IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 18 July 2018 (all times are UTC)
| 05:04 | alkisg has joined IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) | |
| 05:05 | <alkisg> 20:34<alkisg> You could give it a try with ubuntu if you want, maybe some more recent kernel will make a difference
| |
| 05:05 | 21:47<Leolo_2> fyi, kernel-ml is the mainline kernel packaged for CentOS (currently 4.17.6) and kernel-lt is the long term kernel (currently 4.4.140)
| |
| 05:05 | Hehe :D Yeah, trying to start a new pc with kernel 2.6 was too farfetched
| |
| 05:06 | 22:03<derick_> How can I use guestlogin and autologin feature together? ==> That doesn't make much sense, if you autologin, where would you see the "login as guest" button?
| |
| 05:09 | lee__ has joined IRC (lee__!~lee@loathe.ms) | |
| 05:09 | zama_ has joined IRC (zama_!~zama@81.4.123.134) | |
| 05:10 | highvolt1ge has joined IRC (highvolt1ge!~highvolta@shell.jonathancarter.org) | |
| 05:15 | kjackal has joined IRC (kjackal!~quassel@2a02:582:cf1:7000:bd14:7e46:bdaf:d071) | |
| 05:16 | highvoltage has left IRC (highvoltage!~highvolta@ubuntu/member/highvoltage, *.net *.split) | |
| 05:16 | zama has left IRC (zama!~zama@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776, *.net *.split) | |
| 05:16 | dragon788_ has left IRC (dragon788_!sid158229@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tsjugyxhpdzdnypr, *.net *.split) | |
| 05:16 | lee has left IRC (lee!~lee@loathe.ms, *.net *.split) | |
| 05:20 | zama_ has left IRC (zama_!~zama@81.4.123.134, Changing host) | |
| 05:20 | zama_ has joined IRC (zama_!~zama@unaffiliated/stryx/x-3871776) | |
| 05:20 | zama_ is now known as zama | |
| 05:20 | <quinox> perhaps he wants a fresh profile every time the machine boots
| |
| 05:30 | Statler|Home has joined IRC (Statler|Home!~Georg@p5B30E233.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 05:35 | dragon788_ has joined IRC (dragon788_!sid158229@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tsjugyxhpdzdnypr) | |
| 05:39 | <alkisg> LDM_GUESTLOGIN isn't a guest account, it's just a [Login as guest] button which uses a regular account that already exists on the server and doesn't have any clean up logic
| |
| 05:39 | It's a bit misleading; the "guest" there just means "login without knowning a username/password"
| |
| 06:11 | ricotz has joined IRC (ricotz!~ricotz@p5B2A8CE8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 06:11 | ricotz has joined IRC (ricotz!~ricotz@ubuntu/member/ricotz) | |
| 06:13 | kjackal has left IRC (kjackal!~quassel@2a02:582:cf1:7000:bd14:7e46:bdaf:d071, Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | |
| 06:29 | kjackal has joined IRC (kjackal!~quassel@2a02:582:d0b:ed00:bd14:7e46:bdaf:d071) | |
| 06:49 | gdi2k has joined IRC (gdi2k!~gdi2k@58.69.160.27) | |
| 06:53 | gdi2k has left IRC (gdi2k!~gdi2k@58.69.160.27, Client Quit) | |
| 07:12 | gdi2k has joined IRC (gdi2k!~gdi2k@122.55.209.26) | |
| 07:16 | gdi2k has left IRC (gdi2k!~gdi2k@122.55.209.26, Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | |
| 07:24 | gdi2k has joined IRC (gdi2k!~gdi2k@122.55.209.26) | |
| 07:33 | gdi2k has left IRC (gdi2k!~gdi2k@122.55.209.26, Quit: Leaving) | |
| 07:33 | gdi2k_ has joined IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@122.55.209.26) | |
| 07:43 | Leolo_2 has left IRC (Leolo_2!~fil@24-54-27-253.mg.cgocable.ca, Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | |
| 08:01 | Statler|Home has left IRC (Statler|Home!~Georg@p5B30E233.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 09:03 | alkisg has left IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg, Quit: Leaving.) | |
| 09:14 | gdi2k_ has left IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@122.55.209.26, Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | |
| 09:20 | gdi2k_ has joined IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@122.55.209.26) | |
| 09:36 | sacarde has joined IRC (sacarde!~sacarde@151.40.182.38) | |
| 09:36 | <sacarde> hi
| |
| 09:38 | how can I vie if ltsp is running?
| |
| 09:49 | <Hyperbyte> sacarde, please describe your problem.
| |
| 09:50 | <sacarde> I installed ltsp on ubuntu18.04
| |
| 09:51 | installation seems to be good
| |
| 09:51 | gdi2k_ has left IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@122.55.209.26, Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | |
| 09:51 | <sacarde> in netstat -anp I view:
| |
| 09:51 | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:10809 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 19662/nbd-server
| |
| 09:51 | this is ltsp ?
| |
| 09:58 | gdi2k_ has joined IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@122.55.209.26) | |
| 10:13 | pyasv has left IRC (pyasv!510913fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.9.19.254, Quit: Page closed) | |
| 10:27 | gdi2k_ has left IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@122.55.209.26, Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | |
| 10:48 | GodFather has left IRC (GodFather!~rcc@174-081-217-069.dhcp.chtrptr.net, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 10:50 | kjackal has left IRC (kjackal!~quassel@2a02:582:d0b:ed00:bd14:7e46:bdaf:d071, Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | |
| 11:19 | alkisg has joined IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) | |
| 11:23 | kjackal has joined IRC (kjackal!~quassel@2a02:582:cf1:7000:bd14:7e46:bdaf:d071) | |
| 11:29 | lucascastro has joined IRC (lucascastro!~lucas@177-185-139-236.isotelco.net.br) | |
| 11:43 | alkisg has left IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg, Quit: Leaving.) | |
| 11:45 | alkisg has joined IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) | |
| 12:08 | GodFather has joined IRC (GodFather!~rcc@2603:3015:3507:1600:28fb:fb1c:ecd6:4c89) | |
| 12:13 | <sacarde> how execute qemu to run as thinclient in a lan that have a ltsp server ?
| |
| 12:13 | gdi2k_ has joined IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@112.208.170.153) | |
| 12:14 | <alkisg> !kvm
| |
| 12:14 | <ltsp> kvm: Virtual thin client: kvm -m 256 -vga vmware -ctrl-grab -no-shutdown -net nic,model=virtio -net user,tftp=/var/lib/tftpboot,bootfile=/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
| |
| 12:14 | <alkisg> With virtualbox is also easy to set "bridged adapter" and just netboot it
| |
| 12:15 | sacarde: I'm sure it's possible to make a bridged adapter with kvm too, but I don't have a link handy
| |
| 12:21 | lucas__ has joined IRC (lucas__!~lucas@186.193.178.44.jupiter.com.br) | |
| 12:22 | lucascastro has left IRC (lucascastro!~lucas@177-185-139-236.isotelco.net.br, Read error: Connection reset by peer) | |
| 12:25 | lucascastro has joined IRC (lucascastro!~lucas@177-185-139-236.isotelco.net.br) | |
| 12:26 | lucas__ has left IRC (lucas__!~lucas@186.193.178.44.jupiter.com.br, Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | |
| 12:42 | GodFather has left IRC (GodFather!~rcc@2603:3015:3507:1600:28fb:fb1c:ecd6:4c89, Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | |
| 12:55 | GodFather has joined IRC (GodFather!~rcc@2603:3015:3507:1600:28fb:fb1c:ecd6:4c89) | |
| 13:44 | ben_roose has joined IRC (ben_roose!~roose@roose.cs.wichita.edu) | |
| 13:46 | lucascastro has left IRC (lucascastro!~lucas@177-185-139-236.isotelco.net.br, Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | |
| 13:58 | GodFather has left IRC (GodFather!~rcc@2603:3015:3507:1600:28fb:fb1c:ecd6:4c89, Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | |
| 14:10 | GodFather has joined IRC (GodFather!~rcc@2603:3015:3507:1600:28fb:fb1c:ecd6:4c89) | |
| 14:39 | sbalneav has joined IRC (sbalneav!~sbalneav@mail.beaconia.ca) | |
| 14:44 | talmid has joined IRC (talmid!~talmid@137.26.129.150) | |
| 14:48 | gdi2k_ has left IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@112.208.170.153, Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | |
| 15:06 | kjackal has left IRC (kjackal!~quassel@2a02:582:cf1:7000:bd14:7e46:bdaf:d071, Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | |
| 15:22 | alkisg has left IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg, Quit: Leaving.) | |
| 15:39 | GodFather has left IRC (GodFather!~rcc@2603:3015:3507:1600:28fb:fb1c:ecd6:4c89, Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | |
| 15:52 | GodFather has joined IRC (GodFather!~rcc@2603:3015:3507:1600:28fb:fb1c:ecd6:4c89) | |
| 16:02 | mgariepy has left IRC (mgariepy!~mgariepy@ubuntu/member/mgariepy, Quit: Leaving) | |
| 16:04 | GodFather has left IRC (GodFather!~rcc@2603:3015:3507:1600:28fb:fb1c:ecd6:4c89, Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | |
| 16:55 | vagrantc has joined IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@unaffiliated/vagrantc) | |
| 17:04 | lucascastro has joined IRC (lucascastro!~lucas@200.141.207.18) | |
| 17:21 | GodFather has joined IRC (GodFather!~rcc@174-081-217-069.dhcp.chtrptr.net) | |
| 17:27 | Leolo_2 has joined IRC (Leolo_2!~fil@24-54-27-253.mg.cgocable.ca) | |
| 17:27 | <Leolo_2> how does "guest" differ from "autologin" then?
| |
| 17:35 | <quinox> autologin -> you boot the client and it drops right into the desktop of the user you configured
| |
| 17:36 | guest -> there's a button on the login screen you can click to login with the user you configured
| |
| 17:36 | one is done on boot for you, the other is offered to the user at login as a choice
| |
| 17:37 | (if I understood alkisg correctly - I'm only familiar with the autologin which I use myself for 1 computer)
| |
| 17:40 | alkisg has joined IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) | |
| 17:51 | alkisg has left IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg, Quit: Leaving.) | |
| 17:54 | <vagrantc> quinox: you've got it correctly
| |
| 17:55 | notably LDM's guest login feature predates the one used in regular Ubuntu installations
| |
| 17:57 | alkisg has joined IRC (alkisg!c15ccb10@ubuntu/member/alkisg) | |
| 18:36 | <sacarde> alkisg, I try: qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 900 -vga vmware -ctrl-grab -net user,tftp=/var/lib/tftpboot,bootfile=/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.0 -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap1
| |
| 18:37 | my server ltsp is vm (ip 192.168.1.3)
| |
| 18:38 | but I have error: nothing to boot
| |
| 18:43 | <alkisg> sacarde: try also asking in #qemu or #kvm, what's their channel
| |
| 18:43 | I know this works, I haven't tested anything else
| |
| 18:43 | !kvm
| |
| 18:43 | <ltsp> kvm: Virtual thin client: kvm -m 256 -vga vmware -ctrl-grab -no-shutdown -net nic,model=virtio -net user,tftp=/var/lib/tftpboot,bootfile=/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
| |
| 18:44 | <alkisg> I also know it's extremely easy to do that with vbox
| |
| 18:46 | alkisg has left IRC (alkisg!c15ccb10@ubuntu/member/alkisg, Quit: Page closed) | |
| 19:05 | <talmid> I changed the IP of the server and now on the clients I cannot login, do I have to update something?
| |
| 19:05 | or just change it back?
| |
| 19:08 | kjackal has joined IRC (kjackal!~quassel@ppp-94-66-220-70.home.otenet.gr) | |
| 19:26 | alkisg has joined IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) | |
| 19:27 | <alkisg> talmid: if you're using an ancient ltsp, you might need ltsp-update-sshkeys. Which distro/version are you using?
| |
| 19:28 | <talmid> I use ltsp-manager, I moved the squash image to a different server
| |
| 19:28 | <alkisg> talmid: that's not "changing ip" :)
| |
| 19:28 | Now you have different ssh keys
| |
| 19:29 | What is the use case, are you going to be doing that frequently?
| |
| 19:29 | <talmid> no, just this time
| |
| 19:29 | <alkisg> How do you plan to update the image in the future?
| |
| 19:29 | <talmid> moved the ltsp from physical machine to vm
| |
| 19:29 | no, it's not going to change
| |
| 19:30 | <alkisg> So when there are security updates, you'll just ignore them?
| |
| 19:30 | If you moved all the disk, you also moved the ssh keys
| |
| 19:30 | Did you move all the installation, or just /opt/ltsp/images/amd64.img?
| |
| 19:30 | <talmid> just the amd64.img
| |
| 19:31 | <alkisg> Why don't you move the rest as well?
| |
| 19:31 | Or why don't you just run ltsp-update-image inside the vm?
| |
| 19:32 | Anyway, if you really want to do it the way you do it now, you could uncompress the image, put the correct keys, and recompress it,
| |
| 19:32 | or, you could use an lts.conf option to ignore the ssh keys,which is a security issue,
| |
| 19:32 | or, you could move the ssh keys from the physical server to the vm server
| |
| 19:33 | <talmid> thank you! I will try it now
| |
| 19:37 | mgariepy has joined IRC (mgariepy!~mgariepy@ubuntu/member/mgariepy) | |
| 19:44 | kjackal has left IRC (kjackal!~quassel@ppp-94-66-220-70.home.otenet.gr, Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | |
| 20:00 | talmid has left IRC (talmid!~talmid@137.26.129.150, Quit: Leaving) | |
| 20:02 | alkisg has left IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg, Quit: Leaving.) | |
| 20:12 | talmid has joined IRC (talmid!~talmid@137.26.129.150) | |
| 20:19 | kjackal has joined IRC (kjackal!~quassel@ppp-94-66-220-70.home.otenet.gr) | |
| 20:20 | gdi2k_ has joined IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@112.208.170.153) | |
| 20:26 | ricotz has left IRC (ricotz!~ricotz@ubuntu/member/ricotz, Quit: Leaving) | |
| 20:49 | lucascastro has left IRC (lucascastro!~lucas@200.141.207.18, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 21:07 | alkisg has joined IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) | |
| 21:08 | kjackal has left IRC (kjackal!~quassel@ppp-94-66-220-70.home.otenet.gr, Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | |
| 21:14 | lucascastro has joined IRC (lucascastro!~lucas@177-185-139-236.isotelco.net.br) | |
| 21:17 | lucas__ has joined IRC (lucas__!~lucas@177-185-139-236.isotelco.net.br) | |
| 21:17 | lucascastro has left IRC (lucascastro!~lucas@177-185-139-236.isotelco.net.br, Read error: Connection reset by peer) | |
| 21:32 | sacarde has left IRC (sacarde!~sacarde@151.40.182.38, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 21:36 | alkisg has left IRC (alkisg!~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg, Quit: Leaving.) | |
| 21:46 | <Leolo_2> so, CentOS 6 with kernel-ml (4.17.6), when I get to 04-server, the NFS root is not in /proc/mounts
| |
| 21:47 | so it can't find the server to get lts.conf from and defaults to 192.168.67.1
| |
| 21:50 | 03-kernel-cmdline looks for nfsroot, but I have root=nfs:
| |
| 21:51 | short solution : ltsp.server=10.30.0.3
| |
| 21:52 | one strange thing is that mount shows the values for the server, not the thin client
| |
| 21:53 | but that'ts because it uses /etc/mtab, not /proc/mount
| |
| 21:54 | mount -n is what I want
| |
| 21:57 | not that still reads mtab, it just prevents writing to it
| |
| 21:59 | <vagrantc> sounds like CentOS needs someone to fix a lot of things
| |
| 22:00 | lucas__ has left IRC (lucas__!~lucas@177-185-139-236.isotelco.net.br, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 22:04 | <Leolo_2> yep
| |
| 22:04 | that someone is me
| |
| 22:04 | gdi2k_ has left IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@112.208.170.153, Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | |
| 22:04 | <Leolo_2> I've submited patches
| |
| 22:05 | <vagrantc> that's far better than most!
| |
| 22:05 | <Leolo_2> my problem is that I used LTSP in a very different way then most
| |
| 22:05 | as in, I generate my own dhcp.conf and pxelinux.cfg etc
| |
| 22:06 | if I was setting up LTSP for many people, I'd be more proactive about getting my patches into the mainline
| |
| 22:06 | but I have it installed on 3 servers. those servers work. I only touch them when someone buys a new thin client and it doesn't work
| |
| 22:07 | gdi2k_ has joined IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@112.208.170.153) | |
| 22:07 | <Leolo_2> one question : when the tftp command to fetch lts.conf fails, why isn't a big huge message displayed somewhere?
| |
| 22:08 | as it is, it just silently fails and limps on without it
| |
| 22:13 | <quinox> because LTSP has sensible defaults so it can live without lts.cof?
| |
| 22:17 | <Leolo_2> "won't work unless your server is at 192.168.67.1" is a strange value of "sensible"
| |
| 22:17 | <quinox> my server lives at 10.50.0.8 and my lts.conf only contains cosmetical settings
| |
| 22:18 | I manually set up my DHCP lines, I think I recall I mention the server IP in that file
| |
| 22:18 | <Leolo_2> option next-server. that works for the tftp but it's not getting to init-ltsp for some reason
| |
| 22:19 | <quinox> dhcp-boot=/ltsp/amd64/pxelinux.0,duivenkracht,10.50.0.8
| |
| 22:19 | I suppose that one tells my clients where to find the server
| |
| 22:20 | <Leolo_2> are you using ISC dhcpd?
| |
| 22:20 | <quinox> (it's dnsmasq btw)
| |
| 22:20 | <Leolo_2> aha
| |
| 22:20 | maybe what I want is a "fatal" mode where if anything goes wrong, LTSP fails with verbose debug messages
| |
| 22:21 | and that would be off by default
| |
| 22:21 | <quinox> I don't know how many errors it currently ignores, but that might indeed be nice for debugging
| |
| 22:22 | <Leolo_2> I'm also wonder how one could have a nice remote logging facility
| |
| 22:22 | <quinox> like rsyslog?
| |
| 22:23 | <Leolo_2> yeah, only it would work even if we don't have the IP of the syslog server
| |
| 22:23 | some kind of broadcast logging
| |
| 22:23 | <quinox> ah
| |
| 22:24 | <Leolo_2> I wonder if nc can do UDP broadcast
| |
| 22:24 | and yes, I realise this is border line crazy
| |
| 22:25 | <quinox> that's why we run Linux right :-)
| |
| 22:25 | <Leolo_2> mind you, if I'm adding ltsp-logging to the command line, I could just as easily add ltsp-logging=123.123.123.123
| |
| 22:25 | quinox : heh
| |
| 22:29 | gdi2k_ has left IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@112.208.170.153, Read error: Connection reset by peer) | |
| 22:32 | <quinox> I suppose the simplest way would be to log to 'server'
| |
| 22:32 | <Leolo_2> that assumes a valid /etc/hosts
| |
| 22:32 | <quinox> have you had bad /etc/hosts files?
| |
| 22:32 | <Leolo_2> all the time?
| |
| 22:33 | <quinox> ok
| |
| 22:33 | <Leolo_2> I mean server is never in /etc/hosts
| |
| 22:33 | which I guess could be a problem
| |
| 22:41 | [ 66.868] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
| |
| 22:41 | grrrrrrr !
| |
| 22:41 | [ 66.868] (WW) intel(0): Unknown chipset
| |
| 22:42 | lucascastro has joined IRC (lucascastro!~lucas@177-185-139-236.isotelco.net.br) | |
| 22:43 | <Leolo_2> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 5a85 (rev 0b) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
| |
| 22:59 | derick_ has joined IRC (derick_!b646a415@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.70.164.21) | |
| 22:59 | <derick_> alkisg : Okay. Thanks alkisg
| |
| 23:00 | Also are there any ltsp updates for debian buster. When I am trying to install ltsp in buster. I am able to boot from client but I get this `kernel panic not syncing `
| |
| 23:01 | maybe it is an issue with vagrantbox. I will create my own and let you know if I face any problem.
| |
| 23:12 | gdi2k_ has joined IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@112.208.170.153) | |
| 23:25 | gdi2k_ has left IRC (gdi2k_!~gdi2k@112.208.170.153, Read error: Connection reset by peer) | |