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Channel log from 11 May 2015 (all times are UTC)
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| 11:32 | <raphr> Hello, Debian jessie : I have removed "quiet" option from ltsp-update-kernels.conf but it is stell generated with ltsp-update-kernels. any clues ?
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| 12:02 | <vzr> I'm trying to setup two Remote Desktop connections on same Linux Server. What I mean, is that two separate Windows PC's can connect to this Linux graphical environment separately
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| 12:03 | meaning that if I move the mouse while inside the linux-pc, the other guy connected via remote desktop doesn't see his mouse moving
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| 12:04 | if you know what I mean
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| 12:04 | is this possible via LTSP?
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| 12:06 | <raphr> vzr: this is what LTSP does by default
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| 12:07 | one server shares multiple sessions.
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| 12:07 | <vzr> ok thanks
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| 15:52 | <alkisg> raphr: you need to run ltsp-chroot /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels
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| 15:53 | vzr: if you're looking to connect to a linux server from windows pcs, then you're not looking for ltsp but for x2go
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| 16:04 | <raphr> alkisg: thank you this working then launch ltsp-update-kernels as usual
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| 16:04 | <alkisg> Yup
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| 16:05 | <raphr> by the way ltsp is getting messy with systemd
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| 16:06 | <alkisg> Meaning?
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| 16:06 | Any issues should be reported to the bug tracker
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| 16:06 | !ltsp-bug
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| 16:06 | <ltsp`> ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 16:08 | <raphr> I had interactiveconfig script in RC_FILE_01 which doesn't work anymore
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| 16:08 | <alkisg> RCFILE_01?
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| 16:08 | LTSP just puts that to /etc/rc.local
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| 16:08 | <raphr> in lts.conf
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| 16:09 | <alkisg> Does it go there?
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| 16:09 | <raphr> yes
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| 16:09 | <alkisg> If it doesn't, it's an issue with your lts.conf
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| 16:09 | If it does, and it doesn't run, then it's a bug with your distribution
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| 16:09 | In any case I don't think it's an ltsp bug
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| 16:09 | <raphr> it does. but system hide output and input
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| 16:09 | it does. but systems hide output and input
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| 16:09 | <alkisg> But how is that related to ltsp?
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| 16:10 | Can't you file a bug report in your distro and say "my /etc/rc.local hides output and intput"? Do you need to mention ltsp there?
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| 16:10 | <raphr> not directly
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| 16:10 | <alkisg> Right, e.g. libreoffice hangs sometimes here, but I don't blame neither ltsp nor my lg monitors for that...
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| 16:10 | I blame the libreoffice code, where it can be fixed
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| 16:11 | Btw, is there any assurance that rc.local will have input and output?
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| 16:11 | It's supposed to run in parallel with other init scripts afaik...
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| 16:11 | <raphr> sorry. rc.local was a convenient way to do init scripts but it causes compatibilty trouble with systemd
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| 16:11 | <alkisg> Maybe you wanted to use something else?
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| 16:12 | What input and output are you looking for? when will that happen in the boot process? etc
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| 16:12 | Maybe there's a more appropriate way to do what you're looking for
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| 16:13 | <raphr> I'm looking for another way. Other than revert sysv in ltsp-build-client
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| 16:13 | <alkisg> If you mention what you want here, maybe we can help you
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| 16:13 | <raphr> it launches a python script wich ask some questions then reboot
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| 16:14 | <alkisg> And do you want to run that before or after X is loaded? Or simultaneously?
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| 16:14 | <raphr> very specific ltsp though
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| 16:14 | <alkisg> E.g. you could pop up a dialog at the ldm prompt...
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| 16:14 | Or you could even have an ldm menu for that
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| 16:14 | <raphr> just tty script
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| 16:15 | <alkisg> To revert to tty at boot, you need to disable plymouth or use the plymouth functions
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| 16:15 | That's why I'm asking, maybe you don't want to go to all that trouble
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| 16:16 | Anyways it looks like you don't want to share more details, np... /me goes back to checking ltsp on uefi... :)
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| 16:16 | <raphr> In fact I use a tiny plugin (ltsp-build-client) specifi distro to configure local hdd system
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| 16:17 | ltsp is relly good at pxe booting and custumizing
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| 16:17 | <alkisg> There's SCREEN_xx=xx for that
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| 16:17 | That stops plymouth and runs a screen script, e.g. a menu or a telnet script or an ssh script...
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| 16:17 | RCFILE_xx=xx isn't appropriate
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| 16:18 | Check for example /usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/ssh
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| 16:18 | <raphr> I haven't installed xserver
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| 16:18 | <alkisg> No Xorg needed for ssh
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| 16:19 | <raphr> OK, good clue.
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| 16:20 | I'll have a look at this
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| 16:20 | Thank you
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| 16:20 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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| 16:34 | <raphr> Humm I have getty an all 6 first ttys
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| 16:35 | <alkisg> !screen_02
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| 16:35 | <ltsp`> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 16:35 | <alkisg> Try that, i.e. [Default] SCREEN_07=ldm SCREEN_02=shell
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| 16:36 | Also, which distro/version is that?
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| 16:37 | <raphr> tested. tis swithc to tty2 put getty and not shell directly as before
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| 16:38 | I have Debian jessie
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| 16:38 | before meant Debian Wheezy
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| 16:39 | quick look in ltsp script seems interract with inittab
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| 16:39 | could be reason it doesn't work
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| 16:41 | <alkisg> Yes, it's possible that that part of the ltsp code was not updated for systemd
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| 16:41 | If so, a bug report should be filed
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| 16:43 | <raphr> launchpad or debian ?
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| 16:43 | <alkisg> !ltsp-bug
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| 16:43 | <ltsp`> ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 16:43 | <alkisg> As systemd is in most distros now, it should be supported upstream, not just in debian
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| 16:44 | <raphr> Yes true since ubuntu 15.04
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| 16:44 | <alkisg> raphr: can you check your jessie installation and see what systemd .service file calls getty?
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| 16:44 | Ubuntu is still using upstart for lots of things though, e.g. in 15.10 I still have an upstart service for getty
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| 16:45 | Try `grep -r getty /etc/systemd`
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| 16:46 | <raphr> nothing there I'll look forward
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| 16:49 | in /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants i'ge got only getty@tty1.service
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| 16:50 | but finaly 6 gettys are launched
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| 16:52 | <alkisg> Where is tty1.service?
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| 16:54 | man systemd-getty-generator
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| 16:55 | http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/serial-console.html
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| 16:55 | getty@.service is responsible for virtual terminal (VT) login prompts, i.e. those on your VGA screen as exposed in /dev/tty1 and similar devices.
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| 16:56 | "In a systemd world we made this more dynamic: in order to make things more efficient login prompts are now started on demand only. As you switch to the VTs the getty service is instantiated "
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| 16:57 | <raphr> wow. getting tricky
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| 16:57 | <alkisg> "Note that the auto-spawning of gettys is only attempted if no other subsystem took possession of the VTs yet."
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| 16:57 | So we don't actually need to override the gettys in ltsp
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| 16:57 | <raphr> ha good point
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| 17:01 | maybe the getty-static.service ?
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| 17:01 | Description=getty on tty2-tty6 if dbus and logind are not available
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| 17:04 | man logind.conf
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| 17:07 | <alkisg> raphr: no, the point of messing with inittab was just to stop the gettys
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| 17:08 | If systemd is smart enough to stop them automatically, we don't need anything systemd-specific
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| 17:08 | But we still do need to invoke those from the ltsp service itself
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| 17:08 | ltsp-core, ltsp-client-core or whatever its name is
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| 17:09 | (the ltsp service itself is of course systemd-specific...)
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| 17:11 | <raphr> OK
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| 17:12 | <alkisg> raphr: err do you have an ltsp-*.service file?
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| 17:12 | I.e. a systemd service for ltsp-client?
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| 17:16 | <raphr> dpkg -L ltsp-client-core => noting for systemd
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| 17:23 | most of services is backward compatible, but no luck with gettys
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| 17:24 | should i file a bug ?
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| 17:27 | <alkisg> (08:23:36 μμ) raphr: most of services is backward compatible, but no luck with gettys ==> do you have /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core ?
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| 17:27 | Does systemd launch sysvinit services in some compatibility mode?
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| 17:27 | <raphr> yes it does
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| 17:28 | <alkisg> OK then I don't see any issues, SCREEN_xx should work normally from init.d/ltsp-client-core...
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| 17:28 | Aaaah...
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| 17:28 | Let me see if systemd beats ltsp to the vt allocation
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| 17:30 | /usr/share/ltsp/screen_session => while [ $(fgconsole) -ne "$SCREEN_NUM" ]; do
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| 17:30 | No ok we do call openvt before that
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| 17:31 | File a debian bug for "SCREEN_xx" doesn't work in jessie and let vagrantc figure it out :)
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| 17:31 | * alkisg waves | |
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| 17:31 | <raphr> Tahnk you !
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