out? I can hit ctl-alt-back and it resets tot he login screen.
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| 14:34 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: if i set volume visibility = off
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| 14:35 | what happen with the orig device floppy each client
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| 14:35 | this no disappear right?
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| 14:35 | just go away floppy(n)
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| 14:35 | but floppy no?
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| 14:36 | <Gadi> right
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| 14:37 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> nice.. so
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| 14:37 | have to walk 2 blocks to try then
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| 14:37 | remote can't see gconf
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| 14:37 | <Gadi> :)
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| 14:37 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i try to fix with this
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| 14:37 | LOCAL_DEVICE_01 = /dev/fd0:floppy
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| 14:37 | LOCAL_DEVICE_02 = /dev/sda1:usb
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| 14:37 | to strict use but not works :)
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| 14:37 | ok .brb
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| 15:16 | <Egyptian[Home]> 3333322222241000000000000000000000000003.....00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000......................................................................................................1.0.22224..211111111111111
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| 15:17 | uh .. woops ..sorry about that .. i was cleaning my keyboard
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| 15:17 | so .. hello all
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| 15:18 | i have a question .. i have an app ..that connects to its server. the server checks to see what ip the app is connecting from .. and if it isnt the correct ip (in the db) it wont allow the app to connect. how do i solve this problem with ltsp?
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| 15:19 | <a5benwillis> the connectionwil always come from a single ip address
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| 15:21 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi:
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| 15:21 | works cool
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| 15:22 | but works by client
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| 15:22 | when i type sudo gconf-edit
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| 15:22 | i set unmark volumes visibility but
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| 15:22 | not works
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| 15:22 | and i relogin again
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| 15:22 | and nothing
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| 15:22 | <a5benwillis> Can anyone tell me how to modify the default desktop thats used when new users log into the chroot?
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| 15:22 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> so i stay there un mark
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| 15:22 | and any way i un mark client by client
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| 15:22 | in mode global not works
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| 15:23 | <Gadi> ah, you can do this:
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| 15:23 | right-click on the value field and do: Set as Mandatory
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| 15:23 | that should force it on all users
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| 15:23 | (sorry - forgot that part)
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| 15:23 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ahhhh
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| 15:23 | jajaja
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| 15:23 | well.. i'm back
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| 15:24 | so i roght that now for my notes. to present in flisolf..this part for FAQ is VERY IMPORTANT ;)
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| 15:24 | *i'm right*
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| 15:35 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: r u there?
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| 15:35 | <Gadi> kind of
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| 15:35 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uff this part to my presentation will be fine but can't go again to walk that 2 blocks
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| 15:36 | u can screenshot that part when u clic that mandatory with gconf-editor open and send me by email?
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| 15:36 | <Gadi> sure
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| 15:36 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> thanxs
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| 15:36 | Gadi: emperor@infomed.sld.cu
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| 15:41 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: on its way
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| 15:41 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> thanxs Gadi
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| 15:42 | Gadi: have to set to my clients can't change the wallpaper of desktop.. where can i set read-only some file importat to can't do this?
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| 15:43 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: you can make that change in gconf-editor too
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| 15:43 | and Set as Mandatory
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| 15:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> wow.. what is the /path/to/that/
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| 15:44 | <Gadi> apps > desktop > gnome > background
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| 15:44 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> and the right side said?
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| 15:45 | <Gadi> you can set the path to the picture_filename, and other options
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| 15:45 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yeah yea but users can't change it
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| 15:45 | <Gadi> not if you make it mandatory, I think
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| 15:46 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ahh nice
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| 15:46 | <Gadi> there's another gui tool for gnome desktop profiles....
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| 15:46 | whats it called....
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| 15:47 | sabayon
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| 15:47 | i think
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| 15:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uhm
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| 15:48 | like alakarte
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| 15:48 | to edit gnome menu :)
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| 15:48 | <Gadi> http://www.gnome.org/projects/sabayon/
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| 15:49 | i think its supposed to make making gconf changes easier
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| 15:49 | * Gadi has never used it | |
| 15:49 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> maybe i said same to you
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| 15:50 | i talk about it but not ahve experience :D
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| 16:00 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> c'u tomorrow
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| 16:10 | <ipl> i am having a problem booting an asus a7n8x system
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| 16:10 | pxe works and it boots up to rc.sysinit and then hangs
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| 16:11 | everything looks good up until that point
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| 17:42 | <a5benwillis> can anyone help me with customizing the LDM login? What files do I edit?
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| 17:42 | Not the login screen but the desktop for all new users who log in.
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| 20:14 | <jammcq> hey kids
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| 20:15 | <a5benwillis> hola
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| 20:15 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 20:15 | <sbalneav> Evening all
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| 20:15 | Hey jammcq
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| 20:15 | <jammcq> how's it goin, eh?
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| 20:15 | <sbalneav> Goin good. How you doin?
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| 20:15 | <jammcq> doing fine
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| 20:16 | just wondering where I could get a cookie
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| 20:16 | <sbalneav> Hmmm
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| 20:17 | <mathesis> Invito a #cctime a todos los que hablen español para desarrollar una control de cyber para ltsp5
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| 20:18 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 20:19 | <a5benwillis> can either of you help me with customizing the LDM login? What files do I edit? I just cant find any info online about it.
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| 20:19 | not the actual login screen but the desktop, icons etc.
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| 20:21 | <jammcq> no clue
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| 20:21 | i'm not up to speed on ldm yet
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| 20:21 | that's one of the goals for this weekend
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| 20:21 | <a5benwillis> thanks for looking. I did email the ltsp mailing list. Maybe someone there will know.
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| 20:22 | <jammcq> ogra is the guy you want to talk to
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| 20:25 | <mathesis> Try #cctime. The channel born for control cyber with ltsp5
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| 20:50 | a5benwillis: Was that you asking about modifying desktop defaults?
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| 20:57 | <a5benwillis> yes
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| 20:59 | sbalneav: It was me
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| 21:05 | <sbalneav> a5benwillis: You're using the gnome desktop?
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| 21:08 | <a5benwillis> yes
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| 21:09 | <sbalneav> Then you'll want to look into both sabayon, and setting up defaults in the gconf-editor.
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| 21:09 | <a5benwillis> I want to add a 'window' to the desktop if possible with shortcuts to the programs. This will mimic the Novell Application window that my users are used to seeing.
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| 21:11 | <jammcq> a5benwillis: you using Gnome?
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| 21:11 | go into the Desktop folder, and create a new directory
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| 21:11 | <a5benwillis> yes gnome. Thats the default with LDM tight
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| 21:11 | <jammcq> it should show up as a folder on your desktop
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| 21:12 | <sbalneav> ldm doesn't set the default
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| 21:12 | <jammcq> then, double click the folder to open it, nautilus should display it like a window
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| 21:13 | <a5benwillis> will that show up on all users desktop? I guess I need to be able to make sure it cant be deleted as well.
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| 21:13 | <jammcq> well, you'd need to add it to each users Desktop folder
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| 21:14 | <a5benwillis> can it be a sym link?
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| 21:14 | <jammcq> dunno, give it a try
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| 21:14 | <a5benwillis> that way I can modify it and have it show up everywhere
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| 21:16 | <jammcq> well, give it a try, see if it works
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| 21:17 | <a5benwillis> will do
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| 22:48 | <jammcq> /quit
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| 23:53 | <rookie> I am setting up a ltsp for the first time using K12LTSP, my client is receiving DHCP but no TFTP, I've checked the services on the server and they appear to be there, the client is using Intel UNDI, PXE 2.0
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| 23:54 | all my clients are the same and i did a local install on one to make sure the hardware was all supported
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