IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
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| 10:07 | <workingcats> hi, forgive the stupid question, but if i have an ltsp image (made with ltsp-update-image), can i "restore" that into the build chroot?
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| 10:08 | ie can i rm -rf my build chroot, loopmount the image, and then copy everything into the chroot path?
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| 14:23 | <bennabiy> workingcats, don't see why not. the image should just be a squashfs compressed image.
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| 14:23 | <workingcats> bennabiy, great, ty
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| 14:23 | <bennabiy> worth a try at least
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| 14:25 | <workingcats> well i was most concerned about ltsp-build-image making some magic when constructing the image that shouldnt be in the chroot
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| 14:26 | oh actually i can just try it cant i.. make a new image, desquash it, compare
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| 14:26 | <bennabiy> yes
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| 14:27 | should be able to do a mount -t squashfs -o loop
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| 14:29 | worked for me :)
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| 14:30 | mounts read only
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| 14:41 | <alkisg> Note /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.excludes though
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| 14:41 | you probably want to empty that, if you want to be able to restore the image
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| 15:00 | <bennabiy> good point :)
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| 15:01 | I was going to recommend looking up what might be excluded
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| 15:04 | <bennabiy> alkisg: I have a location that I want to run all fat clients, which has wireless internet connection and ethernet for lab, would I follow ltsp-pnp instructions or is there an updated instruction list without using dnsmasq
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| 16:01 | <alkisg_web> bennabiy: the ltsp-pnp instructions are fine, dnsmasq works out of the box for 2 nic setups
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| 16:02 | Just set the wired nic to 192.168.67.1 as the wiki says
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| 16:04 | <bennabiy> thanks :)
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| 16:30 | <lopta> Hello vagrantc
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| 16:30 | * vagrantc waves | |
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| 18:07 | <gbaman> hmm, having issues vagrantc...
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| 18:08 | I have a very simple read -t 5 -p "Hit enter or wait 5s"
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| 18:08 | in init
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| 18:09 | <vagrantc> init?
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| 18:09 | <gbaman> in the initrd.img-3.10-3-rpi file
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| 18:09 | <vagrantc> does the shell support those read parameters?
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| 18:10 | <gbaman> thats what I dont know..
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| 18:10 | <vagrantc> it's probably busybox shell, or klibc sh
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| 18:11 | <vagrantc> add break=init to your boot parameters, and it should dump you to a shell to experiment with
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| 18:11 | thouh probably want to put it as a hook rather than mangling init itself
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| 18:11 | <gbaman> ooo
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| 18:11 | didnt know that
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| 18:30 | <alkisg> busybox ash
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| 18:30 | x=yes; read -t 1 -p "Press Enter to boot from network" x
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| 18:30 | echo $x
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| 18:31 | (busybox ash is the name of the shell in the initramfs)
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| 18:31 | (so you can test your scripts in a real system instead of in break=init)
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| 18:50 | <Pablo__> hola alguien habla castellano?
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| 18:50 | hey guys i have a little problem here
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| 18:51 | don't know why but the client it's like frezee
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| 18:51 | like if the lan conection was not enought
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| 18:51 | but it's a 1G connection
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| 18:55 | <Leolo_3> freezes at what point?
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| 19:00 | <Pablo__> it's so extranges
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| 19:00 | because its like an old tv
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| 19:00 | changing the image from top to bottom
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| 19:01 | and sometimes you can see like two diferent images
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| 19:01 | <Leolo_3> hmmmm
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| 19:01 | so you can log in w/o a problem/
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| 19:02 | <Pablo__> yes i can log in without a problem
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| 19:02 | ask for user and password and really works ok
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| 19:03 | but when you are in the ububtu desktop
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| 19:03 | the screen start with the issue
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| 19:04 | trying to change the lst.conf
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| 19:04 | <alkisg> Do you have proprietary drivers on the server, like nvidia or fglrx?
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| 19:05 | <Pablo__> i have an intel
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| 19:05 | <alkisg> And the client?
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| 19:05 | <Pablo__> aonther intel gma3150
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| 19:06 | but the server didn't reconaize the graphic card
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| 19:06 | so do i have to install it?
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| 19:06 | <alkisg> What ubuntu version? 12.04?
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| 19:06 | <Pablo__> edubuntu 12
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| 19:06 | 12.04
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| 19:07 | <alkisg> server: uname -a
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| 19:07 | What's the output of that?
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| 19:07 | <Pablo__> Linux server 3.11.0-18-generic #32~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Feb 20 17:54:21 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
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| 19:08 | <alkisg> dpkg -l xserver-xorg*|grep ^ii|head -n1
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| 19:09 | <Pablo__> ii xserver-xorg-core-lts-saucy 2:1.14.5-1ubuntu2~saucy1~precise2
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| 19:09 | Xorg X server - core server
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| 19:09 | <alkisg> lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
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| 19:09 | <Pablo__> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller [8086:0152] (rev 09) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:844d] Kernel driver in use: i915
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| 19:10 | <alkisg> Nice. Now, can you run the same commands on a client, on a localxterm?
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| 19:10 | !localxterm
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| 19:10 | <ltsp`> localxterm: Any applications that you launch on a thin client actually runs on the server, not on the client itself. If you want to open a program on the client locally, you can type 'ltsp-localapps <program>' in a run dialog or in a terminal. For example, 'ltsp-localapps xterm' to open a terminal running on the client.
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| 19:11 | <alkisg> (on your server, you're up to date with the latest stable kernel/xorg, and they see your graphics card fine)
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| 19:11 | <Pablo__> ok one sec...
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| 19:11 | ok U_U
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| 19:16 | in the user interface it's impossible to work
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| 19:16 | <alkisg> !screen_02
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| 19:16 | <ltsp`> screen_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 19:16 | <Pablo__> but i don't know the user and password in tty1 (client)
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| 19:17 | <alkisg> Try that ^ to get a real console
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| 19:17 | There is none, try screen 02
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| 19:17 | <Pablo__> ok
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| 19:23 | <Pablo__> ok i'm in
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| 19:23 | dpkg -l xserver-xorg*|grep ^ii|head -n1
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> You can run all the commands with >> /tmp/out in the end to put the output to a file
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| 19:25 | and then scp it to the server
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| 19:26 | Also scp your /var/log/Xorg.0.log*, and pastebin it
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| 19:26 | !pastebin
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| 19:26 | <ltsp`> pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> (from the client)
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| 19:30 | <Pablo__> No input driver specified, ifnorin this devidce
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| 19:32 | (client) dpkg
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| 19:33 | xserver-xorg 1:7.6+12ubuntu2 X.Org X server
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| 19:35 | (client) lspci
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| 19:36 | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation ATOM Processor D4XX/D5XX/N4XX/N5XX
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| 19:36 | integrated Graphics Controller [8086:a001] (rev 02)
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| 19:43 | <alkisg> uname -a
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| 19:43 | Install the latest kernel and xorg to your chroot
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| 19:43 | So that they support the client better
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| 19:54 | <alkisg> (09:43:01 μμ) alkisg: uname -a
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| 19:54 | (09:43:13 μμ) alkisg: Install the latest kernel and xorg to your chroot
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| 19:54 | (09:43:22 μμ) alkisg: So that they support the client better
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| 19:59 | <Pablo_____> So
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| 19:59 | i have to login the the thin client
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| 19:59 | and install the lastest kernel and xorg there?
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| 20:03 | <alkisg> Pablo_____: not in the client's tty1, but in the chroot
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| 20:05 | <alkisg> No, you need to install them on your server's /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 20:05 | <Pablo_____> ltsp-chroot
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| 20:06 | I'm so lost U_U
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| 20:11 | <Pablo_____> i will try to find information on the internet thx
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| 20:23 | <alkisg> You didn't understand what I wrote?
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| 20:24 | sudo ltsp-chroot apt-get install --purge linux-generic-lts-saucy xserver-xorg-lts-saucy
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| 20:24 | <Pablo_____> ah
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| 20:24 | ok!
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| 20:24 | thx!
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| 20:25 | i was cheking also Ltsp VideoCards
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| 21:48 | <gbaman> vagrantc: cant find /boot...
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| 21:49 | is it meant to be mounted by initrd?
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| 22:11 | <vagrantc> gbaman: it typically only mounts /, if you've made /boot a separate partition, then it's not going to mount it....
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| 22:12 | that's handled by the operating system.
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| 22:12 | gbaman: but i presume you mean for your script ...
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| 22:12 | gbaman: you'll probably have to mount the filesystem yourself.
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| 23:07 | <Ark74> hi guys!
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| 23:10 | i was wondering if there's a test where i can determine if the epoptes streaming is slow on clients becasue of video hardware on the client side
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| 23:11 | or if it's a bandwidth matter
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